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** The gag panels with Hel arguing with Thor aren't quite so harmless once it is revealed she plans to wage war on the dwarvern homelands.

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** The gag panels with Hel arguing with Thor aren't quite so harmless once it is revealed she plans to wage war on the dwarvern dwarven homelands.



* HeartwarmingInHindsight: As it turns out, [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1136.html Thor thinks the dwarves' dislike of trees is ridiculous]], but as we saw earlier, [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html he's still willing to use it as an argument to keep his followers' souls from Hel.]]

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: HeartwarmingInHindsight:
** In the midst of his DespairEventHorizon in [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html #881]], Roy sarcastically asks if [[spoiler:vampire-Durkon would be kind enough to drive a stake through his own heart. [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1131.html Turns out]] that's not far from what actually happens]].
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As it turns out, [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1136.html Thor thinks the dwarves' dislike of trees is ridiculous]], but as we saw earlier, [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html he's still willing to use it as an argument to keep his followers' souls from Hel.]]
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*AngstWhatAngst: [[ParodiedTrope Parodied]] on the page image, but a straighter example comes after [[spoiler: the mirage in Girard's gate vanishes. Having what must have been ''months'' of mostly realistic justice and happiness ripped away from the party hardly even affects them, and they sorta just stand around and discuss what happened as soon as it dissolves, not even mentioning it ever again after the arc ends.]]
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** after charming the worm in the desert, Haley says they “can hightail it out of here while it just looks on lovingly!” To which Belkar replies, “just like leaving Grandma Bitterleaf at the nursing home!”

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** after After charming the worm in the desert, Haley says they “can "can hightail it out of here while it just looks on lovingly!” lovingly!" To which Belkar replies, “just "Just like leaving Grandma Bitterleaf at the nursing home!”home!"



** The first thing to happen after Durkon's resurrection is Hilgya killing him again with a Flame Strike because he proposed to her. Then she shuts down the outraged Order by pointing out that she's rich and can just resurrect him again.

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** The first thing to happen after Durkon's resurrection is Hilgya killing him again with a Flame Strike ''flame strike'' because he proposed to her. Then she shuts down the outraged Order by pointing out that she's rich and can just resurrect him again.
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** after charming the worm in the desert, Haley says they “can hightail it out of here while it just looks on lovingly!” To which Belkar replies, “just like leaving Grandma Bitterleaf at the nursing home!”
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** UpToEleven at the Godsmoot. Even some good gods (through their emissaries) like Heimdall voting for the destruction of the world and all the people in it? That's already pretty harsh. [[spoiler:But made considerably harsher when it is revealed later that they have gone through the motions literally millions of times. The (good) gods aren't callous or apathetic, they just learned the hard way that destroying everything and starting over from scratch is their only available option.]]

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** UpToEleven Up to eleven at the Godsmoot. Even some good gods (through their emissaries) like Heimdall voting for the destruction of the world and all the people in it? That's already pretty harsh. [[spoiler:But made considerably harsher when it is revealed later that they have gone through the motions literally millions of times. The (good) gods aren't callous or apathetic, they just learned the hard way that destroying everything and starting over from scratch is their only available option.]]
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** ''Start of Darkness'', as a gag, portrays Sorcerers as being like the ''ComicBook/XMen'''s Mutants. Then ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' comes along and does just that, using the Sorcerers' bloodlines to give them actual powers outside their spellcasting and even some mutations.

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** ''Start of Darkness'', as a gag, portrays Sorcerers as being like the ''ComicBook/XMen'''s Mutants. Then ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' comes along and does just that, using the Sorcerers' bloodlines to give them actual powers outside their spellcasting and even some physical mutations.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: The Monster in the Darkness has the mentality of a child, forgets crucial information that has just been told to him (what gate?) and is generally oblivious to the things around him. When O-Chul asks him why he lets Xykon and Redcloak boss him around, he says he doesn't like thinking for himself because it's too hard. However, he is shown to be smart when he finally puts his thoughts together. Given that Oona describes him as small but will grow in time, he might actually ''be'' a child.
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** [[spoiler:Sunny, a beholder who should normally be a LawfulEvil AbsoluteXenophobe, but calls Serini "Mom" and cheerfully chats with Elan -- and apparently plays with crayons.]]

