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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Be honest, did you think that figure in pink in the back of the box art was going to be a man? Not only that, but a total cassanova at that? The fact that he's way in the back and in a very androgynous pose doesn't help. Raine can also be mistaken for a very hot effeminate guy... well, until thirty seconds of playing. Later, the kid Mithos also has a quite girly design, rather similar to Colette. Granted, [[spoiler: Colette and Mithos looking similar is quite deliberate and is meant to foreshadow the game's later developments.]]

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Be honest, did you think that figure in pink in the back of the box art was going to be a man? Not only that, but a total cassanova at that? The fact that he's way in the back and in a very androgynous pose doesn't help. Raine can also be mistaken for a very hot effeminate guy... well, until thirty seconds of playing. Later, the kid Mithos also has a quite girly design, rather similar to Colette. Granted, [[spoiler: Colette and Mithos looking similar is quite deliberate and is meant to foreshadow the game's later developments.]]]]
** Apparently, that rainbow {{Kitsune}} with a feminine sounding voice and name (Corrine) is male.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:Yuan. For a minor character who doesn't get a lot of screentime, the distinctions between NecessarilyEvil and WellIntentionedExtremist can blur.

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** Some people think Mithos and [[spoiler: Martel's relationship has incestuous undertones. The logic behind this is, how much can one person change the world, just to revive their sister if they aren't loving her ''[[BrotherSisterIncest that]]'' way??]]
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** [[spoiler: Yuan and Botta]] can also be a WakeupCallBoss if you are under leveled. While most bosses are solo and can thus be pushed into a corner and wailed on, these two are both full blown bosses and fight together, meaning that while you're trying to corner one, the other is wailing on your healers or casting eruption everywhere.
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** Zelos prepares a meal [[spoiler:with sleeping drugs]]. Just before serving, he grabs Lloyd from behind and hugs him tight. " 'Cause we're best friends, right? I worry about you. You must be tired." Or verrrry uncomfortable. Still, cue the {{Squee}}. Or just run with it altogether]].

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** Zelos prepares a meal [[spoiler:with sleeping drugs]]. Just before serving, he grabs Lloyd from behind and hugs him tight. " 'Cause we're best friends, right? I worry about you. You must be tired." Or verrrry uncomfortable. Still, cue the {{Squee}}. Or just run with it altogether]].altogether.

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** Zelos prepares a meal [[spoiler:with sleeping drugs]]. Just before serving, he grabs Lloyd from behind and hugs him tight. " 'Cause we're best friends, right? I worry about you. You must be tired." Or verrrry uncomfortable. Still, cue the {{Squee}}. Or just [[http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1600&bih=678&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=zelos+lloyd&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&gs_rfai= run with it altogether]].

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** Zelos prepares a meal [[spoiler:with sleeping drugs]]. Just before serving, he grabs Lloyd from behind and hugs him tight. " 'Cause we're best friends, right? I worry about you. You must be tired." Or verrrry uncomfortable. Still, cue the {{Squee}}. Or just [[http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1600&bih=678&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=zelos+lloyd&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&gs_rfai= run with it altogether]].

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* CompleteMonster: Even Kvar's own soldiers admit he creeps them out.

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* HoYay: Zelos occasionally acts slashy towards Lloyd. In Japanese, he even refers to Lloyd with the exact same epithet he uses on all his lady loves - "[[http://pics.livejournal.com/madri/pic/003fq5xz honey]]."

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Zelos occasionally acts slashy towards Lloyd. In Japanese, he even refers to Lloyd with the exact same epithet he uses on all his lady loves - "[[http://pics.livejournal.com/madri/pic/003fq5xz honey]]."
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* * MotiveDecay: [[spoiler:After Martel rejects Mythos, he goes from wanting to bring about (an albeit twisted and unnatural) equality to the world to wanting a world where he can live with his sister, at the cost of leaving the world to die]].

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* * MotiveDecay: [[spoiler:After [[spoiler: After Martel rejects Mythos, he goes from wanting to bring about (an albeit twisted and unnatural) equality to the world to wanting a world where he can live with his sister, at the cost of leaving the world to die]].

