History YMMV / PokemonRubyAndSapphire

20th May '17 10:52:23 PM MayIncon
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** Puzzles involving steering the difficult-to-control Mach Bike. Rare, but frustrating.



** Though a tad bit easier in the remakes, Wallace's Sootopolis Gym is full of ice tiles that must be walked upon in a specific path in order to get to the Gym Leader.

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** Though a tad bit easier in the remakes, remakes due to the Nintendo 3DS engine allowing diagonal movement, Wallace's Sootopolis Gym is full of ice tiles that must be walked upon in a specific path in order to get to the Gym Leader.Leader.
** Dungeons containing puzzles involving steering the difficult-to-control Mach Bike. Rare, but frustrating.
10th May '17 9:45:23 PM machop
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** The Battle Frontier in ''Emerald'' has their own versions of Gym Leaders, known as the Frontier Brains. While many Frontier Brains in the series aren't remembered by players who never got into the post-game, all of the Hoenn Frontier Brains are somewhat remembered (thanks to the ninth season of the anime featuring all seven of the Brains) and some of them are appreciated by hardcore/anime fans:
*** Pike Queen Lucy, of the Battle Pike, is remembered for not only having one of the most...uh...[[DistractedByTheSexy 'unique']] character designs, but was one of the most favorable anime characters to ship with Brock, as she was one of the few who actually fell for Brock in the anime. She somehow 'camoed' (as a NPC you can talk to in the Battle Maison) in the remakes.
*** Pyramid King Brandon, of the Battle Pyramid, is a fan-favorite anime character due to his personality and the fact that he finds (and owns) ancient Legendary Pokemon, and is a friend to them. Like Lucy, Brandon made ''somewhat'' of a cameo in the remakes, but as the main star of an 'ancient discovery' show ([[spoiler:that only can be accessed with the Volcanion event]]).
*** Tower Maiden Anabel, of the Battle Tower, may be hated by some for her jerk-like actions to the player, but she was another anime character that was appreciated by anime fans. On top of that, she returns in PokemonSunAndMoon and [[spoiler:its revealed that Emerald's version of Anabel is the one who appears in Sun and Moon.]]
4th May '17 7:08:48 AM rjd1922
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** Rich Boy Winston, an early game trainer who can ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill use a Full Restore on a Level 8 Zigzagoon]]'', is a common subject of jokes among the fandom. He still so does in the remakes.

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** Rich Boy Winston, an early game trainer who can ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill use a Full Restore on a Level 8 7 Zigzagoon]]'', is a common subject of jokes among the fandom. He still so does in the remakes.



* {{Misblamed}}: The one thing fans seem to remember to blame [=GameFreak=] for rather than Creator/{{Nintendo}} in the Pokémon games is the inability to transfer Pokémon from the first two generations' games to ''Ruby and Sapphire'' onward. However, this is -- coincidentally enough -- the one complaint that the company had no control over -- the GameBoyAdvance wouldn't allow interaction with the GameBoy and GameBoyColor games ''at all'', even if they wanted to make it possible.

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* {{Misblamed}}: The one thing fans seem to remember to blame [=GameFreak=] for rather than Creator/{{Nintendo}} in the Pokémon games is the inability to transfer Pokémon from the first two generations' games to ''Ruby and Sapphire'' onward. However, this is -- coincidentally enough -- the one complaint that the company had no control over -- the GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance wouldn't allow interaction with the GameBoy UsefulNotes/GameBoy and GameBoyColor UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor games ''at all'', even if they wanted to make it possible.
25th Mar '17 8:24:22 PM MayIncon
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* DisappointingLastLevel: The last quarter of the game infamously requires an immense amount of Surfing, and it doesn't help that there are virtually no distinguishing features or landmarks to help you navigate. Hope you like [[GoddamnedBats Tentacool and Wingull]]. Fortunately, the water routes are easier to traverse in the remakes.
** Made even worse by the 8th gym leader, a water trainer. Even worse on Emerald as the 8th leader is promoted to Champion while STILL being a water trainer, and a less interesting other water trainer is placed at his old position. If you picked the grass starter or you picked up a Lotad or Shroomish early on, you were probably playing on autopilot by the end.

