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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the English text, Knives Chau hurls her knives at Ramona while yelling "Chau down!" Since the original pun is LostInTranslation, the Brazilian adaptation opts to poke fun at how Knives' surname has a similar spelling to the Portuguese word for "goodbye".
--> '''Knives:''' Tchau da Chau! (Goodbye from Chau!)
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** The Gilded Palace of Flying Burritos. Subverted in that Ramona asks about Scott's previous job in the first volume, and he says it's a long story so she responds with "we'll save it for another volume".
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** On the other hand, it's difficult to actually push this for Gideon; He's depicted as a clingy psycho-stalker who keeps the women he can't have sedated and in stasis. Todd is also a cheater several times over, and is completely unapologetic about the damage this does to Envy. Patel also didn't even have that much of a relationship with her, as pointed out by Ramona. Really, the only one we get to see being left by Ramona is Gideon, and his reaction is utterly pathetic and his intentions are entirely controlling; He isn't half-anything, as his declaration to Scott that they can 'rule Ramona's love-life' lays bare.
** Done on purpose for [[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld the film adaptation]], where if it was about Stephen and his band trying to make it big but Scott accidentally screws up by being strung on Ramona and they only get successful without him, just like his own ex-girlfriend (though ironically, Scott has to bitch-slap [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan sense into Stephen]] when his nerves get to him, even saying that if he can put his problems aside for the music, so can Stephen.)
** Done on purpose for [[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld the film adaptation]], where if it was about Stephen and his band trying to make it big but Scott accidentally screws up by being strung on Ramona and they only get successful without him, just like his own ex-girlfriend (though ironically, Scott has to bitch-slap [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan sense into Stephen]] when his nerves get to him, even saying that if he can put his problems aside for the music, so can Stephen.)
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Misuse. This trope is not "Homosexuals exist".
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* HoYay: Courtesy of Wallace Wells.
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** [[spoiler:Kim and Knives in Volume 4. Granted, they're drunk.]]
** There's also Knives' fangirlism bordering-on-a-crush of Envy Adams.
** There's also Knives' fangirlism bordering-on-a-crush of Envy Adams.
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** [[spoiler:Kim and Knives in Volume 4. Granted, they're drunk.]]
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** And, of course, there's Ramona and Roxy. [[FriendlyEnemy Even AFTER they break up in the comics.]]
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*** I don’t think it’s just the fact that Scott is in a position of fame that would get scorn, it’s the fact he is a grown man with a minor. The defense people usually have of the woman being “mature for her age” can’t even be used here since Knives is incredibly naive and immature, which is justified given she is 17.
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- I don’t think it’s just the fact that Scott is in a position of fame that would get scorn, it’s the fact he is a grown man with a minor. The defense people usually have of the woman being “mature for her age” can’t even be used here since Knives is incredibly naive and immature, which is justified given she is 17.
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** The classic description "[[BerserkButton TWILIGHT]] FOR BOYS".
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** The classic description "[[BerserkButton TWILIGHT]] "TWILIGHT FOR BOYS".
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** Wallace has quite the fan following and even a couple of Facebook clubs.
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** Kim Pine is also pretty popular, even having her own one-shot comic strip, ''[[http://scottpilgrim.com/inside.php?id=previews The Wonderful World of Kim Pine]]''.
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** Quite a few people prefer Knives over Ramona (doesn't help that she becomes more of an IronWoobie in the movie).
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** Scott and Wallace's "hole in concrete" apartment fosters much confusion in viewers/readers. Also, Honest Ed's was a real place (closed in 2016).
** Think it's strange that a hardcore vegan would be so willing to secretly eat meat, magical powers nonwithstanding? Google "recovering vegans" and you'll find many stories involving vegans who realized they lacked the resolve to sustain their diet, and to avoid backlash from the vegan community, started eating meat in secret. Whether or not O'Malley was aware of this though, is up for debate; Todd Ingram's hypocrisy fits a little too well into his personality for it to be a coincidence.