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** [[spoiler:Sunny, a beholder who should normally be a LawfulEvil Lawful Evil AbsoluteXenophobe, but calls Serini "Mom" and cheerfully chats with Elan -- and apparently plays with crayons.]]



** Belkar has always been one of the more divisive main characters but has become even more so in later strips with his 'fake' CharacterDevelopment. Some fans welcome the possibility that he will be redeemed and possibly die a hero. Others are less thrilled, either because they prefer him as an amusing, completely amoral ChaoticEvil HeroicComedicSociopath or because they don't believe that any amount of good deeds can make up for the actions he's performed and therefore any redemption would be unearned.

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** Belkar has always been one of the more divisive main characters but has become even more so in later strips with his 'fake' CharacterDevelopment. Some fans welcome the possibility that he will be redeemed and possibly die a hero. Others are less thrilled, either because they prefer him as an amusing, completely amoral ChaoticEvil Chaotic Evil HeroicComedicSociopath or because they don't believe that any amount of good deeds can make up for the actions he's performed and therefore any redemption would be unearned.



** There's another controversy about which fans ''aren't'' civil. Miko Miyazaki: TheFettered LawfulGood KnightInShiningArmor, or LawfulEvil KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}? Pick one or the other; as Miko herself would be the first to insist in either interpretation, you are not allowed to compromise.

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** There's another controversy about which fans ''aren't'' civil. Miko Miyazaki: TheFettered LawfulGood Lawful Good KnightInShiningArmor, or LawfulEvil Lawful Evil KnightTemplar {{Jerkass}}? Pick one or the other; as Miko herself would be the first to insist in either interpretation, you are not allowed to compromise.



** Belkar. Thanks to his "fake character development", some insist he's ChaoticNeutral, despite [[WordOfGod Word of the Giant]]. Note that [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0058.html an early strip]] strongly implies that his constant anger and aggressivness is a consequence of his low Wisdom, being temporarily wiser turns him into a non-violent nice guy.

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** Belkar. Thanks to his "fake character development", some insist he's ChaoticNeutral, Chaotic Neutral, despite [[WordOfGod Word of the Giant]]. Note that [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0058.html an early strip]] strongly implies that his constant anger and aggressivness is a consequence of his low Wisdom, being temporarily wiser turns him into a non-violent nice guy.



** In the Empire of Blood arc, Roy and Belkar got imprisoned for life for not having entrance papers. Apparently illegal immigration is SeriousBusiness in a LawfulEvil nation...

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** In the Empire of Blood arc, Roy and Belkar got imprisoned for life for not having entrance papers. Apparently illegal immigration is SeriousBusiness in a LawfulEvil Lawful Evil nation...
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** Belkar -- ChaoticEvil or ChaoticNeutral ([[WordOfGod Word of the Giant]] be damned)? Other fans debate how much of his CharacterDevelopment is fake, and whether the amount changed. Note that [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0058.html an early strip]] strongly implies that his constant anger and aggressiveness is a consequence of his low Wisdom; being temporarily wiser turns him into a non-violent nice guy.

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** Belkar -- ChaoticEvil Chaotic Evil or ChaoticNeutral Chaotic Neutral ([[WordOfGod Word of the Giant]] be damned)? Other fans debate how much of his CharacterDevelopment is fake, and whether the amount changed. Note that [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0058.html an early strip]] strongly implies that his constant anger and aggressiveness is a consequence of his low Wisdom; being temporarily wiser turns him into a non-violent nice guy.
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* UglyCute: [[spoiler:Sunny is absolutely adorable for a beholder.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: [[ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster Lord Shojo]] is the seemingly senile but secretly canny ruler of Azure City. He [[ObfuscatingInsanity poses as a senile old man]] to manipulate the nobles and prevent unrest by making them believe they are manipulating him into siding with their own choices. He introduces himself to the story by having the Order arrested under false pretenses and faking their trial so they can be found innocent. Having them released, he cooperates with Roy behind the Sapphire Guard’s backs to take down Xykon, taking measures including releasing [[TokenEvilTeammate Belkar]] and lying to the authorities about it, intentionally breaking Soon Kim’s oath because he knows adhering to it would be much worse in the long run. Even in his final moments at the hands of Miko, he calmly accepts his arrest, and when she kills him, he manages to survive long enough to see her lose her Paladin abilities, [[DefiantToTheEnd getting in a snide remark at her expense before moving on]]. Calm, collected, affable and humorous to the end, he aids the heroes throughout his appearances, and manages to [[AmbiguousSituation potentially]] do so even posthumously for Belkar.

