History YMMV / Pokemon

5th Dec '16 8:43:08 AM N8han11
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*** Except that in the Gen V games, the people who hold this view are ''the villains'', who are counting on the fact that the people in the series really are genuinely good, and are all too likely to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone take to heart]] the WhatTheHellHero speeches they give, despite said villains not really caring about Pokemon welfare at all, plus knowing that the trainers they talk down to treat Pokémon very kindly.
4th Dec '16 12:01:01 PM Butter
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** Persian was an amazing Pokémon in Generation I, due to the way game mechanics worked back then. Critical hit probability was based on Speed, and thus Persian's STAB Slash would score a critical every time. And in those days, if Hyper Beam KO'd something, the user didn't need to take a recharge turn, so Person could use STAB Hyper Beams to finish off foes with no drawback. Toss in Thunderbolt and Bubblebeam for coverage, and it was deadly. Then Generation II's revamped critical hit mechanics and ''always'' needing to recharge from Hyper Beam meant Persian's Badassery decayed like acid.

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** Persian was an amazing Pokémon in Generation I, due to the way game mechanics worked back then. Critical hit probability was based on Speed, and thus Persian's STAB Slash would score a critical every time. And in those days, if Hyper Beam KO'd something, the user didn't need to take a recharge turn, so Person Persian could use STAB Hyper Beams to finish off foes with no drawback. Toss in Thunderbolt and Bubblebeam for coverage, and it was deadly. Then Generation II's revamped critical hit mechanics and ''always'' needing to recharge from Hyper Beam meant Persian's Badassery decayed like acid.
4th Dec '16 8:29:03 AM WhatArtThee
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** Ask anyone over the age of 40 about ''Pokémon''. They'll most likely answer something like "''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''? Isn't it that [[NoBudget cheap]] [[AnimationAgeGhetto kids']] cartoon [[FirstInstallmentWins from the '90s]] about [[SeriesMascot cute little monsters]]?" And since MostWritersAreAdults, most mainstream parodies of ''Pokémon'' are either based fully or partially on the early anime, which makes things like the Arceus reference in ''Series/{{House}}'' and ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'''s one ''Pokémon'' reference ever being to the "[[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon cards]]" a bit surprising. Note, however, that this reputation is slowly changing, with [=TPCi's=] own attempts to "mainstream" the games in the west, as the current, game-based fans are themselves becoming the older generation, and as the anime continues on with its FranchiseZombie status despite the quality of the series going up and down.

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** Ask anyone over the age of 40 about ''Pokémon''. They'll most likely answer something like "''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''? Isn't it that [[NoBudget cheap]] [[AnimationAgeGhetto kids']] cartoon [[FirstInstallmentWins from the '90s]] about [[SeriesMascot cute little monsters]]?" And since MostWritersAreAdults, most mainstream parodies of ''Pokémon'' are either based fully or partially on the early anime, which makes things like the Arceus reference in ''Series/{{House}}'' and ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'''s one ''Pokémon'' reference ever being to the "[[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon cards]]" a bit surprising. Note, however, that this reputation is slowly changing, with [=TPCi's=] own attempts to "mainstream" the games in the west, as the current, game-based fans are themselves becoming the older generation, and as the anime continues on with its FranchiseZombie status despite the quality of the series going up and down.generation.
3rd Dec '16 11:20:57 PM Octorok103
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** Gen VII pushed the envelope even more with the Popplio line. While Popplio itself has a fairly gender-neutral appearance, Brionne is pretty feminine and cutesy, and Primarina looks about as male as Gardevoir. However, just like all the other starters, they still only have a one-in-eight chance of being female.
2nd Dec '16 8:13:10 PM flamemario12
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** It was made possible to catch wild Gengar in Pokémon ''Platinum'' after a stunt was pulled in ''Diamond and Pearl'' where an in-game trade offered a Haunter for a Medicham, but didn't evolve into Gengar after the trade, because it was [[{{Troll}} holding an Everstone]].
2nd Dec '16 10:34:54 AM mrbits
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* SeasonalRot: Every main series game released from ''Gold and Silver'' onwards has become a lot more divisive. It seems that every new mechanic and Pokémon Game Freak introduces becomes more and more [[BrokenBase base-breaking]] by the second. It has gotten to the point where some people are saying that the games should have ended at a specific generation ([[FirstInstallmentWins usually Generation I]]).
2nd Dec '16 9:16:06 AM Togie
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* SeasonalRot: Every main series game released from ''Gold and Silver'' onwards has become a lot more divisive. It seems that every new mechanic and Pokémon Game Freak introduces becomes more and more [[BrokenBase base-breaking]] by the second. It has gotten to the point where some people are saying that the games should have ended at a specific generation ([[FirstInstallmentWins usually Generation I]]).
25th Nov '16 7:16:09 AM Retloclive
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** It was made possible to catch wild Gengar in Pokémon ''Platinum'' after a stunt was pulled in ''Diamond and Pearl'' where an in-game trade offered a Haunter for a Medicham, but didn't evolve into Gengar after the trade, because it was [{{Troll}} holding an Everstone]].

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** It was made possible to catch wild Gengar in Pokémon ''Platinum'' after a stunt was pulled in ''Diamond and Pearl'' where an in-game trade offered a Haunter for a Medicham, but didn't evolve into Gengar after the trade, because it was [{{Troll}} [[{{Troll}} holding an Everstone]].
25th Nov '16 7:15:49 AM Retloclive
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Dewpider-Araquanid and Wimpod-Golisopod lines of Gen VII could be seen as such as an apology for Gen III's mishap where the uniquely typed Bug/Water Pokémon, Surskit, ended up evolving into yet ''another'' Bug/Flying Pokémon, Masquerain.

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** It was made possible to catch wild Gengar in Pokémon ''Platinum'' after a stunt was pulled in ''Diamond and Pearl'' where an in-game trade offered a Haunter for a Medicham, but didn't evolve into Gengar after the trade, because it was [{{Troll}} holding an Everstone]].
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The Dewpider-Araquanid and Wimpod-Golisopod lines of Gen VII could be seen as such as an apology for Gen III's mishap where the uniquely typed Bug/Water Pokémon, Surskit, ended up evolving into yet ''another'' Bug/Flying Pokémon, Masquerain.
24th Nov '16 11:07:08 PM NotHaryanto
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** On a similar note, one could nickname their Golem "Kurt Cobain" and teach it Explosion as well. Works best with suicide leads in the metagame.
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