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* CompleteMonster: [[GreaterScopeVillain Sinister]] is revealed to be the mastermind behind the plan that created the [[BadFuture dark future]] of the timeline, in which civil society was destroyed and replaced with supervillain-controlled fiefdoms, killing millions in the process. Sinister came up with the plan to united the supervillains, kill all the superheroes and take over the world, and presented this plan to ComicBook/RedSkull. When Old Man Logan is past trying to stop this dark future from taking place, Sinister, in the form of Miss Sinister, learns of the future. Wanting to ensure the Old Man Logan future comes to pass, Miss Sinister recruits ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, hoping to use him to trick the superhero community into killing each other and takes her plans to Red Skull's daughter Sin, working with her to ensure this plan succeeds and helps Sin kill everyone who could stand in their way. After Logan defeats Miss Sinister in the past, Logan goes back to the future, where Sinister has once again taken the form of Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister has created a hit squad of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} clones to do his bidding. Mr. Sinister sends these clones to kill anyone who prevents him from capturing Logan and Bruce Banner Jr.--Hulk's preteen son--massacring a gang of cannibals and Forge's encampment of refugees. Mr. Sinister wants to [[PlayingWithSyringes experiment]] on Logan and [[WouldHurtAChild Bruce]], so he can create an army of SuperSoldiers to conquer the world.

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* CompleteMonster: [[GreaterScopeVillain Sinister]] is revealed to be [[TheChessmaster the mastermind mastermind]] behind the plan that created the [[BadFuture dark future]] of the timeline, in which civil society was destroyed and replaced with supervillain-controlled fiefdoms, killing millions in the process. Sinister came up with the plan to united unite the supervillains, kill all the superheroes and take over the world, and presented this plan to ComicBook/RedSkull. When Old Man Logan is past trying to stop this dark future from taking place, Sinister, in the form of Miss Sinister, learns of the future. Wanting to ensure the Old Man Logan future comes to pass, Miss Sinister recruits ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, hoping to use him to trick the superhero community into killing each other and takes her plans to Red Skull's daughter Sin, working with her to ensure this plan succeeds and helps Sin kill everyone who could stand in their way. After Logan defeats Miss Sinister in the past, Logan goes back to the future, where Sinister has once again taken the form of Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister has created a hit squad of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} clones to do his bidding. Mr. Sinister sends these clones to kill anyone who prevents him from capturing Logan and Bruce Banner Jr.--Hulk's preteen son--massacring a gang of cannibals and Forge's encampment of refugees. Mr. Sinister wants to [[PlayingWithSyringes experiment]] experiment on Logan and [[WouldHurtAChild Bruce]], so he can create an army of SuperSoldiers to conquer the world.

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* CompleteMonster: [[GreaterScopeVillain Sinister]] is revealed to be the mastermind behind the plan that created the [[BadFuture dark future]] of the timeline, in which civil society was destroyed and replaced with supervillain-controlled fiefdoms, killing millions in the process. Sinister came up with the plan to united the supervillains, kill all the superheroes and take over the world, and presented this plan to ComicBook/RedSkull. When Old Man Logan is past trying to stop this dark future from taking place, Sinister, in the form of Miss Sinister, learns of the future. Wanting to ensure the Old Man Logan future comes to pass, Miss Sinister recruits ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, hoping to use him to trick the superhero community into killing each other and takes her plans to Red Skull's daughter Sin, working with her to ensure this plan succeeds and helps Sin kill everyone who could stand in their way. After Logan defeats Miss Sinister in the past, Logan goes back to the future, where Sinister has once again taken the form of Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister has created a hit squad of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} clones to do his bidding. Mr. Sinister sends these clones to kill anyone who prevents him from capturing Logan and Bruce Banner Jr.--Hulk's preteen son--massacring a gang of cannibals and Forge's encampment of refugees. Mr. Sinister wants to [[PlayingWithSyringes experiment]] on Logan and [[WouldHurtAChild Bruce]], so he can create an army of SuperSoldiers to take over the world.