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** Crystal. [[spoiler:Since coming {{back from the dead}} as a self-aware flesh golem, she claims to be [[AndIMustScream in a state of constant agony]]. The forum-goers' hearts went out to her almost immediately; no-one, they felt, deserves that -- not even Crystal.]]

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** Crystal. [[spoiler:Since coming {{back from the dead}} as a self-aware flesh golem, she claims to be [[AndIMustScream in a state of constant agony]]. The forum-goers' hearts went out to her almost immediately; no-one, they felt, deserves that -- not even Crystal.]]]] While Haley [[spoiler:drops Crystal into lava to prevent her from killing anyone else]], she takes no pleasure in the act.


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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: [[KnightTemplar Miko Miyazaki]] manages to be more divisive than most of the villains despite the fact that, even after everything she does, she's still ostensibly on the heroes' side. This is because she's incredibly abrasive and judgmental even in the best of times, while the villains are more entertaining to watch.
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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: It's noticeable that The Giant (Rich Burlew) doesn't respond as much in the forums lately. This is undoubtedly due to unspecified health issues, which already make it harder to devote time to the comic; but one can't help feeling there's an element of AuthorDisillusionment as well, given the tone of some of the posts and the frequent questioning about the schedule.

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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: It's noticeable that The Giant (Rich Burlew) doesn't respond as much in the forums lately. This is undoubtedly due to unspecified health issues, which already make it harder to devote time to the comic; but one can't help feeling there's an element of AuthorDisillusionment ArtistDisillusionment as well, given the tone of some of the posts and the frequent questioning about the schedule.
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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: It's noticeable that The Giant (Rich Burlew) doesn't respond as much in the forums lately. This is undoubtedly due to unspecified health issues, which already make it harder to devote time to the comic; but one can't help feeling there's an element of AuthorDisillusionment as well, given the tone of some of the posts and the frequent questioning about the schedule.
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** Hel's petty, vindictive, ungrateful to the few friends and has, and is unspeakably cruel. However, from her VillainousBreakdown scene, it's clear that the way she gathers worship is taxing on her psyche. Was she different before the bet on worshippers? Or has she always been the way she is? Is the stress changing her personality, or just bringing it to the surface?

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** Hel's petty, vindictive, ungrateful to the few friends and she has, and is unspeakably cruel. However, from her VillainousBreakdown scene, it's clear that the way she gathers worship is taxing on her psyche. Was she different before the bet on worshippers? Or has she always been the way she is? Is the stress changing her personality, or just bringing it to the surface?

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** Hel's petty, vindictive, ungrateful to the few friends and has, and is unspeakably cruel. However, from her VillainousBreakdown scene, it's clear that the way she gathers worship is taxing on her psyche. Was she different before the bet on worshippers? Or has she always been the way she is? Is the stress changing her personality, or just bringing it to the surface?



