History YMMV / TheFaultInOurStars

5th Nov '16 9:07:44 AM Anddrix
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** When strangers yell "beautiful couple is beautiful" at the main characters. "[adjective] [noun] is [same adjective]" is an old {{meme|ticMutation}}, although Green may not have known about it.
** Some readers thought the throng of people applauding after Hazel & Augustus make out in the Anne Frank house was a bit much.

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** When strangers yell "beautiful couple is beautiful" at the main characters. "[adjective] [noun] is [same adjective]" is an old {{meme|ticMutation}}, although Green may not have known about it.
{{meme|ticMutation}}.
** Some readers thought the throng of people applauding after Hazel & and Augustus make out in the Anne Frank house was a bit much.
5th Nov '16 8:38:15 AM Anddrix
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* {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Certain aspects of the book have a bit of a LoveItOrHateIt reputation.

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* {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Certain aspects of the book have a bit of a LoveItOrHateIt reputation.{{Narm}}:



** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers.
** Green confirmed on his blog that this too was deliberate - Hazel's very bright for her age, but she's still a teenager and doesn't really understand advanced concepts like these.
31st Oct '16 2:44:36 AM Galliwasp
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** Some readers dislike Augustus for his grandiose mannerisms and his love of metaphor, but others argue that he was meant to be written that way, because ''wanting'' to be impressive and memorable is an established character trait of his.\\\

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** Some readers dislike Augustus for Augustus, claiming that his grandiose mannerisms and his love of metaphor, metaphor make him grating and pretentious, but others argue that he was meant to be written that way, because ''wanting'' to be impressive and memorable is an established character trait of his.\\\



** There are also readers who think Van Houten's behavior is pretty sensible to a reclusive artist whose privacy has been disturbed, especially after he was just assaulted in his own home by someone he didn't want there to begin with. He may be a huge jerk, but the points he makes are sound, and his experience makes him unlikely to extend politeness to Hazel and Gus just because they're used to Cancer Perks. On the other hand, he ''had'' all but promised to see them, and Hazel and Gus had no way of knowing that.

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** There are also readers who think Van Houten's behavior is pretty sensible to a reclusive artist ReclusiveArtist whose privacy has been disturbed, especially after he was just assaulted in his own home by someone he didn't want there to begin with. He may be a huge jerk, but the points he makes are sound, and since his experience makes him unlikely to extend politeness to Hazel and Gus just because they're used to Cancer Perks. On the other hand, he ''had'' all but promised to see them, and Hazel and Gus had no way of knowing that. that, and he was still inexcusably mean and insensitive.



%% * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Boom Clap" and "Not About Angels" in the film.

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%% * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The film's soundtrack is very well-chosen. "Boom Clap" is an incredibly catchy and upbeat EarWorm, while "Not About Angels" in and "All of the film.Stars" are appropriately [[TearJerker tearjerky]] and emotional pieces for the film's third act.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hazel's "you could be an axe murderer" line becomes a lot grimmer once you realize that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=196&v=wQKwwC72BJE John actually knew and bullied a soon-to-be axe murderer.]]
* HarsherInHindsight: Seeing Shailene Woodley having to [[spoiler:say goodbye to Ansel Elgort as he dies from cancer]] will become even sadder when ''Film/TheDivergentSeriesAscendant'' which features both actors is released. [[spoiler:This time it's Woodley who will be dying]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hazel's "you could be an axe murderer" line becomes a lot grimmer once you realize that after watching John Green's video about how he [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=196&v=wQKwwC72BJE John actually knew and bullied went to high school with a soon-to-be axe murderer.]]
* HarsherInHindsight: Seeing Shailene Woodley having to [[spoiler:say goodbye to Ansel Elgort as he dies from cancer]] will might become even sadder when ''Film/TheDivergentSeriesAscendant'' which features if both actors is released. [[spoiler:This time it's Woodley who are cast in ''Film/TheDivergentSeriesAscendant'', where [[spoiler: Caleb (played by Elgort) will be dying]].have to say goodbye to his sister (played by Woodley) before her lethal HeroicSacrifice]].



* {{Narm}}:

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* {{Narm}}:{{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Certain aspects of the book have a bit of a LoveItOrHateIt reputation.



** When strangers yell "beautiful couple is beautiful" at the main characters. "[adjective] [noun] is [same adjective]" is an old {{meme|ticMutation}}.
** Some readers thought the throng of people applauding after Hazel & Augustus make out ''in the Anne Frank house'' was a bit much.
** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers. Green confirmed on his blog that this too was deliberate - Hazel's very bright for her age, but she's still a teenager and doesn't really understand advanced concepts like these.
%% * NeverLiveItDown: Augustus' idea of what a metaphor is is about on the same level as Music/AlanisMorrisette's idea of what irony is.

