History YMMV / SnowWhiteATaleofTerror

28th Oct '17 6:41:46 AM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: There's a scene just before the poisoned apple where Peter returns to the Hoffman house to find Claudia alone. She gives him a passionate kiss, but then sends him away saying "what a wonderful husband you're going to make Lilli". It's already been established that the servants are gone, so this scene serves no real purpose and is truly random.
* FridgeBrilliance: Why does Lilli take fruit from an ObviouslyEvil old woman? Because after living with the miners and discovering that Will was not just a savage, she had learned that appearances can be deceiving. So she must have thought that the creepy old woman was friendly.


Added DiffLines:

* JerkassWoobie: Lilli mainly in the early part of the movie. She's bratty and completely dismissive to Claudia's attempts to be friends, but remember that this is a girl who has never known her mother and also watched her nanny die before her. She becomes a full Woobie once Claudia starts trying to kill her.


Added DiffLines:

** When the story begins to play out like the classic fairy tale. It's Gustav - a character seemingly benevolent - who draws his knife on Lilli. Notably even Lilli seems to view him as a friend, and it's quite the WHAMShot when he lunges at her.


Added DiffLines:

* SpecialEffectFailure: It's rather obvious CGI in some places when [[spoiler: Claudia is burning to death in her room]].


Added DiffLines:

** The death of Lars just after he and Lilli had started becoming friends. She desperately tries to rescue him from the tree, but Will has to pull her away before another tree crushes them too.
27th Oct '17 2:23:03 PM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Lili is seen as a bratty little thing for not accepting Claudia's friendship at the start of the story. While it's very bratty at the beginning (throwing oil in her face for instance), don't forget that Lili saw Nannau being killed by something when she looked into Claudia's mirror. As it turns out, she had valid reasons to be suspicious of Claudia.

to:

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
**
Lili is seen as a bratty little thing for not accepting Claudia's friendship at the start of the story. While it's very bratty at the beginning (throwing oil in her face for instance), don't forget that Lili saw Nannau being killed by something when she looked into Claudia's mirror. As it turns out, she had valid reasons to be suspicious of Claudia.Claudia.
** Frederich with regards to if he loved Claudia when he married her. Claudia seems to think she was just there to produce an heir, and desperately wants him to love her. But he does seem kind to her and could potentially have loved her too; it's just that the first Liliana's death was on his mind.


Added DiffLines:

* HarsherInHindsight: Brian Glover gets crushed to death by a falling tree. He would die in real life before the film was even released.
17th Oct '17 6:26:22 PM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Lilli have it coming? Was Claudia really that evil?
* AngstWhatAngst: Lilli seems a little too calm for someone who was nearly murdered and has to live out in the forest.
* DesignatedHero: Lilli for some. Then it's subverted when Claudia keeps trying to kill her.
* DesignatedVillain: Claudia has tried hard to build a loving relationship with her stepdaughter, only to be rebuffed, and it's clear that she's been corrupted by the mirror...but like [[DesignatedHero Lilli]], this is subverted as she keeps trying to kill her stepdaughter.
* MagnificentBastard: Claudia.
* NightmareFuel: The first two attempts to kill Lilli that Claudia tries. The poisoned apple almost seems tame in comparison.

to:

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Lilli have it coming? Was Claudia really Lili is seen as a bratty little thing for not accepting Claudia's friendship at the start of the story. While it's very bratty at the beginning (throwing oil in her face for instance), don't forget that evil?
Lili saw Nannau being killed by something when she looked into Claudia's mirror. As it turns out, she had valid reasons to be suspicious of Claudia.
* AngstWhatAngst: Lilli seems a little too calm for someone who was nearly murdered and has to live out in the forest.
forest. She also seems to take [[spoiler: Peter's death]] quite easily.
* DesignatedHero: Lilli SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** Some context - when Lili first joins the miners, they mockingly call her a princess. When she leaves them to rejoin her family, one of them says "good journey, little princess."
** A FreezeFrameBonus. When Lili attempts to make amends with Claudia, she's wearing the dress that her stepmother wanted her to wear at the ball.
* IntendedAudienceReaction: It's entirely possible that we're not supposed to root
for some. Then it's subverted Lili at the start - and the story very much frames Claudia as the sympathetic figure. Thus it makes it all the more effective when Claudia keeps trying to kill her.
* DesignatedVillain: Claudia has tried hard to build a loving relationship with
pulls her stepdaughter, only to be rebuffed, FaceHeelTurn, and it's clear viewers are left reeling that she's been corrupted by the mirror...but like [[DesignatedHero Lilli]], this simple brattiness is subverted as she keeps trying hardly reason to kill her justify murdering your stepdaughter.
* MagnificentBastard: Claudia.
Claudia, as her attempts to kill Lili are effective enough to at least cause the deaths of a couple of the miners.
* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
**
The first two attempts to kill Lilli that Claudia tries. The poisoned apple almost seems tame in comparison.