** Scott and Wallace's "hole in concrete" apartment fosters much confusion in viewers/readers. Also, Honest Ed's was a real place (closed in 2016).
** Think it's strange that a hardcore vegan would be so willing to secretly eat meat, magical powers nonwithstanding? Google "recovering vegans" and you'll find many stories involving vegans who realized they lacked the resolve to sustain their diet, and to avoid backlash from the vegan community, started eating meat in secret. Whether or not O'Malley was aware of this though, is up for debate; Todd Ingram's hypocrisy fits a little too well into his personality for it to be a coincidence.
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** Done on purpose for [[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld the film adaptation]], where if it was about Stephen and his band trying to make it big but Scott accidentally screws up by being strung on Ramona and they only get successful without him, just like his own ex-girlfriend (though ironically, Scott has to [[ArmorPiercingSlap bitch-slap]] [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan sense into Stephen]] when his nerves get to him, even saying that if he can put his problems aside for the music, so can Stephen.)
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** Done on purpose for [[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld the film adaptation]], where if it was about Stephen and his band trying to make it big but Scott accidentally screws up by being strung on Ramona and they only get successful without him, just like his own ex-girlfriend (though ironically, Scott has to [[ArmorPiercingSlap bitch-slap]] bitch-slap [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan sense into Stephen]] when his nerves get to him, even saying that if he can put his problems aside for the music, so can Stephen.)
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** You'd be hard pressed to not find fanart of Knives with a [[ScarfOfAsskicking scarf]], highlights, and {{sai|Guy}}.
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** Knives' relationship with Sex Bob-Omb as a whole has been getting more and more uncomfortable as the years have passed by. The whole situation reeks of of a weird grooming dynamic where Knives is the ideal groupie and she's getting passed around between band mates, with her friends and parents being none the wiser. Over the course of the series, she gets with Scott, Kim and Young Neil all the while remaining a star struck, naive, and worst of all vulnerable 17 year old.
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** Knives' relationship with Sex Bob-Omb as a whole has been getting more and more uncomfortable as the years have passed by. The whole problem being that the situation reeks of of a weird grooming dynamic where Knives is the ideal groupie and she's who is actively getting passed around between band mates, mates who are all in their 20s, with her friends and parents being none the wiser. Over the course of the series, she gets with Scott, Kim and Young Neil Neil, all the while remaining a star struck, naive, and worst of all vulnerable 17 year old.
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* ValuesDissonance: Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16. On one hand, the scene where he solicits sex from her in the final volume is him at his very lowest and portrays him negatively for it (see MemeticMolester above). On the other hand, it's also generally played for comedy which likely wouldn't fly if written now.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16. On one hand, the scene where he solicits sex from her in the final volume is him at his very lowest and portrays him negatively for it (see MemeticMolester above). On the other hand, it's also generally played for comedy which likely wouldn't fly if writtennow.now.
** Knives' relationship with Sex Bob-Omb as a whole has been getting more and more uncomfortable as the years have passed by. The whole situation reeks of of a weird grooming dynamic where Knives is the ideal groupie and she's getting passed around between band mates, with her friends and parents being none the wiser. Over the course of the series, she gets with Scott, Kim and Young Neil all the while remaining a star struck, naive, and worst of all vulnerable 17 year old.
** Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16. On one hand, the scene where he solicits sex from her in the final volume is him at his very lowest and portrays him negatively for it (see MemeticMolester above). On the other hand, it's also generally played for comedy which likely wouldn't fly if written
** Knives' relationship with Sex Bob-Omb as a whole has been getting more and more uncomfortable as the years have passed by. The whole situation reeks of of a weird grooming dynamic where Knives is the ideal groupie and she's getting passed around between band mates, with her friends and parents being none the wiser. Over the course of the series, she gets with Scott, Kim and Young Neil all the while remaining a star struck, naive, and worst of all vulnerable 17 year old.
