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* {{Moe}}: Cecile, Sanae, Sharon, and Belle.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Almost the ''ENTIRE'' fanbase pairs Cecile with Thomas.
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* HoYay: Caesar quite a bit with Hugo in the manga.
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* IronWoobie: One bad thing after another for Thomas, but does he complain?
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* FridgeBrilliance: So ''what'' were those apocalyptic visions that were so bad that they drove [[spoiler:Luc]] to JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope? Let's take a more in-depth look... [[spoiler:It was a colorless, stagnant world dominated by order and full of spherical monsters. While TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is bad enough and could possibly push anyone to try to avert it, when you remember Luc has a pretty intimate connection to somebody who has a True Rune that represents Order and has a circle motif, and that this person just might be the one person Luc hates more than Sasarai, his rather drastic actions to avert such a future make a LOT more sense. Still confused? Luc saw what might actually happen were Hikusaak to succeed in gathering all 27 True Runes, and if one of those True Runes were destroyed, this future becomes impossible to achieve.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Yuber.
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** Let's not forget Juan and Emily. To elaborate, the battle system allows characters with the right skills to attack several times per turn, and they can move on to other enemies when their enemy falls before their attack string is finished. These two can get more than 10 attacks per round ''each'', with each hit doing roughly 400 damage. Add to that the fact that Juan has a Waking rune attached permanently, which means he's [[TheBerserker doing at least double damage]] when he wakes up. The downside is that this means he's going to be sleeping for at least the first round, but you can equip accessories that nullify sleep to just have them demolish absolutely everything you encounter within one round. Even bosses don't last very long against that.
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** Let's not forget Juan and Emily. To elaborate, the The battle system allows characters with the right skills to attack several times per turn, and they can move on to other enemies when their enemy falls before their attack string is finished. These two can get more than 10 attacks per round ''each'', with each hit doing roughly 400 damage. Add to that the fact that Juan has a Waking rune attached permanently, which means he's [[TheBerserker doing at least double damage]] when he wakes up. The downside is that this means he's going to be sleeping for at least the first round, but you can equip accessories that nullify sleep to just have them demolish absolutely everything you encounter within one round. Even bosses don't last very long against that.
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** Salome has shown himself to be quite magnificent if he sets himself out to do it.
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** Salome has shown himself to be quite magnificent if he sets himself out to do it. Even moreso in the manga adaptation, where he [[spoiler:orchestrates a coup against the [[SmugSnake Zexen Council]] all while making it look like he was obeying their orders, and tricks the traitorous members into [[YouJustToldMe incriminating themselves as Harmonian spies]] with nothing but a few rumors and a forged letter.]]
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Alas Poor Villain is being moved back to Main. Examples that don\'t describe the moment or are purely editor opinion are being deleted.
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Luc's chapter]] is this in a nutshell. [[spoiler:We learn that the real reason he was trying to destroy the True Wind Rune was to prevent the series' actual Big Bad from using all of the True Runes to create a dystopia. Then there's Sarah telling Luc that she's in love with him, minutes before they die together. Finally, there's Leknaat forgiving the spirit of her former student and telling him that he is allowed to rest.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Albert Silverberg [[spoiler: constructs the entire plot of the game single-handedly and then casually derails it, confident that he's proven his genius and increased his reputation as a strategist.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Albert Silverberg [[spoiler: constructs the entire plot of the game single-handedly and then casually derails it, confident that he's proven his genius and increased his reputation as a strategist. Then there's the fact that he never once believed that Luc's plan would work, but only went along with it to show off his capabilities.]]
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** From his stupid name, to his status as a [[TheMillstone Millstone]] and a [[TagalongKid Tagalong Kid]], to the shit-eating grin in his character portrait, nothing Lulu said or did failed to get on This Troper's nerves. Also, with his small size and his habit of picking fights with opponents far more powerful than him, he actually bears an uncanny resemblance to the original Scrappy. [[spoiler: At least his death gave catharsis to players who had also watched [[ScoobyDoo Scooby Doo]] and wished such a thing would happen to the original. "LEMME AT 'EM! PUPPY POWWWWAAAAAAARRGH!"]]
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** From his stupid name, to his status as a [[TheMillstone Millstone]] and a [[TagalongKid Tagalong Kid]], to the shit-eating grin in his character portrait, nothing Lulu said or did failed to get on This Troper's nerves. Also, with his small size and his habit of picking fights with opponents far more powerful than him, he actually bears an uncanny resemblance to the original Scrappy. [[spoiler: At least his death gave catharsis to players who had also watched [[ScoobyDoo Scooby Doo]] and wished such a thing would happen to the original. "LEMME AT 'EM! PUPPY POWWWWAAAAAAARRGH!"]]]]
