History YMMV / TheMentalist

19th Sep '17 10:23:45 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: One very common reaction to the end of the season six premiere where [[spoiler:Red John captures and seemingly kills Lisbon, smearing his trademark smiley face on her face in blood as he calls Jane with her phone to taunt him]]. GenreSavvy fans were not amused.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Season 6's "Red John" is either the hands-down best episode of the series and a satisfying culmination of the show's MythArc, or an absolute travesty that fails to live up to the hype. There is no in-between with fans.
** There is of course the bipolar compromise of [[FanonDiscontinuity enjoying the episode in a vacuum]] yet despising it and everything that followed for what it did to the arc.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: One very common reaction to the end of the season six premiere where [[spoiler:Red John captures and seemingly kills Lisbon, smearing his trademark smiley face on her face in blood as he calls Jane with her phone to taunt him]]. GenreSavvy fans were not amused.\n* LoveItOrHateIt: Season 6's "Red John" is either the hands-down best episode of the series and a satisfying culmination of the show's MythArc, or an absolute travesty that fails to live up to the hype. There is no in-between with fans. \n** There is of course the bipolar compromise of [[FanonDiscontinuity enjoying the episode in a vacuum]] yet despising it and everything that followed for what it did to the arc.
17th Sep '17 4:42:38 PM jameygamer
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** Although the show takes place (almost) entirely in California (occasionally having ventured into neighboring areas like Tijuana or Vegas), it is mostly filmed in Los Angeles (despite being based in Sacramento and most episodes taking place in NorCal as opposed to SoCal).

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** Although the show takes place (almost) entirely in California (occasionally having ventured into neighboring areas like Tijuana or Vegas), it is mostly filmed in Los Angeles (despite being based in Sacramento and most episodes taking place in NorCal [=NorCal=] as opposed to SoCal).[=SoCal=]).
17th Sep '17 4:41:42 PM jameygamer
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Red John: the best MythArc since Series/TheXFiles, or the most annoying ArcFatigue since ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''?

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Red John: the best MythArc since Series/TheXFiles, ''Series/TheXFiles'', or the most annoying ArcFatigue since ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''?
17th Sep '17 4:40:37 PM jameygamer
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jane a guy who likes to mess with people for the giggles and because it's fun, and does police work out of boredom and altruism? Or is he a guy warped beyond all repair by his family's murder who messes with people and hunts out murderers to inflict pain?
** Red John/[[spoiler: Sherriff [=McCallister=]]]. Just what are his backstory and motivations? What led him to become a serial killer? Why is it that he seems to have absolutely no remorse for actions, but instead views them as NecessarilyEvil? It's revealed throughout the course of the show that he does not view himself as weak, unhappy, evil or in need of redemption, and that he does not feel himself deserving of punishment for his deeds, so what does that make him? Is he some sort of KnightTemplar or WellIntentionedExtremist? Does he suffer from BlueandOrangeMorality, BlackAndWhiteInsanity, or a little bit of both? Or is he just plain bonkers with delusions of grandeur? And did he start killing people before or after he [[spoiler: became a sherriff]]?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Is Jane a guy who likes to mess with people for the giggles and because it's fun, and does police work out of boredom and altruism? Or is he a guy warped beyond all repair by his family's murder who messes with people and hunts out murderers to inflict pain?
** Red John/[[spoiler: Sherriff [=McCallister=]]]. Just what are his backstory and motivations? What led him to become a serial killer? Why is it that he seems to have absolutely no remorse for actions, but instead views them as NecessarilyEvil? It's revealed throughout the course of the show that he does not view himself as weak, unhappy, evil or in need of redemption, and that he does not feel himself deserving of punishment for his deeds, so what does that make him? Is he some sort of KnightTemplar or WellIntentionedExtremist? Does he suffer from BlueandOrangeMorality, BlueAndOrangeMorality, BlackAndWhiteInsanity, or a little bit of both? Or is he just plain bonkers with delusions of grandeur? And did he start killing people before or after he [[spoiler: became a sherriff]]?sheriff]]?



* JerkAssWoobie: Patrick Jane, arguably, yes he is quite the jerk, but considering that his wife and daughter were murdered by a serial killer, you do have some sympathy with him.

