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* MoralEventHorizon: [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Pitch]] killing [[spoiler:Sandman]]. That's when we know he's willing to do anything to be believed in, no matter how horrible. If he didn't cross it then, he certainly did in the climax when [[spoiler: he was ready to either kill Jamie or [[MindRape turn him into a fearling]]]]. That was the first time he made it clear he WouldHurtAChild.

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Pitch]] killing [[spoiler:Sandman]]. That's [[spoiler:Sandman]] is when we know he's willing to do anything to be believed in, no matter how horrible. If he didn't cross it then, he certainly did in Then, during the climax when [[spoiler: climax, he was is ready to either [[spoiler:either kill Jamie or [[MindRape turn him into a fearling]]]]. That was the first time That's when he made makes it clear he WouldHurtAChild.



** Some see [[HoYay subtext]] between Jack and Bunny. Others see it as a case of BestialityIsDepraved because Bunny is, well, a ''[[FunnyAnimal bunny]]''.

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** Some see [[HoYay subtext]] between Jack and Bunny. Others see it as a case of BestialityIsDepraved because Bunny is, well, a ''[[FunnyAnimal bunny]]''.[[FunnyAnimal bunny]].



** Jack's sister, who witness his death and didn't even know he became a spirit.

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** Jack's sister, who sister witness his death and didn't even know he became a spirit.
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Memetic Loser is remembered mostly, if not exclusively, for being a loser. While these jokes are made sometimes and some hate fics are written, in the majority of fanworks, these characters are as competent as they are in the movie. Jack is worshiped by a portion of his fans, just like any popular character; there’s nothing special about this to call him a Sacred Cow.


* MemeticLoser:
** Those who dislike Jack Frost, specifically Elsa fans who hate having him paired up with her, love to bring up the movie's poor box office performance and being a dead franchise. Many fanarts and jokes will tend to portray Jack as a failure who's trying to date Elsa as a way to save his career.
** Jack Frost will often be shown as being this to Shrek, a fan favorite and Dreamworks darling.
** Pitch Black is sometimes portrayed as a massive AttentionWhore and/or {{Yandere}} and a ButtMonkey at the same time.
* MemeticMolester:
** Due to Jack being 300 years old, some fanfic writers have portrayed him this way when it comes to shipping him with anyone who isn't immortal.
** His scenes of looking through Jamie's window have been used by fanfic writers and Website/YouTube videos to make him look like a stalker.
** The existence of the horror film ''Film/JackFrost1997'' certainly hasn't helped either, as people have joked that the killer snowman and Jack are the same person.



%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * SacredCow: Jack Frost for a lot of fans. Let's just leave it at that, shall we?
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* HoYay: Some fans take Pitch's words and actions in the Antarctica scene as him having a VillainousCrush on Jack.
** Making his WeCanRuleTogether offer, Pitch stresses that he and Jack are NotSoDifferent, empathizes with his loneliness, and says he longs for a family. Then, this follows:
--->'''Pitch''': We don't have to be alone, Jack. I believe in you. . . . Look at what we can do! (points at a sculpture made of ice and black sand) What goes together better than cold and dark?
** When Jack refuses the offer, Pitch looks heartbroken and then, has an IfICantHaveYou reaction. He demands Jack's staff in exchange for Baby Tooth, only to refuse to let her go, break the staff, and blast Jack into a crevasse.
--->'''Pitch:''' You said you wanted [[ExactWords to be alone]]... so [[SuddenlyShouting BE ALONE]]!!
** The OST for the WeCanRuleTogether part is even called Seduction. WordOfGod says Pitch is sincere about not wanting to be alone, makes himself vulnerable for Jack, and is genuinely hurt by his rejection. The DVD commentary also uses the phrase "...Jack spurned him."
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* DieForOurShip: Shipping Jack with Elsa from ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' is an odd case of a non-canon CrossoverShip inspiring this treatment. The pairing grew very popular, frequently featured everywhere from fanfiction to cosplay, so some perceive Jack as getting in the way of whatever other [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa ship]] they prefer. To let her hook up with someone else, quite a few fanworks kill, humiliate, and/or rewrite Jack into [[RonTheDeathEater an insolent egotistic jerkass]], a far cry from the AllLovingHero he is in the movie.

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* DieForOurShip: Shipping Jack with Elsa from ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' is an odd case of a non-canon CrossoverShip inspiring this treatment. The pairing grew very popular, frequently featured everywhere from fanfiction to cosplay, so some perceive Jack as getting in the way of whatever other [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa ship]] they prefer. To let her hook up with someone else, quite a few fanworks kill, humiliate, and/or rewrite Jack into [[RonTheDeathEater an insolent egotistic jerkass]], a far cry from the AllLovingHero he is in the movie.demonize]], or outright kill Jack.