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** When strangers yell "beautiful couple is beautiful" at the main characters. "[adjective] [noun] is [same adjective]" is an old {{meme|ticMutation}}.
{{meme|ticMutation}}, although Green may not have known about it.
** Some readers thought the throng of people applauding after Hazel & Augustus make out ''in in the Anne Frank house'' house was a bit much.
** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers. numbers.
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Green confirmed on his blog that this too was deliberate - Hazel's very bright for her age, but she's still a teenager and doesn't really understand advanced concepts like these.
%% * NeverLiveItDown: Augustus' idea of what a metaphor is is about on the same level as Music/AlanisMorrisette's idea of what irony is.
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7th Sep '16 8:49:23 PM HamburgerTime
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** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers.

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** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers. Green confirmed on his blog that this too was deliberate - Hazel's very bright for her age, but she's still a teenager and doesn't really understand advanced concepts like these.
31st Aug '16 1:08:21 PM MathsAngelicVersion
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** Hazel's infinity quote[[note]]There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1. There's .1 and .12 and .112 and an infinite collection of others. Of course, there is a bigger infinite set of numbers between 0 and 2, or between 0 and a million. Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. A writer we used to like taught us that. There are days, many of them, when I resent the size of my unbounded set. I want more numbers than I'm likely to get, and God, I want more numbers for Augustus Waters than he got. But, Gus, my love, I cannot tell you how thankful I am for our little infinity. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You gave me a forever within the numbered days, and I'm grateful.[[/note]] might lose its impact and become laughable when you learn that it's mathematically incorrect. While some infinities ''are'' bigger than other infinities - the set of all rational numbers is for instance smaller than the set of all real numbers - the intervals [0, 1], [0, 2] and [0, 1000000] actually contain the same amount of real numbers.
28th Aug '16 9:00:58 PM HamburgerTime
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* EarWorm: "[[Music/CharliXCX BOOM CLAP THE SOUND OF MY HEART THE BEAT GOES ON AND ON AND...]]"
25th May '16 1:57:14 PM Anddrix
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** Some readers dislike Augustus for his grandiose mannerisms and his love of metaphor, but others argue that he was meant to be written that way, because ''wanting'' to be impressive and memorable is an established character trait of his.\\
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** Some readers dislike Augustus for his grandiose mannerisms and his love of metaphor, but others argue that he was meant to be written that way, because ''wanting'' to be impressive and memorable is an established character trait of his.\\
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** Monica herself as to whether she should be sympathised with or not. On the one hand, she's just a teenager who had a panic that was at least understandable. On the other, it was insensitive of her to make a promise she didn't end up keeping. Everyone else doesn't really get mad until after Isaac's surgery when she hasn't even contacted him at all - which is what prompts Augustus to egg her car. It's hinted (see above) that even the girl's own mother is disgusted with her.

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** Monica herself as to whether she should be sympathised with or not. On the one hand, she's just a teenager who had a panic that was at least understandable. On the other, it was insensitive of her to make a promise she didn't end up keeping. Everyone else doesn't really get mad until after Isaac's surgery when she hasn't even contacted him at all - which is what prompts Augustus to egg her car. It's hinted (see above) that even the girl's own mother is disgusted with her.



* HarsherInHindsight: Seeing Shailene Woodley having to [[spoiler: say goodbye to Ansel Elgort as he dies from cancer]] will become even sadder when the film version of ''[[{{Literature/Divergent}} The Divergent Series: Ascendant]]'' is released. [[spoiler: This time it's Woodley who will be dying]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: Seeing Shailene Woodley having to [[spoiler: say [[spoiler:say goodbye to Ansel Elgort as he dies from cancer]] will become even sadder when the film version of ''[[{{Literature/Divergent}} The Divergent Series: Ascendant]]'' ''Film/TheDivergentSeriesAscendant'' which features both actors is released. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This time it's Woodley who will be dying]].



* HilariousInHindsight: As mentioned many times on this wiki, this film was released around the same time as the adaptation of ''{{Literature/Divergent}}''. Both based on YA novels and both starring Shailene Woodley and Ansel Elgort. Playing brother and sister. What's more is that Shailene Woodley had been offered the title role in ''{{Film/Carrie2013}}'' - where they would have been JustFriends.

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* HilariousInHindsight: As mentioned many times on this wiki, Both this film was and ''Film/{{Divergent}}'' were released around the same time as the adaptation of ''{{Literature/Divergent}}''. each other. Both based on YA {{young adult|Literature}} novels and both starring Shailene Woodley Creator/ShaileneWoodley and Ansel Elgort. Creator/AnselElgort. Playing love interests here and brother and sister. sister in ''Divergent''. What's more is that Shailene Woodley had been offered the title role in ''{{Film/Carrie2013}}'' ''Film/{{Carrie|2013}}'', which also featured Ansel Elgort - where they their characters would have been JustFriends.