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* JerkAssWoobie: JerkAssWoobie:
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Patrick Jane, arguably, yes he is quite the jerk, but considering that his wife and daughter were murdered by a serial killer, you do have some sympathy with him.



* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Subverted in an interesting way in both "Blood In, Blood Out" with Jon "Why squirrel hate me?" Sklaroff and "Red Letter" in Rick Hoffman. [[spoiler: Sklaroff's character is guilty of some drug charges and Cho pretends to kill him to get the real killer to confess. Hoffman's character isn't the killer, but is running a human trafficking ring through his anti-human trafficking organization.]]

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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize:
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Subverted in an interesting way in both "Blood In, Blood Out" with Jon "Why squirrel hate me?" Sklaroff and "Red Letter" in Rick Hoffman. [[spoiler: Sklaroff's character is guilty of some drug charges and Cho pretends to kill him to get the real killer to confess. Hoffman's character isn't the killer, but is running a human trafficking ring through his anti-human trafficking organization.]]
17th Sep '17 4:39:07 PM jameygamer
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* CaliforniaDoubling:
** Although the show takes place (almost) entirely in California (occasionally having ventured into neighboring areas like Tijuana or Vegas), it is mostly filmed in Los Angeles (despite being based in Sacramento and most episodes taking place in NorCal as opposed to SoCal).
** The opening scene of "Days of Wine and Roses" really takes the cake--it's said to take place in [[WretchedHive the Tenderloin]] in UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco, but the Tenderloin is considerably more built-up and dirty than the area depicted. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderloin,_San_Francisco There are only a small handful of parks in the area]], and none seem like a suitable place to sit and play chess.
** Now that the show's set in Austin, there is quite a bit of this.
19th Aug '17 9:57:43 AM Silverblade2
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* BaseBreaker: Red John: the best MythArc since Series/TheXFiles, or the most annoying ArcFatigue since ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''?

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Red John: the best MythArc since Series/TheXFiles, or the most annoying ArcFatigue since ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''?



* TheScrappy: Red John was already a BaseBreakingCharacter (see BaseBreaker); but after he was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[AssPull Sheriff Thomas McAllister]] instead of any of the other, more-developed and more-interesting suspects]], he seemed to fall firmly into this territory.

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* TheScrappy: Red John was already a BaseBreakingCharacter (see BaseBreaker); ; but after he was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[AssPull Sheriff Thomas McAllister]] instead of any of the other, more-developed and more-interesting suspects]], he seemed to fall firmly into this territory.
12th Jul '17 9:30:00 AM Peridonyx
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** Thomas Volker one of the few villains to pull a KarmaHoudini.

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** Thomas Volker one of the few villains to pull a KarmaHoudini. [[spoiler:Which doesn't last, however.]]
15th Jun '17 10:32:05 AM Peridonyx
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* TheScrappy: Red John was already a BaseBreakingCharacter (see BaseBreaker); but after he was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[AssPull Sheriff Thomas McAllister]] instead of any of the other, more-developed and more-interesting suspects]], he seemed to fall firmly into this territory.
15th Jun '17 10:23:57 AM Peridonyx
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** In the end, [[spoiler:Red John himself]] -- courtesy of his [[spoiler:AssPull (see above) identity and AntiClimaxBoss death]] in the Season 6 finale.

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** In the end, [[spoiler:Red John himself]] -- courtesy of his [[spoiler:AssPull [[spoiler:his AssPull (see above) identity and AntiClimaxBoss death]] in the Season 6 finale.
15th Jun '17 10:22:35 AM Peridonyx
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Many believe that Brett Partridge was funny enough and had sufficiently interesting interactions with Jane to add him to the core characters in the CBI. Instead, he was a sporadic character who was only used as an incredibly unsubtle Red John RedHerring.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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Many believe that Brett Partridge was funny enough and had sufficiently interesting interactions with Jane to add him to the core characters in the CBI. Instead, he was a sporadic character who was only used as an incredibly unsubtle Red John RedHerring.RedHerring.
** In the end, [[spoiler:Red John himself]] -- courtesy of his [[spoiler:AssPull (see above) identity and AntiClimaxBoss death]] in the Season 6 finale.
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