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* CompleteMonster: [[GreaterScopeVillain Sinister]] is revealed to be the mastermind behind the plan that created the [[BadFuture dark future]] of the timeline, in which civil society was destroyed and replaced with supervillain-controlled fiefdoms, killing millions in the process. Sinister came up with the plan to united the supervillains, kill all the superheroes and take over the world, and presented this plan to ComicBook/RedSkull. When Old Man Logan is past trying to stop this dark future from taking place, Sinister, in the form of Miss Sinister, learns of the future. Wanting to ensure the Old Man Logan future comes to pass, Miss Sinister recruits ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, hoping to use him to trick the superhero community into killing each other and takes her plans to Red Skull's daughter Sin, working with her to ensure this plan succeeds and helps Sin kill everyone who could stand in their way. After Logan defeats Miss Sinister in the past, Logan goes back to the future, where Sinister has once again taken the form of Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister has created a hit squad of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} clones to do his bidding. Mr. Sinister sends these clones to kill anyone who prevents him from capturing Logan and Bruce Banner Jr.--Hulk's preteen son--massacring a gang of cannibals and Forge's encampment of refugees. Mr. Sinister wants to [[PlayingWithSyringes experiment]] on Logan and [[WouldHurtAChild Bruce]], so he can create an army of SuperSoldiers to take over conquer the world.

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* CompleteMonster: [[GreaterScopeVillain Sinister]] is revealed to be the mastermind behind the plan that created the [[BadFuture dark future]] of the timeline, in which civil society was destroyed and replaced with supervillain-controlled fiefdoms, killing millions in the process. Sinister came up with the plan to united the supervillains, kill all the superheroes and take over the world, and presented this plan to ComicBook/RedSkull. When Old Man Logan is past trying to stop this dark future from taking place, Sinister, in the form of Miss Sinister, learns of the future. Wanting to ensure the Old Man Logan future comes to pass, Miss Sinister recruits ComicBook/{{Mysterio}}, hoping to use him to trick the superhero community into killing each other and takes her plans to Red Skull's daughter Sin, working with her to ensure this plan succeeds and helps Sin kill everyone who could stand in their way. After Logan defeats Miss Sinister in the past, Logan goes back to the future, where Sinister has once again taken the form of Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister has created a hit squad of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} clones to do his bidding. Mr. Sinister sends these clones to kill anyone who prevents him from capturing Logan and Bruce Banner Jr.--Hulk's preteen son--massacring a gang of cannibals and Forge's encampment of refugees. Mr. Sinister wants to [[PlayingWithSyringes experiment]] on Logan and [[WouldHurtAChild Bruce]], so he can create an army of SuperSoldiers to take over the world.
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* ArcFatigue: It's a 12 issue series where Logan returning to his own time only occurs halfway through. The first half is dedicated to a very predictable and boring conflict with Sin and Miss Sinister, with Logan merely being a plot device due to his history with Mysterio.

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* ArcFatigue: It's a 12 issue series where Logan returning to his own time only occurs halfway through. The first half is dedicated to a very predictable and boring conflict with Sin and Miss Sinister, with Logan merely being a plot device due to his history with Mysterio.
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** The Venom symbiote merged with a Tyrannosaur. Nothing else needs to be said.

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** The Venom symbiote merged with a Tyrannosaur. Nothing else needs to be said. Except for its [[CoolVsAwesome battle with Black Bolt.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Logan's interactions with the superhero community aren't very explored despite him coming from a CrapsackWorld where most of the heroes have died, there are a few heroes who would've been close to Logan before their deaths that he never even appears on screen with and conversely its also a waste due to not seeing many characters reacting to Logan considering the fact when he arrived 616!Logan recently died and left many characters affected.

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Logan's interactions with the superhero community aren't very explored despite him coming from a CrapsackWorld where most of the heroes have died, there are a few heroes who would've been close to Logan before their deaths that he never even appears on screen with and conversely its also a waste due to not seeing many characters reacting to Logan considering the fact when he arrived 616!Logan recently died and left many characters affected.affected.
** Perhaps most egregious, Old Man Logan and Cyclops never meet. Logan named his son after this guy and would surely have some things to say about the direction his life took. Nope.





