History YMMV / Pokemon

19th Mar '17 2:20:47 AM flamemario12
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* GameBreaker: Trainer cards often had game-changing effects, leading to the eventual "Prop-15" that limited the number of trainers one could use in their deck. With the Diamond and Pearl expansion, a handful of the old Trainer cards have been remade as "Supporter" cards, a class of trainer card that you can only use one of per turn. Pokemon Breeder (skip an evolution stage) and most card-drawing or deck-searching cards especially.** In addition, many players considered the Darkness and Metal types as this when they were first introduced in ''Neo Genesis.'' One such Dark type card, ''Sneasel,'' was actually banned for a brief period due to being obscenely overpowered, capable of doing a maximum of 140 damage in as little as two turns if you were really lucky. Also, prior to the release of the ''Diamond and Pearl'' expansion, Darkness and Metal Energy were both Special Energy cards, making the Pokémon they were attached to even ''more'' powerful.
** The new Pokemon Tool Cards are also incredibly overpowered. One such card, the Expert Belt, gives plus 20 attack and plus 20 health to anything it is attached to. There is no penalty for using it and you can have up to four in a deck. Oh and did I mention that the plus 20 damage is applied [+before+] weakness?
*** The Expert Belt allows the opponent to take 2 Prize cards instead of 1 for knocking out that Pokémon. That's the penalty. It's arguably a small one considering an Expert Belt can cause a snowballing advantage in your favor, however.

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* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
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Trainer cards often had game-changing effects, leading to the eventual "Prop-15" that limited the number of trainers one could use in their deck. With the Diamond and Pearl expansion, a handful of the old Trainer cards have been remade as "Supporter" cards, a class of trainer card that you can only use one of per turn. Pokemon Breeder (skip an evolution stage) and most card-drawing or deck-searching cards especially.especially.
** In addition, many players considered the Darkness and Metal types as this when they were first introduced in ''Neo Genesis.'' One such Dark type card, ''Sneasel,'' was actually banned for a brief period due to being obscenely overpowered, capable of doing a maximum of 140 damage in as little as two turns if you were really lucky. Also, prior to the release of the ''Diamond and Pearl'' expansion, Darkness and Metal Energy were both Special Energy cards, making the Pokémon they were attached to even ''more'' powerful.
** The new Pokemon Tool Cards are also incredibly overpowered. One such card, the Expert Belt, gives plus 20 attack (before applying weakness) and plus 20 health to anything it is attached to. There is no The only penalty for using it and you can have up to four in a deck. Oh and did I mention is that the plus 20 damage is applied [+before+] weakness?
*** The Expert Belt
it allows the opponent to take 2 Prize cards instead of 1 for knocking out that Pokémon. That's the penalty. It's arguably a small one considering an Expert Belt can cause a snowballing advantage in your favor, however.
13th Mar '17 12:26:32 PM N8han11
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** Fans ''love'' to rag on the newer Pokémon designs because they're either lazy or just plain uninspired. What they fail to realize, however, is that the franchise has been guilty of this since its inception, and the Pokémon that can easily fall under this category are still adored by those same haters despite this. In Generation I alone, we have [[SarcasmMode such wonderfully designed]] Pokémon like [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Geodude_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a rock with a face and arms]], [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magnemite_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a magnet]], [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grimer_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a pile of sludge]], [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gastly_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a literal ball of gas]], [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Voltorb_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a Poké Ball with eyes]] with its evolved form being [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Electrode_(Pok%C3%A9mon) the exact same thing but flipped upside down]], and [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ditto_(Pok%C3%A9mon) a big glob of slime]].
12th Mar '17 4:13:02 PM NightShade96
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* ViewerGenderConfusion:
** Although often thought of as male (mostly because of its telepathic voice in the anime and in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee''), Mewtwo is officially "genderless" . This applies to most legendaries as well (even the ''very'' female-looking Meloetta).
