History YMMV / SuperSmashBros

25th May '17 3:16:27 AM Midna
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** Many players hate that Fire Emblem gets far more attention than other franchises they consider more mainstream since it took six games for one to get an English localization, and even then it's still kinda niche. However, Fire Emblem has always been a mainstream franchise in Japan, ever since the first game on the Famicom.

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** Many players hate that Fire Emblem the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series gets far more attention than other franchises they consider more mainstream since it took six games for one to get an English localization, and even then it's still kinda niche. it never really left niche territory until ''Awakening'' and ''Fates'' started breaking sales records. However, Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' has always been a mainstream franchise in Japan, ever since the first game on the Famicom.
23rd May '17 5:28:03 PM RaustBD
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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead. [[/note]] In fact there are multiple comics and images showing certain members of the cast (namely [[spoiler:Lucas]]) [[http://tooneyd.tumblr.com/post/140270249313/its-5am-and-im-sick-as-a-dog-so-i-played-smash-to not taking this well]].

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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead.dead, she just escaped into a timeline that had a living one and kept her from dying there. [[/note]] In fact there are multiple comics and images showing certain members of the cast (namely [[spoiler:Lucas]]) [[http://tooneyd.tumblr.com/post/140270249313/its-5am-and-im-sick-as-a-dog-so-i-played-smash-to not taking this well]].
20th May '17 7:40:47 AM RaustBD
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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead. [[/note]] In fact there are multiple comics and images showing certain members of the cast (namely [[spoiler:Lucas]]) [[http://tooneyd.tumblr.com/post/140270249313/its-5am-and-im-sick-as-a-dog-so-i-played-smash-to Not taking this well]].

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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead. [[/note]] In fact there are multiple comics and images showing certain members of the cast (namely [[spoiler:Lucas]]) [[http://tooneyd.tumblr.com/post/140270249313/its-5am-and-im-sick-as-a-dog-so-i-played-smash-to Not not taking this well]].
20th May '17 7:40:12 AM RaustBD
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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead. [[/note]]

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** Bayonetta's line of "If you want to learn how to talk to a lady, ask your mum," considering roughly ''a third of the cast''[[note]] Lucas, Ike, Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Bowser Jr., Samus, Rosalina, Marth, Roy, Fox, Robin, Corrin, Shulk, Sonic, Cloud, and even ''[[HypocriticalHumor Bayonetta herself]]''. [[/note]] suffers MissingMom syndrome, the majority of which are or are heavily implied to be dead (and some of whom had the misfortune of dying in front of their children), and the other two thirds are characters whose parents are hardly touched on (so whether their parents are around or not is a completely different issue). In fact, the number of characters whose mothers have been seen and have survived the events of their games can be counted on one hand[[note]]Ness and Lucina, the Mario Brothers if you stretch the definition. And even Lucina's mother is technically dead. [[/note]][[/note]] In fact there are multiple comics and images showing certain members of the cast (namely [[spoiler:Lucas]]) [[http://tooneyd.tumblr.com/post/140270249313/its-5am-and-im-sick-as-a-dog-so-i-played-smash-to Not taking this well]].
10th May '17 11:43:20 AM BucketBomber
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*** Chandelure becomes stronger if it's hit by one of the many fire-based attacks in ''Smash Bros'', Cryogonal's Ice Beam instantly freezes you and is hard to dodge, Gastly can't be hurt if your character doesn't have a projectile, Koffing has a large attack radius and can lower your stats, and Petilil can put you to sleep.

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*** Every Pokémon enemy qualifies: Chandelure becomes stronger if it's hit by one of the many fire-based fire- or darkness-based attacks in ''Smash Bros'', Cryogonal's Ice Beam instantly freezes you and is hard to dodge, Gastly can't be hurt if your character doesn't have a projectile, Koffing has a large attack radius and can lower your stats, and Petilil can put you to sleep.
6th May '17 8:52:56 AM N8han11
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** There's also an even smaller minority of players who complain that certain movesets are not faithful to their actual portrayals in their home series. Wario and Ganondorf get these complaints the most, with the former completely ignoring the ''VideoGame/WarioLand'' series and the latter having barely any of the swordplay and long-ranged magic that he's well-known for in the ''Zelda'' series. Most players don't really care about this, and many of them feel that their portrayals are already faithful as they are (Wario is already strong and swift like in ''Wario Land'' while Ganondorf is overwhelmingly powerful like in the ''Zelda'' series with a few moves from his canon appearances).
20th Apr '17 10:02:49 AM Anddrix
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** Yet another [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Kid Icarus]] enemy, Ornes are absolutely vile. First, they're [[InvincibleMinorMinion completely invincible]]. Second, touching one [[OneHitKO instantly KOs you]] (and it doesn't even send you flying, you just get destroyed right there on the spot). Third, while there is [[HellIsThatNoise music]] that plays when you're near one, this sometimes works in the Orne's favor: It usually appears just outside your field of vision, so you can't be sure where it is in relation to your character. In your haste to leave the area, it's entirely possible for you to run right into it, unable to react in time and turn around. Worse still, there's a "Survive!" Challenge Door that puts you on a small platform with an Orne, and you have to run from it for several seconds in the limited space available, which can be nigh-impossible if your character is slow.