** Once the film was released, there were plenty of memes theorising that Augustus's name is really [[{{Literature/Divergent}} Caleb Prior]] and Hazel is a ReplacementGoldfish for [[spoiler: his dead sister]].

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** Once the film was released, there were plenty of memes theorising that Augustus's name is really [[{{Literature/Divergent}} [[Film/{{Divergent}} Caleb Prior]] and Hazel is a ReplacementGoldfish for [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his dead sister]].
25th May '16 4:36:26 AM fearlessnikki
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** Some readers also dislike Hazel, feeling that she holds herself to be better than everyone else, is very judgmental, puts down other people's emotions instead of showing empathy and that she is extremely self-entitled. The way she tells Gus to be appreciative of the life and people around him rubs these readers the wrong way, as it comes across to them as her invalidating his (perfectly understandable) desire to have a larger life than what he got.

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** Some readers also dislike Hazel, feeling that she holds herself to be better than everyone else, is very judgmental, puts down other people's emotions instead of showing empathy and that she is extremely self-entitled. The way she tells Gus to be appreciative of the life and people around him rubs these readers the wrong way, as it comes across to them as her invalidating his (perfectly understandable) desire to have a larger life than what he got. On the other hand, Hazel does have a right to be a little offended since Gus is implying he doesn't feel their relationship is important.



** Monica's mother going back inside to allow Hazel, Gus and Isaac to egg Monica's car. Does she just not want to argue with the teens who have eggs? Does she give them a pass because they have cancer? Or does she also think what her daughter did was a dick move and feels this is a worthy comeuppance for her?
** Monica herself as to whether she should be sympathised with or not. On the one hand, she's just a teenager who had a panic that was at least understandable. On the other, it was insensitive of her to make a promise she didn't end up keeping. Everyone else doesn't really get mad until after Isaac's surgery when she hasn't even contacted him at all - which is what prompts Augustus to egg her car. It's hinted (see above) that even the girl's own mother is disgusted with her.



* HarsherInHindsight: Seeing Shailene Woodley having to [[spoiler: say goodbye to Ansel Elgort as he dies from cancer]] will become even sadder when the film version of ''[[{{Literature/Divergent}} The Divergent Series: Ascendant]]'' is released. [[spoiler: This time it's Woodley who will be dying]].
* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Lotte Verbeek giving the kids a tour of the Anne Frank House can make one smile if they've seen her in ''Series/AgentCarter'' where she plays a Holocaust survivor - who is also an IronWoobie like Hazel and Gus.
* HilariousInHindsight: As mentioned many times on this wiki, this film was released around the same time as the adaptation of ''{{Literature/Divergent}}''. Both based on YA novels and both starring Shailene Woodley and Ansel Elgort. Playing brother and sister. What's more is that Shailene Woodley had been offered the title role in ''{{Film/Carrie2013}}'' - where they would have been JustFriends.



%% * IronWoobie: Augustus is this from the start of the novel.[[spoiler: He begins to crack by the end]].

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%% * IronWoobie: Augustus is this from the start of the novel.novel. Despite having a prosthetic leg, he takes everything in stride and tries to make the best out of his situation. [[spoiler: He begins to crack by the end]].



%% * JerkassWoobie: Van Houten. Yes, hes a drunk asshat, but you have to admit he is sort of a tragic character.

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%% * JerkassWoobie: Van Houten. Yes, hes a drunk asshat, but you have to admit he is sort of a tragic character. [[spoiler: His daughter died of cancer, and he's been a depressed alcoholic ever since]].


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** Once the film was released, there were plenty of memes theorising that Augustus's name is really [[{{Literature/Divergent}} Caleb Prior]] and Hazel is a ReplacementGoldfish for [[spoiler: his dead sister]].
10th Feb '16 6:27:34 AM Anddrix
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* AwardSnub: The movie was not nominated for any Kids' Choice Awards. Since it is thought to have been the only movie with any chance of beating ''Mockingjay'' its snub is especially significant. The book got nominated, but ultimately lost to ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' in one of its trademark upsets.

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The movie was not nominated for any Kids' Choice Awards. Since it is thought to have been the only movie with any chance of beating ''Mockingjay'' ''Film/TheHungerGamesMockingjayPart1'' its snub is especially significant. The book got nominated, but ultimately lost to ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' in one of its trademark upsets.upsets.
** Fox tried to get nominations for Best Adapted Screenplay and Best Actress for Creator/ShaileneWoodley. Neither were successful.
7th Feb '16 7:52:45 AM Freshmeat
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