Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
** Not so, the book noted that many girls were scolded for being whorish even in the case of one girl who was disabled.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
"R*t*rded" is an offensive slur
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
** Not so, the book noted that many girls were scolded for being whorish even in the case of one girl who was retarded.
to:
** Not so, the book noted that many girls were scolded for being whorish even in the case of one girl who was retarded.disabled.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 5 (click to see context) :
* HilariousInHindsight: Sister Hildegard is played by veteran actress Barbara Jefford. In the 1968 film, ''The Shoes of the Fisherman'', Jefford played a physician who has an encounter with the (fictional) [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope]] himself and asks for his views about her marriage problems.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HilariousInHindsight: Sister Hildegard is played by veteran actress Barbara Jefford. In the 1968 film, ''The Shoes of the Fisherman'', Jefford played a physician who has an encounter with the (fictional) [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope]] himself and asks for his views about her marriage problems.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 3 (click to see context) :
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Martin's TheReasonYouSuck speech to Sister Hildegard.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Martin's TheReasonYouSuck speech to Sister Hildegard.
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[spoiler: Anthony/Michael]].
to:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[spoiler: Anthony/Michael]].Anthony/Michael]].
----
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* GeniusBonus: The fact that in 2004, the youngest nun is a young black immigrant woman whereas in flashbacks, all the nuns, young and old, are white Irish. Few people who aren’t Irish would recognise the truth of this: since the 1990s, fewer and fewer Irish-born people are joining the church.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
not a trope
Deleted line(s) 4 (click to see context) :
* FlameBait: Some Catholics were not very happy with the portrayal of the adoption agency in this movie, seeing it as a hateful attack on their religion. On the other hand the real Philomena, herself a Catholic, insisted that she saw no such agenda in the film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HarsherInHindsight: Since the release of the film attention on the Catholic Church in Ireland and their handling of young mothers and their children intensified; Irish historian Catherine Corless was responsible [[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/07/catholic-church-children-buried-at-tuam-ireland for the discovery of a horrific mass grave]], having pursued the death certificates for a number of children. By contrast, heartbreaking as Philomena and Anthony/Michael's plight is, they were vaguely ''lucky'' by comparison.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* FlameBait: Some Catholics were not very happy with the portrayal of the adoption agency in this movie, seeing it as a hateful attack on their religion. On the other hand the real Philomena, herself a Catholic, insisted that she saw no such agenda.
to:
* FlameBait: Some Catholics were not very happy with the portrayal of the adoption agency in this movie, seeing it as a hateful attack on their religion. On the other hand the real Philomena, herself a Catholic, insisted that she saw no such agenda.agenda in the film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FlameBait: Some Catholics were not very happy with the portrayal of the adoption agency in this movie, seeing it as a hateful attack on their religion. On the other hand the real Philomena, herself a Catholic, insisted that she saw no such agenda.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 4,5 (click to see context) :
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/GameOfThrones Catelyn Stark]] is Martin's editor.
** [[Film/TheParoleOfficer Officer Simon Garden]] had grown old but he still tells awkward jokes digs trivia.
** [[Film/TheParoleOfficer Officer Simon Garden]] had grown old but he still tells awkward jokes digs trivia.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
[[spoiler:---> '''Philomena:''' That's him, that's my Anthony. He's dead, isn't he?]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TearJerker: Philomena sobbing as she helplessly watches Anthony get taken away.
** [[spoiler:Martin finding out that Anthony/Michael is dead, and Philomena's reaction to it.]]
[[spoiler:---> '''Philomena:''' That's him, that's my Anthony. He's dead, isn't he?]]
** [[spoiler:Martin finding out that Anthony/Michael is dead, and Philomena's reaction to it.]]
[[spoiler:---> '''Philomena:''' That's him, that's my Anthony. He's dead, isn't he?]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Martin's TheReasonYouSuck speech to Sister Hildegard.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Not so, the book noted that many girls were scolded for being whorish even in the case of one girl who was retarded.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[GameOfThrones Catelyn Stark]] is Martin's editor.
to:
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[GameOfThrones [[Series/GameOfThrones Catelyn Stark]] is Martin's editor.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: When Sister Hildegard asked Philomena if she had pulled down her knickers, was she simply trying to confirm that Philomena had engaged in sexual relations and thus was pregnant? Or was she trying to figure out whether Philomena had engaged in sex consensually (by pulling down her own knickers), or if it was coerced (if the "lovable rogue" who sired her baby had pulled them himself, it may not have been entirely consensual) and thus Philomena would merit a lesser penalty and possibly prosecution of the baby's father.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* [[Film/TheParoleOfficer officer Simon Garden]] had grown old but he still tells awkward jokes digs trivia.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* [[Film/TheParoleOfficer officer Simon Garden]] had grown old but he still tells awkward jokes digs trivia.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] Or [[spoiler: Sister Hildegard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth because the babies were conceived out of wedlock?]] Take your pick.
to:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach breech birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] Or [[spoiler: Sister Hildegard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth because the babies were conceived out of wedlock?]] Take your pick.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the Nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] or [[spoiler: Sister Hildegard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth cause the babies were conceived out of wedlock]] Take your pick
to:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the Nuns nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] or Or [[spoiler: Sister Hildegard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth cause because the babies were conceived out of wedlock]] wedlock?]] Take your pickpick.
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[spoiler: Anthony/Michael]]
to:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[spoiler: Anthony/Michael]]Anthony/Michael]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[GameOfThrones Catelyn Stark]] is Martin's editor.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the Nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] or [[spoiler: Sister Hildebard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth cause the babies were conceived out of wedlock]] Take your pick
to:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the Nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] or [[spoiler: Sister Hildebard Hildegard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth cause the babies were conceived out of wedlock]] Take your pick
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Cut for having no context; if anyone wants to re-add, discuss it here
first.
first.Deleted line(s) 1 (click to see context) :
* CompleteMonster: Sister Hildegard
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* MoralEventHorizon: Is it the Nuns denying Philomena medical attention or pain relief during her breach birth? [[spoiler: Knowing both she and her son were looking for each other but lying to Philomena that they don't know where he is and to Michael - a dying man - that his mother abandoned him and is untraceable?]] or [[spoiler: Sister Hildebard defending and showing no remorse for the avoidable deaths of mothers - some as young as 14 - and babies in childbirth cause the babies were conceived out of wedlock]] Take your pick
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[Anthony/Michael]]
to:
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[Anthony/Michael]][[spoiler: Anthony/Michael]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CompleteMonster: Sister Hildegard
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[Anthony/Michael]]
* TheWoobie: Philomena and [[Anthony/Michael]]
