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* EvilIsSexy: Let's just say lot of readers became big fans of Kavinsky after ''The Dream Thieves.''
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* FoeYay: In spades with Ronan and Kavinsky. Not even spades, really. More like shovels.

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* FoeYay: In spades with Ronan and Kavinsky. Not even spades, really. More like shovels.FanNickname:
** The main characters are the Gangsey, the Raven Gang, or the Dick Clique.
** Kavinsky's group of friends are the Dream Pack.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kavinsky's treatment of Ronan was explicitly written (and confirmed by WordOfGod) as an abusive relationship, including stalking, harassment, homophobic insults, manipulation, drugging him, violating his personal space, touching him without his consent, and [[spoiler:kidnapping and trying to kill Matthew to punish Ronan for rejecting him]]. He also drugs his own mother without her knowledge, believes that "consent is overrated", and [[spoiler:is the main villain of the second book]]. Nonetheless, he has a vocal fanbase who ignore, excuse, or outright romanticize his behavior. [[BrokenBase This is a controversial topic in the fandom]], so [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kavinsky's treatment of Ronan was explicitly written (and confirmed by WordOfGod) as an abusive relationship, including stalking, harassment, homophobic insults, manipulation, drugging him, violating his personal space, touching him without his consent, and [[spoiler:kidnapping and trying to kill Matthew to punish Ronan for rejecting him]]. He also drugs his own mother without her knowledge, believes that "consent is overrated", and [[spoiler:is the main villain of the second book]]. Nonetheless, he has a vocal fanbase who ignore, excuse, or outright romanticize his behavior. [[BrokenBase This is a controversial topic in the fandom]], so [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]fandom]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: ''Call Down the Hawk'' reveals more about the scene in which [[spoiler: Ronan dreamed a copy of himself as a decoy so he could get away from the crow monsters.]] Namely, it wasn't some mindless doll, [[spoiler: ''he'' was a fully sentient perfect copy, meaning Ronan accidentally created a whole person as a meat shield.]]
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* JerkassWoobie: Declan Lynch. [[MuggleBornOfMages The only 'normal' Lynch]], he was TheUnfavorite, and grew up in a household that he didn't fit in, and that never tried to acclimate him. He learned to be ProperlyParanoid and a SecretKeeper as a child, and as a teen got PromotedToParent when his father was murdered and his mother fell into a coma immediately afterward. And despite being an AloofBigBrother who seems to enjoy antagonizing Ronan, he still loves his brothers and [[BigBrotherInstinct tries to protect them]] from the dangerous people Niall Lynch dealt with.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kavinsky's treatment of Ronan was explicitly written (and confirmed by WordOfGod) as an abusive relationship, including stalking, harassment, homophobic insults, manipulation, drugging him, violating his personal space, touching him without his consent, and [[spoiler:kidnapping and trying to kill Matthew to punish Ronan for rejecting him]]. He also drugs his own mother without her knowledge, believes that "consent is overrated", and [[spoiler:is the main villain of the second book]]. Nonetheless, he has a vocal fanbase who ignore, excuse, or outright romanticize his behavior. [[BrokenBase This is a controversial topic in the fandom]], so [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kavinsky's treatment of Ronan was explicitly written (and confirmed by WordOfGod) as an abusive relationship, including stalking, harassment, homophobic insults, manipulation, drugging him, violating his personal space, touching him without his consent, and [[spoiler:kidnapping and trying to kill Matthew to punish Ronan for rejecting him]]. He also drugs his own mother without her knowledge, believes that "consent is overrated", and [[spoiler:is the main villain of the second book]]. Nonetheless, he has a vocal fanbase who ignore, excuse, or outright romanticize his behavior. [[BrokenBase This is a controversial topic in the fandom]], so [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]

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* AwesomeMoments: Ronan [[spoiler: punching Adam's dad]] at the end of ''The Raven Boys''.



* FunnyMoments: "Gansey! This is the countryside. Where bees live!"
** A lot of Gansey and Blue's early interactions fall under this category:
--> '''Gansey:''' How much do you make in an hour? I'll take care of it. And I'll talk to your manager.
--> '''Blue:''' ...I am not a ''prostitute.''

--> All this time she'd been wondering how Gansey might die and it turned out she was going to strangle him.
** The Greenmantles may be nightmarishly awful human beings, but it's absolutely hilarious seeing them bicker, passive-aggressively snipe at each other, and eat cheese like any other married yuppies while facing down hitmen, committing murder, and searching for supernatural forces of evil.
** Ronan throwing Noah out of a window for fun in ''The Dream Thieves.''
** In ''The Raven King'', Helen finds out that Gansey [[spoiler: bribed the Aglionby headmaster by promising to give him Monmouth Manufacturing in exchange for Ronan's ensured graduation]]. Her immediate reaction is [[spoiler: to ask if Gansey and Ronan are sleeping together]]. It's such an out of left field assumption in what's otherwise a fairly grim conversation that {{Bathos}} is fully in effect.


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%%* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Ronan [[spoiler: punching Adam's dad]] at the end of ''The Raven Boys''.
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* LoveMakesYouCrazy: Kavinsky's... ''complicated'' feelings for Ronan seem to have a lot to do with his breakdown at the end of ''The Dream Thieves''.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Adam as of ''The Dream Thieves'' has been getting this. Is he struggling with the anger and emotional backlash from an abusive father and taking on Cabeswater, or is he a selfish, misogynistic tool with anger issues that are never dealt with? Also Blue: strong independent woman with a judgmental streak, or cliche, hypocritical author avatar for psuedo-feminist speech?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Adam as of ''The Dream Thieves'' has been getting this. Is he struggling with the anger and emotional backlash from an abusive father and taking on Cabeswater, or is he a selfish, misogynistic tool with anger issues that are never dealt with? Also A ton, but particularly regarding Blue: strong independent woman with a judgmental streak, or cliche, hypocritical author avatar for psuedo-feminist speech?



** Adam in ''The Dream Thieves''. Is he struggling with the anger and emotional backlash from an abusive father and taking on Cabeswater, or is he a selfish, misogynistic tool with anger issues that are never dealt with?
*** Significantly mitigated by ''Blue Lily, Lily Blue'' and ''The Raven King'', where Adam gains control of his temper and shows much more respect for Blue. While he still has his detractors, his growth in those books has generally made fans more sympathetic towards his behavior in ''The Dream Thieves'' than they were when it was newly released.



** Because of various hints, snippets, and some fanart shared by Stiefvater, the fanbase thought that at some point, Adam would turn into a tree. Cometh ''The Raven King'' and [[spoiler: ''Blue'' is revealed to be half tir e' elintes, magic folk who can - turn into trees.]]

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** Because of various hints, snippets, and some fanart shared by Stiefvater, the fanbase thought that at some point, Adam would turn into a tree. Cometh Come ''The Raven King'' and [[spoiler: ''Blue'' is revealed to be half tir e' elintes, magic folk who can - turn into trees.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: While it was a funny exchange in the first place, fans love to point out how much better this exchange becomes after reading ''The Dream Thieves.''

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While it was a funny exchange in the first place, fans love to point out how much better this exchange becomes after reading ''The Dream Thieves.''


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** Because of various hints, snippets, and some fanart shared by Stiefvater, the fanbase thought that at some point, Adam would turn into a tree. Cometh ''The Raven King'' and [[spoiler: ''Blue'' is revealed to be half tir e' elintes, magic folk who can - turn into trees.]]

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