History YMMV / PrincessMaker

24th Feb '17 5:50:30 PM TristanJeremiah
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Has a strong Korean fanbase. In fact, the newest game in the series, Princess Maker for Kakao, was Korean-made and didn't come to Japan until three years later!

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Koreans Love Princess Maker]]: Has a strong Korean fanbase. In fact, the newest game in the series, Princess Maker for Kakao, was Korean-made and didn't come to Japan until three years later!
17th Feb '17 6:32:45 PM JustaUsername
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* SequelDisplacement: If it wasn't for the obvious "2" in the title of the second game, most people wouldn't know the original ''Princess Maker'' even ''exists. Princess Maker 2'' is, in fact, the one that almost ''everyone'' thinks of when they think of the series (hence the reason it's the page pic for the main page), although this is admittedly largely because it was the only one to ever get an English language release.

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* SequelDisplacement: If it wasn't for the obvious "2" in the title of the second game, most people wouldn't know the original ''Princess Maker'' even ''exists. Princess Maker 2'' is, in fact, the one that almost ''everyone'' thinks of when they think of the series (hence the reason it's the page pic for the main page), although this is admittedly largely because it was the only one to ever get an English language release.release until Princess Maker Refine 1 came out in 2017 (and the Refine version of Princess Maker 2 was still released in English first).
23rd Jan '17 5:40:49 PM Argon2
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* {{Narm}}: As a result of some games being translated...imperfectly.
11th Jan '17 7:04:57 AM LondonKdS
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''good'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing Lucifon with her own hands]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom [[EvilIsCool considers it it]] as a ''good'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing Lucifon with her own hands]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.
5th Dec '16 7:27:57 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* ValuesDissonance: See the {{Squick}}y endings.

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* ValuesDissonance: See the {{Squick}}y endings.ValuesDissonance:


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** Even in the games where the daughter can have a career, it's often remarked on how she must have a husband and kids as well. i.e., in ''2'' the Gods are quite displeased if the girl either doesn't marry or doesn't have strong maternal instincts.
11th Nov '16 2:52:22 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''god'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing Lucifon himself]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: The [[https://youtu.be/X176FPyxBF0 Bondage Queen ending]] comes off as weirdly hilarious at times.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''god'' ''good'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing Lucifon himself]] with her own hands]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: The [[https://youtu.be/X176FPyxBF0 Bondage Queen ending]] comes off as weirdly hilarious at times. Specially the last line...
-->'''Daughter''': [using the "surprised" sprite] "I live a good slave, do you?"
8th Nov '16 4:03:40 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''god'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutChtulhu killing Lucifon himself]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''god'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutChtulhu [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu killing Lucifon himself]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.



** Invokved in universe. Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which happens in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] Not both.

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** Invokved Invoked in universe. Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which happens in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] Not both.
8th Nov '16 4:01:13 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* AwesomeMoments: A meta-example: following a sordid history of TroubledProduction, ''Princess Maker 2'' finally received an official English release in September of 2016. Not only was the release of the updated ''Refine'' version, but the game was released a week ahead of its original October date due to the anticipation buzzing around its finally coming overseas!

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* AwesomeMoments: SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: A meta-example: following a sordid history of TroubledProduction, ''Princess Maker 2'' finally received an official English release in September of 2016. Not only was the release of the updated ''Refine'' version, but the game was released a week ahead of its original October date due to the anticipation buzzing around its finally coming overseas!



* EsotericHappyEnding: Inverted: the [[http://princessmaker.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_of_Darkness_Ending_(PM2) Princess of Darkness ending]] is regarding as ''terrible'' stats-wise and the Gods will seriously scold the player... but the fandom considers it as a ''god'' ending story-wise since the Daughter achieved it by [[DidYouJustPunchOutChtulhu killing Lucifon himself]] and ended up getting lots of power in return.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: The [[https://youtu.be/X176FPyxBF0 Bondage Queen ending]] comes off as weirdly hilarious at times.



* HollywoodPudgy: Your daughter cannot wear the more fancy dresses when she is 'overweight'. In [=PM4=], she counts as overweight when she weighs ''50 kg'', regardless of what age she is at.

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* HollywoodPudgy: Your The daughter cannot wear the more fancy dresses when she is 'overweight'. In [=PM4=], she counts as overweight when she weighs ''50 kg'', regardless of what age she is at.



* TearJerker: Thanks to VideoGameCaringPotential, the 18th year. You get attached to your daughter, and then you're sad, either because you're wistful that you'll have to leave her behind, or you're happy for how she's turned out, or sad for her...
** On the other hand, if you allow your daughter to succumb to illness and die, you will get chewed out by her patron deity, and if you have any kind of soul, you'll feel as though you deserved it.

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* TearJerker: Thanks to VideoGameCaringPotential, the 18th year. You get The player gets attached to your the daughter, and then you're he or she is sad, either because you're he/she's wistful that you'll they'll have to leave her behind, or you're they're happy for how she's turned out, or sad for her...
** On the other hand, if you allow your ther player allows the daughter to succumb to illness and die, you they will get chewed out by her patron deity, and if you have the player has any kind of soul, you'll they'll feel as though you they'll deserved it.



** Invokved in universe. Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which takes place in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] Not both.

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** Invokved in universe. Most of the games take place in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting, and as such, the daughter can marry AND have a career. In Princess Maker 5, which takes place happens in modern Japan, [[CareerVersusMan the daughter can marry OR have a career.]] Not both.both.
** In the second game, the General's line about how girls should not just be refined but also think of what they can do to please men may not be ill-intentioned from him, but it's pretty sexist in practice.
9th Oct '16 7:03:51 AM ArcaneAzmadi
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* SequelDisplacement: If it wasn't for the obvious "2" in the title of the second game, most people wouldn't know the original ''Princess Maker'' even ''exists. Princess Maker 2'' is, in fact, the one that almost ''everyone'' thinks of when they think of the series (hence the reason it's the page pic for the main page), although this is admittedly largely because it was the only one to ever get an English language release.
27th Sep '16 10:42:06 AM superkeijikun
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* AwesomeMoments: A meta-example: following a sordid history of TroubledDevelopment, ''Princess Maker 2'' finally received an official English release in September of 2016. Not only was the release of the updated ''Refine'' version, but the game was released a week ahead of its original October date due to the anticipation buzzing around its finally coming overseas!

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* AwesomeMoments: A meta-example: following a sordid history of TroubledDevelopment, TroubledProduction, ''Princess Maker 2'' finally received an official English release in September of 2016. Not only was the release of the updated ''Refine'' version, but the game was released a week ahead of its original October date due to the anticipation buzzing around its finally coming overseas!
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