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* AlasPoorScrappy - [[spoiler: Lulu]] may have been annoying, but [[spoiler: his death at the hands of Chris was one of the saddest moments in the game, especially when you consider he was best friends with the main character and now his mother was childless.]]
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* AlasPoorScrappy - [[spoiler: AlasPoorScrappy:[[spoiler: Lulu]] may have been annoying, but [[spoiler: his death at the hands of Chris was one of the saddest moments in the game, especially when you consider he was best friends with the main character and now his mother was childless.]]
*GameBreaker AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Luc's chapter]] is this in a nutshell. [[spoiler:We learn that the real reason he was trying to destroy the True Wind Rune was to prevent the series' actual Big Bad from using all of the True Runes to create a dystopia. Then there's Sarah telling Luc that she's in love with him, minutes before they die together. Finally, there's Leknaat forgiving the spirit of her former student and telling him that he is allowed to rest.]]
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* MagnificentBastard - Albert Silverberg [[spoiler: constructs the entire plot of the game single-handedly and then casually derails it, confident that he's proven his genius and increased his reputation as a strategist.]]
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* MagnificentBastard - MagnificentBastard: Albert Silverberg [[spoiler: constructs the entire plot of the game single-handedly and then casually derails it, confident that he's proven his genius and increased his reputation as a strategist.]]
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* TearJerker - [[spoiler: Sana revealing that she was the Flame Champion's lover and wife, for whom he gave up immortality... an act which it's implied left them with only a ''very'' short time together.]]
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* TearJerker - TearJerker: [[spoiler: Sana revealing that she was the Flame Champion's lover and wife, for whom he gave up immortality... an act which it's implied left them with only a ''very'' short time together.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome - Geddoe's ShutUpHannibal moment to [[spoiler: Luc before the final battle]] basically boils down to "Finished yet, you little whiner?".
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming - Thomas' chapters, which have little to do with the plot, and mostly involve him running around his castle solving people's problems.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming - Thomas' chapters, which have little to do with the plot, and mostly involve him running around his castle solving people's problems.
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** This is unfortunately [[YourMileageMayVary subjective]]--a ''true'' MagnificentBastard avoids being ''hated'' by the audience anything but reluctantly, and as Albert has little in the way of personality and the success of his schemes can seem to follow more from The Plot Said I Would Win rather than any true displays of genius on his part, ''plus'' he [[spoiler:winds up something of a KarmaHoudini]]...there are two camps regarding Albert: MagnificentBastard, and SmugSnake of the worst variety.
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** The above is of the {{DiskOneNuke}} variety of this trope. However, some surprising characters are effectively {{game breaker}}s if you abuse abilities, titles, equipment etc. Quite possibly the best person in terms of pure destructive terror is a completely optional 15 year old girl. Who needs a True Rune anyway?
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** The above is of the {{DiskOneNuke}} DiscOneNuke variety of this trope. However, some surprising characters are effectively {{game breaker}}s if you abuse abilities, titles, equipment etc. Quite possibly the best person in terms of pure destructive terror is a completely optional 15 year old girl. Who needs a True Rune anyway?
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** Let's not forget Juan and Emily. To elaborate, the battle system allows characters with the right skills to attack several times per turn, and they can move on to other enemies when their enemy falls before their attack string is finished. These two can get more than 10 attacks per round ''each'', with each hit doing roughly 400 damage. Add to that the fact that Juan has a Waking rune attached permanently, which means he's [[Berserker doing at least double damage]] when he wakes up. The downside is that this means he's going to be sleeping for at least the first round, but you can equip accessories that nullify sleep to just have them demolish absolutely everything you encounter within one round. Even bosses don't last very long against that.
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** Let's not forget Juan and Emily. To elaborate, the battle system allows characters with the right skills to attack several times per turn, and they can move on to other enemies when their enemy falls before their attack string is finished. These two can get more than 10 attacks per round ''each'', with each hit doing roughly 400 damage. Add to that the fact that Juan has a Waking rune attached permanently, which means he's [[Berserker [[TheBerserker doing at least double damage]] when he wakes up. The downside is that this means he's going to be sleeping for at least the first round, but you can equip accessories that nullify sleep to just have them demolish absolutely everything you encounter within one round. Even bosses don't last very long against that.