* TrappedByMountainLions: The frost giants arc, going on for close to a year, turned into this for many fans. It amounts to a glorified random encounter and focuses heavily on two [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisive characters]] with very little character to them, despite the main characters supposedly being on a time-crunch to reach dwarf territory before the apocalyptic deadline. Numerous threads complaining about this have appeared on the forum only to be put down by locking. And unlike other side arcs or lulls in the storyline, it's not all that humorous and has virtually no CharacterDevelopment to go around.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Celia and Haley have an argument over Belkar's murderous tendencies when he kills a nameless hobgoblin soldier and Solt Lorkyurg, an innocent gnome merchant. Celia feels that both murders were wrong and accuses Haley of falling under WhatMeasureIsANonHuman by justifying the hobgoblin's death over Solt's, whilst Haley argues that the hobgoblin was an enemy soldier and not comparable. It's supposed to be one of the times the comic deconstructs common fantasy tropes and gives a balanced argument, but most fans sided with Haley's pragmatism and thought Celia was just being naive. Unlike other examples of WhatMeasureIsAMook or Non-Human, this hobgoblin was an armed enemy soldier and part of the occupation of a conquered city instead of some random monster Belkar decided to pick on.

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* TrappedByMountainLions: The frost giants arc, going on for close which took about a year of time to a year, turned into this for many fans. complete. It amounts amounted to a glorified random encounter of some frost giants in a mountain pass. Not only was this a distraction from the significantly more important end of the world plot, the characterization focused solely on the personalities and focuses heavily on two [[BaseBreakingCharacter incredibly divisive characters]] with very little character to them, despite the main struggles of bit characters supposedly being on a time-crunch to reach dwarf territory before the apocalyptic deadline. Numerous threads complaining about this have appeared on the forum only to be put down by locking. And unlike other side arcs or lulls introduced in the storyline, it's not all same chapter, including Thrym's crush on Hel and the petty power struggles between Andi and Bandana. In addition, it had an {{Anvilicious}} diatribe about women in the workplace that humorous was ham-fistedly thrown in, and has virtually absolutely no CharacterDevelopment to go around.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Celia and Haley have an argument over Belkar's murderous tendencies when he kills a nameless hobgoblin soldier and Solt Lorkyurg, an innocent gnome merchant. Celia feels that both murders were wrong and accuses Haley of falling under WhatMeasureIsANonHuman by justifying the hobgoblin's death over Solt's, whilst Haley argues that the hobgoblin was an enemy soldier and not comparable. It's supposed to be one of the times the comic deconstructs common fantasy tropes and gives a balanced argument, but most fans sided with Haley's pragmatism and thought Celia was just being naive.naïve. Unlike other examples of WhatMeasureIsAMook or Non-Human, this hobgoblin was an armed enemy soldier and part of the occupation of a conquered city instead of some random monster Belkar decided to pick on.
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** Xykon's name is sometimes mistaken for "Zykon", both [[PsmithPsyndrome in-universe]] and out. This is a [[BerserkButton point of contention]] for him.

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** Xykon's name is sometimes mistaken for "Zykon", both [[PsmithPsyndrome in-universe]] and out. This is a [[BerserkButton point of contention]] for him. Has also been confused with "Xyklon", including on this very wiki.
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* ViewerNameConfusion:
** People often spell Hilgya's name as Helga or Hilga.
** Similarly, people confuse Durkon and Dorukan's names.
** Xykon's name is sometimes mistaken for "Zykon", both [[PsmithPsyndrome in-universe]] and out. This is a [[BerserkButton point of contention]] for him.
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** In Book 6, the Order of the Stick first gets redirected [[spoiler:by the High Priest of Hel]] to the Godsmoot in hopes of finding someone to resurrect [[spoiler:Durkon]]. Then it turns out there's a vote there by the gods on whether to [[spoiler:end the world]]. Then the vote goes to a tiebreaker, and Roy tries to fight [[spoiler:the High Priest of Hel]] to stop a vote, then the tiebreaker requires a tiebreaker when the final tiebreaker voter needs to convene a council far away, which results in ''another'' detour by the Order to prevent the final tiebreaker vote from being manipulated. Fans got so vocal that WordOfGod eventually addressed it [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?472566-The-pace-the-pace-The-pace-is-too-slow/page2&p=20211651#post20211651 here]].

