History YMMV / RedHoodAndTheOutlaws

15th Jun '16 1:45:18 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Based ''purely'' on her design, Artemis of the Rebirth series got this, even from people who otherwise despise the series.
28th May '16 10:02:35 PM DreamerCynist2
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** Starfire's new costume (often described as "dental floss" is so ridiculous to many people that she's impossible to take seriously.

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** Starfire's new costume (often described as "dental floss" floss") is so ridiculous to many people that she's impossible to take seriously.



** Jason's helmets tend to break a lot. Makes you wonder why he even wears it.

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** Jason's helmets tend to break a lot. Makes you wonder why he even wears it. The level of detail it's given in the artwork (to the point of having lips) is often mocked as well.
28th May '16 12:07:37 PM DreamerCynist2
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** The fact that the pre-Rebirth incarnation of the title and its sequel RedHoodArsenal both deal with Jason becoming a more stable, heroic figure and mending fences with the rest of the Batfamily: A interesting, welcome bit of character development that results in several heartwarming moments? A decent concept let down by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot bad writing and rushed development]]? Or an utter train-wreck that does nothing but make Jason a KarmaHoudini and CreatorsPet?
1st Apr '16 12:49:09 PM flyingfishcake
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** Issue 18 gives closure to Jason's issues with Bruce and mends their relationship. Some liked this issue, finding it genuinely heartwarming and one of the better examples of Lobdell's writing. Others find Bruce's acceptance of Jason's lethal methods to be a cop-out, and an excuse to include Jason in more Batfamily events.

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** Issue 18 gives closure to Jason's issues with Bruce and mends their relationship. Some liked this issue, finding it genuinely heartwarming and one of the better examples of Lobdell's writing. Others find Bruce's EasilyForgiven acceptance of Jason's lethal methods to be a cop-out, and an a thinly-veiled excuse to include Jason in more Batfamily events.events.
** The replacement of Roy and Joker's Daughter in favor of Artemis and Bizarro for Comicbook/DCRebirth. Some think a change is sorely needed after years of SeasonalRot, while others don't think that Creator/ScottLobdell can effectively write those characters.
24th Mar '16 1:52:47 PM Hello9876
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* RelationshipWritingFumble / RomanticPlotTumor: General consensus on the Roy and Starfire relationship is that it's forced and feels like an obvious response to the criticism of the series' early portrayal of Starfire as a nympho without agency. At the same time, the nature of the QuestionableConsent of their first meeting is why many criticize the relationship in the first place.



* RelationshipWritingFumble / RomanticPlotTumor: General consensus on the Roy and Starfire relationship is that it feels forced and feels like an obvious response to the criticism of the series' early portrayal of Starfire as a nympho without agency. At the same time, the nature of the QuestionableConsent of their first meeting is why many criticize the relationship in the first place.
24th Mar '16 1:51:53 PM Hello9876
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* RelationshipWritingFumble / RomanticPlotTumor: General consensus on the Roy and Starfire relationship is that it feels forced and feels like an obvious response to the criticism of the series' early portrayal of Starfire as a nympho without agency. At the same time, the nature of the QuestionableConsent of their first meeting is why many criticize the relationship in the first place.
24th Mar '16 1:31:43 AM Hello9876
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* MisBlamed: Fans of this series often pin the blame for poor reviews and sales on James Tynion and "social justice warriors", even though most of the criticisms and grievances of the series were originally directed towards Scott Lobdell's writing.
9th Feb '16 9:09:36 PM Hello9876
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* PanderingToTheBase: The so-called "assassin training" with All-Caste seems to add more to "who would win" arguments on Internet forums than the book itself. It's part of the reason why Jason is frequently labeled a CreatorsPet.
7th Feb '16 12:16:31 AM Scabbard
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* NeverLiveItDown: The infamous first issue turned ''many'' people off from the series and years later is still one of the first things to surface anytime this book is talked about. Whether or not it has recovered since then is a point of debate, though [[SeasonalRot sales and critical reception]] has not been kind, and even readers who enjoyed the first issue have been turned away by recent issues]].

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* NeverLiveItDown: The infamous first issue turned ''many'' people off from the series and years later is still one of the first things to surface anytime this book is talked about. Whether or not it has recovered since then is a point of debate, though [[SeasonalRot sales and critical reception]] has not been kind, and even readers who enjoyed the first issue have been turned away by recent issues]].issues.
29th Jan '16 10:05:15 PM Quanyails
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*** Even before the first issue came out she was this, as an ex-slave alien warrior princess seemed like an odd fit for a team where the only other characters are two BadassNormals. A lot of fans felt like fellow BadassNormal Rose Wilson/Ravager would have been a better fit, or Amazon Princess Donna Troy/Troia. The former because her character could have simply worked well to the story and her history isn't ''that'' complicated, and the latter because she has a personal relationship with the boys.

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*** Even before the first issue came out she was this, as an ex-slave alien warrior princess seemed like an odd fit for a team where the only other characters are two BadassNormals.{{Badass Normal}}s. A lot of fans felt like fellow BadassNormal Rose Wilson/Ravager would have been a better fit, or Amazon Princess Donna Troy/Troia. The former because her character could have simply worked well to the story and her history isn't ''that'' complicated, and the latter because she has a personal relationship with the boys.
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