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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The episode "Red Carpet Treatment" teaches us that revenge is sweet and totally worth investing years of your life and buckets of money in. And it's entirely possible that you can get away with it, too.
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** Basically any flashbacks of Jane's, including Jane coming home to find his family murdered, or his time in a mental ward.
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** Basically any flashbacks of Jane's, including Jane coming home to find his family murdered, or his time in a mental ward.ward.
** Jane breaking down, saying that he cannot keep up following Red John and telling Lisbon that he might just stop. This is after burning all the information he has on Red John and basically drink himself to sleep.
** Jane breaking down, saying that he cannot keep up following Red John and telling Lisbon that he might just stop. This is after burning all the information he has on Red John and basically drink himself to sleep.
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* AffablyEvil: Red John. Also [[spoiler: O'Laughlin.]]
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* AffablyEvil: Red John.Brent Stiles. Also [[spoiler: O'Laughlin.]]]] Red John is closer to FauxAffablyEvil.
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** Lisbon also grabs this since she didn't keep her phone on her while [[spoiler: protecting Hightower from an extremely dangerous serial killer, and therefore didn't get Jane's warning until the assassin walked right into the cabin.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: That damned [[ResetButton reset buttony]] season four premiere. [[spoiler:It basically negates all the epic GambitPileup in the season three finale.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Patrick Jane is the epitome of this trope. He is brilliant, charismatic and manipulative. He runs rings around poor Lisbon, the rest of the team and the criminals. Nobody ever knows the full plan except him and, on the rare occasion something goes wrong, he will get out somehow. The audience want Patrick to succeed in catching the murderers and to eventually get Red John even though his methods are often questionable.
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*SnowballLie: Seems to be getting that way after "Always Bet on Red", as Jane goes so far as to [[spoiler: forge evidence to hide the fact that he lied to the jury and really ''didn't'' kill Red John.]]
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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Subverted in an interesting way in both "Blood In, Blood Out" with Jon "Why squirrel hate me?" Sklaroff and "Red Letter" in Rick Hoffman. [[spoiler: Sklaroff's character is guilty of some drug charges and Cho pretends to kill him to get the real killer to confess. Hoffman's character isn't the killer, but is running a human trafficking ring through his anti-human trafficking organization.]]
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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Subverted in an interesting way in both "Blood In, Blood Out" with Jon "Why squirrel hate me?" Sklaroff and "Red Letter" in Rick Hoffman. [[spoiler: Sklaroff's character is guilty of some drug charges and Cho pretends to kill him to get the real killer to confess. Hoffman's character isn't the killer, but is running a human trafficking ring through his anti-human trafficking organization.]] ]]
** Seemingly lampshaded in "Blinking Red Light." Jane tells Lisbon to go with her gut and pick the suspect who looks like he did it. She immediately chooses William Mapother. [[spoiler: Subverted in that he was innocent; double subverted when the killer turns out to be played by David Paymer.]]
** Seemingly lampshaded in "Blinking Red Light." Jane tells Lisbon to go with her gut and pick the suspect who looks like he did it. She immediately chooses William Mapother. [[spoiler: Subverted in that he was innocent; double subverted when the killer turns out to be played by David Paymer.]]
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* ArcFatigue: It has been three seasons and still Jane is nowhere closer to Red John. Apparently the writers think the audience can just forget the trailer of season three finale and say the man Jane killed isn't Red John. Damn shame, because the finale is epic.
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** When Jane met [[spoiler: Red John the second time. Especially when he describes to Jane what they smelled like before they died.]]
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** When Jane met [[spoiler: an accomplice pretending to be Red John the second time.John. Especially when he describes to Jane what they smelled like before they died.]]
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* LawfulGood: Lisbon and Rigsby, big time.
** Van Pelt. She plays this almost completely straight, more than Rigsby or Lisbon at times.
** Van Pelt. She plays this almost completely straight, more than Rigsby or Lisbon at times.
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* ChaoticGood: Jane, natch!
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** [[FridgeHorror Goddamn, so he kills people just to piss off one asshole now?]] Jane really has to kill this guy.
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** Basically any flashbacks of Jane's, including Jane coming home to find his family murdered, or his time in a mental ward.
** Basically any flashbacks of Jane's, including Jane coming home to find his family murdered, or his time in a mental ward.
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** Contrast {{Psych}}, especially. Two shows with basically the same premise, but the [[{{Psych}} Shawn]] is [[BrilliantButLazy happy-go-lucky]] who solves crimes for fun and profit, where [[TheMentalist Jane]] uses his position at CBI as a means to find Red John.
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** Contrast {{Psych}}, especially. Two shows with basically the same premise, but the [[{{Psych}} Shawn]] is [[BrilliantButLazy happy-go-lucky]] who and solves crimes for fun and profit, where [[TheMentalist Jane]] uses is [[BreakTheHaughty troubled and self-hating]], only using his position at CBI as a means to find Red John.