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* ArcFatigue: It's a 12 issue series where Logan returning to his own time only occurs halfway through. The first half is dedicated to a very predictable and boring conflict with Sin and Miss Sinister, with Logan merely being a plot device due to his history with Mysterio.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Old Man Logan and the original Logan meeting should've been a big deal .There's a lot to explore there and a lot that can be said. All it amounts to is Old Man Logan saying that Logan shouldn't let his guard down.
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* CompleteMonster: Even in this [[CrapsackWorld dark setting]], the [[GeniusBruiser Maestro]], a corrupt version of the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk from an alternate future, stands out as a particularly vile villain. Maestro arrives on Earth and takes over Hulk's brood of inbred children after Logan killed this world's version of Hulk. Maestro has the Hulk Gang take over a military base in the Yukon territories, killing all the guards there. Maestro also has one of the Hulk Gang, Billy Bob, [[YouHaveFailedMe killed for his incompetence]]. Maestro uses the base's resources to create several nuclear bombs. Maestro plans to use the Hulk Gang as [[SuicideAttack suicide bombers]] and [[NukeEm have them blow up several major cities]], destroying most of humanity. Maestro promises the Hulk Gang they will survive the blasts, but that is a lie, they will die along with most of humanity so that Maestro can rule over a [[AfterTheEnd post-nuclear-holocaust]] world. After Maestro's genocidal scheme is foiled and he is confronted by Logan and Hawkeye, Maestro attempts to set off a nuke, to take out everyone in the area, out of spite. After that defeat, the Maestro reappears later, having conquered a small Northern Canadian town, where Maestro kills anyone who opposes him and turns the women of the town into his [[SexSlave sex slaves]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Logan's interactions with the superhero community aren't very explored despite him coming from a CrapsackWorld where most of the heroes have died, there are a few heroes who would've been close to Logan before their deaths that he never even appears on screen with.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Logan's interactions with the superhero community aren't very explored despite him coming from a CrapsackWorld where most of the heroes have died, there are a few heroes who would've been close to Logan before their deaths that he never even appears on screen with.with and conversely its also a waste due to not seeing many characters reacting to Logan considering the fact when he arrived 616!Logan recently died and left many characters affected.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Why yes, the Venom symbioted T-Rex ''is'' what most people remember about this series, why do you ask?

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Why yes, the Venom symbioted symbiote T-Rex ''is'' what most people remember about this series, why do you ask?



** Hulk mentions "She Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!", so it's likely she wasn't the first he tried this with...

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** Hulk mentions "She Hulk "She-Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!", so it's likely she wasn't the first he tried this with...



--> '''Banner''' "Who else was I gonna mate with [[IncestIsRelative besides my first cousin?]] Jenny She Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!"

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--> '''Banner''' "Who else was I gonna mate with [[IncestIsRelative besides my first cousin?]] Jenny She Hulk She-Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!"



* NightmareFuel: A... rather healthy amount:

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* NightmareFuel: A... rather a healthy amount:



* FandomRivalry: Between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. The fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' has Laura swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book. After ''[=ResurrXion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.

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* FandomRivalry: Between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. The fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' has Laura swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book. After ''[=ResurrXion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing increased exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.



* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan. Others however see it as an {{Inversion}}, greatly preferring him to his mainstream counterpart, who was mostly portrayed as an unsympathetic {{Hypocrite}} before his death, while OML has, so far, largely managed to avoid that pitfall.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan. Others however see it as an {{Inversion}}, greatly preferring Logan, feeling since he acts so similar to the original than 616!Logan may well not have died to begin with.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Logan's interactions with the superhero community aren't very explored despite
him to his mainstream counterpart, coming from a CrapsackWorld where most of the heroes have died, there are a few heroes who was mostly portrayed as an unsympathetic {{Hypocrite}} would've been close to Logan before his death, while OML has, so far, largely managed to avoid their deaths that pitfall.he never even appears on screen with.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Why yes, the Venom symbioted T-Rex ''is'' what most people remember about this series, why do you ask?
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No one has revealed the identity of the Mysterio in the Old Man Logan storyline, not to mention that going by Dead Man Logan, it was Quentin Beck.


** Further justified in that [[spoiler: this Mysterio is the third -- Francis Klum, a teleporting mutant who could take over people's bodies and make them do anything. Wolverine ''almost'' twigs to what's going on, but Mysterio uses the original's hallucinogens to make it look like Jubilee died in the initial explosion and there are innocent children being threatened by supervillains. PapaWolf Wolverine doesn't twig to obvious tells -- Klaw is made of sound and shouldn't be killed by his claws, for instance, while Mister Sinister has taken a lot worse -- because Mysterio never gives him time to think.]]



*** [[spoiler:Technically it's not the same harmless villain. It's the third version, who is a powerful mutant who holds a large grudge against heroes.]]
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** Logan taking out Maestro by cutting his head off in #50.

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* AwesomeMoment: Logan with a now weakening Healing Factor still being able to kick Kraven’s ass.
* AwesomeArt: Something that nobody seems to deny is that the series ''looks'' amazing, with stellar work by Andrea Sorrentino that suits the series incredibly well.

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* AwesomeMoment: Logan with a now weakening Healing Factor still being able to kick Kraven’s ass.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Logan with a now weakening Healing Factor still being able to kick Kraven’s ass.