* TearJerker: It's really hard to not feel sorry for Claudia after she loses her baby.

to:

* TearJerker: SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** This DarkerAndEdgier take on fairy tales was pretty new at the time, as the Disney Renaissance was in full swing, and the child friendly versions were what audiences were most familiar with. Now with {{Grimmification}} being everywhere - ironically popularized by another Snow White film (''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'') - it can be lost on newer fans just how daring this movie was.
** Giving the evil queen a tragic backstory? Again, hugely uncommon in mainstream media in the 90s. Nowadays with the likes of ''{{Theatre/Wicked}}'', ''{{Film/Maleficent}}'', ''Series/OnceUponATime'' etc turning a WickedWitch into a TragicMonster, the trope that the villain was once a genuinely good person isn't as shocking as it was.
** Finally it's a surprise ending that Lili ends up with Will, the TroubledButCute exiled miner - instead of Peter, the PrinceCharming analogue. After hundreds of revisionist fairy tales, about the only thing not surprising here is that Peter isn't a PrinceCharmless.
* TearJerker:
**
It's really hard to not feel sorry for Claudia after she loses her baby.baby. Lili's reaction is notable too. She had been tense with Claudia, and seems to have gone to the ball deliberately to show her up, but she is horrified when she hears that Claudia won't be able to have another child. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone This prompts her to try and mend the rift between them]].
** And after Claudia loses the baby, she looks in her mirror and takes a look at her face - realising she is now much older. She tries to rub some lotion on her skin but then screams and throws it at the glass, before collapsing sobbing.
** When Lili returns to the castle, her beloved dog Odo has been corrupted by Claudia's magic and attacks them.
23rd Jan '17 7:47:25 PM creader
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Naturally, being an adaptation of Snow White, many parents would assume this is alright to show to children. They ignore the R rating and the fact that it's got "A Tale of Terror" as it's subtitle

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Naturally, being an adaptation of Snow White, many parents would assume this is alright to show to children. They ignore the R rating and the fact that it's got "A Tale of Terror" as it's subtitle
subtitle.
26th Jul '16 9:24:30 AM rememberthehood1941
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* DesignatedVillain: Claudia has tried hard to build a loving relationship with her stepdaughter, only to be rebuffed, and it's clear that she's been corrupted by the mirror...but like [[DesignatedHero Lilli]], this is subverted as she keeps trying to kill her stepdaughter.
23rd Jul '16 5:39:38 PM rememberthehood1941
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* TearJerker: It's really hard to not feel sorry for Claudia after she loses her baby.
7th Oct '13 1:50:15 PM UltimateParagon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


----



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Naturally, being an adaptation of Snow White, many parents would assume this is alright to show to children. They ignore the R rating and the fact that it's got "A Tale of Terror" as it's subtitle

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Naturally, being an adaptation of Snow White, many parents would assume this is alright to show to children. They ignore the R rating and the fact that it's got "A Tale of Terror" as it's subtitlesubtitle

----
20th Aug '13 7:43:42 PM Lammy4ever7
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The sight of [[spoiler: the hand of Claudia's zombified baby reaching out from his blanket.]] That ENTIRE SCENE is frightening.
29th Mar '13 10:57:52 AM Austin
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FanDisservice: The Claudia/Frederich sex scene. Fully clothed but still icky to watch.
16th Jan '13 11:10:40 AM RJSavoy
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AlasPoorVillain: Claudia [[spoiler: dies because she tried to rescue her baby from the fire in the room]].
This list shows the last 10 events of 14. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.SnowWhiteATaleofTerror