History YMMV / PokemonRubyAndSapphire

24th Sep '17 12:25:36 AM BigKlingy
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* UnderusedGameMechanic: Horde Trainer Battles. Despite trailers hyping them a fair amount, there are only ''two'' of these in the entire game (once during the Team Magma/Aqua Hideout, and once during the Delta Episode), and neither are repeatable. They're also both extremely easy due to ConservationOfNinjutsu. (Sure you fight 5 Pokemon at once, but they're all around 20 levels lower than everything else at that point)
23rd Sep '17 7:23:01 AM KamonTheSkunk
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** Juan from ''Emerald'' is really annoying to defeat primarily due to his Kingdra, similar to Clair from ''Videogame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. Except his Kingdra is much harder to defeat. This is because not only is Kingdra hard on its own since the only moves that are super effective against it are just other Dragon moves, but it knows Ice Beam, meaning that it can easily destroy any Dragon Pokémon you have, plus it knows rest and it's holding a Chesto Berry so that it can recover it's health easily without Juan using a Full Restore. Similar to Clair's Kingdra knowing Smokescreen, it knows Double Team so that you will almost never be able to strike it if you allow it to use it which is even worse than Clair because Smokescreen only affects a single Pokémon at a time while Double Team makes it hard for everyone to strike. One of the few saving graces is that it doesn't know Dragon Breath, it being replaced with Water Pulse so it has no STAB bonus moves that are strong against Dragon-types and rest replaces Hyper Beam from Clair's Kingdra.

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** Juan from ''Emerald'' is really annoying to defeat primarily due to his Kingdra, similar to Clair from ''Videogame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. Except his Kingdra is much harder to defeat. This is because not only is Kingdra hard on its own since the only moves that are super effective against it are just other Dragon moves, but it knows Ice Beam, meaning that it can easily destroy any Dragon Pokémon you have, plus might have on your team. Other things that make it knows rest and hard to defeat include it knowing Rest, while it's holding a Chesto Berry so that it can recover it's its health easily without Juan using a Full Restore.Restore right away. Similar to Clair's Kingdra knowing Smokescreen, it knows Double Team so that you will almost never be able to strike it if you allow it to use it which is even worse than Clair because Smokescreen only affects a single Pokémon at a time while Double Team makes it hard for everyone to strike. One of the few saving graces is that it doesn't know Dragon Breath, it being replaced with Water Pulse so it has no STAB bonus moves that are strong against Dragon-types and rest Rest replaces Hyper Beam from Clair's Kingdra.Kingdra. Basically, Juans' Kindra is harder to defeat because its move combination makes it both offensive and tactical.
17th Sep '17 7:29:12 AM mrbits
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** [[http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/if-ruby-and-sapphire-remakes-come-out.452842335/ UltraMario256 is a wizard/prophet/time-traveller.]]
** [[http://alvanista.com/uploads/timeline_image/2014/07/14/medium_360281_3682558502.jpg This moment from the trailer]] with Flannery went viral moments after the trailer came out.
** Mega Gallade dual-wields [[Franchise/YuGiOh Duel Disks]].
17th Sep '17 7:26:22 AM mrbits
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** Many people latched onto the Cosplay Pikachu even before the games' release. The costumes' ability to add special moves that Pikachu don't normally learn, therefore giving the mon a possible competitive edge, definitely helps.



