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* MagnificentBastard: The Marquis de Carabas would be one of the defining examples.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcom Tucker]] (or, if you prefer, [[Series/DoctorWho The Twelfth Doctor]]) as The Angel Islington, [[Series/PeepShow Alan Johnson]] as the Marquis de Carabas, [[Series/BreakingBad Lydia Rodarte-Quayle]] as Door, and [[Series/BlackBooks Fran Katzenjammer]] as Lamia
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The novel is much better known than the original TV series, in a very rare reversal of the norm. All later adaptations are credited as being based on the book, rather than the series, even though the stories of both are largely identical.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twist, it's still probably the former. [[TakeAThirdOption Although it could be both.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]].any more]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twist, it's still probably the former. [[TakeAThirdOption Although it could be both.]]
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* TheScrappy: Jessica, Richard's girlfriend at the beginning of the book is very disliked for being a very controlling woman and trying to ''fix'' Richard for marriage, and for browbeating him. No one is sad when he doesn't get back with her.
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* AuthorAvatar: Possibly. Read the physical description of Richard Mayhew. Then take a look at Neil Gaiman's author portrait.
** Jossed on Gaiman's tumblr. He described Richard based off the original actor from the TV show.
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** "Messires Croup and Vandemar" are the resident [[PsychoForHire monsters for hire]] of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have ''no'' redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more.

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** "Messires Croup and Vandemar" are the resident [[PsychoForHire monsters for hire]] of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have ''no'' redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though... with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more.
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* NightmareFuel: NeilGaiman the NightmareFuelStationAttendant strikes again. Croup and Vandemar in particular.

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* NightmareFuel: NeilGaiman Creator/NeilGaiman the NightmareFuelStationAttendant strikes again. Croup and Vandemar in particular.
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** The angel [[BigBad Islington]] is a being drunk on its own glory and vanity. Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks '''They deserved it!'''. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer its kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for its exile.

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** The angel Croup and Vandermar's [[BigBad mysterious employer]]; [[spoiler: the angel Islington]] is a being drunk on its own glory and vanity. [[spoiler: Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks '''They deserved it!'''. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer its kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for its exile.]]
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** "Messires Croup and Vandemar" are the resident [[PsychoForHire monsters for hire]] of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have ''no'' redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even morethe resident monsters for hire of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have no redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more

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** "Messires Croup and Vandemar" are the resident [[PsychoForHire monsters for hire]] of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have ''no'' redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even morethe resident monsters for hire of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have no redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even moremore.

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* CompleteMonster: First are 'Messires Croup and Vandemar' the resident monsters for hire of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have no redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more
** The second is the angel Islington.A being drunk on its own glory and vanity, Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks They deserved it!. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer his kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for his exile

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* CompleteMonster: First are 'Messires CompleteMonster:
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Croup and Vandemar' Vandemar" are the resident [[PsychoForHire monsters for hire]] of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have ''no'' redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even morethe resident monsters for hire of the London Below. Croup himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have no redeeming features." Croup and Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more
** The second is the angel Islington.A [[BigBad Islington]] is a being drunk on its own glory and vanity, vanity. Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks They '''They deserved it!. it!'''. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer his its kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for his exile its exile.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twists, it's still probably the [[spoiler: former]]. [[TakeAThirdOption Although it could be both.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twists, twist, it's still probably the [[spoiler: former]].former. [[TakeAThirdOption Although it could be both.]]
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries' Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries' Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.it, which Gaiman acknowledges on the DVD commentary.
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The second is the angel Islington.A being drunk on its own glory and vanity, Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks They deserved it!. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer his kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for his exile

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** The second is the angel Islington.A being drunk on its own glory and vanity, Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a mask of fury as it shrieks They deserved it!. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer his kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for his exile

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* CompleteMonster: Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington. Hell, even Croup thinks Islington]] has "travelled so far beyond right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."

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* CompleteMonster: First are 'Messires Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington. Hell, even Vandemar' the resident monsters for hire of the London Below. Croup thinks Islington]] has "travelled so far beyond right himself sums the duo up best when he cheerily remarks "we have no redeeming features." Croup and wrong he couldn't see them through Vandemar seem one beast split into two bodies, Croup as the brains and Vandemar as the brawn, but both are wildly sadistic and cruel. A man who fails to perform his tasks is set upon by Croup and hacked to pieces (and impliedly devoured by him). The two murder heroine Door's entire family and when her ally, the Marquis, tries to negotiate with them, they capture him and torture him for nothing more than entertainment. They give him a telescope head start though...with Vandemar stalking after him, gleefully counting down the time to savor the hunt even more
The second is the angel Islington.A being drunk
on its own glory and vanity, Islington was originally tasked with watching over Atlantis. When pressed on how Atlantis really sank, Islington's normally beautiful, serene features are replaced by a nice clear night."mask of fury as it shrieks They deserved it!. Islington is the one who commissioned Croup and Vandemar to murder Door's family and manipulated Door to him so she could open the gates of heaven, allowing Islington to conquer his kin and exact revenge out of nothing more than spite for his exile
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* TheWoobie: Anesthesia. She never had a father, her mother went insane, and she was raped by her aunt's boyfriend. On her eleventh birthday, she told the aunt, who didn't believe her. She either ran away or was kicked out (I don't remember). She wound up in London Below. [[spoiler: Eventually, the dark took her.]]