** As a result of ship wars, Jack Frost turns into a jerkass or an outright villain in some fanfics intending to sink the Jack/Elsa ship.

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** As a result of ship wars, Jack Frost turns into a jerkass or an outright villain in In some fanfics intending to sink the Jack/Elsa ship.ship, Jack turns into an insolent egotistic jerkass or an outright villain, a far cry from the AllLovingHero he is in the movie.

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* HypeBacklash: The massive popularity of the Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] CrossoverShip and the heated arguments for and against it have gained a backlash not only against the movie but also [[MisplacedRetribution its fans and even William Joyce]], the original creator of the Guardians. Most of the backlash against the film is caused by it, as there was no such hate until ''after'' the ship took off.
** During an Instagram Q/A, William Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.



* ItsPopularNowItSucks: The massive popularity of the Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] CrossoverShip and the heated arguments for and against it have gained a backlash not only against the movie but also [[MisplacedRetribution its fans and even William Joyce]], the original creator of the Guardians. Most of the backlash against the film is caused by it, as there was no such hate until ''after'' the ship took off.
** During an Instagram Q/A, William Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.
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** The process of becoming a Guardian is also this for people afraid of death, given that all it takes is a little slip and boom, [[AlternateIdentityAmnesia you've lost your memories]], all you know about yourself is your name, and [[AdultFear your family will never know what truly happened to you]].
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** In ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] is a popular ship as is Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Merida]] and Jack/[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]].

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** In ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, you GottaShipEmAll. The most popular pairings are Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] is a popular ship as is Rapunzel]], Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Merida]] Merida]], and Jack/[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]].

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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the movie being based on [[Literature/TheGuardiansOfChildhood a book series]] is widely known across the fanbase, there are still some odd numbers of people who think that Dreamworks created the characters from scratch.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: While most of the movie being movie's fanbase knows that it's based on [[Literature/TheGuardiansOfChildhood a book series]] is widely known across the fanbase, there are still series]], some odd numbers of people who outside of it think that Dreamworks created the characters from scratch.



* ColbertBump: ''Rise of the Guardians'' bombed in theaters but still gained its dedicated fanbase. Then, many fans of the very successful ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' noticed this movie as Jack/Elsa CrossoverShip grew popular.

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* ColbertBump: ''Rise of the Guardians'' bombed in theaters but still gained its dedicated fanbase. Then, many fans of the very successful ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' noticed this movie as Jack/Elsa CrossoverShip grew popular. However, this also caused a backlash agains the movie.



** The fans are also very fond of Jack's sister who only appears once and isn't named.
* EscapistCharacter: A young boy who dies young, becomes immortal, is free to travel the world without responsibilities, and has magic powers while dressed in a hoodie? No wonder he's popular with teenagers and fan artists.

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** The fans are also very fond of Jack's sister who only appears once and isn't even named.
* EscapistCharacter: A young Jack is a boy who dies young, becomes immortal, is free to travel the world without responsibilities, and has magic powers while dressed in a hoodie? hoodie. No wonder he's popular with teenagers and fan artists.



** ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' is fans of ''Rise of the Guardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' taking FriendlyFandoms to extreme and becoming a fandom itself.
** With ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''. Both movies give a lot of focus and development to a TragicIceCharacter and have fear as the antagonistic force, and Jack is often paired up with Elsa. At the same time, there is a [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] with parts of ''Frozen'' fandom, for ''exactly the same reasons''.

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** ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' is fans of ''Rise of the Guardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' taking FriendlyFandoms to extreme and becoming a fandom itself.
** With ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''.
itself. Then, ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' was released and added to the mix. Both movies give a lot of focus and development to a TragicIceCharacter and have fear as the antagonistic force, and Jack is often paired up with Elsa. At the same time, there is a [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] with parts of ''Frozen'' fandom, for ''exactly the same reasons''.

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* ColbertBump: ''Rise of the Guardians'' bombed in theaters but still gained its fanbase, not big but dedicated. Then, many fans of the very successful ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' noticed this movie as Jack/Elsa CrossoverShip grew popular.

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* ColbertBump: ''Rise of the Guardians'' bombed in theaters but still gained its fanbase, not big but dedicated.dedicated fanbase. Then, many fans of the very successful ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' noticed this movie as Jack/Elsa CrossoverShip grew popular.



** ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'' fans and ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' fans often accuse Disney or {{Creator/Dream Works Animation}} of stealing the idea of a movie focusing on AnIcePerson. Neither invented the concept: in fact, each studio have been very open about both Elsa and Jack Frost being based on pre-existing characters that predate ''both'' films, Elsa being inspired by [[Literature/TheSnowQueen a nineteenth-century tale]] written by Creator/HansChristianAndersen and Jack Frost originating in folklore. Disney had been working on a film based on the Snow Queen on and off for decades, since the days of Walt himself, and leaked pre-production art was already online by 2008, the year Dreamworks purchased the film rights to William Joyce's ''The Guardians of Childhood'' book series, which united the variety of folkloric characters seen in the film, including not just Jack Frost, but other well-known childhood staples such as the Sandman and the Easter Bunny.

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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'' fans and ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' fans often accuse Disney or {{Creator/Dream Works Animation}} Creator/DreamWorks of stealing the idea of a movie focusing on AnIcePerson. Neither invented the concept: in fact, each studio have been very open about both Elsa and Jack Frost being based on pre-existing characters that predate ''both'' films, Elsa being inspired by [[Literature/TheSnowQueen a nineteenth-century tale]] written by Creator/HansChristianAndersen and Jack Frost originating in folklore. Disney had been working on a film based on the Snow Queen on and off for decades, since the days of Walt himself, and leaked pre-production art was already online by 2008, the year Dreamworks purchased the film rights to William Joyce's ''The Guardians of Childhood'' book series, which united the variety of folkloric characters seen in the film, including not just Jack Frost, but other well-known childhood staples such as the Sandman and the Easter Bunny.



* FoeYayShipping: Any of the times Pitch is paired with a Guardian, particularly [[Main/NotSoDifferent Black Ice]] (Jack/Pitch), [[Main/OppositesAttract Black Sand]] (Pitch/Sandy), and Cavity (Tooth/Pitch).

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* FoeYayShipping: Any of the times Pitch is gets paired with a every Guardian, particularly [[Main/NotSoDifferent Black Ice]] (Jack/Pitch), [[Main/OppositesAttract Black Sand]] (Pitch/Sandy), most commonly with [[NotSoDifferent Jack]], [[OppositesAttract Sandy]], and Cavity (Tooth/Pitch).Tooth.



** With ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013''. Both movies give a lot of focus and development to a TragicIceCharacter and have fear as the antagonistic force, and Jack is often paired up with Elsa. At the same time, there is a [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] with parts of ''Frozen'' fandom, for ''exactly the same reasons''.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some fans of [[Literature/TheGuardiansOfChildhood the original books]] criticize the drastic {{Adaptation Personality Change}}s for most characters. Bunny and Tooth are nothing like in the books, and Pitch's backstory isn't even hinted at in the movie.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some fans of [[Literature/TheGuardiansOfChildhood the original books]] criticize the drastic {{Adaptation Personality Change}}s for most characters. In particular, Bunny and Tooth are nothing like in the books, and Pitch's backstory isn't even hinted at in the movie.at.
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* AwardSnub: Was edged out of a nomination for the Oscars' Best Animated Feature by the surprise choice of ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesBandOfMisfits''.

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* AwardSnub: Was The movie was edged out of a nomination for the Oscars' Best Animated Feature by the surprise choice of ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesBandOfMisfits''.



* ColbertBump: The [[CrossoverShip crossover ship]] of Jack with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] has been credited for the popularity of this movie, seeing how it didn't have that big of an audience or fanbase to begin with.

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* ColbertBump: The [[CrossoverShip crossover ship]] ''Rise of Jack with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] has been credited for the popularity Guardians'' bombed in theaters but still gained its fanbase, not big but dedicated. Then, many fans of the very successful ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' noticed this movie, seeing how it didn't have that big of an audience or fanbase to begin with.movie as Jack/Elsa CrossoverShip grew popular.

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** The spirits in this movie are [[InvisibleToNormals invisible to anyone who doesn't believe in them]]. So one of them could easily watch you from the window or stand right next to you, ''and you would never know''. The Guardians are benevolent spirits though; now imagine that the MonsterUnderTheBed is real, and this one is very unfriendly. He can corrupt your dreams and give you endless nightmares about things you fear the most, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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** The spirits in this movie are [[InvisibleToNormals invisible to anyone who doesn't believe in them]]. So one them. One of them could can easily watch you from the window or stand right next to you, you as they have means to get into your house, ''and you would will never know''. They can even access your dreams and memories.
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The Guardians are benevolent spirits though; now imagine that the MonsterUnderTheBed is real, and this one is very unfriendly. real. He can corrupt your dreams and give you endless nightmares about things you fear the most, and most or, if you have children, he is likely to target ''them''. And there's nothing you can do about it.
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* UncannyValley: The design of the Guardians and some of the kids come across as this to several viewers, often described as a strange movie by those who remember it. A lot of this can be attributed to the fact that the animators were trying out a new skin texture that, as the Art of the Rise Of The Guardians book described, resembles "jelly".