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** In Book 6, the Order of the Stick first gets redirected [[spoiler:by the High Priest of Hel]] to the Godsmoot in hopes of finding someone to resurrect [[spoiler:Durkon]]. Then it turns out there's a vote there by the gods on whether to [[spoiler:end the world]]. Then the vote goes to a tiebreaker, and Roy tries to fight [[spoiler:the High Priest of Hel]] to stop a vote, then the tiebreaker requires a tiebreaker when the final tiebreaker voter needs to convene a council far away, which results in ''another'' detour by the Order to prevent the final tiebreaker vote from being manipulated. Fans got so vocal that WordOfGod eventually addressed it [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?472566-The-pace-the-pace-The-pace-is-too-slow/page2&p=20211651#post20211651 here]].on the forum (in a now-deleted thread).
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--->'''Durkon:''' Can a dwarf get a minute ta solve worldwide gen'rational inequality??
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** The situation of goblinoids vis-a-vis the other humanoids bears a distinct resemblance to the situation of Blacks in America. Redcloak's telling how he can't walk into a human town and not be considered a monster is similar to Blacks describing how they feel in white neighborhoods; the fact that humanoid races are profiting from a situation they did not set up, and whether they have a duty to change it, mirrors the debate about systemic racism.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment:

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment:GeniusBonus: When Haley is rendered unintelligible from seeing a large amount of treasure destroyed, she only speaks in cryptograms until cured. Not only can all the cryptograms be translated, but ''the translation keys themselves'' occasionally have hidden messages.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Everything about Malack before TheReveal. Including what some readers probably felt was a typo in the name of a tea...
** [[http://www.cafepress.com/orderofthestick/8305389 The T-shirt]] of Durkon turning [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a vampire]] has become this now that [[spoiler:Durkon has become a vampire]].
** And, while not very funny to start with, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0333.html Durkon's joy upon being told he'd return to his homeland after dying]] becomes far worse when [[spoiler: he does so as a Vampire in order to destroy the world]].
** UpToEleven at the Godsmoot. Even some good gods (through their emissaries) like Heimdall voting for the destruction of the world and all the people in it? That's already pretty harsh. [[spoiler:But made considerably harsher when it is revealed later that they have gone through the motions literally millions of times. The (good) gods aren't callous or apathetic, they just learned the hard way that destroying everything and starting over from scratch is their only available option.]]



* GeniusBonus: When Haley is rendered unintelligible from seeing a large amount of treasure destroyed, she only speaks in cryptograms until cured. Not only can all the cryptograms be translated, but ''the translation keys themselves'' occasionally have hidden messages.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Everything about Malack before TheReveal. Including what some readers probably felt was a typo in the name of a tea...
** [[http://www.cafepress.com/orderofthestick/8305389 The T-shirt]] of Durkon turning [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a vampire]] has become this now that [[spoiler:Durkon has become a vampire]].
** And, while not very funny to start with, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0333.html Durkon's joy upon being told he'd return to his homeland after dying]] becomes far worse when [[spoiler: he does so as a Vampire in order to destroy the world]].
** UpToEleven at the Godsmoot. Even some good gods (through their emissaries) like Heimdall voting for the destruction of the world and all the people in it? That's already pretty harsh. [[spoiler:But made considerably harsher when it is revealed later that they have gone through the motions literally millions of times. The (good) gods aren't callous or apathetic, they just learned the hard way that destroying everything and starting over from scratch is their only available option.]]

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* BetterOnDVD: Like many other webcomics, the series has long story arcs, as well as a rather sporadic release schedule. To many people, it's easier to enjoy a story arc by plowing through it in one go rather than waiting several days for each new page, so they enjoy the print collections more.