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* TheWoobie: Anesthesia. She never had a father, her mother went insane, and she was raped by her aunt's boyfriend. On her eleventh birthday, she told the aunt, who didn't believe her. She either ran away or was kicked out (I don't remember). She and wound up in London Below. [[spoiler: Eventually, the dark took her.]]
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** Jossed on Gaiman's tumblr. He described Richard based off the original actor from the TV show.
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* For that matter, Door and the Marquis (''especially'' the Marquis) in the comic book adaptation. His skin is literally ink-black and the only visible parts of his face are his eyes and mouth.

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* ** For that matter, Door and the Marquis (''especially'' the Marquis) in the comic book adaptation. His skin is literally ink-black and the only visible parts of his face are his eyes and mouth.
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* For that matter, Door and the Marquis (''especially'' the Marquis) in the comic book adaptation. His skin is literally ink-black and the only visible parts of his face are his eyes and mouth.
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* AuthorAvatar: Possibly. Read the physical description of Richard Mayhew. Then take a look at Neil Gaiman's author portrait.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: NeilGaiman the NightmareFuelStationAttendant strikes again. Croup and Vandemar in particular.
** The fate of [[spoiler: poor little Anaesthesia]] comes to mind. Although, oddly, [[spoiler: the possibility she may return someday]] is discussed.
** Richard's Ordeal of the Key. [[spoiler: Made even worse if you are a supporter of the "Richard is insane" theory]].


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* NightmareFuel: NeilGaiman the NightmareFuelStationAttendant strikes again. Croup and Vandemar in particular.
** The fate of [[spoiler: poor little Anaesthesia]] comes to mind. Although, oddly, [[spoiler: the possibility she may return someday]] is discussed.
** Richard's Ordeal of the Key. [[spoiler: Made even worse if you are a supporter of the "Richard is insane" theory]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twists, it's still probably the [[spoiler: former]].

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The ending of the book is ambiguous: either Richard [[spoiler: decided to return to London Below and went with the Marquis]] or [[spoiler: the whole thing drove him kind of insane and he just imagined that happening because he couldn't deal with London Above anymore]]. Given how Gaiman tends to avoid that kind of twists, it's still probably the [[spoiler: former]]. [[TakeAThirdOption Although it could be both.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington]].

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* CompleteMonster: Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington]].Islington. Hell, even Croup thinks Islington]] has "travelled so far beyond right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."

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* LesYay: Hunter

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* LesYay: HunterHunter and Serpentine are implied to have been lovers in the past - a time apparently remembered fondly by both women.



* UncannyValley: In the TV adaptation [[spoiler: Islington's eyes are covered with black contact lenses.]] When you first see his face you can see something is ever so slightly wrong with it, but it's difficult to tell what. It's made very obvious after TheReveal though.

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* UncannyValley: In the TV adaptation [[spoiler: Islington's eyes are covered with black contact lenses.]] When you first see his face you can see something is ever so slightly wrong with it, but it's difficult to tell what. It's made very obvious after TheReveal though.though.
* TheWoobie: Anesthesia. She never had a father, her mother went insane, and she was raped by her aunt's boyfriend. On her eleventh birthday, she told the aunt, who didn't believe her. She either ran away or was kicked out (I don't remember). She wound up in London Below. [[spoiler: Eventually, the dark took her.]]
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Missed Moment Of Awesome (now Offscreen Moment Of Awesome) is not \"they SHOULD have done it, it\'d be cool,\" or \"it wasn\'t cool ENOUGH.\" It\'s \"they DID do it, and you never got to see it.\"


* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been introduced as the biggest badass in London Below, the heroes' greatest asset, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar alone. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along'']].
* MoralEventHorizon: See VillainousBreakdown on the main page. Also explicity stated by Croup - "He's travelled so far beyond right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."

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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been introduced as the biggest badass in London Below, the heroes' greatest asset, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar alone. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along'']].
* MoralEventHorizon: See VillainousBreakdown on the main page. Also explicity explicitly stated by Croup - "He's travelled so far beyond right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries' Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries' Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.it.
* UncannyValley: In the TV adaptation [[spoiler: Islington's eyes are covered with black contact lenses.]] When you first see his face you can see something is ever so slightly wrong with it, but it's difficult to tell what. It's made very obvious after TheReveal though.
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* CompleteMonster: Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Croup and Vandemar. [[spoiler:And Islington.]]Islington]].



** Richard's Ordeal of the Key. [[spoiler: Made even worse if you are a supporter of the "Richard is insane" theory.]]

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** Richard's Ordeal of the Key. [[spoiler: Made even worse if you are a supporter of the "Richard is insane" theory.]]theory]].



* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been introduced as the biggest badass in London Below, the heroes' greatest asset, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar alone. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along''.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: See VillainousBreakdown on the main page. Also explicity stated by Croup - [[spoiler: "He's travelled so far between right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."]]
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries's Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.

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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been introduced as the biggest badass in London Below, the heroes' greatest asset, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar alone. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along''.]]
along'']].
* MoralEventHorizon: See VillainousBreakdown on the main page. Also explicity stated by Croup - [[spoiler: "He's travelled so far between beyond right and wrong he couldn't see them through a telescope on a nice clear night."]]
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The miniseries's miniseries' Beast of London bears a striking resemblance to a cow with a fur rug thrown over it.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been set up as the biggest badass in London Below, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along''.]]

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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been set up introduced as the biggest badass in London Below, the heroes' greatest asset, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar.Vandemar alone. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along''.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: The Marquis de Carabas would be one of the defining examples.
* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Quite deliberately set up by the author to further increase the impact of a particular betrayal. [[spoiler:Hunter has been set up as the biggest badass in London Below, and the only being capable of taking down Croup and Vandemar. So what does she do when she sees them? Engage in a massive, spectacular brawl? Hell, no. ''She was on the same side as them all along''.]]

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