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** Taken UpToEleven when we see how Gideon weaponized it.
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** Taken UpToEleven up to eleven when we see how Gideon weaponized it.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The series is firmly defined by being in the "Aughts", with its first book coming out in 2004 and ending in 2010. Best seen with how the cast use flip phones then smart phones and a few real life Canadian business, like Honest Ed's, were still standing at that point when they would be gone in the later part of the decade.
** However, the bigger element is seen retroactively examined in the context of the wider socioeconomic culture. Scott was written to be portrayed as this sort of hapless loser for not having much of a career or life despite going to college and his friends are presented as this to a lesser degree, something that would have been pretty understandable in the early 2000s. However, fast forward a decade later after the release of the final book on 2010, Scott's situation is much more widespread and noted regarding young adults having difficulty establishing a "proper" life, especially given the audience would be approaching Scott's age in a few years. The series was near completion when the Great Recession hit and cause economic concerns and instability for many up and coming young adults, along with the oversaturation of white collar jobs and has led to a greater sense of economic anxiety among adults who would be Scott's age at the time. This makes Scott and his friends more relatable and sympathetic than perhaps O'Malley intended at the time.
** Other aspects would be that certain elements of the story would play different if taken place just a few years later because of culture shifts. The rise of Internet musicians would mean Sex Bob-Omb could earn fame there while Gideon would've been outed sooner for his manipulative tendencies. Scott's attitude on him playing games would be viewed differently if he was a streamer and so on.
** However, the bigger element is seen retroactively examined in the context of the wider socioeconomic culture. Scott was written to be portrayed as this sort of hapless loser for not having much of a career or life despite going to college and his friends are presented as this to a lesser degree, something that would have been pretty understandable in the early 2000s. However, fast forward a decade later after the release of the final book on 2010, Scott's situation is much more widespread and noted regarding young adults having difficulty establishing a "proper" life, especially given the audience would be approaching Scott's age in a few years. The series was near completion when the Great Recession hit and cause economic concerns and instability for many up and coming young adults, along with the oversaturation of white collar jobs and has led to a greater sense of economic anxiety among adults who would be Scott's age at the time. This makes Scott and his friends more relatable and sympathetic than perhaps O'Malley intended at the time.
** Other aspects would be that certain elements of the story would play different if taken place just a few years later because of culture shifts. The rise of Internet musicians would mean Sex Bob-Omb could earn fame there while Gideon would've been outed sooner for his manipulative tendencies. Scott's attitude on him playing games would be viewed differently if he was a streamer and so on.
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* FashionVictimVillain: All the Evil exes are dressed like normal(ish) people, except for Ken Katyanagi, who is wearing a ''headband and Japanese rising sun undershirt''. He somehow manages to look out of place at a Mexican Day of the Dead-themed party.
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* ValuesDissonance: Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16.
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* ValuesDissonance: Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16. On one hand, the scene where he solicits sex from her in the final volume is him at his very lowest and portrays him negatively for it (see MemeticMolester above). On the other hand, it's also generally played for comedy which likely wouldn't fly if written now.
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** The vegan shepherd's pie recipe. Comes out of nowhere and doesn't really have anything to do with the plot other than what the main characters are eating for that scene's meal.
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** The vegan shepherd's pie recipe. Comes out of nowhere and doesn't really have anything to do with the plot other than what the main characters are eating for that scene's meal. And there aren't any other scenes similar to it for the rest of the story.
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** The vegan shepherd's pie recipe. Comes out of nowhere and doesn't really have anything to do with the plot other than what the main characters are eating for that scene's meal.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Lucas Lee. Scott asks Lucas to show off his skateboarding skills. Lucas wipes out and hits the curb. Scott wins by default. Scott even comments afterwards, "That was the worst fight ever!" - though it's mainly because he couldn't pick up the Mithril Skateboard Lucas leaves behind.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Lucas Lee. Scott asks Lucas to show off his skateboarding skills. Lucas wipes out and hits the curb. Scott wins by default. Scott even comments afterwards, "That was the worst fight ever!" - though (though it's mainly because he couldn't pick up the Mithril Skateboard Lucas leaves behind.behind).
