History YMMV / Persona2

1st Oct '17 12:33:20 AM finalsurvivor1
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* SignatureScene: The finale of ''Innocent Sin'', particularly the boss fight with Hitler, which is on the level of fighting YHVH in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', and to a slightly lesser extent, [[spoiler:Okamura killing Maya, resulting in Nyarlathotep destroying the world and the setup for ''Eternal Punishment'']].
24th Sep '17 9:38:20 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[EvilOldFolks Tatsuzuo Sudou]], from ''Eternal Punishment'', is the [[CorruptPolitician Japanese Foreign Minister]] and leader of the New World Order, a cult planning to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence reach the world of the Gods]]. Tatsuzuo, however, has more selfish ambitions. Using his own group to conduct crimes, which include framing the father of two of the main characters; unethical experiments resulting in humans turning into monsters; and attempted murder to Baofu, which resulted in his assistant's death, he furthers the ambition of New World Order while hiding it from the public. To that end he also sends his [[AxCrazy insane son Tatsuya Sudou]] to a mental hospital in order to lock him up from the public eye, and when he finds out he escaped sends the Taiwanese Mafia to kill him. Once the New World Order succeeds in their goal in activating a spaceship to use to reach God, this also causes the world outside the spaceship, which is the city they reside in, to be in danger from a natural disaster that can wipe out humanity, something Tatsuzuo is aware of. After reaching this far, Tatsuzuo [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness betrays his loyal companions]] by mutating or killing them, while sending out demons to take down the heroes.
10th Aug '17 11:07:34 PM defciggy
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** Given how Innocent Sin's class and students lavish over Tatsuya repeatedly despite Tatsuya doing nothing to warrant any of it; it's highly possible that Tatsuya's status is because he's the victim of rumors swirling around about him.

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** Given how Innocent Sin's ''Innocent Sin's'' class and students lavish over Tatsuya repeatedly despite Tatsuya doing nothing to warrant any of it; it's highly possible that Tatsuya's status is because he's the victim of rumors swirling around about him.



* AwesomeEgo: For most of Innocent Sin Eikichi Mishina would happily talk about how awesome he is, and most of the fans of the game would agree.

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* AwesomeEgo: For most of Innocent Sin ''Innocent Sin'' Eikichi Mishina would happily talk about how awesome he is, and most of the fans of the game would agree.



** While this may be the one Persona game without a single [[TheScrappy scrappy]], [[DreadfulMusician Eikichi]] and [[{{Adorkable}} Katsuya]] are absolutely ''adored'' by the fandom, to the point that the idea of them returning as DLC or in a sequel to ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' has them ''stoked''.

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** While this may be the one Persona ''Persona'' game without a single [[TheScrappy scrappy]], [[DreadfulMusician Eikichi]] and [[{{Adorkable}} Katsuya]] are absolutely ''adored'' by the fandom, to the point that the idea of them returning as DLC or in a sequel to ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' has them ''stoked''.



* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio + Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage to multiple enemies ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.

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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio + Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as at level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage to multiple enemies ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.



* MagnificentBastard: Nyarlathotep, of course. He sets the board up to his advantage, his plans have such style, and his manipulations so meticulous and cunning that [[spoiler: he's the only Persona God to actually ''win''.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: Nyarlathotep, of course. He sets the board up to his advantage, his plans have such style, and his manipulations so meticulous and cunning that [[spoiler: he's the only Persona God ''Persona'' god to actually ''win''.]]



** Tatsuya's talent in SFX-imitating, as lampshaded in the drama CD.

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** Tatsuya's talent in SFX-imitating, as lampshaded in the drama CD. Fans took it and ''ran with it''.



* ThatOneBoss: The FinalBoss of Innocent Sin, Great Father [[spoiler: Nyarlathotep]]. He can launch five attacks in one turn and will pretty much annihilate you unless you're at a high level. In Eternal Punishment [[spoiler: the Metal Trio]]. They don't have much HP, but they're immune to physical damage all have really strong attacks that hit your whole party.
** ThatOneAttack: One of the Bolontiku in Innocent Sin and [[spoiler: Metal Jun ]] in Eternal Punishment have an attack in their respective games called "Terror Fortune" which deals moderately high [[BlowYouAway Wind]] and [[CastingAShadow Dark damage]] to the entire party, which isn't so bad. The problem is that it [[FromBadToWorse ALSO]] inflicts [[StandardStatusEffects random ailments on your party]], including [[InstantKO instant death]]. Have fun keeping your party alive...
** Old Maid in Eternal Punishment is no fun either. It's a spell that turns one of the character's persona into Joker. When this happens, if you don't immediately abort your battle and defend, it will do some decent damage to the party. What makes this spell a real pain in the ass is that Joker battles tend to have the joker in question spam the spell repeatedly, dragging the battle out.
* ThatOneSidequest: The cartography (map-making) sidequest in Eternal Punishment involves a LOT of running around every square inch of a dungeon, probably doing one or two of the dungeon's puzzles (like the Secret Lab's Fuse Box puzzle), walking over all the traps and pitfalls, and generous use of the Estoma spell. It's not fun and it can be draining. And if Salam didn't offer up a King's Ransom for his requests (for an equivalent, think of the rewards on par with [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Chocobo Hot and Cold]]); nobody would willingly do it.

