History YMMV / RedHoodAndTheOutlaws

22nd Dec '16 5:12:25 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Rocafort's run as penciller for the book, his backgrounds were breath-taking.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Rocafort's run as penciller for the book, his backgrounds were breath-taking.breath-taking (when he bothered to draw backgrounds).
20th Nov '16 11:18:54 PM XSpectreGreyX
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** There are heated discussions on Twitter regarding Jason's sexuality. Some argue that the character should be bisexual, due to numerous HoYay moments in this and previous Red Hood stories, while others insist having him be bi would be too big a departure from the character.

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** There are heated discussions on Twitter regarding Jason's sexuality. Some argue that the character should be bisexual, due to numerous HoYay moments in this and previous Red Hood stories, while others insist having him be bi would be too big a departure from the character. And then there are others who say just having some HoYay moments doesn't equate to actual being attracted to the same-sex, and just consider the HoYay moments as fanservice.
17th Oct '16 11:01:44 AM flyingfishcake
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** While the first issue of the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has been received better than past issues, there are still a few websites that reviewed it negatively, leading to accusations of bias against Lobdell from some fans.

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** While the first issue of the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has generally been received better than past issues, there are previous runs, it's still a few websites that reviewed it negatively, leading to accusations of bias against Lobdell from some fans.drawn criticism, resulting fans leaving angry comments on negative reviews..
26th Sep '16 6:56:05 PM flyingfishcake
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** There are heated discussions on Twitter regarding Jason's sexuality. Some argue that the character should be bisexual, due to numerous HoYay moments in this and previous Red Hood stories, while others insist having him be bi would be too big a departure from the character.


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* FanPreferredCouple: Jason/Roy is a major ship, partly thanks to several (and possibly unintentional) HoYay moments between the two in this series and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, partly due to Jason's lack of love interests, and partly due to the RelationshipWritingFumble of Roy and Kori.
16th Sep '16 10:14:06 PM Million_Dollar_Guy
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** Black Mask isn't bothered by Jason refusing to kill (despite the fact that he was shown shooting in public), and makes him the heir to his crime empire after a few minutes of conversation. Either he's carrying a major VillainBall, or he's baiting Jason hard, in which case the latter would be carrying an even bigger IdiotBall.

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** Black Mask isn't bothered by Jason refusing to kill (despite the fact that he was shown shooting the mayor in public), and makes him the heir to his crime empire after a few minutes of conversation. Either he's carrying a major VillainBall, or he's baiting Jason hard, in which case the latter would be carrying an even bigger IdiotBall.
16th Sep '16 10:13:26 PM Million_Dollar_Guy
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** Reception towards the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has been more mixed than the previous series: some think it's a genuine improvement, some are cautious and expect the series to JumpTheShark at any moment, some say it to be only SoOkayItsAverage, and some find the writing to be just as poor as before.


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** Black Mask isn't bothered by Jason refusing to kill (despite the fact that he was shown shooting in public), and makes him the heir to his crime empire after a few minutes of conversation. Either he's carrying a major VillainBall, or he's baiting Jason hard, in which case the latter would be carrying an even bigger IdiotBall.
13th Sep '16 8:32:55 AM Hello9876
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue, such as Jason's old origin story being restored. While it's still early, some are calling the second series a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue, such as Jason's old origin story being restored.restored, or badly written elements, such as the characterizations of Roy and Starfire, being removed. While it's still early, some are calling the second series a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel.
13th Sep '16 2:48:45 AM Hello9876
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue. From a technical perspective, the solicits for the following issues make it seem like Lobdell is actually taking his time to set up the story and setting, with the new team forming as late as issue #4.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue. From a technical perspective, the solicits for the following issues make it seem like Lobdell is actually taking his time to set up the issue, such as Jason's old origin story and setting, with being restored. While it's still early, some are calling the new team forming as late as issue #4.second series a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel.
2nd Sep '16 7:45:50 AM Vermont
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue. The new series looks to be the long-awaited return to Jason's original status as an anti-villain, with the potential to lean more towards the 'villain' aspect. From a technical perspective, the solicits for the following issues make it seem like Lobdell is actually taking his time to set up the story and setting, with the new team forming as late as issue #4.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Red Hood and the Outlaws: Rebirth'', the series' follow-up to the [[Comicbook/DCRebirth company-wide relaunch]], was met with a warmer reception than the first series' #1. While fans are still exhibiting cold feet regarding Lobdell's involvement with the series, many are happy about numerous elements from the single issue. The new series looks to be the long-awaited return to Jason's original status as an anti-villain, with the potential to lean more towards the 'villain' aspect. From a technical perspective, the solicits for the following issues make it seem like Lobdell is actually taking his time to set up the story and setting, with the new team forming as late as issue #4.
26th Aug '16 1:34:10 PM Million_Dollar_Guy
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** Some see Red Hood as just another generic UnintentionallyUnsympathetic "bad boy" anti-hero, and preferred him as a tragic Batman villain.

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** Some see Red Hood as just another generic UnintentionallyUnsympathetic "bad boy" anti-hero, anti-hero with CreatorsPet qualities, and preferred him as a tragic and nuanced Batman villain.antagonist.



** The fact that the pre-Rebirth incarnation of the title and its sequel RedHoodArsenal both deal with Jason becoming a more stable, heroic figure and mending fences with the rest of the Batfamily: A interesting, welcome bit of character development that results in several heartwarming moments? A decent concept let down by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot bad writing and rushed development]]? Or an utter train-wreck that does nothing but make Jason a KarmaHoudini and CreatorsPet?

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** The fact that the pre-Rebirth incarnation of the title and its sequel RedHoodArsenal both deal with Jason becoming a more stable, heroic less antagonistic figure and mending fences with the rest of the Batfamily: A interesting, welcome bit of character development that results in several heartwarming moments? A decent concept let down by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot bad writing and rushed development]]? Or an utter train-wreck that does nothing but make Jason a KarmaHoudini and CreatorsPet?



** The issue 0 revealing that the Joker basically orchestrated Jason's becoming Robin and his death (as in even Jason finding his mom). Suffice to say, many don't like it, since the Joker comes off as a Villain Sue, and out of character, and outright ignore it.
** Same said for Arsenal's new backstory of being a snotty child prodigy with a neglectful alcoholic dad.

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** The issue 0 revealing that the Joker basically orchestrated Jason's becoming Robin and his death (as in even Jason finding his mom). Suffice to say, many don't like it, since the Joker comes off as a Villain Sue, and out of character, and outright ignore it.
it. As of Comicbook/DCRebirth, it is no longer canon.
** Same said for Arsenal's new backstory of being a snotty child prodigy with a neglectful alcoholic dad.



* [[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's Not Supposed to Win Eisners]]: A common sentiment among readers is that they're [[JustHereForGodzilla only reading for flashing action scenes]], and that some of the harshest criticism (with regards to the writing and characterization) towards the book is uncalled for.

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* [[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's Not Supposed to Win Eisners]]: A common sentiment among readers is that they're [[JustHereForGodzilla only reading for flashing flashy action scenes]], and that some of the harshest criticism (with regards to the writing and characterization) towards the book is uncalled for.
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