*** For the most part, this only affects a couple of abilities and attacks (most dealing with infatuation), along with breeding purposes. Perhaps mons like Mewtwo simply aren't impressed by love?
** Mew. Like Mewtwo. While it doesn't speak, its cute, pink design and the fact that it is referred to as "giving birth" is enough (completely reasonably) to cause a large number of fans to think of it as female. (A small number of fans also think of it as male due to the masculinity of its clone and also due to its [[Creator/KoichiYamadera voice actor]].)
** Chikorita. The most feminine-looking of the starters, but they have the standard gender ratio of seven males to one female. Its depiction in the anime and the names Chiko'''rita''' and '''Megan'''ium doesn't help either.
** Gen VI introduced Fennekin, which like Eevee looks pretty androgynous, but evolves into Braixen and Delphox, whose designs are like Mismagius in that they are very obviously based on witches. Braixen in particular bears heavy resemblance to a MagicalGirl.
** Gen VII pushed the envelope even more with the Popplio line. While Popplio itself has a fairly gender-neutral appearance, Brionne is pretty feminine and cutesy, and Primarina looks about as male as Gardevoir. However, just like all the other starters, they still only have a one-in-eight chance of being female.
** Like Mewtwo, genderless Darkrai is often referred to as male because of its telepathic voice in the anime, and because its counterpart Cresselia is female. Even the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai_(movie_10) dubbers of the tenth movie]] were not immune, although [[KnightOfCerebus Darkrai]] is clearly labeled as male (along with other legendaries) in the ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' series.
** Despite the fact that some legendaries have genders (and can be female), Meloetta, the most feminine-looking Legendary ''of all time'', is genderless like most other legendaries.
** Despite their names, Slowbro, Kingler, Goldeen, Seaking, and Mr. Mime can be of either sex, but since they were introduced before the introduction of gender mechanics, it can't really be helped. Slowking, Kingdra, and Slaking, however, were introduced alongside or after gender mechanics. Though Slaking was saved -- at least somewhat so -- for those who recognised the pun behind the name.
*** Some of those can be blamed on DubInducedPlothole, since their original names didn't mention a gender, like Mr. Mime being Barrierd. Not all though, most notably Slowking, who was already Yado'''king''' in Japan despite being introduced on the generation that also introduced genders. That, and it evolves with a King's Rock.
** Eevee is often referred to as a girl, at least partially due to its name, as is anything it evolves into, despite seven-eighths of them being male. Sylveon is particularly feminine in appearance.
*** General agreement is this: Flareon, Jolteon, and Umbreon lean more toward masculine, while Vaporeon, Leafeon, Glaceon, Espeon, and Sylveon lean more toward feminine.
** Reshiram and Zekrom are genderless, but both of them have masculine voices in the anime, which undoubtedly means they'll be referred to (and thought of) as male. Adding to this confusion, both of them are also thought of as female on occasion; Reshiram has a feminine design according to WordOfGod, while Zekrom has wide hips and also represents ''yin'', which is feminine in mythology (although the latter is being mitigated by Game Freak attempting to [[RatedMForManly show that Zekrom is the manliest Pokémon ever]]).
** Ash's Pikachu was struck with the biggest case of this, with heated debate over its gender until it was finally confirmed as male 15 years after its debut.
** Both Gardevoir and Gothitelle wear "dresses" but can be male. In a similar vein, Lopunny looks a lot like a Playboy Bunny, yet 50% of them are male.
*** For more fuel, Gothitelle is the evolution of Gothorita, the evolution of Gothita. As in ElegantGothicLolita. And they have a 25% chance of being male.
*** On top of that, the only Gothorita with Shadow Tag released in Gen V was always male, so you would only ever see male Gothitelle in Wi-Fi battles.
** Would you believe that Granbull is in fact female ''75% of the time??'' Its pre-evolution being [[PinkMeansFeminine pink]] probably has something to do with it.