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* DisappointingLastLevel: The last quarter of the game infamously requires an immense amount of Surfing, and it doesn't help that there are virtually no distinguishing features or landmarks to help you navigate. Hope you like [[GoddamnedBats Tentacool and Wingull]]. Fortunately, the water routes are easier to traverse in the remakes.
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remakes. Made even worse by the 8th gym leader, a water trainer. Even worse on Emerald ''Emerald'' as the 8th leader is promoted to Champion while STILL being a water trainer, and a less interesting other water trainer is placed at his old position. position while Team Aqua gets most of the villain spotlight there as well. If you picked the grass starter or you picked up a Lotad or Shroomish early on, on and Electrike for the water routes, you were probably playing on autopilot by the end.
25th Mar '17 7:08:16 AM Retloclive
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** Unlike the ''[=HeartGold and SoulSilver=] remakes that implemented the chase after Suicune from ''Crystal'', ''ORAS'' did not incorporate any of the unique plot developments from ''Emerald''. Meaning that the player never gets to face off against both Team Aqua and Team Magma, or get to challenge Hoenn's Battle Frontier.

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** Unlike the ''[=HeartGold and SoulSilver=] SoulSilver=]'' remakes that implemented the chase after Suicune from ''Crystal'', ''ORAS'' did not incorporate any of the unique plot developments from ''Emerald''. Meaning that the player never gets to face off against both Team Aqua and Team Magma, or get to challenge Hoenn's Battle Frontier.
25th Mar '17 7:07:33 AM Retloclive
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The change in ''Emerald'' to have Team Magma's main headquarters within Mount Chimney to reach Groudon at the core of the volcano made a lot more sense from a world-building perspective than the original ''Ruby'' and ''Sapphire'' games where both Groudon and Kyogre are awoken in the underwater Seafloor Cavern, which sounds like something that would only make sense for Kyogre. The game remakes instead keep to the original games where both of the legendary Pokémon are woken up by their respective evil team in the Seafloor Cavern.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** Unlike the ''[=HeartGold and SoulSilver=] remakes that implemented the chase after Suicune from ''Crystal'', ''ORAS'' did not incorporate any of the unique plot developments from ''Emerald''. Meaning that the player never gets to face off against both Team Aqua and Team Magma, or get to challenge Hoenn's Battle Frontier.
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change in ''Emerald'' to have Team Magma's main headquarters within Mount Chimney to reach Groudon at the core of the volcano made a lot more sense from a world-building perspective than the original ''Ruby'' and ''Sapphire'' games where both Groudon and Kyogre are awoken in the underwater Seafloor Cavern, which sounds like something that would only make sense for Kyogre. The game remakes instead keep to the original games where both of the legendary Pokémon are woken up by their respective evil team in the Seafloor Cavern.
22nd Mar '17 5:19:21 PM Djangou76
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** A Lass who you meet in the Trick House exclaims how much she likes [[KnifeNut hacking and slashing away]]. After you defeat her, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3AcIG_jIeo&t=3m45s she asks]] "[[Film/TheDarkKnight Why are you so serious?]]" [[https://www.youtube.com/v/VD3NbS8y6II&index=20&list=PLtaHe5yiHBiCQruPtOI3V-mnUhjKZjb5-?start=914&end=1002&autoplay=1&hl=en_US&rel=0 She retains these lines in the remakes.]]

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** A Lass who you meet in the Trick House exclaims how much she likes [[KnifeNut hacking and slashing away]]. After you defeat her, [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3AcIG_jIeo&t=3m45s she asks]] "[[Film/TheDarkKnight Why are you so serious?]]" [[https://www.youtube.com/v/VD3NbS8y6II&index=20&list=PLtaHe5yiHBiCQruPtOI3V-mnUhjKZjb5-?start=914&end=1002&autoplay=1&hl=en_US&rel=0 She retains these com/watch?v=VD3NbS8y6II&t=15m17s In the 2014 ORAS remakes,]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3NbS8y6II&t=16m28s all her lines in the remakes.]] remain unchanged.]]
22nd Mar '17 4:11:37 PM Sammettik
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** As primarily exemplified through the notice board near the entrance, Sea Mauville’s management did not value the wellbeing of their employees in the slightest, let alone ''their lives''. There’s also the implication that they were farming [[LifeEnergy Infinity Energy]], which if it still involves [[spoiler:harvesting the souls of Pokémon like the ultimate weapon]] would likely land Devon Corporation in the same boat as they’re still doing it as well.

