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* ToughActToFollow: If it wasn't clear enough yet, complaints that ''Forces of Destiny'' isn't as good as ''The Clone Wars'' and ''Rebels'' are commonplace. In addition, there have also been comparisons to Tartakovsky's ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars Clone Wars]]'', which were also animated shorts.
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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about three minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen. Then again, this is a YouTube series.

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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about three minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen. Then again, this is a YouTube Website/YouTube series.

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* BrokenBase:
** Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably to previous works. While there were many fans excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many others who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].
** Though many welcome Season 2's expanded focus on male characters, there are a few circles who view it as pandering to fans that made GirlShowGhetto complaints and a VerbalBackspace on how the show was stated to be focused on female characters, with another complaint being that Luke and Kylo Ren get figures yet Hera, Ketsu, the Tico sisters, et al. have yet to. Alternatively, you could view the added focus of male characters as akin to how male characters still play major roles in other shows targeted towards girls, such as ''Franchise/{{Barbie}}'', ''WesternAnimation/DCSuperheroGirls'', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', and so forth -- the focus is still on girls, but it doesn't hurt to have boys around.

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* BrokenBase:
** Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably to previous works. While there were many fans excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many others who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].
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BrokenBase: Though many welcome Season 2's expanded focus on male characters, there are a few circles who view it as pandering to fans that made GirlShowGhetto complaints and a VerbalBackspace on how the show was stated to be focused on female characters, with another complaint being that Luke and Kylo Ren get figures yet Hera, Ketsu, the Tico sisters, et al. have yet to. Alternatively, you could view the added focus of male characters as akin to how male characters still play major roles in other shows targeted towards girls, such as ''Franchise/{{Barbie}}'', ''WesternAnimation/DCSuperheroGirls'', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', and so forth -- the focus is still on girls, but it doesn't hurt to have boys around.

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* NightmareFuel: As shown in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Ewoks eat sapient species.

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As shown in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Ewoks eat sapient species.species.
** Giant schools of enormous floating ElectricJellyfish can apparently be casually found in the Cantonican atmosphere. If that wasn't enough, remember that Cantonica is likely a very frequently visited planet due to the popular casinos of Canto Bight. [[FridgeHorror Just how many people have fallen victim to these]]?

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* {{Narm}}: Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more JustForFun/{{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine. Volume 3 seems to correct this.

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Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more JustForFun/{{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine. [[AuthorsSavingThrow Volume 3 seems to correct this.]]



* NightmareFuel: As shown in ''Return of the Jedi'', Ewoks eat sapient species.

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* NightmareFuel: As shown in ''Return of the Jedi'', ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Ewoks eat sapient species.
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** The line "IT'S GONNA RAM US!" from "Monster Misunderstanding" is spoken in the most ''bizarre'' line delivery, that makes it pretty much impossible to take seriously.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Though this is presumably the [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight only time]] they ever interacted, "Accidental Allies" has turned [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Sabine Wren]] and [[Film/RogueOne Jyn Erso]] into quite the popular ship, and as for why, well, [[LesYay see below...]]


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** Sabine and Jyn have a fairly...[[BelligerentSexualTension intense]] conversation in "Accidental Allies", and Jyn's goodbye sounds rather flirty (by [[AloofDarkHairedGirl her standards]], anyway). It doesn't help that Sabine watches her go with a fairly admiring-sound "[[EvenTheGirlsWantHer Huh. Impressive]]"...

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* UglyCute: The nightwatcher worm is disgusting, but its sad little whine when it's begging for food and then grateful little warble when Rey throws it some junk to eat is surprisingly endearing.

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The nightwatcher worm is disgusting, but its sad little whine when it's begging for food and then grateful little warble when Rey throws it some junk to eat is surprisingly endearing.endearing.
** The adult sando aqua monster is quite terrifying, but the baby sando seen in "Monster Misunderstanding" is about as adorable as any other water salamander. Its little cry when it's reunited with its mother is also endearing
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** There have been complaints about how Padmé never appears without Ahsoka, and doesn't get a chance to shine. "Monster Misunderstanding" finally breaks this trend, as it seemingly takes place in a time before she met Ahsoka.
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** A more minor case, but Sabine's design in season 1 drew some criticism for making the AmbiguouslyBrown Sabine [[ButNotTooBlack even paler than]] Padmé. Further designs, especially her Rebels season 3 design, corrected this.

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* BrokenBase: Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably to previous works. While there were many fans excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many others who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].