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* NightmareFuel: Paying too much attention to stuff in this may cause nightmares. It's covered by cute graphics, but sometimes even that doesn't help. However, [[spoiler:after Colette loses her soul, she's downright creepy, with GlowingEyesOfDoom and a complete apathy towards anything except that which threatens her.]]

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Paying too much attention to stuff in this may cause nightmares. It's covered by cute graphics, but sometimes even that doesn't help. However, [[spoiler:after Colette loses her soul, she's downright creepy, with GlowingEyesOfDoom and a complete apathy towards anything except that which threatens her.]]



* ClicheStorm: Deliberate in the early stages, and in true Tales Of fashion, is subverted hard the rest of the game.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Zelos is the only character in the entire Tales series (except [[TalesOfDestiny Leon]]) to place in the top 10 of every single official popularity poll NamcoBandai has done.
** Outside of Japan, at least, both Kratos and Sheena have formidable fanbases.

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** Outside of Japan, at least, both Kratos and Sheena have formidable fanbases. Especially Kratos.



* GoodBadBug: Tech Glitch.

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* HilariousInHindsight: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TRN052SZ0 This]] is a video showing a rare enemy called a Gentleman. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Does this remind you of]] [[TheSlenderManMythos anyone?]]

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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TRN052SZ0 This]] is a video showing a rare enemy called a Gentleman. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Does this remind you of]] [[TheSlenderManMythos anyone?]]



* InternetBackdraft: Just try and explain why Colette or Sheena is a better match for Lloyd and see how far that gets you.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Forcytus crosses it by [[spoiler:turning Marble into a monster and forcing Lloyd and Genis to kill her.]]

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* MostAnnoyingSound: Desian {{Mooks}}, when defeated, shout "beaten.. by an ''INFERIOR BEING''!" This happens ''every time''.

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* ShipToShipCombat: The aforementioned Colette vs. Sheena war, plus the numerous YaoiGuys ships. The various skits and ShipTease moments do ''not'' help one bit.
** Nor did the sequel, which decided to make ''any'' given pairing happen, depending on a question you ask Lloyd.

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* ShipToShipCombat: The aforementioned Colette vs. Sheena war, plus the numerous YaoiGuys ships. The various skits and ShipTease moments do ''not'' help one bit.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women; Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The only reason for this seems to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.
** Correction: All but ONE character turned into a monster by exspheres are women, but then again, Rodyle is an evil JerkAss so it's ok to leave him out. (He also does it [[EmergencyTransformation voluntarily]], whereas all the others were slaves at human ranches.)
* ThatOneBoss: Sylphs, if you're trying to get them early.

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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only Most of the characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women; women [[hottip:*: Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The mother)]]]] with the only reason for this seems seeming to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.
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DarkAndTroubledPast. Rodyle's an exception, but ONE character turned into a monster by exspheres are women, but then again, Rodyle he is an evil JerkAss so it's ok to leave him out. (He also who does it [[EmergencyTransformation voluntarily]], whereas all the others were slaves at human ranches.)
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* ThatOneLevel: Shadow's temple, which is basically a dungeon-long puzzle that forces you to wrangle five little NPC blobs that have the most critically stupid AI ever and can't grasp the concept of straight lines. Ymir Forest also tends to drag on.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Be honest, did you think that figure in pink in the back of the box art was going to be a man? Not only that, but a total cassanova at that? The fact that he's way in the back and in a very androgynous pose doesn't help. Raine can also be mistaken for a very hot effeminate guy... well, until thirty seconds of playing. Later, the kid Mithos also has a quite girly design, rather similar to Colette.
** Granted, [[spoiler: Colette and Mithos looking similar is quite deliberate and is meant to foreshadow the game's later developments.]]

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Be honest, did you think that figure in pink in the back of the box art was going to be a man? Not only that, but a total cassanova at that? The fact that he's way in the back and in a very androgynous pose doesn't help. Raine can also be mistaken for a very hot effeminate guy... well, until thirty seconds of playing. Later, the kid Mithos also has a quite girly design, rather similar to Colette.
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Colette. Granted, [[spoiler: Colette and Mithos looking similar is quite deliberate and is meant to foreshadow the game's later developments.]]