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* ThatOneBoss: The FinalBoss of Innocent Sin, ''Innocent Sin'', Great Father [[spoiler: Nyarlathotep]]. He can launch five attacks in one turn and will pretty much annihilate you unless you're at a high level. In Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' [[spoiler: the Metal Trio]]. They don't have much HP, but they're immune to physical damage all have really strong attacks that hit your whole party.
** ThatOneAttack: One of the Bolontiku in Innocent Sin ''Innocent Sin'' and [[spoiler: Metal Jun ]] in Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' have an attack in their respective games called "Terror Fortune" which deals moderately high [[BlowYouAway Wind]] and [[CastingAShadow Dark damage]] to the entire party, which isn't so bad. The problem is that it [[FromBadToWorse ALSO]] inflicts [[StandardStatusEffects random ailments on your party]], including [[InstantKO instant death]]. Have fun keeping your party alive...
** Old Maid in Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' is no fun either. It's a spell that turns one of the character's persona into Joker. When this happens, if you don't immediately abort your battle and defend, it will do some decent damage to the party. What makes this spell a real pain in the ass is that Joker battles tend to have the joker Joker in question spam the spell repeatedly, dragging the battle out.
* ThatOneSidequest: The cartography (map-making) sidequest in Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' involves a LOT of running around every square inch of a dungeon, probably doing one or two of the dungeon's puzzles (like the Secret Lab's Fuse Box puzzle), walking over all the traps and pitfalls, and generous use of the Estoma spell. It's not fun and it can be draining. And if Salam didn't offer up a King's Ransom for his requests (for an equivalent, think of the rewards on par with [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Chocobo Hot and Cold]]); nobody would willingly do it.
1st Aug '17 12:41:35 AM syndomatic
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** Tatsuya's talent in SFX-imitating, as lampshaded in the drama CD.



* {{Narm}}: Hitler wearing sunglasses in the PSP remake.

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* {{Narm}}: The voice acting in ''Eternal Punishment''. Leaves much to be desired. "It's self-defense. There's NO problem with that," anyone? Also, Hitler wearing sunglasses in the PSP remake.
30th Jul '17 9:39:36 PM defciggy
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* HoYay/ShipTease: Jun Kurosu, who ''definitely'' sees Tatsuya Suou as more than a friend.

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* HoYay/ShipTease: HoYay: Jun Kurosu, who ''definitely'' sees Tatsuya Suou as more than a friend.friend. Doubles as ShipTease.
30th Jul '17 9:37:14 PM defciggy
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** An interesting case of why this occurred. The original PSP Persona remake remixed if not changed the OST around to their P3/P4 counterparts to mixed reactions. Here, Atlus comprised both the PSP and remix version in the game proper in case the remixes weren't to fans' liking. But this time, the remixes were good. DAMN GOOD.

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** An interesting case of why this occurred. The original PSP Persona remake remixed if not changed the OST around to their P3/P4 ''P3''/''P4'' counterparts to mixed reactions. Here, Atlus comprised both the PSP and remix version in the game proper in case the remixes weren't to fans' liking. But this time, the remixes were good. DAMN GOOD.



* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage to multiple enemies ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.

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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), (Zio + Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage to multiple enemies ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.



* HoYay: Jun Kurosu, who ''definitely'' sees Tatsuya Suou as more than a friend.

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* HoYay: HoYay/ShipTease: Jun Kurosu, who ''definitely'' sees Tatsuya Suou as more than a friend.
5th Jul '17 3:10:03 AM M3
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* SophomoreSlump: ''Eternal Punishment'' is generally considered to be the ''Return of the Jedi'' of the two, as it can't quite measure up to the pathos of ''Innocent Sin''. It doesn't help that half the game is dedicated to the events of Persona ONE.
27th Jun '17 11:01:46 PM syndomatic
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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.

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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage to multiple enemies ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.
27th Jun '17 9:51:53 PM syndomatic
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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.

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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame.endgame provided the enemy doesn't resist Physical. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.
27th Jun '17 9:48:39 PM syndomatic
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* GameBreaker: Some of the Fusion Spells are these. Of note is Dashing Strike (Zio+Tackle), which can be obtained as [[DiscOneNuke early]] as level 15 if you get lucky with mutating Minotaur; going off Michel's huge attack stat, it deals massive amounts of damage ''multiple times'' that can easily carry you throughout the endgame. There's also Armageddon, but it's [[AwesomeButImpractical less practical]] due to needing to be at least level 94 to even invoke the exclusive personae needed to use it.
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