History YMMV / TheOrderOfTheStick

29th Jul '16 4:10:57 AM Morgenthaler
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** General Tarquin, who along with his confederates rules three desert empires from the shadows, playing them all against each other (and every group not aligned with their empires) with their patsies none the wiser. He is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy and thus is perfectly and explicitly aware of the costs and consequences of the role he has chosen to play in "the story" -- he simply weighed the pros and cons, and saw that by ''his'' definition, [[XanatosGambit he will "win" no matter what happens]].

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** General Tarquin, who along with his confederates rules three desert empires from the shadows, playing them all against each other (and every group not aligned with their empires) with their patsies none the wiser. He is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy GenreSavvy and thus is perfectly and explicitly aware of the costs and consequences of the role he has chosen to play in "the story" -- he simply weighed the pros and cons, and saw that by ''his'' definition, [[XanatosGambit he will "win" no matter what happens]].
7th Jul '16 7:18:10 AM StFan
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** Although his villainy was always horrific, it was generally played with some kind of humor, or at least [[EvilIsCool some reader respect]]. However, Tarquin [[spoiler:calmly telling Elan that he is going to murder Haley, then murder everyone else on the Mechane, then top it off by [[ShoutOut cutting]] [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack off]] Elan's [[AnArmAndALeg hand]] with a [[DissonantSerenity completely calm, straight face]]]] cements him as a monster at worst, and extremely frightening at best.

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** Although his villainy was always horrific, it was generally played with some kind of humor, or at least [[EvilIsCool some reader respect]]. However, Tarquin [[spoiler:calmly telling Elan that he is going to murder Haley, then murder everyone else on the Mechane, ''Mechane'', then top it off by [[ShoutOut cutting]] [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack off]] Elan's [[AnArmAndALeg hand]] with a [[DissonantSerenity completely calm, straight face]]]] cements him as a monster at worst, and extremely frightening at best.
6th Jul '16 3:57:28 PM TheFellMind
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** Andi, the ''Mechane'' engineer, has lately been developing into one of these, thanks to her incessant resentment, jealousy and insubordination towards Bandana (temporarily TheCaptain on [[YouAreInCommandNow Julio's orders]]) stemming basically from Andi's contention that she has [[ItsPersonal more of a "claim"]] to the position than Bandana on account of [[DudeWheresMyReward longer service]]. Should the ConflictBall escalate to TheMutiny, it threatens to potentially leave the Order high and dry without transportation with the world hanging in the balance.
18th Jun '16 11:53:56 PM Malitia
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** Loki caps off his speech to the Norse Pantheon with "Vote Loki 2016". This is now the title of an actual comic starring the Marvel version of Loki.

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** Loki caps off his speech to the Norse Pantheon with "Vote Loki 2016". This is now the title of an [[Comicbook/VoteLoki actual comic comic]] starring the Marvel version of Loki.
1st Jun '16 5:55:25 PM MinisterOfSinister
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*** [[spoiler:Miko's subsequent fall from grace is also her own fault, but it means that when [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe she dies]], she is denied the only thing that still matters to her -- being a paladin. Not to mention following on the heels of a nasty Broken pedestal moment. At least [[ThrowTheDogABone she'll have the chance to see Windstriker again in the afterlife]].]]

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*** [[spoiler:Miko's subsequent fall from grace is also her own fault, but it means that when [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe she dies]], she is denied the only thing that still matters to her -- being a paladin. Not to mention following on the heels of a nasty Broken pedestal BrokenPedestal moment. At least [[ThrowTheDogABone she'll have the chance to see Windstriker again in the afterlife]].]]
1st Jun '16 5:40:17 PM nighttrainfm
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** Loki caps off his speech to the Norse Pantheon with "Vote Loki 2016". This is now the title of an actual comic starring the Marvel version of Loki.
31st May '16 4:46:33 PM Thecommander236
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** Belkar has always been one of the more divisive main characters but has become even more so in later strips with his 'fake' CharacterDevelopment. Some fans welcome the possibility that he will be redeemed and possibly die a hero. Others are less thrilled, either because they prefer him as an amusing completely amoral ChaoticEvil HeroicComedicSociopath or because they don't believe that any amount of good deeds can make up for the actions he's performed and therefore any redeption would be unearned.