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** In the fourth volume, Lisa mentions living off of credit cards and derides herself for doing so. Not long after the volume was released, the real-life credit crunch of '08 hit.
** In the fourth volume, Lisa mentions living off of credit cards and derides herself for doing so. Not long after the volume was released, the real-life credit crunch of '08 hit.
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** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Ed's, which ends up blown by Todd's psychic powers. Honest Ed's was an actual real-life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016 (a decade after the volume came out).
** In the fourth volume, Lisa mentions living off of credit cards and derides herself for doing so. Not long after the volume wasreleased, released in 2007, the real-life credit crunch of '08 2008 hit.
** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Ed's, which ends up blown by Todd's psychic powers. Honest Ed's was an actual real-life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016 (a decade after the volume came out).
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** After reading Volume 6 and finding out at the end that [[spoiler:Stephen Stills is gay]], going back and reading Volume 5 has a moment like this when Young Neil [[spoiler:refers to Stephen Stills as "Captain Homo"]], and it hits you that there was a whole other layer to Neil's face-punchingly dickish comment.
** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Eds which ends up blown by Todd's psyhic powers. Honest Eds was indeed a real life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016.
** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Eds which ends up blown by Todd's psyhic powers. Honest Eds was indeed a real life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016.
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** After reading Volume 6 and finding out at the end that [[spoiler:Stephen Stills is gay]], going back and reading Volume 5 has a moment like this when Young Neil [[spoiler:refers to Stephen Stills as "Captain Homo"]], and it hits you that there was a whole other layer to Neil's face-punchingly dickish comment.
** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Eds which ends up blown by Todd's psyhic powers. Honest Eds was indeed a real life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016.comment.
** In Volume 3, Envy suggests Scott and Todd do a competition fight through Honest Eds which ends up blown by Todd's psyhic powers. Honest Eds was indeed a real life business and tourist spot in Canada, but eventually went bankrupt and torn down in 2016.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the first volume came out in 2004, ''Scott Pilgrim'' was praised for being inventive and very different from what people normally expect of comic book stories. At the end of a very long time when most comic books in North America were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers that referenced video games and other pop culture media associated with them at the time, being credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. Nowadays however, it can be hard to see the comic as unique, due to the rise of reference humor, webcomics and fan works that focus on a much larger variety of topics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the first volume came out in 2004, ''Scott Pilgrim'' was praised for being inventive and very different from what people normally expect of comic book stories. At the end of a very long time when most comic books in North America were about superheroes, superheroes and related genres, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers that referenced video games and other pop culture media associated with them at the time, being credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. Nowadays however, it can be hard to see the comic as unique, due to the rise of reference humor, webcomics and fan works that focus on a much larger variety of topics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the first volume came out in 2004, the comic was praised for being inventive and very different from what people normally expect of ComicBook stories. At the end of a very long time when most comic books in North America were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers that referenced video games and other pop culture media associated with them at the time, being credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. Nowadays however, it can be hard to see the comic as unique, due to the rise of reference humor, webcomics and fan works that focus on a much larger variety of topics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the first volume came out in 2004, the comic ''Scott Pilgrim'' was praised for being inventive and very different from what people normally expect of ComicBook comic book stories. At the end of a very long time when most comic books in North America were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers that referenced video games and other pop culture media associated with them at the time, being credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. Nowadays however, it can be hard to see the comic as unique, due to the rise of reference humor, webcomics and fan works that focus on a much larger variety of topics.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Scott Pilgrim originally came out in 2004 it was praised for being inventive and so very different from what people normally expected of ComicBook stories. At a time when most comics were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers, that referenced video games and other genuinely relatable pop culture. ''Scott Pilgrim'' was credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. But today it is hard to see what is unique about it with a rise in reference humor and webcomics that focus on relationships.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When Scott Pilgrim originally the first volume came out in 2004 it 2004, the comic was praised for being inventive and so very different from what people normally expected expect of ComicBook stories. At the end of a very long time when most comics comic books in North America were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers, teenagers that referenced video games and other genuinely relatable pop culture. ''Scott Pilgrim'' was culture media associated with them at the time, being credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. But today Nowadays however, it is can be hard to see what is unique about it with a the comic as unique, due to the rise in of reference humor and humor, webcomics and fan works that focus on relationships.a much larger variety of topics.
