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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.
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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. (Technically, anyway; in practice, lack of clear battle zones meant women were fighting anyhow.) MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.
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* WhatAnIdiot: In the 2005 film, Susan starts arguing with Peter over whether or not the huge, menacing wolf at the head of the Witch's SecretPolice is really their enemy, even agreeing with Maugrim that Peter should drop the sword (that he was given by Father Christmas, of all people). Bonus points for taking this patently ridiculous stance while they're trying to cross a river that's melting under their feet.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Aslan's death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.]]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Aslan's death, especially death on the first read, and even on further readings since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.]]
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* FoeYay: Some signs of it between Jadis and Edmund. Though it goes a little on the MemeticMolester territory since she's an immortal adult and Edmund well....10.
* FridgeHorror:
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]
* FridgeHorror:
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]
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* FoeYay: Some signs of it between Jadis and Edmund. Though it goes a little on the MemeticMolester territory since she's an immortal adult and Edmund well....10.
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]Edmund ....10.
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]
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*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.
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* HilariousInHindsight: One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.
** When Edmund complains that it's raining outside, Susan mentions that they have a "wireless" inside to entertain them.
** One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.
** When Edmund complains that it's raining outside, Susan mentions that they have a "wireless" inside to entertain them.
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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
** Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner.
** Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner.
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*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, b efore before un-petrifying him?
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*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
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* FoeYay: Some signs of it between Jadis and Edmund. Though it goes a little on the MemeticMolester territory since she's an immortal adult and Edmund well....10.
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** Mr. Tumnus, particularly in the movie, where there's an added scene of him meeting Edmund in prison and, despite obviously having been hurt during his stay, is more concerned about Lucy's wellbeing than his own. Not to mention that his petrified body looks like he was either terrified or in a lot of pain, before being frozen.
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* CompleteMonster: The White Witch.
** Rectified in retrospect, however, as in ''The Magician's Nephew'' we learn that, [[spoiler:by being cursed for he theft of The Tree's apple]], she's condemned to [[JerkassWoobie never be happy and forever to feel misery]].
** Well, WhoWantsToLiveForever?
** Rectified in retrospect, however, as in ''The Magician's Nephew'' we learn that, [[spoiler:by being cursed for he theft of The Tree's apple]], she's condemned to [[JerkassWoobie never be happy and forever to feel misery]].
** Well, WhoWantsToLiveForever?
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*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
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* FauxActionGirl: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending.
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} in little pieces.]]
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good end? His body stays stone forever. The bad end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} in little pieces.]]
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good bad end? His body stays stone forever. forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The bad ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} in little pieces.]]
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good end? His body stays stone forever. The bad end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[Squick in little pieces.]]
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** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good end? His body stays stone forever. The bad end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[Squick [[{{Squick}} in little pieces.]]
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* FridgeHorror: How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
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* FridgeHorror: FridgeHorror:
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good end? His body stays stone forever. The bad end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[Squick in little pieces.]]
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The good end? His body stays stone forever. The bad end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[Squick in little pieces.]]
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
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* FauxActionGirl: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending.
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* FauxActionGirl: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending.
* TearJerker: Aslan's death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.
* TearJerker: Aslan's death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.
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* FauxActionGirl: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Aslan surrenders himself to be killed by the White Witch in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part place of any of the battle scenes, being limited Edmund, but comes back to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending.
life through ThePowerOfLove.]]
* TearJerker:Aslan's [[spoiler:Aslan's death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.]]
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** Rectified in retrospect, however, as in ''The Magician's Nephew'' we learn that, [[spoiler:by being cursed for he theft of The Tree's apple]], she's condemned to [[JerkassWoobie never be happy and forever to feel misery]].
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* NeutralFemale: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending. Lucy too, but that's justified by her young age.
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* NeutralFemale: FauxActionGirl: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending. Lucy too, but that's justified by her young age.
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* NeutralFemale: Susan, arguably. She's an archer, and at least in the film, a good one. Yet she's never part of any of the battle scenes, being limited to calling for Peter's help and shooting one stray dwarf in the ending. Lucy too, but that's justified by her young age.
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* TearJerker: Aslan's death (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're a Christian.
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* TearJerker: Aslan's death (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're a Christian.familiar with the Bible.
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* HilariousInHindsight: One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.
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** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]
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I know it\'s YMMV, but the page mentions three specific criteria and it only kind of fits one of them (strange in context, and even then, Narnia is the original Fantasy Kitchen Sink, so it\'s not THAT strange in context). It\'s relevant to and advances the plot (heralding Aslan\'s return and the end of the Witch\'s power, providing the Pevensies their weapons and Lucy\'s plot-critical cordial), and it is mentioned again more than once, including in Prince Caspian.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: ''Father Christmas?''
** Made even funnier in the movie when Susan later refers to Father Christmas (who was distinctly NOT the American version of Santa Claus) a "man in a red suit".
** Made even funnier in the movie when Susan later refers to Father Christmas (who was distinctly NOT the American version of Santa Claus) a "man in a red suit".
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* FridgeHorror: How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
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* TearJerker: Aslan's death (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're a Christian.
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* UncannyValley: Mr. Beaver advises the Pevensie children that if something claims to be, used to be, or may become human, "keep an eye on it and feel for your hatchet."