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** As primarily exemplified through the notice board near the entrance, Sea Mauville’s management did were so hellbent on getting their hands on the [[LifeEnergy Infinity Energy]]-filled deep-sea minerals that had made Devon such a rich company, they worked their employees to exhaustion and insanity, not value caring for the wellbeing of their employees in the slightest, let alone ''their lives''. There’s They also the implication that they were farming [[LifeEnergy Infinity Energy]], didn't balk at tearing through Pokemon habitats to get at their goal, which if it still involves [[spoiler:harvesting is what ultimately got the souls of Pokémon like the ultimate weapon]] would likely land Devon Corporation in the same boat as they’re still doing it as well.project pulled.
6th Mar '17 9:28:38 PM MayIncon
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** Juan from ''Emerald'' is really annoying to defeat primarily due to his Kingra, similar to Clair from ''Videogame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. Except his Kingdra is much harder to defeat. This is because not only is Kindra hard on its own since the only moves that are super effective against it are just other dragon moves, but it knows ice beam, meaning that it can easily destroy any dragon Pokémon you have, plus it knows rest and it's holding a Chesto berry so that it can recover it's health easily without Juan using a full restore. Similar to Clair's Kingdra knowing smokescreen, it knows double team so that you will almost never be able to strike it if you allow it to use it which is even worse than Clair because smokescreen only affects a single Pokémon at a time while double team makes it hard for everyone to strike. One of the few saving graces is that it doesn't know Dragon Breath, it being replaced with Water Pulse so it has no STAB bonus moves that are strong against dragon types and rest replaces hyper beam from Clair's Kingdra.

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** Juan from ''Emerald'' is really annoying to defeat primarily due to his Kingra, Kingdra, similar to Clair from ''Videogame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. Except his Kingdra is much harder to defeat. This is because not only is Kindra Kingdra hard on its own since the only moves that are super effective against it are just other dragon Dragon moves, but it knows ice beam, Ice Beam, meaning that it can easily destroy any dragon Dragon Pokémon you have, plus it knows rest and it's holding a Chesto berry Berry so that it can recover it's health easily without Juan using a full restore. Full Restore. Similar to Clair's Kingdra knowing smokescreen, Smokescreen, it knows double team Double Team so that you will almost never be able to strike it if you allow it to use it which is even worse than Clair because smokescreen Smokescreen only affects a single Pokémon at a time while double team Double Team makes it hard for everyone to strike. One of the few saving graces is that it doesn't know Dragon Breath, it being replaced with Water Pulse so it has no STAB bonus moves that are strong against dragon types Dragon-types and rest replaces hyper beam Hyper Beam from Clair's Kingdra.
6th Mar '17 7:29:53 AM KamonTheSkunk
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** Juan from ''Emerald'' is really annoying to defeat primarily due to his Kingra, similar to Clair from ''Videogame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. Except his Kingdra is much harder to defeat. This is because not only is Kindra hard on its own since the only moves that are super effective against it are just other dragon moves, but it knows ice beam, meaning that it can easily destroy any dragon Pokémon you have, plus it knows rest and it's holding a Chesto berry so that it can recover it's health easily without Juan using a full restore. Similar to Clair's Kingdra knowing smokescreen, it knows double team so that you will almost never be able to strike it if you allow it to use it which is even worse than Clair because smokescreen only affects a single Pokémon at a time while double team makes it hard for everyone to strike. One of the few saving graces is that it doesn't know Dragon Breath, it being replaced with Water Pulse so it has no STAB bonus moves that are strong against dragon types and rest replaces hyper beam from Clair's Kingdra.
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