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** You'd be hard pressed to not find fanart of Knives with a [[ScarfOfAsskicking scarf]], [[MulticoloredHair highlights]], and {{sai|Guy}}.
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** You'd be hard pressed to not find fanart of Knives with a [[ScarfOfAsskicking scarf]], [[MulticoloredHair highlights]], highlights, and {{sai|Guy}}.
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But Not Too Bi is when a character is explicitly stated to be Bi, but is only shown with characters of the opposite gender. Basically them being bisexual is an Informed Attribute. However this isn't the case with Ramona. She essentially alleges that she had a bi-curious phase, which doesn't explicitly state she is and can be read as her experimenting more or less.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As noted under HypeBacklash, when Scott Pilgrim originally came out in 2004 it was praised for being inventive and so very different from what people normally expected of ComicBook stories. At a time when most comics were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers, that referenced video games and other genuinely relatable pop culture. ''Scott Pilgrim'' was credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. But today it is hard to see what is unique about it with a rise in reference humor and webcomics that focus on relationships.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As noted under HypeBacklash, when When Scott Pilgrim originally came out in 2004 it was praised for being inventive and so very different from what people normally expected of ComicBook stories. At a time when most comics were about superheroes, audiences loved a comic book about romance and teenagers, that referenced video games and other genuinely relatable pop culture. ''Scott Pilgrim'' was credited with making it possible for comics to have other genres without being fringe. But today it is hard to see what is unique about it with a rise in reference humor and webcomics that focus on relationships.
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* ValuesDissonance:
** Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16.
** The idea of Ramona possibly being bisexual is played for laughs and then brushed off entirely, with Roxie being forgotten about immediately after she's dealt with. This sort of ButNotTooBi writing was considered funny back then, but with sexual orientations receiving more attention over a decade later, some may see it as kind of cringeworthy nowadays.
** Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16.
** The idea of Ramona possibly being bisexual is played for laughs and then brushed off entirely, with Roxie being forgotten about immediately after she's dealt with. This sort of ButNotTooBi writing was considered funny back then, but with sexual orientations receiving more attention over a decade later, some may see it as kind of cringeworthy nowadays.
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**ValuesDissonance: Scott having a romantic history with the 17-year-old Knives and Kim (who's the same age as Scott) having an implied RelationshipUpgrade with her are both treated fairly casually throughout the comic, with the sketchier elements of it PlayedForLaughs, but in a post-[=#MeToo=] era, the idea of a 24-year-old in even a minor position of fame and power dating a minor and, in Scott's case, soliciting sex from her would be viewed with much more serious levels of scorn. As for Knives, while Scott does get some criticism for dating a 17-year-old, he doesn't face legal trouble for it since the age of consent in Canada is 16.
** The idea of Ramona possibly being bisexual is played for laughs and then brushed off entirely, with Roxie being forgotten about immediately after she's dealt with. This sort of ButNotTooBi writing was considered funny back then, but with sexual orientations receiving more attention over a decade later, some may see it as kind of cringeworthy nowadays.16.
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** The idea of Ramona possibly being bisexual is played for laughs and then brushed off entirely, with Roxie being forgotten about immediately after she's dealt with. This sort of ButNotTooBi writing was considered funny back then, but with sexual orientations receiving more attention over a decade later, some may see it as kind of cringeworthy nowadays.