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* NightmareFuel: Paying too much attention to stuff in this may cause nightmares. It's covered by cute graphics, but sometimes even that doesn't help. However, [[spoiler:after Colette loses her soul, she's downright creepy, with GlowingEyesOfDoom and a complete apathy towards anything except that which threatens her.]]
** The Exbelua. OH DEAR GOD, THE EXBELUA!



* NightmareFuel: Paying too much attention to stuff in this may cause nightmares. It's covered by cute graphics, but sometimes even that doesn't help. However, [[spoiler:after Colette loses her soul, she's downright creepy, with GlowingEyesOfDoom and a complete apathy towards anything except that which threatens her.]]
** The Exbelua. OH DEAR GOD, THE EXBELUA!

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* NightmareFuel: Paying too much attention to stuff in this may cause nightmares. It's covered by cute graphics, but sometimes even that doesn't help. However, [[spoiler:after {{Narm}}:
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** Regal: "What is this ominous light
that which threatens her.to '''''engulf''''' us?!" That one is pretty much [[MemeticMutation a meme.]]
** The Exbelua. OH DEAR GOD, THE EXBELUA!** Due to the slow movements and wooden animations outside of battle, many supposedly action-heavy cutscenes come of as kinda undynamic and laughable. One example would be Genis running slowly in front of someone to block a fireball that got cast over 5 seconds ago and then casually wandering off again.
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** As mentioned in the main article, the dragon that gives 10,000 Gald upon defeat apparently only does so because of a typo that resulted in an extra zero -- the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only]] PlayStation2 UpdatedRerelease has it only give 1,000 Gald instead.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:Yuan. For a minor character who doesn't get a lot of screentime, the distinctions between NecessarilyEvil and WellIntentionedExtremist can blur.



* CompleteMonster: The Desians, from the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Grand Cardinals]] on top to the lowliest mooks. What puts them in YourMileageMayVary territory is the claim that persecution and genocide from humans drove them to joing the Desians and hate humanity, but the presentation is botched by not once showing us a Desian reflecting on the {{Irony}} of their situation, or expressing any hesitation or remorse in carrying out KickTheDog moments.

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* * CompleteMonster: The Desians, from the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Grand Cardinals]] on top to the lowliest mooks. What puts Even Kvar's own soldiers admit he creeps them in YourMileageMayVary territory is out.
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the claim that persecution and genocide from humans drove them to joing most evil character in the Desians and hate humanity, but the presentation is botched by not once showing us a Desian reflecting on the {{Irony}} of their situation, or expressing any hesitation or remorse in carrying out KickTheDog moments.game.


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* EvilIsSexy: Pronyma


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* FashionVictimVillain: [[spoiler: Yggdrasil]]


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* MemeticBadass: The above {{Kamahamahadoken}} has become a minor case of this, with people theorizing that if he'd just use it during combat, he'd be the most powerful character in the entire game.
* {{Memetic Sex God}}dess: Find someone who can surpass Sheena in hotness. ''We dare you.''
** [[http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-03/art/tos-zelos-wilder-02.jpg Challenge accepted.]]
* {{Moe}}: Presea
* * MotiveDecay: [[spoiler:After Martel rejects Mythos, he goes from wanting to bring about (an albeit twisted and unnatural) equality to the world to wanting a world where he can live with his sister, at the cost of leaving the world to die]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Forcytus crosses it by [[spoiler:turning Marble into a monster and forcing Lloyd and Genis to kill her.]]
** Rodyle [[spoiler:flooding a passageway where the escaping prisoners are to cut the party off from the Mana Cannon]].


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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: You mean Collette's a NiceGirl who gets kidnapped like, TWICE, and ApologisesALot? Who ''cares'' if she's an ActionGirl, she's a STOOPID AN WEAK AN USELESS AN ANTI-FEMINIST MARY SUE WHO MUZT DIEEEEE!!11!!!!111 *Facepalm*
* RonTheDeathEater: Collette gets a lot of this treatment in Lloyd/Sheena fanfiction.