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* UncannyValley: The design of the Guardians and some of the kids come comes across as this to several viewers, often described as a strange movie by those who remember it. A lot of this viewers. This can be attributed to the fact that the animators were trying out a new skin texture that, as the Art of the Rise Of The Guardians book described, resembles "jelly".
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** The Guardians are [[InvisibleToNormals invisible to anyone who doesn't believe in them]]. So one of them could easily watch you from the window, be in the same room with you, or be standing right next to you, ''and you would never know''.

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** The Guardians spirits in this movie are [[InvisibleToNormals invisible to anyone who doesn't believe in them]]. So one of them could easily watch you from the window, be in the same room with you, window or be standing stand right next to you, ''and you would never know''.know''. The Guardians are benevolent spirits though; now imagine that the MonsterUnderTheBed is real, and this one is very unfriendly. He can corrupt your dreams and give you endless nightmares about things you fear the most, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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* WTHCastingAgency:
** While many tend to defend Creator/ChrisPine as Jack Frost, arguing that it reflects him being Really700YearsOld, others are critical, asking why Jack's [[VocalDissonance voice changes when his body doesn't]], why his [[ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty voice stops aging at 30]] and why he still had the same voice [[spoiler:when he was actually a human teenager]].
** For some, the Australian Creator/HughJackman as the Easter Bunny. Australia doesn't have EasterBunny since bunnies are seen as vermin there, and some think Jackman's signature BadassBaritone is unfitting for the character and makes him hard to take seriously.

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* WTHCastingAgency:
** While many tend to defend Creator/ChrisPine as Jack Frost, arguing that it reflects him being Really700YearsOld, others are critical, asking why Jack's [[VocalDissonance voice changes when his body doesn't]], why his [[ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty voice stops aging at 30]] and why he still had the same voice [[spoiler:when he was actually a human teenager]].
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* GirlShowGhetto: While ''not'' a girly film, [[MrFanservice Jack]] being EstrogenBrigadeBait (and heavily featured in the marketing) and a LauncherOfAThousandShips has probably not done this film any favors, with many potential viewers (and {{Hype Backlash}}ers) disregarding it on account of Jack's popularity with female viewers and shippers.

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* GirlShowGhetto: While ''Rise of the Guardians'' is ''not'' a girly film, [[MrFanservice Jack]] being EstrogenBrigadeBait (and heavily featured in the marketing) and a LauncherOfAThousandShips has probably not done this film any favors, with many potential viewers (and {{Hype Backlash}}ers) disregarding some people disregard it on account of [[EstrogenBrigade Jack's popularity with female viewers viewers]] and shippers.[[LauncherOfAThousandShips shippers]].
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*** Why does he initially refrain from actually attacking children or Jack? Is this a case of EvenEvilHasStandards, or is it just [[PragmaticVillainy counter-productive]] to make extra enemies and attack [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly your potential believers]]? Similarly, is his affection towards nightmares genuine, or does he play a BenevolentBoss to keep himself on their good side?
* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:When Jack gets back the memories of his human life, he is absolutely delighted: he had a family once and even saved his younger sister! The facts that he died in the process and that, by now, all of said family is long gone doesn’t seem to bother him at all.]]

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*** Why does he initially refrain from actually attacking children or Jack? Is this a case of EvenEvilHasStandards, or is it just [[PragmaticVillainy counter-productive]] to make extra enemies and attack [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly your potential believers]]? Similarly, is his affection towards nightmares genuine, or does he play a BenevolentBoss to keep himself on their good side?
* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:When Jack gets back the memories of his human life, he is absolutely delighted: he had a family once and even saved his younger sister! The facts that he died in the process saving her and that, by now, all of the said family is long gone doesn’t seem isn't shown to bother him at all.]]



* CriticalDissonance: The film received mostly positive reviews from critics, but cost $145 million to produce and only made $103.2 million at the North American box office, becoming Creator/DreamworksAnimation's lowest grossing film domestically since ''WesternAnimation/FlushedAway''. According to Wikipedia, the total worldwide take was $303 million, but Dreamworks saw little of that money once budget costs and the distribution fee owed to Creator/{{Paramount}} were tallied up -- they ultimately lost $83 million on it.

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* CriticalDissonance: The film received mostly positive reviews from critics, but cost $145 million to produce and only made $103.2 million at the North American box office, becoming Creator/DreamworksAnimation's lowest grossing lowest-grossing film domestically since ''WesternAnimation/FlushedAway''. According to Wikipedia, the total worldwide take was $303 million, but Dreamworks saw little of that money once budget costs and the distribution fee owed to Creator/{{Paramount}} were tallied up -- they ultimately lost $83 million on it.