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* AwesomeArt: The entire story is done by Steve [=McNiven=], so this is a given.

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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The entire story is done by Steve [=McNiven=], so this is a given.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Many, but highlights include:

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** When you think about it, the creation of the Hulk Gang probably isn't something Jenny was too crazy about.
** Hulk mentions "She Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!", so it's likely she wasn't the first he tried this with...
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Rare in this series, but between Logan and his daughter Jade.
-->'''Logan''': I love you, baby girl.
-->'''Jade''': I love you too, Pa.
* IdiotPlot: [[spoiler: Mysterio somehow overriding Wolverine's SuperSenses to trick him into slaughtering the other X-Men, despite the fact that half the X-Men could wipe the floor with him. Somewhat justified in that he took them by surprise and the X-Men were inclined to attempt to not kill Wolverine, which Mysterio lampshades, as well as the fact that Mysterio has been known to develop chemicals that work their way around super senses.]]
** Further justified in that [[spoiler: this Mysterio is the third -- Francis Klum, a teleporting mutant who could take over people's bodies and make them do anything. Wolverine ''almost'' twigs to what's going on, but Mysterio uses the original's hallucinogens to make it look like Jubilee died in the initial explosion and there are innocent children being threatened by supervillains. PapaWolf Wolverine doesn't twig to obvious tells -- Klaw is made of sound and shouldn't be killed by his claws, for instance, while Mister Sinister has taken a lot worse -- because Mysterio never gives him time to think.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Rare in this series, but between Logan and his daughter Jade.
-->'''Logan''': I love you, baby girl.
-->'''Jade''': I love you too, Pa.
* FridgeHorror: When you think about it, the creation of the Hulk Gang probably isn't something Jenny was too crazy about.
** Hulk also mentions "She Hulk was the only woman out there who could take the damn pace!", so it's likely she wasn't the first he tried this with...
* IdiotPlot: [[spoiler: Mysterio somehow overriding Wolverine's SuperSenses to trick him into slaughtering the other X-Men, despite the fact that half the X-Men could wipe the floor with him. Somewhat justified in that he took them by surprise and the X-Men were inclined to attempt to not kill Wolverine, which Mysterio lampshades, as well as the fact that Mysterio has been known to develop chemicals that work their way around super senses.]]
** Further justified in that [[spoiler: this Mysterio is the third -- Francis Klum, a teleporting mutant who could take over people's bodies and make them do anything. Wolverine ''almost'' twigs to what's going on, but Mysterio uses the original's hallucinogens to make it look like Jubilee died in the initial explosion and there are innocent children being threatened by supervillains. PapaWolf Wolverine doesn't twig to obvious tells -- Klaw is made of sound and shouldn't be killed by his claws, for instance, while Mister Sinister has taken a lot worse -- because Mysterio never gives him time to think.]]

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* AwesomeMoment: Logan with a now weakening Healing Factor still being able to kick Kraven’s ass.


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Both are equally focused on character development, one just depicts more violence.


* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book (ignoring that ''All-New Wolverine'' still rather consistently out-sells the current team books). ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books. However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The Old Man's [[WolverinePublicity increasing prominence]] in the post-''[=IvX=]'' X-Men books — specifically the fact that in addition to his solo series, Logan will be appearing in ''three'' team books, along with a rumored Avengers roster spot after ''Secret Empire'' — has led to this sort of backlash from a part of the fanbase. It's not uncommon to see fans ask why Logan himself was killed off at all if the Old Man would be doing the exact same things, only wrinklier.

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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between Between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the The fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's has Laura swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book (ignoring that ''All-New Wolverine'' still rather consistently out-sells the current team books). ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books. However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' book. After ''[=ResurrXion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' ''[=ResurrXion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' ''[=ResurrXion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The Old Man's [[WolverinePublicity increasing prominence]] in the post-''[=IvX=]'' X-Men books —- specifically the fact that in addition to his solo series, Logan will be appearing in ''three'' team books, along with a rumored Avengers roster spot after ''Secret Empire'' — has led to this sort of backlash from a part of the fanbase. It's not uncommon to see fans ask why Logan himself was killed off at all if the Old Man would be doing the exact same things, only wrinklier.



* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan. Others however see it as an {{Inversion}}, greatly preferring him to his mainstream counterpart, who was mostly portrayed as an unsympathetic {{Hypocrite}} before his death.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan. Others however see it as an {{Inversion}}, greatly preferring him to his mainstream counterpart, who was mostly portrayed as an unsympathetic {{Hypocrite}} before his death.death, while OML has, so far, largely managed to avoid that pitfall.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan. Others however see it as an {{Inversion}}, greatly preferring him to his mainstream counterpart, who was mostly portrayed as an unsympathetic {{Hypocrite}} before his death.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Some reader love this story and find all very cool while others consider a stupid, needlessly ugly and badly written comic.

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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book (ignoring that ''All-New Wolverine'' still rather consistently out-sells the current team books). ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books.
** However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.

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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book (ignoring that ''All-New Wolverine'' still rather consistently out-sells the current team books). ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books.
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books. However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.


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* ReplacementScrappy: Some die hard Wolverine fans see him as one for the original Logan.
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' meets ''Film/{{Unforgiven}}''.

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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' meets ''Film/{{Unforgiven}}''.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The Old Man's [[WolverinePublicity increasing prominence]] in the post-''[=IvX=]'' X-Men books — specifically the fact that in addition to his solo series, Logan will be appearing in ''three'' team books, along with a rumored Avengers roster spot after ''Secret Empire'' — has led to this sort of backlash from a part of the fanbase. It's not uncommon to see fans ask why Logan himself was killed off at all.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The Old Man's [[WolverinePublicity increasing prominence]] in the post-''[=IvX=]'' X-Men books — specifically the fact that in addition to his solo series, Logan will be appearing in ''three'' team books, along with a rumored Avengers roster spot after ''Secret Empire'' — has led to this sort of backlash from a part of the fanbase. It's not uncommon to see fans ask why Logan himself was killed off at all.all if the Old Man would be doing the exact same things, only wrinklier.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The Old Man's [[WolverinePublicity increasing prominence]] in the post-''[=IvX=]'' X-Men books — specifically the fact that in addition to his solo series, Logan will be appearing in ''three'' team books, along with a rumored Avengers roster spot after ''Secret Empire'' — has led to this sort of backlash from a part of the fanbase. It's not uncommon to see fans ask why Logan himself was killed off at all.
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** Further justified in that [[spoiler: this Mysterio is the third -- Francis Klum, a teleporting mutant who could take over people's bodies and make them do anything. Wolverine ''almost'' twigs to what's going on, but Mysterio uses the original's hallucinogens to make it look like Jubilee died in the initial explosion and there are innocent children being threatened by supervillains. PapaWolf Wolverine doesn't twig to obvious tells -- Klaw is made of sound and shouldn't be killed by his claws, for instance, while Mister Sinister has taken a lot worse -- because Mysterio never gives him time to think.]]
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** However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event.

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** However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event. The announcement of a ''third'' ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' team book prominently featuring Logan has not helped matters.
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** However this began to change after the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' announcements revealed that Old Man Logan would be appearing prominently in two team books (''X-Men Gold'' and ''Weapon X'') along with his continuing solo series, while Laura would only be appearing in ''All-New Wolverine''. An increasing point of contention among X-23 fans was the anticipation that taking on the Wolverine name would raise her profile in the comics and lead to increasing exposure, while in practice Old Man Logan has instead received the attention, particularly in events. This has led to some backlash against the ''[=ResurrXtion=]'' lineup, and even Logan appearing prominently in a teaser for the 2017 ''Secret Empire'' event.
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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books.

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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. Others are point ''Old Man Logan's'' high sales as an indication that readers want "Real Logan" back and that X-23 can't sell a book (ignoring that ''All-New Wolverine'' still rather consistently out-sells the current team books). ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books.
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* FandomRivalry: A rather one-sided one exists between readers of ''Old Man Logan'' and ''All-New Wolverine''. A great deal of criticism of the latter series comes from fans of ''Old Man Logan'', particularly disparaging remarks about Logan being closer to the "Real Wolverine," while calling X-23 a rip-off or a pretender. Further, the fact that ''All-New Wolverine'' is much more focused on character development than violence, and Laura's swearing off of killing altogether, even further fuels arguments against the book. ''All-New Wolverine'' generally have no significant reaction to ''Old Man Logan'' altogether, or even pull ''both'' books.
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* {{Squick}}: In this universe a trio of redneck Hulks rule over the West Coast. The implication is that the Hulk raped Jennifer (alias ComicBook/SheHulk) and had children with her (his [[KissingCousins first cousin]]) because she was the only one who could "handle" having sex with The Hulk.
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*** [[spoiler:Technically it's not the same harmless villain. It's the third version, who is a powerful mutant who holds a large grudge against heroes.]]

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