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** Belkar has always been one of the more divisive main characters but has become even more so in later strips with his 'fake' CharacterDevelopment. Some fans welcome the possibility that he will be redeemed and possibly die a hero. Others are less thrilled, either because they prefer him as an amusing completely amoral ChaoticEvil HeroicComedicSociopath or because they don't believe that any amount of good deeds can make up for the actions he's performed and therefore any redeption redemption would be unearned.
31st May '16 3:39:53 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** In-universe, Tsukiko [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html sees]] Xykon this way.

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** In-universe, Tsukiko [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html sees]] Xykon this way. Out of universe, he's a LoveToHate villain to the fandom.



** The misspelling "''Zykon'' the sorcerer" remains a [[{{Pun}} bone of contention]] not just for the forums, but even in-universe for the dread lich himself, who can even spot his name being mangled in a [[MediumAwareness speech bubble.]]

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** The misspelling "''Zykon'' the sorcerer" remains a [[{{Pun}} bone of contention]] not just for the forums, but even in-universe for the dread lich himself, who can even spot his name being mangled in a [[MediumAwareness [[FourthWallObserver speech bubble.]]



** Vaarsuvius; [[spoiler:Yukyuk]]

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** Vaarsuvius; [[spoiler:Yukyuk]]Vaarsuvius. S/He is arrogant, selfish and at times uses his/her spells just to screw with people s/he doesn't like. At the same time, s/he is humbled at the Battle for Azure City and haunted by the memory of it, gets sued for divorce by his/her mate and discovers that [[spoiler:[[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom s/he is responsible for the deaths of countless innocents because of one epic spell s/he cast]]]]. Not exactly pleasant fates.
** [[spoiler:Yukyuk]] when Belkar decides to get back at him for injuring Mr. Scruffy. ''Gross''.



** Miko Miyazaki is everything wrong with a paladin, but one of the bonus strips shows her trying to socialize with other paladins to celebrate New Year's only for her own KnightTemplar tendencies to alienate them, forcing her to celebrate New Year's alone with only Windstriker. It is implied this occurs every year. Miko's own zealousness causes her to be alone.

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** Miko Miyazaki is everything wrong with a paladin, but one of the bonus strips shows her trying to socialize with other paladins to celebrate New Year's only for her own KnightTemplar tendencies to alienate them, forcing her to celebrate New Year's alone with only Windstriker. It is implied this occurs every year. Miko's own zealousness causes her to be alone.alone.
*** [[spoiler:Miko's subsequent fall from grace is also her own fault, but it means that when [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe she dies]], she is denied the only thing that still matters to her -- being a paladin. Not to mention following on the heels of a nasty Broken pedestal moment. At least [[ThrowTheDogABone she'll have the chance to see Windstriker again in the afterlife]].]]



** [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0419.html Sabine thinks Miko is hot and would look good as a blackguard]].



** Xykon's completely unsympathetic, and he's also enormously entertaining.

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** Xykon's completely unsympathetic, and he's but also enormously entertaining.[[LaughablyEvil highly entertaining]]. His misdeeds are the worst in the comic, but he also makes some of the best jokes in the comic.



** General Tarquin, who along with his confederates rules three desert empires from the shadows, playing them all against each other (and every group not aligned with their empires) with their patsies none the wiser. He is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy and thus is perfectly and explicitly aware of the costs and consequences of the role he has chosen to play in "the story" -- he simply weighed the pros and cons, and saw that by ''his'' definition, he will "win" no matter what happens.

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** General Tarquin, who along with his confederates rules three desert empires from the shadows, playing them all against each other (and every group not aligned with their empires) with their patsies none the wiser. He is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy and thus is perfectly and explicitly aware of the costs and consequences of the role he has chosen to play in "the story" -- he simply weighed the pros and cons, and saw that by ''his'' definition, [[XanatosGambit he will "win" no matter what happens.happens]].