** Team Aqua's leader Archie is pretty well liked, for being a FriendlyEnemy, while still being badass. His redesign certainly helps.
** And who could leave out the Magma Leader, Maxie? He's become rather popular due to being more of an EvilGenius, instead of a stupid villain, like he was back in the originals. His redesign also reinforces this. And he even has a bit of a {{Adorkable}} moment when he loses to you (i.e. He gets shocked as his glasses fall off, and suddenly tidying it up, followed by a smirk while hoping you didn't see that).
17th Sep '17 7:23:06 AM mrbits
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: There are some instances where Brendan/May give you the option to immediately teleport to your destination, and in one case, an event with Wally automatically brings you to your destination. While some find this [[AntiFrustrationFeatures very convenient]], others see it as unnecessary hand-holding, with the implication that the game wants you to go through it as quickly as possible instead of attempting to explore the region. However, you ''do'' have the option to say no and trek back by yourself if you do wish to explore (with the exception of Wally's event), and you stop getting such offers after you receive the Fly HM.
17th Sep '17 7:16:58 AM mrbits
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** Nearly all of the redesigns have caused debates on whether they're better, worse, or as good as the original. For example:
*** Team Aqua: Are their newly [[AmbiguouslyBrown found skin-tone]] and their new outfits/designs awesome looking and befitting of their Pirate-like nature, or are they too garish, outlandish, and silly? Similarly, what of Archie's design? Does he look better [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/omega_ruby_alpha_sapphire_archie_2631.png now]] or [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Archie_RSE_7217.png before?]]
*** Team Magma: Are their more subdued outfits a good way to contrast Team Aqua's looks? Or are they ''too'' subdued to the point that they come off as boring? Are the Admin's designs interesting and refreshing, or do they take you out of it, ''especially'' Tabitha's? Similarly, what of Maxie's design? Does he look better [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/omega_ruby_alpha_sapphire_maxie_9200.png now]] or [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Ruby_Sapphire_Maxie_1745.png before?]]
*** The Magma Grunts themselves don't help matters when in the original, they look laid back but decently menacing, while in the remakes they look like they're trying far too hard to be menacing. There are some fans who think the Magma Grunts are supposed to look goofy with their over-the-top frowns, but PoesLaw makes it hard to tell whether it's intentional or not.
*** Brendan and May: Do their new, more athletic clothes come off as more region appropriate? Or do they just look all wrong? Does May look too young/too much like Serena/[[TastesLikeDiabetes Shauna]]? Are her legs too long? Is Brendan's shirt too tight? Hair too visible and brown? Skin too tanned? ''Nose'' too invisible?
*** Wallace's more {{Stripperiffic}} design has drawn controversy. Some fans think it's unfitting because it makes him look like a cheap stripper, while others think it fits because it reflects his flamboyant nature and matches his role as a Water-type specialist.
** The game's music using a wider range of instruments instead of just the trumpets. Some fans like the added variety, while others wish [[MemeticMutation the trumpets]] were more prominent like in the original games.
** The Safari Zone being changed to be exactly like any other area when it comes to catching Pokémon. The fans are split between those who love the change and consider the normal Zone catch method to be a ScrappyMechanic and those who dislike it for making that part of the game far less special and just like a normal route.
** Wally having a Gallade. While Gallade has its fanbase and its Mega Evolution was well-received, some feel that the more motherly and protective Gardevoir was a better fit for the sickly Wally, while others feel that Gallade is better suited for his expanded and more confident personality.
** The Delta Episode has also divided fans. There are those who think it's a fantastic addition to the game, with an engaging story, and are happy that it focuses on a tragic and interesting character like Zinnia. Then there are those who think it's incredibly tedious - (not to mention the constant back and forth travels between locations, just for someone to tell you something they could have easily told you over the phone) - and that it should have focused on a character that is less irritating and creepy. [[TakeAThirdOption And some fans]] like the story, but still hate all the backtracking involved.

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** Nearly all of the redesigns have caused debates on whether they're better, worse, or as good as the original. For example:
*** Team Aqua: Are their newly [[AmbiguouslyBrown found skin-tone]] and their new outfits/designs awesome looking and befitting of their Pirate-like nature, or are they too garish, outlandish, and silly? Similarly, what of Archie's design? Does he look better [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/omega_ruby_alpha_sapphire_archie_2631.png now]] or [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Archie_RSE_7217.png before?]]
*** Team Magma: Are their more subdued outfits a good way to contrast Team Aqua's looks? Or are they ''too'' subdued to the point that they come off as boring? Are the Admin's designs interesting and refreshing, or do they take you out of it, ''especially'' Tabitha's? Similarly, what of Maxie's design? Does he look better [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/omega_ruby_alpha_sapphire_maxie_9200.png now]] or [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Ruby_Sapphire_Maxie_1745.png before?]]
*** The Magma Grunts themselves don't help matters when in the original, they look laid back but decently menacing, while in the remakes they look like they're trying far too hard to be menacing. There are some fans who think the Magma Grunts are supposed to look goofy with their over-the-top frowns, but PoesLaw makes it hard to tell whether it's intentional or not.
*** Brendan and May: Do their new, more athletic clothes come off as more region appropriate? Or do they just look all wrong? Does May look too young/too much like Serena/[[TastesLikeDiabetes Shauna]]? Are her legs too long? Is Brendan's shirt too tight? Hair too visible and brown? Skin too tanned? ''Nose'' too invisible?
*** Wallace's more {{Stripperiffic}} design has drawn controversy. Some fans think it's unfitting because it makes him look like a cheap stripper, while others think it fits because it reflects his flamboyant nature and matches his role as a Water-type specialist.
** The game's music using a wider range of instruments instead of just the trumpets. Some fans like the added variety, while others wish [[MemeticMutation the trumpets]] were more prominent like in the original games.
** The Safari Zone being changed to be exactly like any other area when it comes to catching Pokémon. The fans are split between those who love the change and consider the normal Zone catch method to be a ScrappyMechanic and those who dislike it for making that part of the game far less special and just like a normal route.
** Wally having a Gallade. While Gallade has its fanbase and its Mega Evolution was well-received, some feel that the more motherly and protective Gardevoir was a better fit for the sickly Wally, while others feel that Gallade is better suited for his expanded and more confident personality.
** The Delta Episode has also divided fans.Episode. There are those who think it's a fantastic addition to the game, with an engaging story, and are happy that it focuses on a tragic and interesting character like Zinnia. Then there are those who think it's incredibly tedious - (not to mention the constant back and forth travels between locations, just for someone to tell you something they could have easily told you over the phone) - and that it should have focused on a character that is less irritating and creepy. [[TakeAThirdOption And some fans]] like the story, but still hate all the backtracking involved.
12th Aug '17 2:13:41 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Shelly [[{{Shotacon}} and the]] [[{{Lolicon}} player character]]. Same with Matt [[AmbiguouslyBi regardless of gender]].

