History YMMV / TheUltimates

7th Nov '15 10:16:32 PM nombretomado
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* CompleteMonster: Ultimate Comicbook/RedSkull is [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] than the regular RedSkull. Ultimate Skull is [[spoiler:the son of Captain America]], and therefore has a version of his powers. He's a killing machine, although that doesn't sum up the [[ForTheEvulz sick delight]] he takes in what he does. His list of atrocities includes: killing two hundred people, followed by skinning his own face at the age of seventeen, training terrorists and working with numerous historical monsters, including infamous mass-murderer and cannibal Idi Amin, [[WhoShotJFK shooting Kennedy]], just to send a message, and using the Cosmic Cube to force the members of A.I.M. to eat each other. And then there's his most infamous moment: he gives a woman (later [[TheWasp the Red Wasp]]) a SadisticChoice: kill her husband with a pair of scissors or he'd kill her baby. She did it. The Red Skull then [[WouldHurtAChild chucked the baby]] [[DestinationDefenestration out a window]] and let his three thugs gang-rape her.
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* CompleteMonster: Ultimate Comicbook/RedSkull is [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] than the regular RedSkull.ComicBook/RedSkull. Ultimate Skull is [[spoiler:the son of Captain America]], and therefore has a version of his powers. He's a killing machine, although that doesn't sum up the [[ForTheEvulz sick delight]] he takes in what he does. His list of atrocities includes: killing two hundred people, followed by skinning his own face at the age of seventeen, training terrorists and working with numerous historical monsters, including infamous mass-murderer and cannibal Idi Amin, [[WhoShotJFK shooting Kennedy]], just to send a message, and using the Cosmic Cube to force the members of A.I.M. to eat each other. And then there's his most infamous moment: he gives a woman (later [[TheWasp the Red Wasp]]) a SadisticChoice: kill her husband with a pair of scissors or he'd kill her baby. She did it. The Red Skull then [[WouldHurtAChild chucked the baby]] [[DestinationDefenestration out a window]] and let his three thugs gang-rape her.
6th Sep '15 4:29:27 PM agentjohnbishop
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*** This was played straight when Brian Michael Bendis and Josh Fialkov tried to redeem him. Once Reed was back in the hands of Jonathan Hickman, he returned to his evil glory, to the rejoicing of the fans.
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*** This was played straight when Brian Michael Bendis and Josh Fialkov tried to redeem him. Once Reed was back in the hands of [[Creator/JonathanHickman Jonathan Hickman, Hickman]], he returned to his evil glory, to the rejoicing of the fans.
30th Jul '15 5:14:13 PM Oberyn
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*** This was played straight when Brian Michael Bendis and Josh Fialkov tried to redeem him. Once Reed was back in the hands of Jonathan Hickman, he returned to his evil glory, to the rejoicing of the fans.
15th Jun '15 9:43:09 AM nombretomado
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** A minor example, but the introduction for the hardcover collection of the first series happens to be written by JossWhedon.
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** A minor example, but the introduction for the hardcover collection of the first series happens to be written by JossWhedon.Creator/JossWhedon.
31st May '15 5:17:01 PM alphamale2k14
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* AwesomeArt: Bryan Hitch's knack for realism and talent for "widescreen" panels make the reader feel like he/she is watching a big budget action movie on the big screen. Coupled with Mark Millar's gritty and cynical deconstruction style of writing, is it any wonder the first two volumes are so fondly remembered? * BrokenBase: This being a reimagining of Earth's mightiest heroes, you can't win them all. ** Hank Pym fans take issue with the fact Millar wrote his Ultimate version as an abusive asshole towards Janet Pym whereas his 616 version only struck Janet ''once'' and by ''complete accident'' too! *** Ultimate Captain America. A more realistic portrayal of what would happen if someone like him woke up several decades into the future to a technologically advanced but far more crass and vulgar society or an overly jingoistic joke of a beloved character? His infamous "You think this A on my head stands for France!?" line he gives to Herr Kleiser not helping matters much

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*** Ultimate Cap later has his 'Merica F Yeah tendencies toned down as the series progresses becoming a sometimes politically incorrect, but still noble when he needs to be version of his 616 counterpart
24th Feb '15 12:27:36 PM Scorntex
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* {{Narm}}: "I voted for the hot Alaskan chick." As a BondOneLiner.
30th Jan '15 11:15:10 AM Oberyn
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** Utterly Averted with Ultimate Reed Richards. Fans and Critics alike praised his descent into villainy.
3rd Jan '15 6:13:49 PM WanderingBrowser
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The ''All-New Ultimates'' take on Jessica Drew, from the costume to the new alias. A lot of people aren't happy with the changes, which is even easier to notice since she was a big EnsembleDarkHorse before the series started.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ** The idea to make Ultimate Captain America display DeliberateValuesDissonance attracted a lot of controversy even ''before'' they famously took it into hamhanded directions, since his mainstream counterpart is famously portrayed as being forward-thinking, idealistic and enlightened for whatever era he's in. ** The ''All-New Ultimates'' take on Jessica Drew, from the costume to the new alias. A lot of people aren't happy with the changes, which is even easier to notice since she was a big EnsembleDarkHorse before the series started.
10th Nov '14 4:34:14 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations.
* UnfortunateImplications: Red Wasp's highly sexualised outfit, given that she's a victim of gang rape.
20th Aug '14 3:06:21 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Ultimate Comicbook/RedSkull is [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] than the regular RedSkull. Ultimate Skull is [[spoiler:the son of Captain America]], and therefore has a version of his powers. He's a killing machine, although that doesn't sum up the [[ForTheEvulz sick delight]] he takes in what he does. His list of atrocities includes: killing two hundred people, followed by skinning his own face at the age of seventeen, training terrorists and working with numerous historical monsters, including infamous mass-murderer and cannibal Idi Amin, [[WhoShotJFK shooting Kennedy]], just to send a message, and using the Cosmic Cube to force the members of A.I.M. to eat each other. And then there's the incident where he gives a woman (later [[TheWasp the Red Wasp]]) a SadisticChoice: kill her husband with a pair of scissors or he'd kill her baby. She did it. The Red Skull then [[WouldHurtAChild chucked the baby]] [[DestinationDefenestration out a window]] and let his three thugs gang-rape her.
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* CompleteMonster: Ultimate Comicbook/RedSkull is [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] than the regular RedSkull. Ultimate Skull is [[spoiler:the son of Captain America]], and therefore has a version of his powers. He's a killing machine, although that doesn't sum up the [[ForTheEvulz sick delight]] he takes in what he does. His list of atrocities includes: killing two hundred people, followed by skinning his own face at the age of seventeen, training terrorists and working with numerous historical monsters, including infamous mass-murderer and cannibal Idi Amin, [[WhoShotJFK shooting Kennedy]], just to send a message, and using the Cosmic Cube to force the members of A.I.M. to eat each other. And then there's the incident where his most infamous moment: he gives a woman (later [[TheWasp the Red Wasp]]) a SadisticChoice: kill her husband with a pair of scissors or he'd kill her baby. She did it. The Red Skull then [[WouldHurtAChild chucked the baby]] [[DestinationDefenestration out a window]] and let his three thugs gang-rape her.
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