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* StoicWoobie: Regal, especially in the anime, which takes his already tragic backstory and elevates it to outright TearJerker status. Despite all the bad things that happen to him, however, Regal never angsts unless the issue's being pressed.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women; Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The only reason for this seeme to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.

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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women; Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The only reason for this seeme seems to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.
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** Correction: All but ONE character turned into a monster by exspheres are women, but then again, Rodyle is an evil JerkAss so it's ok to leave him out.

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** Correction: All but ONE character turned into a monster by exspheres are women, but then again, Rodyle is an evil JerkAss so it's ok to leave him out. (He also does it [[EmergencyTransformation voluntarily]], whereas all the others were slaves at human ranches.)
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** Outside of Japan, at least, both Kratos and Sheena have formidable fanbases.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Quite a few examples since Lloyd can be paired off with anyone, but notably Lloyd/Sheena.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Quite a few examples since Lloyd can be paired off with anyone, but notably Lloyd/Sheena.Lloyd/Sheena and Zelos/Lloyd for the {{Ho Yay}} shippers.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women, Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The only reason for this seeme to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.

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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women, women; Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. The only reason for this seeme to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women, Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. Tthe only reason for this seeme to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.

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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: The only characters to be turned into monsters by the expheres are women, Marble, Clara, [[spoiler:Alicia and Anna (Lloyd's mother)]]. Tthe The only reason for this seeme to be to give the heroes some CharacterDevelopment and/or a DarkAndTroubledPast.
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* ClicheStorm: Deliberate in the early stages, and in true Tales Of fashion, is subverted hard the rest of the game.
** Hello, Dwarven Vows.



** The skit "Pretty Boys Die Young," in which Lloyd and Sheena comment that Zelos seems like the type of guy who just won't die. You can see where this is going.

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** The skit "Pretty Boys Die Young," in which Lloyd and Sheena comment that Zelos seems like the type of guy who just won't die. You can see where this is going.going [[spoiler:In one of the endings, he dies]].


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* GoodBadBug: Tech Glitch.
** Also of note: For the final boss fight with [[spoiler:Mithos]], in the beginning cut-scene, the final boss will randomly not move at all. He will just stand there, talking to you, mouth not moving, arms lifeless, body totally inert. [[spoiler:This is made even more chilling when you listen to his speech about becoming a lifeless being.]]


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** The dragons on the Island of Floating Dragons, since they launch powerful attacks that are difficult to dodge. Strangely enough, they don't even get boss music.
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* SlapSlapKiss: The relationship between Zelos and Sheena, at least on Zelos' part, has romantic implications.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Zelos is the only character in the entire Tales series (except [[TalesOfDestinty Leon]]) to place in the top 10 of every single official popularity poll NamcoBandai has done.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Zelos is the only character in the entire Tales series (except [[TalesOfDestinty [[TalesOfDestiny Leon]]) to place in the top 10 of every single official popularity poll NamcoBandai has done.
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* CanonSue: Deconstructed with Colette. She's an incredibly [[{{Moe}} cute]], borderline-YamatoNadeshiko who only has everyone else's best interests at heart and gets to become an angel... [[StepfordSmiler who is nearly completely dead on the inside due to her responsibilities as]] TheChosenOne and is put through a TraumaCongaLine in ''both'' worlds. Plus, that whole angel thing? Well, [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel let's just say it's not all it's cracked up to be]]...



* StrangledByTheRedString: [[YourMileageMayVary Lloyd and Colette]]

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* StrangledByTheRedString: [[YourMileageMayVary Lloyd and Colette]]Colette, but ''only'' if you don't pay attention to the RelationshipValues and end up with her as Lloyd's "default" soul mate. Actually investing in the relationship proves to have [[VictoriousChildhoodFriend quite the opposite effect]].
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** Also, [[DarranNorris Rodyle's]]...[[MadScientist Relation]][[CompleteMonster ship]] with [[TaraStrong Presea]] takes weird connotations given their respective voice actors' characters' relationship on FairlyOddParents.