** Meowstic comes in both male and female forms, which some people tend to mix up. Both look like feminine cats, but the male leans slightly more into stereotypically feminine in both move pool and looks. The female probably wouldn't be mistaken for male as much if she were not the same Pokemon as him.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion:
** Although often thought of as male (mostly because of
ViewerGenderConfusion: Has [[ViewerGenderConfusion/{{Pokemon}} its telepathic voice in the anime and in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee''), Mewtwo is officially "genderless" . This applies to most legendaries as well (even the ''very'' female-looking Meloetta).
*** For the most part, this only affects a couple of abilities and attacks (most dealing with infatuation), along with breeding purposes. Perhaps mons like Mewtwo simply aren't impressed by love?
** Mew. Like Mewtwo. While it doesn't speak, its cute, pink design and the fact that it is referred to as "giving birth" is enough (completely reasonably) to cause a large number of fans to think of it as female. (A small number of fans also think of it as male due to the masculinity of its clone and also due to its [[Creator/KoichiYamadera voice actor]].)
** Chikorita. The most feminine-looking of the starters, but they have the standard gender ratio of seven males to one female. Its depiction in the anime and the names Chiko'''rita''' and '''Megan'''ium doesn't help either.
** Gen VI introduced Fennekin, which like Eevee looks pretty androgynous, but evolves into Braixen and Delphox, whose designs are like Mismagius in that they are very obviously based on witches. Braixen in particular bears heavy resemblance to a MagicalGirl.
** Gen VII pushed the envelope even more with the Popplio line. While Popplio itself has a fairly gender-neutral appearance, Brionne is pretty feminine and cutesy, and Primarina looks about as male as Gardevoir. However, just like all the other starters, they still only have a one-in-eight chance of being female.
** Like Mewtwo, genderless Darkrai is often referred to as male because of its telepathic voice in the anime, and because its counterpart Cresselia is female. Even the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai_(movie_10) dubbers of the tenth movie]] were not immune, although [[KnightOfCerebus Darkrai]] is clearly labeled as male (along with other legendaries) in the ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' series.
** Despite the fact that some legendaries have genders (and can be female), Meloetta, the most feminine-looking Legendary ''of all time'', is genderless like most other legendaries.
** Despite their names, Slowbro, Kingler, Goldeen, Seaking, and Mr. Mime can be of either sex, but since they were introduced before the introduction of gender mechanics, it can't really be helped. Slowking, Kingdra, and Slaking, however, were introduced alongside or after gender mechanics. Though Slaking was saved -- at least somewhat so -- for those who recognised the pun behind the name.
*** Some of those can be blamed on DubInducedPlothole, since their original names didn't mention a gender, like Mr. Mime being Barrierd. Not all though, most notably Slowking, who was already Yado'''king''' in Japan despite being introduced on the generation that also introduced genders. That, and it evolves with a King's Rock.
** Eevee is often referred to as a girl, at least partially due to its name, as is anything it evolves into, despite seven-eighths of them being male. Sylveon is particularly feminine in appearance.
*** General agreement is this: Flareon, Jolteon, and Umbreon lean more toward masculine, while Vaporeon, Leafeon, Glaceon, Espeon, and Sylveon lean more toward feminine.
** Reshiram and Zekrom are genderless, but both of them have masculine voices in the anime, which undoubtedly means they'll be referred to (and thought of) as male. Adding to this confusion, both of them are also thought of as female on occasion; Reshiram has a feminine design according to WordOfGod, while Zekrom has wide hips and also represents ''yin'', which is feminine in mythology (although the latter is being mitigated by Game Freak attempting to [[RatedMForManly show that Zekrom is the manliest Pokémon ever]]).
** Ash's Pikachu was struck with the biggest case of this, with heated debate over its gender until it was finally confirmed as male 15 years after its debut.