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** Shelly [[{{Shotacon}} and the]] [[{{Lolicon}} the player character]].character. Same with Matt [[AmbiguouslyBi regardless of gender]].



** Courtney, who seems ''incredibly'' fascinated with [[LoliconAndShotacon "analyzing"]] the player, has gathered this reputation.

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** Courtney, who seems ''incredibly'' fascinated with [[LoliconAndShotacon [[NoYay "analyzing"]] the player, has gathered this reputation.
11th Aug '17 12:18:01 PM N8han11
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** After the player deals with the primal legendary, all non-Hoenn Pokémon in the game become available, including the numerous legendaries the games boast. It's possible to fight the Elite Four with a team of level 50 legendaries (the same level as the weakest Elite Four member mind you) without doing any trading. Of course after this the Elite Four get a bunch of level ups making this not a complete game breaker.

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** After the player deals with the primal legendary, all non-Hoenn Pokémon in the game become available, including the numerous legendaries the games boast. It's possible to fight the Elite Four with a team of level 50 legendaries (the same level as the weakest Elite Four member mind you) member) without doing any trading. Of course after this the Elite Four get a bunch of level ups making this not a complete game breaker.trading.
19th Jul '17 2:06:43 PM MayIncon
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: Nothing has changed for Dark and Steel-types in this generation; Dark-type moves are assigned to Special Attack but most of them are physically inclined, while any Steel-types that don't have claws, tail or wings are screwed in the Attack department. It wasn't until the [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl next generation]] that those two types finally showed their true strength, with the Physical/Special split and more reliable STAB moves for them.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: Nothing has changed for Dark and Steel-types in this generation; Dark-type moves are assigned to Special Attack but most of them yet the ones introduced in this generation are physically inclined, mostly physically-inclined, while any Steel-types that don't have claws, tail or wings are screwed in unable to utilize their Steel STAB aside from the Attack department.possible Hidden Power. It wasn't until the [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl next generation]] that those two types finally showed their true strength, with the Physical/Special split and more reliable STAB moves for them.



** The Bicycle concept in itself. Switching Bikes requires the player to travel to Rydel's Cycles in Mauville City each time the player wishes to switch, as he/she is only allowed to take one kind of Bike (Mach Bike or Acro Bike) out at a time. Several puzzles also require a specific kind of Bike -- the Mach Bike is used to navigate across muddy slopes and cracked tiles, while the Acro Bike is needed to traverse distinctive white rails and rocky platforms. Hoenn's Safari Zone is probably one of the best examples -- one area requires the Mach Bike, while another requires the Acro Bike, meaning that the player can only visit one of them during a Safari Zone session. For the next games, they essentially combined the two bikes into one by having two speed settings. The problem was solved in the remakes by making it possible to own both bikes at once. However, you need to talk to certain [=NPCs=] first before Rydel allows you to keep both bikes. One of them is in a post game-exclusive area.

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** The Bicycle concept in itself. Switching Bikes requires the player to travel to Rydel's Cycles in Mauville City each time the player wishes to switch, as he/she is only allowed to take one kind of Bike (Mach Bike or Acro Bike) out at a time. Several puzzles also require a specific kind of Bike -- the Mach Bike is used to navigate across muddy slopes and cracked tiles, while the Acro Bike is needed to traverse distinctive white rails and rocky platforms. Hoenn's Safari Zone is probably one of the best examples -- one area requires the Mach Bike, while another requires the Acro Bike, meaning that the player can only visit one of them during a Safari Zone session. For the next games, ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', they essentially combined the two bikes into one by having two speed settings. The problem was solved in the remakes by making it possible to own both bikes at once. However, you need to talk to certain [=NPCs=] first before Rydel allows you to keep both bikes. One of them is in a post game-exclusive area.
18th Jul '17 2:50:56 PM rjd1922
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** Courtney, who seems ''incredibly'' fascinated with [[{{Shotacon}} "analy]][[{{Lolicon}} zing"]] the player, has gathered this reputation.

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** Courtney, who seems ''incredibly'' fascinated with [[{{Shotacon}} "analy]][[{{Lolicon}} zing"]] [[LoliconAndShotacon "analyzing"]] the player, has gathered this reputation.
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