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* CorwningMomentOfAwesome - Geddoe's ShutUpHannibal moment to [[spoiler: Luc before the final battle]] basically boils down to "Finished yet, you little whiner?".
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* CorwningMomentOfAwesome CrowningMomentOfAwesome - Geddoe's ShutUpHannibal moment to [[spoiler: Luc before the final battle]] basically boils down to "Finished yet, you little whiner?".
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Missed Moment Of Awesome isn\'t \"anything that would have been cool that wasn\'t done\"
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome - Peggi. He's a loud, brash lizard, a blacksmith and his official character artwork shows him with a huge hammer that's as big as he is...And he ISN'T a fighting party member?!
** The play mini game given there would be no voice acting until the next game.
** The play mini game given there would be no voice acting until the next game.
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** In addition to its [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Awesome]], the manga has a few bits of this in it, mostly when the focus is on Geddoe's group.
--> '''Ace:''' "Jeez! Women-- always asking you to get them stuff..."
--> '''Joker:''' "Hey, since you're buying--!"
--> '''Ace:''' "'''No way!'''"
** Geddoe, of all people, gets one in the game when confronting [[spoiler: Albert Silverberg, one of the villains]]...
--> '''Geddoe:''' "All I know is that you are depraving some poor village of it's idiot."
** If you have Nash to play as Sierra during "Neclord's End" play, he will deliver this line:
--> '''Nash:''' It's been a while, eh, Neclord. It's me, 'Old Hag Sierra' - I'm arrogant, never keep promises and suck people's blood at any chance.
** The Theater minigame is a goldmine for these, but try to get the in-game's worst actress into the most dangerous role...it's enough to make you want a silly laugh track.
-->'''Chris:''' (with an apple over her head to be '''shot''' by William Tell) ''"What did I do to deserve this?"''
*** If you choose an archer character whose skills are not the best, her comment will be justified...
*** Also, Geddoe narrating the heart-wrenching ending to the story of The Little Match Girl:
-->'''Geddoe:''' [[TheStoic ......The girl has died]]."
*** Do bad enough in the RomeoAndJuliet play, and the castle falls down.
** Geddoe punching out a villager that was running past him to attack Franz. The event doubles as a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome CMOA]].
** Anytime Branky, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Mel's]] puppet opens its mouth...and the subsequent WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!
** During the attack on Chisha.
--> '''Apple:''' "All right, Hallec. [[BoisterousBruiser You can stop shouting now]]...[[Berserker please...stop...]]
** In addition to its [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Awesome]], the manga has a few bits of this in it, mostly when the focus is on Geddoe's group.
--> '''Ace:''' "Jeez! Women-- always asking you to get them stuff..."
--> '''Joker:''' "Hey, since you're buying--!"
--> '''Ace:''' "'''No way!'''"
** Geddoe, of all people, gets one in the game when confronting [[spoiler: Albert Silverberg, one of the villains]]...
--> '''Geddoe:''' "All I know is that you are depraving some poor village of it's idiot."
** If you have Nash to play as Sierra during "Neclord's End" play, he will deliver this line:
--> '''Nash:''' It's been a while, eh, Neclord. It's me, 'Old Hag Sierra' - I'm arrogant, never keep promises and suck people's blood at any chance.
** The Theater minigame is a goldmine for these, but try to get the in-game's worst actress into the most dangerous role...it's enough to make you want a silly laugh track.
-->'''Chris:''' (with an apple over her head to be '''shot''' by William Tell) ''"What did I do to deserve this?"''
*** If you choose an archer character whose skills are not the best, her comment will be justified...
*** Also, Geddoe narrating the heart-wrenching ending to the story of The Little Match Girl:
-->'''Geddoe:''' [[TheStoic ......The girl has died]]."
*** Do bad enough in the RomeoAndJuliet play, and the castle falls down.
** Geddoe punching out a villager that was running past him to attack Franz. The event doubles as a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome CMOA]].
** Anytime Branky, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Mel's]] puppet opens its mouth...and the subsequent WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!
** During the attack on Chisha.
--> '''Apple:''' "All right, Hallec. [[BoisterousBruiser You can stop shouting now]]...[[Berserker please...stop...]]
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Not true, he also opens with, \"....... It\'s the last day of the year.\"
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* CorwningMomentOfAwesome - Geddoe's ShutUpHannibal moment to [[spoiler: Luc before the final battle]] basically boils down to "Finished yet, you little whiner?".