** A small portion of viewers ships Elsa with Pitch instead, because his life's work is fear and her whole problem is letting fear control her and/or because both are viewed as loners wanting someone to accept them and their strange power.
** There's also a small following for "Frosting" ([[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Wendy Darling]]/Jack Frost), as Jack's personality is similar to Peter's.

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** A small portion of viewers ships Elsa with Pitch instead, because his life's work is fear and her whole problem in the first ''Frozen'' is letting fear control her her, and/or because both are viewed as loners wanting someone to accept them and their strange power.
** There's also a small following for "Frosting" ([[WesternAnimation/PeterPan [[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Wendy Darling]]/Jack Frost), Frost, or "Frosting," as Jack's personality is similar to Peter's.
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** The issue has even reached William Joyce. During an Instagram Q/A, Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.

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** The issue has even reached William Joyce. During an Instagram Q/A, William Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.



** Alternately, those who wanted to see it not because of the plot or characters, but because of the incredible animation.

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** Alternately, those who Some wanted to see it not because of the plot or characters, but because of the incredible animation.
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* ShipToShipCombat: A rather odd crossover example, but fans who ship Jack with [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] sometimes get into disputes against those who prefer to ship him with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]], while the latter group of shippers are also frequently at war with fans of [[FoeYay Hans/Elsa]]. The massive popularity of the Jack/Elsa ship has earned a backlash against it, not helped by some very vitriolic fans of it.

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* ShipToShipCombat: A rather odd crossover example, but fans who ship Jack with [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] sometimes get into disputes against those who prefer to ship him with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]], while the latter group of shippers are also frequently at war with fans of [[FoeYay Hans/Elsa]]. The massive popularity of the Jack/Elsa ship has earned a backlash against it, not helped by some very vitriolic fans of it.



* VindicatedByHistory: By fans? Yes. By Creator/DreamWorks? No. Thanks to the superhero genre's popularity (partly thanks to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' coming out that same year), and the perceived similarities between [[AnIcePerson Jack Frost]] and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] within the fandom (not to mention Jack's LauncherOfAThousandShips status), many people who missed ''Guardians'' in theaters checked it out and came to appreciate its merits. Sadly, Creator/DreamWorks continues to treat ''Guardians'' like an OldShame. It has even gained enough popularity to earn a backlash against it.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Everything is detailed to the last hair. To say nothing of the design of the ice and snow flakes Jack creates, which perfectly capture the art style of Guillermo Del Toro.

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* VindicatedByHistory: By fans? Yes. By Creator/DreamWorks? No. Thanks The movie bombed in theaters but quickly developed a sizable, dedicated internet fanbase. Then, thanks to the superhero genre's popularity (partly thanks (especially to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' coming out that same year), and the perceived similarities between [[AnIcePerson Jack Frost]] and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] within the fandom (not to mention Jack's LauncherOfAThousandShips status), Elsa]], many people who missed ''Guardians'' ''Rise of the Guardians'' in theaters checked it out and came to appreciate its merits. Sadly, Still, Creator/DreamWorks continues to treat ''Guardians'' like the movie as an OldShame. It has even gained enough popularity to earn a backlash against it.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Everything is detailed to the last hair. To say nothing of the The design of the ice and snow flakes snowflakes Jack creates, which creates perfectly capture captures the art style of Guillermo Del Toro.



** While many tend to defend Creator/ChrisPine as Jack Frost, arguing that it foreshadows him being Really700YearsOld, others are more critical, asking why Jack's [[VocalDissonance voice changes when his body doesn't]], why his [[ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty voice stops aging at 30]] and why he still had the same voice [[spoiler:when he was actually a human teenager]].
** For some, Creator/HughJackman as the Easter Bunny. Jackman is Australian, who don't have an Easter Bunny since bunnies are seen as vermin in that country, and some think Jackman's signature BadassBaritone is unfitting for the character and makes him hard to take seriously.

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** While many tend to defend Creator/ChrisPine as Jack Frost, arguing that it foreshadows reflects him being Really700YearsOld, others are more critical, asking why Jack's [[VocalDissonance voice changes when his body doesn't]], why his [[ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty voice stops aging at 30]] and why he still had the same voice [[spoiler:when he was actually a human teenager]].
** For some, the Australian Creator/HughJackman as the Easter Bunny. Jackman is Australian, who don't Australia doesn't have an Easter Bunny EasterBunny since bunnies are seen as vermin in that country, there, and some think Jackman's signature BadassBaritone is unfitting for the character and makes him hard to take seriously.
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** In ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, Jack/Rapunzel is a popular ship as is Jack/Merida and Jack/Hiccup.