* WhatAnIdiot:
** Tsukiko may have been smart enough to figure out Redcloak was lying to Xykon about the Gate ritual, but by bringing everything into the open, straight to Redcloak's face, [[spoiler:she fatally underestimated the high priest of the Dark One]].
** If Nale thought his father was going to just let his [[spoiler:killing of Malack]] slide, especially after [[spoiler:he boasted about making the cleric suffer while dying ''straight to his face'']], he didn't know Tarquin at all, and deserved everything coming to him afterwards just for being that ''stupid''. Even if Tarquin wouldn't have given him what he had coming, Laurin most definitely ''would'' have, making this doubly stupid.
** Oh yes, Bozzok, call the flesh golem [[spoiler:[[AxCrazy Crystal]]]] an idiot and do exactly what she was calling you on while you're totally and completely unarmed and have no way to defend yourself. See how long you last.
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** In Book 6, Bandana and Andi, the acting captain and the chief engineer of the ''Mechane'', both of whom are intensely polarizing characters. Andi (as well as some of the rest of the crew) don't take to Bandana's leadership well. Some readers insist that Bandana is reckless, incompetent, and egotistical, getting the ship into increasingly dangerous situations without adequately preparing for them, and trusting her crew to keep saving her bacon even as everything crumbles around her, and that Andi is the OnlySaneMan desperately trying to take control of a bad situation to get the ship to safety. Others argue that Bandana is a skilled and capable captain, and Andi is a petty, egomaniac lunatic who seized the ship out of sheer jealous rage and then immediately delved into CommanderContrarian, proving why she shouldn't be in charge of the ship like she desires. And then, there are those who TakeAThirdOption and think neither woman has the talent to be a captain. Still others think that Julio Scoudrel must have had good reason to promote Bandana as he did, and that her eventual performance proved him out.

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** In Book 6, Bandana and Andi, the acting captain and the chief engineer of the ''Mechane'', both of whom are intensely polarizing characters. Andi (as well as some of the rest of the crew) don't take to Bandana's leadership well. Some readers insist that Bandana is reckless, incompetent, and egotistical, getting the ship into increasingly dangerous situations without adequately preparing for them, and trusting her crew to keep saving her bacon even as everything crumbles around her, and that Andi is the OnlySaneMan desperately trying to take control of a bad situation to get the ship to safety. Others argue that Bandana is a skilled and capable captain, and Andi is a petty, egomaniac lunatic who seized the ship out of sheer jealous rage and then immediately delved into CommanderContrarian, proving why she shouldn't be in charge of the ship like she desires. And then, there are those who TakeAThirdOption and think neither woman has the talent to be a captain. Still others think that Julio Scoudrel Scoundrél must have had good reason to promote Bandana as he did, and that her eventual performance proved him out.
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** In Book 6, Bandana and Andi, the acting captain and the chief engineer of the ''Mechane'', both of whom are intensely polarizing characters. Andi (as well as some of the rest of the crew) don't take to Bandana's leadership well. Some readers insist that Bandana is reckless, incompetent, and egotistical, getting the ship into increasingly dangerous situations without adequately preparing for them, and trusting her crew to keep saving her bacon even as everything crumbles around her, and that Andi is the OnlySaneMan desperately trying to take control of a bad situation to get the ship to safety. Others argue that Bandana is a skilled and capable captain, and Andi is a petty, egomaniac lunatic who seized the ship out of sheer jealous rage and then immediately delved into CommanderContrarian, proving why she shouldn't be in charge of the ship like she desires. And then, there are those who TakeAThirdOption and think neither woman has the talent to be a captain.

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** In Book 6, Bandana and Andi, the acting captain and the chief engineer of the ''Mechane'', both of whom are intensely polarizing characters. Andi (as well as some of the rest of the crew) don't take to Bandana's leadership well. Some readers insist that Bandana is reckless, incompetent, and egotistical, getting the ship into increasingly dangerous situations without adequately preparing for them, and trusting her crew to keep saving her bacon even as everything crumbles around her, and that Andi is the OnlySaneMan desperately trying to take control of a bad situation to get the ship to safety. Others argue that Bandana is a skilled and capable captain, and Andi is a petty, egomaniac lunatic who seized the ship out of sheer jealous rage and then immediately delved into CommanderContrarian, proving why she shouldn't be in charge of the ship like she desires. And then, there are those who TakeAThirdOption and think neither woman has the talent to be a captain. Still others think that Julio Scoudrel must have had good reason to promote Bandana as he did, and that her eventual performance proved him out.
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** While using the spell [[{{Sizeshifter}} Thor's Might]] to become giant, Minrah gained the nickname "Maxrah".