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Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably to previous works. While there were many fans excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many others who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].
** Though many welcome Season 2's expanded focus on male characters, there are a few circles who view it as pandering to fans that made GirlShowGhetto complaints and a VerbalBackspace on how the show was stated to be focused on female characters, with another complaint being that Luke and Kylo Ren get figures yet Hera, Ketsu, the Tico sisters, et al. have yet to. Alternatively, you could view the added focus of male characters as akin to how male characters still play major roles in other shows targeted towards girls, such as ''Franchise/{{Barbie}}'', ''WesternAnimation/DCSuperheroGirls'', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', and so forth -- the focus is still on girls, but it doesn't hurt to have boys around.



* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about 3 minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen. Then again, this is a YouTube series.

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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about 3 three minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen. Then again, this is a YouTube series.
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* {{Narm}}: Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more {{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine. Volume 3 seems to correct this.

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* {{Narm}}: Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine. Volume 3 seems to correct this.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Season 2 is considered a major improvement over the first, with the animation looking crisper and more like a comic book than cheap Flash animation, heavier focus on both male and female characters rather than just females (thus breaking out of the GirlShowGhetto complaints), and the episodes feeling more like fun little adventures rather than [[((Anvilicious}} heavy-handed moral lessons]].

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* GrowingTheBeard: Season 2 is considered a major improvement over the first, with the animation looking crisper and more like a comic book than cheap Flash animation, heavier focus on both male and female characters rather than just females (thus breaking out of the GirlShowGhetto complaints), and the episodes feeling more like fun little adventures rather than [[((Anvilicious}} [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed moral lessons]].
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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]] (and voiced by Mark Hamill again, no less), with no female characters present (since it takes place on Dagobah during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and it's just him, Yoda and Artoo present). This means that while the girls are still the primary stars of the show, the boys can still be heroes too.

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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], criticism for apparently pandering [[GirlShowGhetto exclusively to little girls]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]] (and voiced by Mark Hamill again, no less), with no female characters present (since it takes place on Dagobah during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and it's just him, Yoda and Artoo present). This means that while the girls are still the primary stars of the show, the boys can still be heroes too.



* FandomSpecificPlot: It's been popular to discuss & create fanart of female characters in the ''Star Wars'' universe that aren't a part of the show's roster (or at least not yet), such as an [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels adult Numa, adult Ahsoka]], Mon Mothma, [[VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017 Iden]], [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Barriss, Steela, Latts, Ventress, Sugi]], other female Jedi, and so forth.

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* FandomSpecificPlot: It's been popular to discuss & create fanart of female characters in the ''Star Wars'' universe that aren't a part of the show's roster (or at least not yet), such as an [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels adult Numa, adult Ahsoka]], Mon Mothma, [[VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017 Iden]], [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Barriss, Steela, Latts, Ventress, Sugi]], other female Jedi, and so forth. The fact that the show has expanded to male characters as of Season 2 allows for even more story potential, with many hoping for an episode with Kylo Ren.

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** Anakin's appearance in the third wave of episodes corrects his frequently-mocked character design in the first and second waves.

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** Anakin's appearance in the third wave of episodes Season 2 corrects his frequently-mocked character design in the first and second waves.


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* GrowingTheBeard: Season 2 is considered a major improvement over the first, with the animation looking crisper and more like a comic book than cheap Flash animation, heavier focus on both male and female characters rather than just females (thus breaking out of the GirlShowGhetto complaints), and the episodes feeling more like fun little adventures rather than [[((Anvilicious}} heavy-handed moral lessons]].
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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]], with no female characters present (since it takes place on Dagobah during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and it's just him, Yoda and Artoo present). This means that while the girls are still the primary stars of the show, the boys can still be heroes too.

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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]], protagonist]] (and voiced by Mark Hamill again, no less), with no female characters present (since it takes place on Dagobah during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and it's just him, Yoda and Artoo present). This means that while the girls are still the primary stars of the show, the boys can still be heroes too.
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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]], with no female characters present.

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** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]], with no female characters present.present (since it takes place on Dagobah during ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and it's just him, Yoda and Artoo present). This means that while the girls are still the primary stars of the show, the boys can still be heroes too.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Anakin's appearance in the third wave of episodes corrects his frequently-mocked character design in the first and second waves.

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Anakin's appearance in the third wave of episodes corrects his frequently-mocked character design in the first and second waves.waves.
** After this series faced [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement accusations of trying to push a feminist agenda in some circles]], the short "The Path Ahead" features [[ADayInTheLimelight Luke Skywalker as the main protagonist]], with no female characters present.