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** Also, [[DarranNorris [[DaranNorris Rodyle's]]...[[MadScientist Relation]][[CompleteMonster ship]] with [[TaraStrong Presea]] takes weird connotations given their respective voice actors' characters' relationship on FairlyOddParents.

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* WallBanger: Several, all surrounding the Ymir Fruit puzzle in the Ymir Forest. Let's take a look:
** Colette, who can fly, can't fly up into the tree and grab one, so they have to knock it into the water.
** Once it's in the water, they don't want to reach in and grab it because of some unpleasant-looking fish, and sticking it with one of Lloyd's swords and lifting it out that way would apparently ruin it's medicinal properties, so they have to get some smaller fish to push it around.
** When Lloyd idly wonders how it would taste, everyone berates him for even considering the question, because they need to give it to a little boy to save his mother, so apparently this is the last Ymir Fruit in existence, because they can't go back and get another for Lloyd.
** If we accept that this is the last Ymir Fruit ever, then we accept that they're allowing a valuable medicinal resource to go extinct so that they can save ''one'' person, rather than trying to cultivate it so that in the future, hundreds or even thousands of people with the same sickness can be saved, even if this one person regrettably dies.
** If we accept that the tree most likely has more fruit because that would make more sense from a not-going-extinct standpoint, they don't return to the tree to collect some more fruit to take with them, because a fruit with medicinal properties that could cure infections, help heal wounds, or if nothing else just fight off scurvy is apparently exactly the thing you ''don't'' want to take when you're on a dangerous journey where getting injured or sick is not only likely, but could seriously derail what you're trying to accomplish.
*** Maybe the tree only grows a few fruit a year and the rest had evidently been taken already?
**** This gets thrown out the window if you mess up the puzzle. You can knock another down immediately. No matter how many times you mess up.
*** Or the more simpler reason: They don't want to go through that bullshit again.
** Why doesn't Regal use his KamehameHadoken to try to save [[spoiler:Botta and his subordinates]] instead of just [[{{Narm}} ineffectually kicking at the glass?]]
*** If he did, then the glass would shatter and potentially hurtle towards [[spoiler: Botta and pals]]. FridgeBrilliance anyone?
*** Or later on when he and either Presea or Colette are imprisoned in ''the exact same cell'' he broke out of before.



* {{Woolseyism}}: Raine and Genis were originally named ''Refill'' and ''Genius'', respectively, in the original Japanese. While the Japanese would find this [[NarmCharm incredibly funny in a good way]] (espeically since "Refill" is a healer, thus, she ''refills'' your HP), Namco's editorial team wisely realized that Westerners would find the names [[WallBanger eye-bitingly stupid]] and wisely dropped the "u" from Genis' name to preserve the joke without being too obvious, and came up with a nice equivalent for Raine without being quite as blatant as the Japanese version (that is, her English name invokes the image of a ''soothing rain'' washing away pain).

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* {{Woolseyism}}: Raine and Genis were originally named ''Refill'' and ''Genius'', respectively, in the original Japanese. While the Japanese would find this [[NarmCharm incredibly funny in a good way]] (espeically since "Refill" is a healer, thus, she ''refills'' your HP), Namco's editorial team wisely realized that Westerners would find the names [[WallBanger eye-bitingly stupid]] stupid and wisely dropped the "u" from Genis' name to preserve the joke without being too obvious, and came up with a nice equivalent for Raine without being quite as blatant as the Japanese version (that is, her English name invokes the image of a ''soothing rain'' washing away pain).
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* DieForOurShip: Colette, by some Lloyd/Sheena fans; sometimes they don't even hate her, just "need" to bash her because she's "in the way".