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** Yet another [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Kid Icarus]] enemy, Ornes are absolutely vile. First, they're [[InvincibleMinorMinion completely invincible]]. Second, touching one [[OneHitKO instantly KOs you]] (and it doesn't even send you flying, you just get destroyed right there on the spot). Third, while there is [[HellIsThatNoise music]] music that plays when you're near one, this sometimes works in the Orne's favor: It usually appears just outside your field of vision, so you can't be sure where it is in relation to your character. In your haste to leave the area, it's entirely possible for you to run right into it, unable to react in time and turn around. Worse still, there's a "Survive!" Challenge Door that puts you on a small platform with an Orne, and you have to run from it for several seconds in the limited space available, which can be nigh-impossible if your character is slow.
13th Apr '17 9:23:43 PM shonengirl
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** Both [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Marth]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Roy]] are seen in a much different light by fans who first knew them from Smash as opposed to their actual game appearances. WideEyedIdealist Marth becomes [[CampStraight an arrogant pretty-boy]], and the gentle and reserved Roy acts almost HotBlooded.

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** Both [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Marth]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Roy]] are seen in a much different light by fans who first knew them from Smash as opposed to their actual game appearances. WideEyedIdealist Marth becomes [[CampStraight an arrogant pretty-boy]], and the gentle gentle, reserved, and reserved highly intelligent Roy acts almost HotBlooded.is seen as HotBlooded, often to the point of obnoxiousness, and a cocky IdiotHero. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Ike]] often gets this as well, going from a humble but snarky, very calm, non-judgemental effective leader of average to above average intelligence to a cocky DumbMuscle.
13th Apr '17 7:08:09 PM santos32
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-->'''Cloud:''' [[GratuitousJapanese Genaki wo koeru!]][[note]]"Limits are meant to be broken!"[[/note]]

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-->'''Cloud:''' [[GratuitousJapanese Genaki Genkai wo koeru!]][[note]]"Limits are meant to be broken!"[[/note]]broken!"[[/note]]
** While hearing your character's win theme play after a hard-fought battle is always satisfying, extra mention goes to hearing the ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aWFpC013aU Victory Fanfare]] play when winning with Cloud. It perfectly captures the feeling of getting stronger with every win and obtaining experience much like its source game.



** Because Greninja made its first fully-voiced appearance in ''Smash'', some fans attested that its slightly silly voice and PokemonSpeak made it sound unthreatening when juxtaposed with its badass design and moveset.

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** Because Greninja made its first fully-voiced appearance in ''Smash'', some fans attested that its slightly silly voice and PokemonSpeak made it sound unthreatening when juxtaposed with its badass design and moveset. This only applies to its [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch-esque]] English voice acting, as in Japan it leans more towards BadassBaritone.



** Mewtwo will always be remembered for being considered the worst character in ''Melee''. In actuality, Mewtwo's position on the tier list has jumped quite a bit, and is considered to be "merely" low-tier instead of bottom-tier, but Mewtwo continues to be derided for being the worst character in the game. Part of this is due to the discrepancy between his canon appearance and his ''Smash'' appearance; in the ''Pokémon'' games, he is considered to be among the most powerful Pokémon, even among legendaries.

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** Mewtwo will always be remembered for being considered the worst character in ''Melee''. In actuality, Mewtwo's position on the tier list has jumped quite a bit, and is considered to be "merely" low-tier instead of bottom-tier, but Mewtwo continues to be derided for being the worst character in the game. Part of this is due to the discrepancy between his canon appearance and his ''Smash'' appearance; in the ''Pokémon'' games, he is considered to be among the most powerful Pokémon, even among legendaries. At the very least, he has [[TookALevelInBadass become a feared top-tier character in the fourth game]], which makes him a lot closer to his canon appearance as an unstoppable force of nature.



*** A lot of Smash players don't realize that Cloud's [[LimitBreak Omnislash]] predates Ike's Great Aether, or any similar Final Smash used by swordsmen (the Links' Triforce Slash, Kirby's Ultra Sword, Robin's Pair Up). Sakurai, on the other hand, most likely did, hence why Ike is on the receiving end of Omnislash in the trailer.

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*** A lot of Smash players don't realize that Cloud's [[LimitBreak Omnislash]] predates Ike's Great Aether, or any similar Final Smash used by swordsmen (the Links' Triforce Slash, Kirby's Ultra Sword, Robin's Pair Up). Sakurai, on the other hand, most likely did, hence why Ike is on the receiving end of Omnislash in the trailer. To be fair, most fans had taken to nicknaming said Final Smashes as Omnislash way before the move's innovator made his appearance in ''Smash'' proper.



** Because of their links together as the last 3 DLC characters in the fourth game, we have Cloud/Corrin/Bayonetta.



** Franchise/PacMan's inclusion in the fourth game has been known to attract older adults (parents, grandparents, etc.) that fall outside the demographics that ''Smash'' is generally marketed towards, however broad.

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** Franchise/PacMan's inclusion in the fourth game has been known to attract older adults (parents, grandparents, etc.) that fall outside the demographics that ''Smash'' is generally marketed towards, however broad. Obviously, as gaming's first true mascot (as well as the simplistic nature of his source game), this accounts for his popularity with adults who witnessed his success first hand.
13th Apr '17 10:39:55 AM Josef5678
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** Both [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Marth]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Roy]] are seen in a much different light by fans who first knew them from Smash as oppose to their actual game appearances. WideEyedIdealist Marth becomes [[CampStraight an arrogant pretty-boy]], and the gentle and reserved Roy acts almost HotBlooded.

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** Both [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Marth]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Roy]] are seen in a much different light by fans who first knew them from Smash as oppose opposed to their actual game appearances. WideEyedIdealist Marth becomes [[CampStraight an arrogant pretty-boy]], and the gentle and reserved Roy acts almost HotBlooded.
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