History YMMV / NeonGenesisEvangelion

12th Apr '18 5:39:25 PM Sakubara
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Many people who love ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' cite this as one of the series' strengths, and use it as a point against the first two ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies due to their lighter and saner tone.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Many people who love the original ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' cite this as one of the series' strengths, and use it as a point against the first two ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies due to their lighter and saner tone.
tone. Not to mention haters who feel DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensibleTrueArtIsIncomprehensible: It's also been accused of having this mindset, particularly from haters with the opposite mindset.
25th Mar '18 12:19:01 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* NeverLiveItDown: Like him or not, [[{{Squick}} Shinji masturbating over a comatose Asuka]] would leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Like him or not, The way Shinji gets described sometimes, makes it sound like he all does in the series is nothing but angsting and whining ineffectively about his daddy issues, only occasionally pausing [[{{Squick}} Shinji masturbating over a when he masturbates to the sight of comatose Asuka]] would girls]] (though that last event did undeniably and understandably leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.strong impression with viewers, to put it diplomatically). But Shinji, as a matter of fact, rarely ever angsts out loud, instead being mostly just brooding and quiet. If anything, ''Asuka'' is possibly the most vocally angsty and emotionally unstable character.
16th Mar '18 4:48:09 PM nombretomado
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* {{Fanon}}: A general note: so many things about the series and its mythos are implied and left open to interpretation, rather than explicitly stated, that drawing the line between canon and fanon can in some cases be extremely difficult, if not downright impossible. As a rule of thumb: if you heard it from somebody on the Internet (including ThisVeryWiki and even Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}), or in a magazine, or at a convention, or even in the freaking DVD special features - don't assume it's canon. Hell, even the ''creators themselves'' [[ShrugOfGod tend to make contradictory statements about the series]], so you might not want to trust them so much either.

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* {{Fanon}}: A general note: so many things about the series and its mythos are implied and left open to interpretation, rather than explicitly stated, that drawing the line between canon and fanon can in some cases be extremely difficult, if not downright impossible. As a rule of thumb: if you heard it from somebody on the Internet (including ThisVeryWiki Wiki/ThisVeryWiki and even Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}), or in a magazine, or at a convention, or even in the freaking DVD special features - don't assume it's canon. Hell, even the ''creators themselves'' [[ShrugOfGod tend to make contradictory statements about the series]], so you might not want to trust them so much either.
21st Feb '18 11:52:16 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* OlderThanTheyThink: That Instrumentality scene? You know, with the crucifix images everywhere, and a bunch of people dying, and a [[LyricalDissonance deceptively cheerful-sounding song]] that becomes incredibly nihilistic and bleak once you actually listen closely to the lyrics -- but the movie still ends on a hopeful note? [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Where have we seen an ending like this before?]]

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* OlderThanTheyThink: That Instrumentality scene? You know, with the crucifix images everywhere, and a bunch of people dying, and a [[LyricalDissonance deceptively cheerful-sounding song]] that becomes incredibly nihilistic and bleak once you actually listen closely to the lyrics -- but the movie still ends goes out on a hopeful {{bittersweet|Ending}} and [[TheAntiNihilist hopeful]] note? [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Where have we seen an ending like this before?]]
21st Feb '18 11:48:40 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* OlderThanTheyThink: That Instrumentality scene? You know, with the crucifix images everywhere, and a bunch of people dying, and a [[LyricalDissonance deceptively cheerful-sounding song]] that becomes incredibly nihilistic and bleak once you actually listen closely to the lyrics? [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Where have we seen an ending like this before?]]

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* OlderThanTheyThink: That Instrumentality scene? You know, with the crucifix images everywhere, and a bunch of people dying, and a [[LyricalDissonance deceptively cheerful-sounding song]] that becomes incredibly nihilistic and bleak once you actually listen closely to the lyrics? lyrics -- but the movie still ends on a hopeful note? [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Where have we seen an ending like this before?]]
1st Feb '18 9:59:33 PM Raikoh
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* BrokenBase: Beyond the conflicts of the fanbase over ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'', the manga also gets this. Starting initially as a modified adaptation of the anime around the time the series started, ScheduleSlip took it ''[[UpToEleven two decades]]'' to finish with a story that ends up with a radically different conclusion. This and things like Kaworu getting significantly less characterization, Shinji [[AdaptationalBadass manning up significantly and being much more functional,]] and [[AdaptationDistillation plot changes and alterations]] here and there divided fans between which adaptation was better. Like FirstInstallmentWins below, however, the anime is still considered the overall better product.

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* BrokenBase: Beyond the conflicts of the fanbase over ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'', the manga also gets this. Starting initially as a modified adaptation of the anime around the time the series started, ScheduleSlip took it ''[[UpToEleven two decades]]'' to finish with a story that ends up with a radically different conclusion. This and things like Kaworu getting significantly less characterization, Shinji [[AdaptationalBadass manning up significantly and being much more functional,]] and [[AdaptationDistillation plot changes and alterations]] here and there divided fans between which adaptation was better. Like FirstInstallmentWins below, however, the anime is still considered the overall better product.
1st Feb '18 8:40:09 PM Raikoh
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* BrokenBase: Beyond the conflicts of the fanbase over ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'', the manga also gets this. Starting initially as a modified adaptation of the anime around the time the series started, ScheduleSlip took it ''[[UpToEleven two decades]]'' to finish with a story that ends up with a radically different conclusion. This and things like Kaworu getting significantly less characterization, Shinji [[AdaptationalBadass manning up significantly and being much more functional,]] and [[AdaptationDistillation plot changes and alterations]] here and there divided fans between which adaptation was better. Like FirstInstallmentWins below, however, the anime is still considered the overall better product.
21st Jan '18 2:11:22 AM SpaceDrake
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** One English dub voice that's consistently praised is that of [[TheChessmaster Gendo Ikari]] ([=Tristan MacAvery=]) in the first dub. [=MacAvery=] provides the character with a voice that's at once ''very'' menacing, ''very'' charismatic and ''very'' cool, and also nails the character's more emotional moments.

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** One English dub voice that's consistently praised is that of [[TheChessmaster Gendo Ikari]] ([=Tristan MacAvery=]) in the first dub. [=MacAvery=] provides the character with a voice that's at once ''very'' menacing, ''very'' charismatic and ''very'' cool, and also nails the character's more emotional moments. [=McAvery=] ''not'' returning for ''Rebuild'', despite the effort taken to get Creator/SpikeSpencer and Allison Keith back, was generally counted as a mark against those films.
10th Jan '18 3:50:56 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Of course, when most people about "''that'' scene" they are referring to the infamous opening scene of ''The End of Evangelion'', where [[spoiler:Shinji [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbates]] over a [[DudeSheIsLikeInAComa comatose]] Asuka.]]

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** Of course, when most people about "''that'' scene" they are referring to the infamous opening scene of ''The End of Evangelion'', where [[spoiler:Shinji [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbates]] over a [[DudeSheIsLikeInAComa [[DudeShesLikeInAComa comatose]] Asuka.]]
10th Jan '18 3:50:00 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** The two really notable instances of [[LeaveTheCameraRunning Leaving the Camera Running]], have become some of the most referenced moments from the series:

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** The two really notable instances of [[LeaveTheCameraRunning Leaving the Camera Running]], LeaveTheCameraRunning, have become some of the most referenced moments from the series:
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