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* FunnyAneurysmMoment
** It's cute when Colette is drawing on Lloyd's hand in the opening cinematic, until you get to the point in the game where she does this, and learn why: [[spoiler:she ''can't talk''.]]
** The skit "Pretty Boys Die Young," in which Lloyd and Sheena comment that Zelos seems like the type of guy who just won't die. You can see where this is going.
** [[spoiler:The ending becomes a lot less hopeful for people who have played ''TalesOfPhantasia'' and realize that once Yggdrassil's system of mana distribution fell, it eventually lead to exactly what he was trying to prevent -- another great Magitek war that destroyed all advanced human civilization on the planet.]]


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* HilariousInHindsight: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TRN052SZ0 This]] is a video showing a rare enemy called a Gentleman. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Does this remind you of]] [[TheSlenderManMythos anyone?]]
** Also, [[DarranNorris Rodyle's]]...[[MadScientist Relation]][[CompleteMonster ship]] with [[TaraStrong Presea]] takes weird connotations given their respective voice actors' characters' relationship on FairlyOddParents.


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* InternetBackdraft: Just try and explain why Colette or Sheena is a better match for Lloyd and see how far that gets you.
** Also, don't bring up the Drama [=CDs=]. Just... don't.
** Or compare this to ''FinalFantasyX''. Doing the reverse yields the same results. Even after pointing out the many, many differences the slightest comparison ''will'' lead to {{Fanwank}} of unimaginable levels.
*** {{Grandia}} II says "hi".
** Or bash Colette.
*** Or, similarly, bash Sheena.
* MemeticMutation
** The infamous "Coffee [[MindScrew Mind-fuck]]" has generated a minor meme cluster, with Lloyd being referred to as [[FanNickname Coffee-kun]] on certain ImageBoards, and often being portrayed as an enraged Starbucks employee who offers only two options for an order - "motherfucking hot coffee" or "motherfucking cold coffee," offering none of that "Espresso or Frappucino bullshit."
** Kratos's apparent dislike of tomatos (he never uses them as an additional ingredient while cooking, and is less profecient at recipes in which they're required) shows up quite a bit in fanart.
*** Lloyd's dislike of Tomatoes is also brought up in various fanworks on a regular basis, [[spoiler: especially when people are trying to come up with father son similarities/bonding experiences]]


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* ShipToShipCombat: The aforementioned Colette vs. Sheena war, plus the numerous YaoiGuys ships. The various skits and ShipTease moments do ''not'' help one bit.
** Nor did the sequel, which decided to make ''any'' given pairing happen, depending on a question you ask Lloyd.
* StrangledByTheRedString: [[YourMileageMayVary Lloyd and Colette]]


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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Be honest, did you think that figure in pink in the back of the box art was going to be a man? Not only that, but a total cassanova at that? The fact that he's way in the back and in a very androgynous pose doesn't help. Raine can also be mistaken for a very hot effeminate guy... well, until thirty seconds of playing. Later, the kid Mithos also has a quite girly design, rather similar to Colette.
** Granted, [[spoiler: Colette and Mithos looking similar is quite deliberate and is meant to foreshadow the game's later developments.]]


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* TheWoobie: Colette. There is a split opinion on her-- and that's [[InternetBackdraft flame bait.]] Presea also counts.
* {{Woolseyism}}: Raine and Genis were originally named ''Refill'' and ''Genius'', respectively, in the original Japanese. While the Japanese would find this [[NarmCharm incredibly funny in a good way]] (espeically since "Refill" is a healer, thus, she ''refills'' your HP), Namco's editorial team wisely realized that Westerners would find the names [[WallBanger eye-bitingly stupid]] and wisely dropped the "u" from Genis' name to preserve the joke without being too obvious, and came up with a nice equivalent for Raine without being quite as blatant as the Japanese version (that is, her English name invokes the image of a ''soothing rain'' washing away pain).
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*** Or the more simpler reason: They don't want to go through that bullshit again.
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* CompleteMonster: The Desians, from the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Grand Cardinals]] on top to the lowliest mooks. What puts them in YourMileageMayVary territory is the claim that persecution and genocide from humans drove them to joing the Desians and hate humanity, but the presentation is botched by not once showing us a Desian reflecting on the {{Irony}} of their situation, or expressing any hesitation or remorse in carrying out KickTheDog moments.

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