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* AcclaimedFlop: The manga seems to be this in America, as it got fairly positive reviews yet allegedly sold very poorly.
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* AwesomeMusic: The opening tune is fantastic, and [[SurprisinglyGentleSong the ending song]] is just gorgeous.
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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The opening tune is fantastic, and [[SurprisinglyGentleSong the ending song]] is just gorgeous.
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* AwesomeMusic: The opening tune is fantastic, and [[SurprisinglyGentleSong the ending song]] is just gorgeous.
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** Although the series as a whole is fine and not pedophilic, there are a few things like Vanilla's PantyShot in the manga that get uncomfortable. They're literally children. Also, especially if one was a kid when they first were introduced to the show but eventually grew up (as everyone does), the fact that the two girls are both 10 years old and their plot-mandated objective is to make boys fall in love with them just becomes bizarre. 10 years old? Really?
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** Although the series as a whole is fine and not pedophilic, there are a few things like Vanilla's PantyShot in the manga that get uncomfortable. They're literally children. Also, especially if one was a kid when they first were introduced to the show but eventually grew up (as everyone does), the fact that the two girls are both 10 years old and their plot-mandated objective is to make boys fall in love with them just becomes bizarre. 10 years old? Really?Really? None of it is sexual, but it's odd that such a plotline had to feature children as the leads.
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** Although the series as a whole is fine and not pedophilic, there are a few things like Vanilla's PantyShot in the manga that get uncomfortable. They're literally children. Also, especially if one was a kid when they first were introduced to the show but eventually grew up (as everyone does), the fact that the two girls are both 10 years old and their plot-mandated objective is to make boys fall in love with them just becomes bizarre. 10 years old? Really?
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Why tf are some of y'all finding 10-year-olds sexy
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* EvilIsSexy: Well, sexi''er'' anyway. [[spoiler: After becoming the Ogre Princess, Vanilla sports an elegant evening gown when transformed into witch mode.]]
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* HoYay: Between Chocolat and Vanilla, expectedly.
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** Despite being a major character, Pierre's past is never explored in any meaningful way.
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** The anime. A lot of fans don't like that it differs so much from the manga.
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** The biggest offender of this is Akira, who was clearly set up to be a relevant character in the beginning and was even promoted as such early on in the manga, just to get sidelined and be little more than a minor character in the end.
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* BaseBreaker: Vanilla after [[spoiler:she becomes the Ogre Princess]], and over whether or not she was EasilyForgiven. And there are fans who just don't think she's as interesting as Chocolat.
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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Vanilla after [[spoiler:she becomes the Ogre Princess]], and over whether or not she was EasilyForgiven. And there are fans who just don't think she's as interesting as Chocolat.
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* BaseBreaker: Vanilla after [[spoiler: she becomes the Ogre Princess.]] And over whether or not she was EasilyForgiven.
** And there are fans who just don't think she's as interesting as Chocolat.
* BrokenBase: The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written and making it incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
** [[spoiler:Should Chocolat or Vanilla have won in the end?]]
** And there are fans who just don't think she's as interesting as Chocolat.
* BrokenBase: The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written and making it incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
** [[spoiler:Should Chocolat or Vanilla have won in the end?]]
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* BaseBreaker: Vanilla after [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she becomes the Ogre Princess.]] And Princess]], and over whether or not she was EasilyForgiven.
**EasilyForgiven. And there are fans who just don't think she's as interesting as Chocolat.
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** The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written and making it incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
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* IdiotPlot: [[spoiler: Vanilla becoming the Ogre Princess.]]
* {{Moe}}: Vanilla has a ton of moe points, which is a big part of why she's so popular with the boys.
* {{Moe}}: Vanilla has a ton of moe points, which is a big part of why she's so popular with the boys.
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* ValuesDissonance: A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside Japan.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside Japan.
** A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside Japan.
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** In order to collect hearts, sometimes the girls have to act helpless and/or incompetent. To some outside Japan this might come across as creepy or downright sexist.
* TheWoobie: Both Chocolat and Vanilla can be this.