** Both Gardevoir and Gothitelle wear "dresses" but can be male. In a similar vein, Lopunny looks a lot like a Playboy Bunny, yet 50% of them are male.
*** For more fuel, Gothitelle is the evolution of Gothorita, the evolution of Gothita. As in ElegantGothicLolita. And they have a 25% chance of being male.
*** On top of that, the only Gothorita with Shadow Tag released in Gen V was always male, so you would only ever see male Gothitelle in Wi-Fi battles.
** Would you believe that Granbull is in fact female ''75% of the time??'' Its pre-evolution being [[PinkMeansFeminine pink]] probably has something to do with it.
** Meowstic comes in both male and female forms, which some people tend to mix up. Both look like feminine cats, but the male leans slightly more into stereotypically feminine in both move pool and looks. The female probably wouldn't be mistaken for male as much if she were not the same Pokemon as him.
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8th Mar '17 12:58:40 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise: The Viridian Forest, Mt. Moon, Lavender Town, and Pokémon Tower themes were potent examples of NightmareFuel back in the day. To the relief of many who wanted to enjoy the nostalgia of the ''positive'' parts of their childhoods, the former three got prettied- and cutesied-up in ''[=Gold/Silver=]'', and the latter didn't show up at all. And outside of those, the series is rife with examples -- for example, everyone has some Pokémon cry that would grind on him or her, be it because it belongs to GoddamnedBats, DemonicSpiders, or otherwise.
5th Mar '17 1:42:11 AM Sammettik
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* {{Narm}}: The change from "[Trainer] wants to battle!" to "[Trainer] would like to battle!]" in the Gen. 3 games. Sure, it's more polite, but it sounds ''ridiculous'' when said trainer is someone from Team Rocket or Cipher.
4th Mar '17 4:01:01 AM MayIncon
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* ''[[YMMV/PokemonAdventures]]''

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* ''[[YMMV/PokemonAdventures]]''''YMMV/PokemonAdventures''
4th Mar '17 4:00:44 AM MayIncon
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* ''[[YMMV/PokemonSpecial Special]]''

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* ''YMMV/TheElectricTaleOfPikachu''
3rd Mar '17 9:36:37 PM MayIncon
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* ''YMMV/PokkenTournament''
10th Feb '17 2:28:22 AM JustaUsername
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** The franchise is also a noticeable hit with the [[PopularWithFurries furry fandom]], with high amounts of fan art from the fandom and it not being a rare sight for a furry to use a Pokemon species for their fursona.
1st Feb '17 6:07:21 AM SpinAttaxx
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** Any time a mechanic or content featured in the tail-end game(s) of a generation (such as Move Tutors that teach a wider variety of moves or a greater/more readily-accessible amount of Mega Evolutions) is removed from the first two games of the next one, often only to be added back in when that gen's tail-end games are released. Some defend this practice as Game Freak has to convince people to buy the next games somehow, and it gives them the opportunity to improvve on the first two. Others find it to be an egregious case of planned obsolesence (why bother buying the first two games when there'll always be an UpdatedRerelease or [[{{Sequel}} rough]] [[VideoGameRemake equivalent]] that'll be more fulfilling?), and point out that taking something out of a game only to add it back into a new game later on does not an improvement make.

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** Any time a mechanic or content featured in the tail-end game(s) of a generation (such as Move Tutors that teach a wider variety of moves or a greater/more readily-accessible amount of Mega Evolutions) is removed from the first two games of the next one, often only to be added back in when that gen's tail-end games are released. Some defend this practice as Game Freak has to convince people to buy the next games somehow, and it gives them the opportunity to improvve improve on the first two. Others find it to be an egregious case of planned obsolesence (why bother buying the first two games when there'll always be an UpdatedRerelease or [[{{Sequel}} rough]] [[VideoGameRemake equivalent]] that'll be have more fulfilling?), things in it?), and point out that taking something out of a game only to add it back into a new game later on does not an improvement make.
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