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* FanNickname:
** Originating from his own words -- Belkar ''is'' the '''SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR'''.
** Durkon gained the nickname [[spoiler:"Durkula"]] very quickly on the official forums once [[spoiler:he got vamped]]. Got a FandomNod in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1030.html "Naming Names"]], where it's one of many options rejected by Roy when he tries to crowdsource an InSeriesNickname. Later, the most ridiculous suggestion in that page ("Greg") got adopted as the fan nickname instead.
** To go with [[spoiler:the High Priest of Hel's]] InUniverseNickname of "Lurky Corpsewhiskers", the [[spoiler:new High Priest of Hel]] is being called "[[ShoutOut Macey]] [[WesternAnimation/TheModifyers Shadows]]" by some.
** The other human female vampire is nicknamed "Ponchula", after her suggestion that the High Priest of Hel brings a poncho to some messed-up activities her host wanted to try...
** While using the spell [[{{Sizeshifter}} Thor's Might]] to become giant, Minrah gained the nickname "Maxrah".
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** In-universe, Tsukiko [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html sees]] Xykon this way. Out of universe, he's a LoveToHate villain to the fandom.



** Averted with Xykon, as Burlew took great pains to make sure that even though the character's GallowsHumor is funny, he's never sympathetic and never suffers VillainDecay. (Tsusiko was a {{Parody}} of someone who ''would'' apply this trope to him.)



* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Rich Burlew has deconstructed the trope several times.
** He's taken great pains to make sure that Xykon, the series' BigBad, never becomes a DracoInLeatherPants or LaughablyEvil. He gets a lot of funny lines, but he is also sadistic and cruel and always reminds the reader he's worse than any jerk.
** General Tarquin is shown to be GenreSavvy and seems to be CrazyPrepared, but he's shown that he has no real loyalty from his teammates, and he's not as savvy as he thinks he is.
** On the flip side, Miko is a paladin who is a complete "jerk", but is shown to be a WellIntentionedExtremist who has touching last words before dying.



* UnfortunateImplications: In an early strip, Belkar {{lampshade|Hanging}}s the unfortunate implications of the standard DungeonCrawling adventure plot:
-->'''Belkar:''' We have a goal?\\
'''Roy:''' Sure. Why did you think we were here?\\
'''Belkar:''' Well, I just figured we'd wander around, kill some sentient creatures [[FantasticRacism because they had green skin and fangs and we don't]], and then [[KleptomaniacHero take their stuff]]. ''[everyone else in the party glares at him]'' [[DefensiveWhat What?]][[note]]It's also a reference to ''On the Origin of [=PCs=]'', in that the entire reason Durkon joined Roy was that Roy refused to kill green-skinned fanged sentient creatures and take their stuff for no reason. ''Start of Darkness'' also focuses on the extreme racism of the paladins, wiping out a goblin village and murdering non-combatants because, well, they're goblins.[[/note]]
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** Sunny, a beholder who should normally be a LawfulEvil AbsoluteXenophobe, but calls Serini "Mom" and cheerfully chats with Elan -- and apparently plays with crayons.

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** Sunny, [[spoiler:Sunny, a beholder who should normally be a LawfulEvil AbsoluteXenophobe, but calls Serini "Mom" and cheerfully chats with Elan -- and apparently plays with crayons.]]
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** This is deliberately averted with Belkar, according to the foreword that Rich wrote for ''On the Origin of [=PCs=]''. While Belkar's evilness may be a result of [[FreudianExcuse a horrible childhood,]] Rich doesn't want to reveal anything similar because it would make all of his hilarious sociopathic scenes just look sad and tearjerky.

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** This is deliberately averted with Belkar, according Belkar [[LaughablyEvil of all people]] has his moments. After his character development (fake and real) kicks in, he finds himself struggling to process the foreword that Rich wrote for ''On the Origin of [=PCs=]''. While Belkar's evilness may be a result of [[FreudianExcuse a horrible childhood,]] Rich feelings he didn't experience or didn't pay attention to before. [[spoiler:Survivor's guilt after Durkon's sacrifice doesn't want to reveal anything similar because it would help.]] It doesn't make all of his hilarious sociopathic scenes just look sad and tearjerky.him less Chaotic Evil, but gets him some sympathy points.

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