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** In ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, Jack/Rapunzel Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] is a popular ship as is Jack/Merida Jack/[[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Merida]] and Jack/Hiccup.Jack/[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]].



** Fans of ''Guardians'' tend to be fans of ''WesternAnimation/{{Epic}}'', given that both are an UrbanFantasy with characters who are HiddenInPlainSight. The fact that they're both inspired by the works of Creator/WilliamJoyce helps. Some even question why the fandom interacts with the fandom of ''Frozen'' so much, when ''Epic'' was right there.
** For... [[EstrogenBrigade reasons]], people who like ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'' also tend to like this movie, due to both featuring an iconic character, [[YoungerAndHipper reimagined as]] a PrettyBoy DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife and ends up giving up on everything he worked for, becoming a lonely soul in the process. Jack/The Once-ler is a rather popular CrossoverShip.
** ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' is fans of ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}, ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' taking FriendlyFandoms to extreme and becoming a fandom itself.

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** Fans of ''Guardians'' ''Rise of the Guardians'' tend to be fans of ''WesternAnimation/{{Epic}}'', given that both are an UrbanFantasy with characters who are HiddenInPlainSight. The fact that they're both inspired by the works of Creator/WilliamJoyce helps. Some even question why the fandom interacts with the fandom of ''Frozen'' so much, when ''Epic'' was right there.
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** For... [[EstrogenBrigade reasons]], people who like ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'' also tend to like this movie, due to movie: both featuring feature an iconic character, [[YoungerAndHipper reimagined as]] a PrettyBoy DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife and ends up giving who gives up on everything he worked for, becoming a lonely soul in the process. Jack/The Once-ler is a rather popular CrossoverShip.
** ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' is fans of ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}, ''Rise of the Guardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' taking FriendlyFandoms to extreme and becoming a fandom itself.
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** ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' is fans of ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}, ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' taking FriendlyFandoms to extreme and becoming a fandom itself.

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* CrossoverShip: Jack/Rapunzel is a popular ship in ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, as is Jack/Merida and Jack/Hiccup. After the release of ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Jack/Elsa has become immensely popular. There's also a small following for "Frosting" ([[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Wendy Darling]]/Jack Frost), as Jack's personality is similar to Peter's.

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''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom, Jack/Rapunzel is a popular ship as is Jack/Merida and Jack/Hiccup. Jack/Hiccup.
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After the release of ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Jack/Elsa Jack is very often shipped with Elsa, not just because they're both [[AnIcePerson ice people]] protective of their younger sisters, but also because Jack's playfulness contrasts interestingly with Elsa's seriousness. The ship's name is "Jelsa" though some people prefer them as siblings and call them "Frost Family". The ship has become immensely popular. inspired many fanworks to the point of attracting backlash from those irritated by its popularity.
** A small portion of viewers ships Elsa with Pitch instead, because his life's work is fear and her whole problem is letting fear control her and/or because both are viewed as loners wanting someone to accept them and their strange power.
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There's also a small following for "Frosting" ([[WesternAnimation/PeterPan Wendy Darling]]/Jack Frost), as Jack's personality is similar to Peter's.
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* DieForOurShip: Shipping Jack with Elsa from ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' is an odd case of a non-canon CrossoverShip inspiring this treatment. The pairing grew very popular, frequently featured everywhere from fanfiction to cosplay, so some perceive Jack as getting in the way of whatever other [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Elsa ship]] they prefer. To let her hook up with someone else, quite a few fanworks kill, humiliate, and/or rewrite Jack into [[RonTheDeathEater an insolent egotistic jerkass]], a far cry from the AllLovingHero he is in the movie.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Pitch Black. He gets hate as the bad guy who causes the heroes a lot of grief and has a number of fangirls [[DracoInLeatherPants who believe he's done nothing bad]]. Some see him as a TragicVillain and a complex, fascinating character; others think he's generic, [[{{Wangst}} whiny]], and [[NightmareRetardant not as scary as he's supposed to be]]. And then, some book fans express frustration about how the movie [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changes his backstory and motives]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Jack Frost. While widely accepted by people at the start, the fandom reaction and [[SacredCow treatment of his character over the years]] has resulted in the character becoming incredibly [[IncrediblyLamePun polarizing]]. While the film has a bit of a bad reputation for its invasive ship wars, the most influential factor has been the massively popular CrossoverShip of Jack Frost with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]]. The ship has become a really popular crossover pairing, resulting in fanart, fanfics, and even cosplays becoming attractions at conventions, and while adored by fans, this has resulted in many fans becoming sick of the ship.
** Pitch Black. He gets hate as the bad guy who causes the heroes a lot of grief and has a number of fangirls [[DracoInLeatherPants who believe he's done nothing bad]]. Some see him as a TragicVillain and a complex, fascinating character; others think he's generic, [[{{Wangst}} whiny]], and [[NightmareRetardant not as scary as he's supposed to be]]. And then, some book fans express frustration about how the movie [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changes his backstory and motives]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Jack Frost. While widely accepted by people at the start, the fandom reaction and [[SacredCow treatment of his character over the years]] has resulted in the character becoming incredibly [[IncrediblyLamePun polarizing]]. While the film has a bit of a bad reputation for its invasive ship wars, the most influential factor has been the massively popular CrossoverShip of Jack Frost with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]]. The ship has become a really popular crossover pairing, resulting in fanart, fanfics, and even cosplays becoming attractions at conventions, and while adored by fans, this has resulted in many fans becoming sick of the ship.
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BaseBreakingCharacter: Pitch Black. He gets hate as the bad guy who causes the heroes a lot of grief and has a number of fangirls [[DracoInLeatherPants who believe he's done nothing bad]]. Some see him as a TragicVillain and a complex, fascinating character; others think he's generic, [[{{Wangst}} whiny]], and [[NightmareRetardant not as scary as he's supposed to be]]. And then, some book fans express frustration about how the movie [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changes his backstory and motives]].
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Ron The Death Eater again. While Unintentionally Unsympathetic is an audience reaction, it still requires a degree of objectivity and doesn't allow vilifying. Jack is not "callous and aloof" and does not "take out his frustration with the Man in the Moon on the Guardians;" he is actually pretty friendly with them. He does get snippy with Bunny — after Bunny gets snippy with him. He has a right to be frustrated with the Man in the Moon's actions and has a right to turn down an offer he's not interested in.


* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Jack Frost comes too close to this trope for some viewers. While the movie establishes that he had been left alone without a reason or purpose for his existence for over 300 years, his attitude when presented with the offer to become a Guardian is callous and aloof. He comes across as not wanting to be responsible, and takes out his frustration with the Man in the Moon on the Guardians.
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** Some see [[HoYay subtext]] between Jack and Bunny. Others see it as a case of BestialityIsDepraved because Bunny is, well, a [[FunnyAnimal ''bunny'']].

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** Some see [[HoYay subtext]] between Jack and Bunny. Others see it as a case of BestialityIsDepraved because Bunny is, well, a [[FunnyAnimal ''bunny'']].''[[FunnyAnimal bunny]]''.
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And this is a bit of Ron The Death Eater because the movie makes this clear enough. Jack saves Baby Tooth on the way to the Tooth Palace and lunges to attack Pitch along with the Guardians — before knowing about memories. Then, Jack is clearly friendly and sympathetic towards the Guardians, and they bond throughout the movie. Jack wants his memories, sure, but he is not acting out of self-interest alone.


** Jack Frost. He refuses to accept the invitation to become a Guardian and only does so when he sees the chance to know about his past. Was he really trying to help the Guardians or did he only do it out of self-interest?
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Rooting For The Empire is "Where the villains of a series become more popular than the good guys. The heroes start to rub the fans the wrong way, and a notable proportion of the fandom now dislikes and actively bashes the main characters. For these fans they can almost become a Hatedom, yet they call themselves fans and continue to read/watch/play the source material because they like the bad guys." So, people who just hate the movie, its characters, or holidays don't count. And sure, some find Pitch to be more sympathetic than the main heroes, and that's Draco In Leather Pants.


* RootingForTheEmpire: Many people who don't celebrate holidays will find themselves rooting for Pitch to win, as well as ''Frozen'' fans who hate the Jack/Elsa pairing. Then there are those who just dislike the Guardians and find Pitch to be a lot more interesting and sympathetic than the main heroes.
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** The fans are also very fond of Jack's sister (who isn't named and only appears once) and Pitch's daughter (who doesn't even appear in the movie).

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** The fans are also very fond of Jack's sister (who isn't named and who only appears once) once and Pitch's daughter (who doesn't even appear in the movie).isn't named.



** For... [[EstrogenBrigade reasons]], people who like ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'' also tend to like this movie, due to both featuring an iconic character, [[YoungerAndHipper reimagined into]] a PrettyBoy who is DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife and ends up giving up on everything he worked for, becoming a lonely soul in the process. Because of that, Jack/The Once-ler is almost rivaling Jelsa in terms of CrossoverShip popularity.

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** For... [[EstrogenBrigade reasons]], people who like ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'' also tend to like this movie, due to both featuring an iconic character, [[YoungerAndHipper reimagined into]] as]] a PrettyBoy who is DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife and ends up giving up on everything he worked for, becoming a lonely soul in the process. Because of that, Jack/The Once-ler is almost rivaling Jelsa in terms of CrossoverShip popularity.a rather popular CrossoverShip.



