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* {{Anvilicious}}: The [[spoiler:[[StraightGay Hawk/Qonja]]]] pairing [[AuthorTract subplot]] in ''Plague of Memory''.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The [[spoiler:[[StraightGay Hawk/Qonja]]]] pairing [[AuthorTract subplot]] in ''Plague of Memory''.Memory'' The message is pretty much "no matter ''how'' admirable a culture may seem overall on the surface, they're not as enlightened as they fancy themselves unless they [[GayAesop have marriage equality]]."
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unfortunate implications need citations.
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book—although he [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization insists that it's actually seduction]]—in order to prevent [[spoiler:a sentient microorganism from killing her]]. Not ''only'' does [[spoiler:she quickly forgive him and end up falling for him anyway]], but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book—although he [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization insists that it's actually seduction]]—in order to prevent [[spoiler:a sentient microorganism from killing her]]. Not ''only'' does [[spoiler:she quickly forgive him and end up falling for him anyway]], but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book—although he [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization insists that it's actually seduction]]—in order to prevent [[spoiler:a sentient microorganism from killing her]]. Not ''only'' does [[spoiler:she quickly forgive him and end up falling for him anyway]], but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
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* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get anti-alien laws passed. By the same means, he also got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do whatever the hell he pleased'' to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including [[ParentalIncest raping them]] after deliberately infecting himself with syphilis, just to see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get anti-alien laws passed. By the same means, he He also got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do endeavored to pass anti-cloning laws solely for his own gain. His intent was to do whatever the hell he pleased'' wanted to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including [[ParentalIncest raping them]] after innocent clones. Veil engages in a series of rapes with as many clones as he can, and deliberately infecting himself infects them with syphilis, syphilis just to so he can see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]the results of the disease on the DesignerBabies he fathers.
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeStockholmSyndrome fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization outs]] for it.
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization outs]] for it.
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove [[RapeStockholmSyndrome fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization outs]] for it.
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It\'s Not Rape If You Enjoyed It to Not If They Enjoyed It Rationalization per Rape Tropes Special Efforts thread
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
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** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' oncommitting]].committing]].
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** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on
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* Anvilicious: {{Anvilicious}}: The [[spoiler:[[StraightGay Hawk/Qonja]]]] pairing [[AuthorTract subplot]] in ''Plague of Memory''.
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* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get the Terran anti-alien laws passed. Doesn't sound that bad? Well, he also deliberately got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do whatever the hell he pleased'' to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including [[ParentalIncest raping them]] after deliberately infecting himself with syphilis, just to see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]
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* Anvilicious: The [[spoiler:[[StraightGay Hawk/Qonja]]]] pairing [[AuthorTract subplot]] in ''Plague of Memory''.
* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to getthe Terran anti-alien laws passed. Doesn't sound that bad? Well, By the same means, he also deliberately got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do whatever the hell he pleased'' to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including [[ParentalIncest raping them]] after deliberately infecting himself with syphilis, just to see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]
* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get
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* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get the Terran anti-alien laws passed. Doesn't sound that bad? Well, he also deliberately got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do whatever the hell he pleased'' to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including [[ParentalIncest raping them them]] after deliberately infecting himself with syphilis, just to see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Joseph Grey Veil deliberately took advantage of Terran xenophobia to get the Terran anti-alien laws passed. Doesn't sound that bad? Well, he also deliberately got cloning outlawed in the name of "preserving" the race...so that if ''he'' broke the rules, he could legally ''do whatever the hell he pleased'' to [[ExpendableClone clones]]. [[spoiler:Including raping them after deliberately infecting himself with syphilis, just to see how it would affect GattacaBabies.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: Well, let's see:
** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
* UnfortunateImplications: Well, let's see:
** [[spoiler:Duncan]] rapes [[spoiler:Cherijo]] in the first book. Not only does she [[RapeIsLove fall for him anyway]]...but he's allowed [[AliensMadeThemDoIt various]] [[KarmaHoudini karmic]] [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt outs]] for it.
** [[spoiler:Ktarka Zamlon Torin]], in between attempts to get revenge on her adopted clan, is [[PsychoLesbian making passes at Cherijo]]. This is apparently nearly as shocking as [[spoiler:the murders she's committed and those she's ''planning'' on committing]].