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** Contrast {{Psych}}, especially. Two shows with basically the same premise, but the [[Psych Shawn]] is a BrilliantButLazy goofball who solves crimes for fun and profit, where [[TheMentalist Jane]] uses his position at CBI as a means to find Red John.
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** Contrast {{Psych}}, especially. Two shows with basically the same premise, but the [[Psych [[{{Psych}} Shawn]] is a BrilliantButLazy goofball [[BrilliantButLazy happy-go-lucky]] who solves crimes for fun and profit, where [[TheMentalist Jane]] uses his position at CBI as a means to find Red John.
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** Contrast {{Psych}}, especially. Two shows with basically the same premise, but the [[Psych Shawn]] is a BrilliantButLazy goofball who solves crimes for fun and profit, where [[TheMentalist Jane]] uses his position at CBI as a means to find Red John.
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*** The death of [[spoiler: The coroner]] in the episode 'Red Mile'. Watching him slip away while Jane focuses his attention on a simple coin trick is heartbreaking.
*** The death of [[spoiler: The coroner]] in the episode 'Red Mile'. Watching him slip away while Jane focuses his attention on a simple coin trick is heartbreaking.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Patrick Jane, arguably, yes he is quite the jerk, but considering that his wife and daughter were murdered by a serial killer, you do have some sympathy with him.
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* IdiotBall: Van Pelt grabbed it firmly at the end of season 3, when she ''hangs up'' on Rigsby. While she and O'Loughlin are at the place where a ''protectee'' is being kept. Did it not occur to her that he may have something ''important'' to say? [[spoiler: O'Loughlin's Red John's accomplice.]]
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** When Jane met [spoiler: Red John the second time. Especially when he describes to Jane what they smelled like before they died.]]
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-->'''Patrick''': (on a video recording) I'm looking for someone who... someone I can trust, someone strong. Someone at peace with themselves. Someone better than me. Someone who knows the worst side of me, and still loves me.
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** And [[spoiler: Bosco's deathbed confession of his love for Lisbon, and her reply. I didn't even ''like'' Bosco, and I was on the verge of tears.]]
** Lisbon finding a tape of Jane at the end of "Every Rose has its Thorn." It may double as a ShipSinking.
[[spoiler: -->'''Patrick''': (on a video recording) I'm looking for someone who... someone I can trust, someone strong. Someone at peace with themselves. Someone better than me. Someone who knows the worst side of me, and still loves me.
-->'''Erica''': (off camera) Sounds like an amazing woman.
-->'''Patrick''': She was.]]
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[[spoiler: -->'''Patrick''': (on a video recording) I'm looking for someone who... someone I can trust, someone strong. Someone at peace with themselves. Someone better than me. Someone who knows the worst side of me, and still loves me.
-->'''Erica''': (off camera) Sounds like an amazing woman.
-->'''Patrick''': She was.]]
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**Van Pelt. She plays this almost completely straight, more than Rigsby or Lisbon at times.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jane a guy who likes to mess with people for the giggles and because it's fun, and does police work out of boredom and altruism? Or is he a guy warped beyond all repair by his family's murder who messes with people and hunts out murderers to inflict pain?
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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Subverted in an interesting way in both "Blood In, Blood Out" with Jon "Why squirrel hate me?" Sklaroff and "Red Letter" in Rick Hoffman. [[spoiler: Sklaroff's character is guilty of some drug charges and Cho pretends to kill him to get the real killer to confess. Hoffman's character isn't the killer, but is running a human trafficking ring through his anti-human trafficking organization.]]
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* ReplacementScrappy: The new CBI Special Agent in Charge, Hightower, is an epic bitch to the team. She broke up Van Pelt and Rigsby, scolded Lisbon continuously, and hang Jane's fate on the team. By Season 3, she was getting [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap better]], though. In fact, [[spoiler: she saved Jane's life]].
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* CompleteMonster: Red John, albeit of the AffablyEvil variety. One of the first things we learn about him is that he murdered a small girl and her mom in revenge for the father insulting him on TV. He has killed 8 men and 16 women, the latter his preferred victims, 4 via an accomplice he later killed. He seems to have moved on from killing women for kicks and now is obsessively fixated on Jane; most of his recent victims are either to cover his own tracks, bar the two copycats he killed for "cheap imitations" of his work. Unusually, he actually somehow associates with other serial killers and seems to control them to a degree too.
** [[FridgeHorror Goddamn, so he kills people just to piss off one asshole now?]] Jane really has to kill this guy.
** [[FridgeHorror Goddamn, so he kills people just to piss off one asshole now?]] Jane really has to kill this guy.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: If you compare this show to other cop's procedural. His constant dickery aside, this show is about Jane's quest of vengeance. He was not actually interested about justice, truth, and law enforcement. All Patrick Jane wants is to murder the murderer of his family.