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** Many people have noticed [[https://i.imgur.com/BZezFhL.png Scott Pilgrim's testicles]]. Made funnier because, as the [[http://www.majorspoilers.com Major Spoilers]] review of Volume 6 pointed out, "Scott Pilgrim Grows a Pair" would be a pretty fitting alternate title. It's actually possible that this innuendo was not accidental at all...
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** Many people have noticed that in [[https://i.imgur.com/BZezFhL.png Scott Pilgrim's testicles]].the cover for Volume 6]], the Power of Love's handle tip is placed in a way that makes it look like Scott's testicles. Made funnier because, as the [[http://www.majorspoilers.com Major Spoilers]] review of Volume 6 pointed out, "Scott Pilgrim Grows a Pair" would be a pretty fitting alternate title. It's actually possible that this innuendo was not accidental at all...
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** Scott may be the psychological and or emotional crutch for many if not all his friends. Kim Pine has self-esteem issues masked behind her mildly misanthropic nature while Stephen has alot of neurotic moments and has a knack for entering unhealthy relationships with abrasive individuals. This isn't counting for lesser-known characters like Neil, who we know little about. We see glimpses of them when they're not around Scott and they're usually not happy. In fact, many of the happy moments tend to be when they are together with Scott. Even those like Wallace Wells could be considered as Wallace seems to drink alot and occasionally seen as a hedonist. Knives has her friend, but was focused mainly on her studies and didn't know much of the outside world until meeting Scott. Even (or rather, especially) Ramona herself, as Scott proves to be the one for her and the one who ultimately gives her the confidence in moving forward. This could explain why they deal with Scott and his problems, because they really don't have any other friends (or even may not be capable of making friends with others, the exception being Wallace, who has done pretty well for himself). Scott is what holds the gang together since it was formed from everyone meeting him. Without him, the group would fall apart and would result in them being miserable lonely people.
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** Scott may be the psychological and or emotional crutch for many if not all his friends. Kim Pine has self-esteem issues masked behind her mildly misanthropic nature while Stephen has alot of neurotic moments and has a knack for entering unhealthy relationships with abrasive individuals. This isn't counting for lesser-known characters like Neil, who we know little about. We see glimpses of them when they're not around Scott and they're usually not happy. In fact, many of the happy moments tend to be when they are together with Scott. Even those like Wallace Wells could be considered as Wallace seems to drink alot and occasionally seen as a hedonist. Knives has her friend, but was focused mainly on her studies and didn't know much of the outside world until meeting Scott. Even (or rather, especially) Ramona herself, as Scott proves to be the one for her and the one who ultimately gives her the confidence in moving forward. This could explain why they deal with Scott and his problems, because they really don't have any other friends (or even may not be capable of making friends with others, the exception being Wallace, who has done pretty well for himself). Scott is what holds the gang together since it was formed from everyone meeting him. Without him, the group would fall apart and would result in them being miserable lonely people.
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-->For YMMV tropes that apply to the movie, go [[YMMV/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld here]].
-->For YMMV tropes that apply to the video game, go [[YMMV/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorldTheGame here]].
-->For YMMV tropes that apply to the video game, go [[YMMV/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorldTheGame here]].
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** Many people have noticed [[https://i.imgur.com/BZezFhL.png Scott Pilgrim's testicles]]. Made funnier because, as the [[http://www.majorspoilers.com Major Spoilers]] review of Volume 6 pointed out, "Scott Pilgrim Grows a Pair" would be a pretty fitting alternate title... It's actually possible that this innuendo was not accidental at all.
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** Many people have noticed [[https://i.imgur.com/BZezFhL.png Scott Pilgrim's testicles]]. Made funnier because, as the [[http://www.majorspoilers.com Major Spoilers]] review of Volume 6 pointed out, "Scott Pilgrim Grows a Pair" would be a pretty fitting alternate title... title. It's actually possible that this innuendo was not accidental at all.all...