--->'''Redcloak:''' [[spoiler:See, the undead are tools. Powerful, dangerous tools. From the lowliest zombie to Xykon himself, the undead are just complex weapons that we make and aim at other people.]] All that differs is how direct or subtle our control of them is... [[spoiler: for our so-called master, more creative strategies are required.]]\\

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--->'''Redcloak:''' [[spoiler:See, See, the undead are tools. Powerful, dangerous tools. From the lowliest zombie to Xykon himself, [[spoiler:Xykon himself]], the undead are just complex weapons that we make and aim at other people.]] people. All that differs is how direct or subtle our control of them is... [[spoiler: for is. [...] [[spoiler:for our so-called master, more creative strategies are required.]]\\



** Someone on the OOTS forums referred to Bandana as "Banana" by accident. Then someone else posted a drawing of an anthromorphic banana commanding the ''Mechane''. No getting rid of the Banana after that!

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** Someone on the OOTS forums referred to Bandana as "Banana" by accident. Then someone else posted a drawing of an anthromorphic anthropomorphic banana commanding the ''Mechane''. No getting rid of the Banana after that!



* PainfulRhyme: Elan gets one in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0238.html the strip incidentally titled "You Try Rhyming 'Assassin'"]].

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* PainfulRhyme: Elan gets one in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0238.html the strip incidentally titled "You Try Rhyming 'Assassin'"]].this strip]].



** Incidentally, the strip is titled [[LetsSeeYouDoBetter "You Try Rhyming 'Assassin'"]].



** Tarquin's banquet serves phoenix pâté. Since phoenixes explode when they die, the liver has to be cut out [[CruelAndUnusualDeath while the bird is alive.]]

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** Tarquin's banquet serves phoenix pâté. Since phoenixes explode when they die, the liver has to be cut out [[CruelAndUnusualDeath while the bird is alive.]]



** NALE. If he thought his father was going to just let his [[spoiler:killing of Malack]] slide, especially after [[spoiler:he boasted about making the cleric suffer while dying ''straight to his face'']], he didn't know Tarquin at all, and deserved everything coming to him afterwards just for being that ''stupid''. Even if Tarquin wouldn't have given him what he had coming, Laurin most definitely ''would'' have, making this doubly stupid.
** Oh yes Bozzok, call the flesh golem [[AxCrazy Crystal]] an idiot and do exactly what she was calling you on while you're totally and completely unarmed and with no way to defend yourself. See how long you last.

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** NALE. If he Nale thought his father was going to just let his [[spoiler:killing of Malack]] slide, especially after [[spoiler:he boasted about making the cleric suffer while dying ''straight to his face'']], he didn't know Tarquin at all, and deserved everything coming to him afterwards just for being that ''stupid''. Even if Tarquin wouldn't have given him what he had coming, Laurin most definitely ''would'' have, making this doubly stupid.
** Oh yes yes, Bozzok, call the flesh golem [[AxCrazy Crystal]] [[spoiler:[[AxCrazy Crystal]]]] an idiot and do exactly what she was calling you on while you're totally and completely unarmed and with have no way to defend yourself. See how long you last.
8th May '16 2:54:35 AM RossN
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** Belkar has always been one of the more divisive main characters but has become even more so in later strips with his 'fake' CharacterDevelopment. Some fans welcome the possibility that he will be redeemed and possibly die a hero. Others are less thrilled, either because they prefer him as an amusing completely amoral ChaoticEvil HeroicComedicSociopath or because they don't believe that any amount of good deeds can make up for the actions he's performed and therefore any redeption would be unearned.
3rd May '16 5:50:43 AM KlawKalash
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** [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111631 Eight]]. [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125046 shipping]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129876 threads]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133747 and]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136627 thankfully]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138468 at]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141065 a]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144143 halt]]. Warning: Due to the tendency of forum posters to write {{fanfic}}s of their absurd pairings, visitors are advised to keep BrainBleach handy at all times.

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** [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111631 Eight]]. Eight]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125046 shipping]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129876 threads]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133747 and]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136627 thankfully]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138468 at]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141065 a]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144143 halt]]. Warning: Due to the tendency of forum posters to write {{fanfic}}s of their absurd pairings, visitors are advised to keep BrainBleach handy at all times.
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