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** In order to collect hearts, sometimes the girls have to act helpless and/or incompetent. To some outside Japan Japan, this might come across as creepy or downright sexist.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Vanilla, mainly due to ValuesDissonance.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Of all of Chocolat and Vanilla's classmates, less than a handful get any development or relevance to the story. Most of the time they just act like a HiveMind.
* ValuesDissonance: A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outsideJapan (except in Italy of course).Japan.
* ValuesDissonance: A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside
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** In order to collect hearts, sometimes the girls have to act helpless and/or incompetent. To some outside Japan this might come across as creepy or downright sexist.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler:Vanilla and Saule]]
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* {{Narm}}: The fact that most of the cast is elementary school aged makes most of the morals/messages about love fall into this.
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* {{Narm}}: The fact that most ''insane'' amount of the cast is elementary school aged MostWritersAreAdults makes most of the morals/messages about love fall into this.this a very difficult series to take seriously.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Remember girls, NoGuyWantsAnAmazon! Later chapters got better about this, but ''wow''.
* AwesomeArt: The manga has gorgeous and very detailed art.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Remember Remember, girls, NoGuyWantsAnAmazon! Later chapters got better about this, but ''wow''.
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** Should [[spoiler:Chocolat or Vanilla have won in the end?]]
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This anime is HUGE in Italy. Seriously, just look at how many Italian videos there are on Youtube.
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* PuritySue: Vanilla can come across as this sometimes.
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* AcclaimedFlop: The manga seems to be this in America, as it got fairly positive reviews yet allegedly sold very poorly.
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** Vanilla being played up as the human world's ideal girl. Readers outside Japan might wonder what's the big deal.
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* BrokenBase: The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written, full of UnfortunateImplications, and making it incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
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* BrokenBase: The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written, full of UnfortunateImplications, written and making it incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Boys only like ''one'' type of girl, and NoGuyWantsAnAmazon, ever.
** A chapter in the manga had the AccidentalAesop that "crying a lot will make boys like you!"
*** Hell, in episode 2 we get the horrible lesson that the best way to get boys to like you is to ''intentionally hurt yourself''.
** Vanilla (at least in the early chapters) is a weak, spineless crybaby. She's also played up as the human world's ideal girl.
** A chapter in the manga had the AccidentalAesop that "crying a lot will make boys like you!"
*** Hell, in episode 2 we get the horrible lesson that the best way to get boys to like you is to ''intentionally hurt yourself''.
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* ValuesDissonance: A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside Japan.
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* ValuesDissonance: A lot of fans in the west (where tomboyish girls are seen as more desirable) don't see anything wrong with Chocolat's behavior early in the manga, and think she's treated way too harshly. This may be the reason why it never really took off outside Japan.Japan (except in Italy of course).
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Not an example; besides this way Vanilla has the unfair advantage.
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* FridgeBrilliance: It makes perfect sense for the girls to go to Japan for the MagicalGirlQueenlinessTest - Chocolat's tough and tomboyish personality means that she would have an unfair advantage over Vanilla in any country where NoGuyWantsAnAmazon is not in effect.
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** Should [[spoiler:Chocolat or Vanilla have won in the end?]]
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* BrokenBase: The series' social commentary about love and femininity is seen as either thought-provoking and adding depth to the story or clumsily written, full of UnfortunateImplications, and incomprehensible to non-Japanese audiences.
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* DesignatedHero: Though the protagonists are certainly not as villainous as the Ogres, their habit of harvesting human emotions for energy sounds like an evil plot straight out of SailorMoon, though it doesn't seem to harm them.
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* DesignatedHero: Though the protagonists are certainly not as villainous as the Ogres, their habit of harvesting human emotions for energy sounds like an evil plot straight out of SailorMoon, ''Anime/SailorMoon'', though it doesn't seem to harm them.
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* FridgeBrilliance: It makes perfect sense for the girls to go to Japan for the MagicalGirlQueenlinessTest - Chocolat's tough and tomboyish personality means that she would have an unfair advantage over Vanilla in any country where NoGuyWantsAnAmazon is not in effect.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This anime is HUGE in Italy. Seriously, just look at how many Italian videos there are on Youtube.