* ItsPopularNowItSucks: The SacredCow treatment of Jack Frost, the massive popularity of the Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] CrossoverShip, and the heated arguments for and against it have gained a massive backlash not only against the movie, but also [[MisplacedRetribution its fans and even William Joyce himself]]. Most of the backlash against the film is caused by it, as there was no such hate until ''after'' the ship took off.
** The issue has even reached the creator of Jack Frost, William Joyce. During an instagram Q/A, Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: The SacredCow treatment of Jack Frost, the massive popularity of the Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] CrossoverShip, CrossoverShip and the heated arguments for and against it have gained a massive backlash not only against the movie, movie but also [[MisplacedRetribution its fans and even William Joyce himself]].Joyce]], the original creator of the Guardians. Most of the backlash against the film is caused by it, as there was no such hate until ''after'' the ship took off.
** The issue has even reached the creator of Jack Frost, William Joyce. During an instagram Instagram Q/A, Joyce was asked about the ship to which he replied that "It would be delightful if they could be together", while also acknowledging the impossibility of it as the two are owned by rival studios. While met with approval, he was also on the receiving end of some not so favorable comments and he hasn't touched the subject ever since, at least on a public forum.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jack Frost. He's paired with the other Guardians, Pitch, and Jamie, with original characters, with [[{{WesternAnimation/Tangled}} Rapunzel]], [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} Merida]], [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]], and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa or Anna]]. There's also a vocal minority who speculate that Elsa and Anna are [[EpilepticTrees somehow]] [[AbsurdlyYouthfulParents Jack and Rapunzel's]] ''daughters''.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jack Frost. He's paired with the other Guardians, Pitch, and Jamie, with original characters, with [[{{WesternAnimation/Tangled}} Rapunzel]], [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} Merida]], [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]], and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa or Anna]]. There's also a vocal minority who speculate Some fans like to [[EpilepticTrees speculate]] that Elsa and Anna are [[EpilepticTrees somehow]] [[AbsurdlyYouthfulParents somehow Jack and Rapunzel's]] Rapunzel's ''daughters''.



** Pitch Black gets this, too. Often being portrayed as a massive AttentionWhore and/or {{Yandere}}, while being a ButtMonkey at the same time.

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** Pitch Black gets this, too. Often being is sometimes portrayed as a massive AttentionWhore and/or {{Yandere}}, while being {{Yandere}} and a ButtMonkey at the same time.



** Pitch gets this treatment as much as a villain can. In the movie, he's a bad guy all right, but he is [[AntiVillain somewhat morally ambiguous]]. In some fanfics, he turns into a Voldemort with a nose. ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom and Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] fanworks are especially guilty of this.

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** Pitch gets this treatment as much as a villain can. In the movie, he's a bad guy all right, but he is [[AntiVillain somewhat morally ambiguous]]. In some fanfics, he turns into a Voldemort with a nose. ''Fanfic/RiseOfTheBraveTangledDragons'' fandom and Jack/[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]] fanworks are especially guilty of this.



** Creator/HughJackman as the Easter Bunny. Ignoring that Jackman is Australian, [[IronyAsSheIsCast who don't have an Easter Bunny since bunnies are seen as vermin in that country]], if you looked at the cast list without watching the movie, you'd think this is some sort of joke. Even then, some think Jackman's signature BadassBaritone is unfitting for the character and makes him hard to take seriously.

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** For some, Creator/HughJackman as the Easter Bunny. Ignoring that Jackman is Australian, [[IronyAsSheIsCast who don't have an Easter Bunny since bunnies are seen as vermin in that country]], if you looked at the cast list without watching the movie, you'd think this is some sort of joke. Even then, country, and some think Jackman's signature BadassBaritone is unfitting for the character and makes him hard to take seriously.
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jack Frost. He's paired with the other Guardians, Pitch, and Jamie, with original characters, with [[{{WesternAnimation/Tangled}} Rapunzel]], [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} Merida, with [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]], and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa or Anna]]. There's also a vocal minority who speculate that Elsa and Anna are [[EpilepticTrees somehow]] [[AbsurdlyYouthfulParents Jack and Rapunzel's]] ''daughters''.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jack Frost. He's paired with the other Guardians, Pitch, and Jamie, with original characters, with [[{{WesternAnimation/Tangled}} Rapunzel]], [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} Merida, with Merida]], [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon Hiccup]], and [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa or Anna]]. There's also a vocal minority who speculate that Elsa and Anna are [[EpilepticTrees somehow]] [[AbsurdlyYouthfulParents Jack and Rapunzel's]] ''daughters''.

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