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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Hera having friendly banter with Han and Leia after the Battle of Endor becomes this when you realize [[spoiler:this takes place years after Kanan's death, which means she has recovered since]].
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* NightmareFuel: Turns out the Ewoks eat sapient species.

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* NightmareFuel: Turns out As shown in ''Return of the Jedi'', Ewoks eat sapient species.
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* {{Narm}}: Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more {{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine.

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* {{Narm}}: Anakin looks more like a girl, which seems to be caused by his undetailed hair and pronounced lips. He also doesn't have his scar. [[https://i.redd.it/haxt6o55l28z.jpg Someone on Instagram created an improved version.]] Becomes more {{egregious}} when Finn and Han are depicted as looking fine. Volume 3 seems to correct this.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to ''The Clone Wars'' and ''Rebels'') for any compelling situations.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to ''The Clone Wars'' and ''Rebels'') for any compelling situations. Though this is likely since the show is intended towards a younger audience than the latter two shows.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Anakin's appearance in the third wave of episodes corrects his frequently-mocked character design in the first and second waves.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to TCW and Rebels) for any compelling situations.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to TCW ''The Clone Wars'' and Rebels) ''Rebels'') for any compelling situations.situations.
* ToughActToFollow: If it wasn't clear enough yet, complaints that ''Forces of Destiny'' isn't as good as ''The Clone Wars'' and ''Rebels'' are commonplace. In addition, there have also been comparisons to Tartakovsky's ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars Clone Wars]]'', which were also animated shorts.
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* BrokenBase: Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably with a previous work. While there are fans who are excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].

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* BrokenBase: Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably with a to previous work. works. While there are were many fans who are excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many others who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].



** Err... well, in a case of AdvertisedExtra, there have been complaints that Hera hasn't received enough advertising spotlight. Even Luke, Kylo Ren, and Chewbacca have gotten a doll before she has. Similarly, there's been complaints that it doesn't look good on Hera and Padmé when they only appear as side characters to the other female characters like [[EnsembleDarkhorse Sabine and Ahsoka]].

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** Err... well, in In a case of AdvertisedExtra, there have been complaints that Hera hasn't received enough advertising spotlight. Even Luke, Kylo Ren, and Chewbacca have gotten a doll before she has. Similarly, there's been complaints that it doesn't look good on Hera and Padmé when they only appear as side characters to the other female characters like [[EnsembleDarkhorse Sabine and Ahsoka]].



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2-D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to TCW and Rebels) for any compelling situations.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2-D 2D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to TCW and Rebels) for any compelling situations.
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* BrokenBase: Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably with a previous work. While there are fans who are excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many who utterly despise it.

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* BrokenBase: Like ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' before it, ''Forces of Destiny'' has gotten itself a mixed reception with it being compared unfavorably with a previous work. While there are fans who are excited for it, especially with the focus on the female characters, there are many who utterly despise it. Worth noting that many who despise it are [[PeripheryHatedom outside the intended demographic]].
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* GirlShowGhetto: There's a VocalMinority who hate it solely because of the all-female cast, labeling it as PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad and another sign of Kathy Kennedy ruining the franchise by making it too feminist. [[FandomBerserkButton The female fanbase, along with a whole lot of other fans, did not take well to this accusation.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A 2-D animated show focusing on ''Star Wars'' characters across the timeline, quite a few meeting each other, the vast majority of which are voiced by their original actors/voice actors? Awesome! Except that most of the episodes contain largely simplistic plotlines, the 2D animation looks rather cheap and is thus controversial among the fanbase, and the show tends to be too LighterAndSofter (compared to TCW and Rebels) for any compelling situations.

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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about 3 minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen.

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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' length (about 3 minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen. Then again, this is a YouTube series.



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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' short length (about 3 minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen.

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* ItsShortSoItSucks: The shorts' short length (about 3 minutes) doesn't give much time for things to happen.
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** Sabine and Ketsu's exchange of eyebrow lifts at the end of "Crash Course".
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Yay! Ketsu joined the Rebellion! The orphan is saved! But mission failed; looks like some citizens are going to starve tonight without those food crates. Unless Hera magnetized the crates before they left, but since that wasn't shown, there's no way to tell.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Yay! Ketsu joined the Rebellion! The orphan is saved! But mission failed; looks like some citizens are going to starve tonight without those food crates. Unless Hera magnetized the crates before they left, but since that wasn't shown, there's no way to tell. On the other hand, they may have decided to steal food elsewhere.

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