History YMMV / NeonGenesisEvangelion

13th May '16 9:00:25 PM Xteme19
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* CriticalDissonance: It has been almost unanimously positively reviewed by professional anime/manga critics, yet it's a very divisive series within the world of anime fandom.
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8th May '16 10:18:48 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Shinji. Let's see, he gets paired up with Kaworu, Asuka, and Rei, like always. But he also gets paired with Hikari, Mana, Maya, Mayumi, Misato, Ritsuko, Toji, Kensuke, even [[ParentalIncest ''his parents'']]... basically, ''everyone''.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Shinji. Let's see, he gets paired up with Kaworu, Asuka, and Rei, like always. But he also gets paired with Hikari, Mana, Maya, Mayumi, Misato, Ritsuko, Toji, Kensuke, Kaji, even [[ParentalIncest ''his parents'']]... basically, ''everyone''.



* MemeticLoser: Shinji was meant to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of a typical anime action hero, a guy who really wasn't cut out for fighting horrifying monsters and who suffered extreme emotional problems because of it. He also lacks a backbone when dealing with the other characters, and almost never stands up for himself. Some viewers expected he would come onto his own like Simon above, but the angst fest the series became means he only got more and more screwed up. It's a topic of heavy debate whether he was an effective examination of his character type, or if he was just too whiny [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic to be sympathetic]]. Pretty much every spin off (including the manga and ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies) writes Shinji to be more confident, which makes it seem like it wasn't just the casual viewers who had a problem with his portrayal. [[note]]"I musn't run away, I musn't run away". Let's analyze this, where the fuck would I ''go''?[[/note]]

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* MemeticLoser: Shinji was meant to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of a typical anime action hero, a guy who really wasn't cut out for fighting horrifying monsters and who suffered extreme emotional problems because of it. He also lacks a backbone when dealing with the other characters, and almost never stands up for himself. Some viewers expected he would [[TookALevelInBadass come onto into his own own]] like [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Simon above, the Digger]], but the angst fest the series became means he only got more and more screwed up. It's a topic of heavy debate whether he was an effective examination of his character type, or if he was just too whiny [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic to be sympathetic]]. Pretty much every spin off (including the manga and ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies) writes Shinji to be more confident, which makes it seem like it wasn't just the casual viewers who had a problem with his portrayal. [[note]]"I musn't run away, I musn't run away". Let's analyze this, where the fuck would I ''go''?[[/note]]
5th May '16 8:56:58 AM Pren
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** ''Evangelion'' and ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans have formed rivalries over which entry is the better GenreDeconstruction (respectively of HumongousMecha and MagicalGirl). The same rivalry occurs between ''Evangelion'' fellow mecha deconstruction ''{{Manga/Bokurano}}''.

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** ''Evangelion'' and ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans have formed rivalries over which entry is the better GenreDeconstruction (respectively of HumongousMecha and MagicalGirl). The same rivalry occurs between ''Evangelion'' fellow mecha deconstruction ''{{Manga/Bokurano}}''. Although Hideaki Anno himself is a ''huge'' fan of ''Madoka'', praising it for the same kind of ruthless {{Deconstruction}} of a popular genre that he was trying to do.
19th Apr '16 11:56:38 AM Willbyr
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* HoYay: Kaworu and Shinji. Episode 24 basically drives it home as hard as it possibly can in under twenty-five minutes of time, what with the two explicitly stating their love for one another on separate occasions, the whole holding hands-in-the-shower scene, and Shinji almost constantly blushing and being incredibly open to Kaworu in almost all of their scenes together, Kaworu blushing and telling Shinji "I really was born to meet you"... yeah. The manga, while it portrays a more antagonistic and one-sided relationship (although eventually realized as mutual) between the two, goes even further than the anime in this regard, and explicitly makes Kaworu kiss Shinji at one point (well, he ''was'' hyperventilating, and he couldn’t find a bag, but the nature of the scene is ambiguous).

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* HoYay: Kaworu and Shinji. Episode 24 basically drives it home as hard as it possibly can in under twenty-five minutes of time, what with the two explicitly stating their love for one another on separate occasions, the whole holding hands-in-the-shower scene, and Shinji almost constantly blushing and being incredibly open to Kaworu in almost all of their scenes together, Kaworu blushing and telling Shinji "I really was born to meet you"... yeah. The manga, while it portrays a more antagonistic and one-sided relationship (although eventually realized as mutual) between the two, goes even further than the anime in this regard, and explicitly makes Kaworu kiss Shinji at one point (well, he Shinji ''was'' hyperventilating, and he Kaworu couldn’t find a bag, but the nature of the scene is ambiguous).



* JerkassWoobie:
** Asuka. She even provides the page image.
** The original anime's Gendo is sometimes considered one too due to his [[LoveMakesYouEvil backstory and motivation]] contrasted with [[MagnificentBastard what those things turned him into]].



** Yui Ikari also qualifies, thanks to certain scenes during the End of Evangelion.

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** Yui Ikari also qualifies, thanks to certain scenes during the End ''End of Evangelion.Evangelion''.



* MisaimedFandom
** Rei Ayanami, as noted under {{Moe}} below. This was arguably because she was portrayed sympathetically; instead of thinking she was creepy, [[TheWoobie viewers wanted to give her a hug]].

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* MisaimedFandom
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MisaimedFandom: Rei Ayanami, as noted under {{Moe}} below. This was arguably because she was portrayed sympathetically; instead of thinking she was creepy, [[TheWoobie viewers wanted to give her a hug]].



** [[{{Tsundere}} Asuka]] was by no means the most pleasant [[{{JerkassWoobie}} character]] in the series but she had her [[{{PettheDog}} sympathetic]] [[{{FriendshipMoment}} moments.]] However in many fanfics, [[{{DieforOurShip}} particularly those that ship Shinji with another character]], she is portrayed as a [[{{Jerkass}} constantly ticked]], [[{{DomesticAbuser}} physically abusive]], psycho who is unworthy of Shinji's affections and [[{{BreaktheHaughty}} needs to be put in her place]] often with {{no sympathy}} for her [[{{FreudianExcuse}} tragic backstory.]]

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** [[{{Tsundere}} Asuka]] was by no means the most pleasant [[{{JerkassWoobie}} [[JerkassWoobie character]] in the series but she had her [[{{PettheDog}} [[PetTheDog sympathetic]] [[{{FriendshipMoment}} moments.]] [[FriendshipMoment moments]]. However in many fanfics, [[{{DieforOurShip}} [[DieForOurShip particularly those that ship Shinji with another character]], she is portrayed as a [[{{Jerkass}} constantly ticked]], [[{{DomesticAbuser}} [[DomesticAbuser physically abusive]], abusive]] psycho who is unworthy of Shinji's affections and [[{{BreaktheHaughty}} [[BreakTheHaughty needs to be put in her place]] often with {{no sympathy}} for her [[{{FreudianExcuse}} [[FreudianExcuse tragic backstory.]]



* ShipsThatPassInTheNight : see CrackPairing above.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight : ShipsThatPassInTheNight: see CrackPairing above.



* UncannyValley: Anno wrote and designed Rei to serve as this. For the major part -- which is really an {{Understatement}} -- it ''completely and utterly failed''. Even so, there are still people here and there who see her as creepy and inhumane.

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* UncannyValley: Anno wrote and designed Rei to serve as this. For the major part -- which is really an {{Understatement}} understatement -- it ''completely and utterly failed''. Even so, there are still people here and there who see her as creepy and inhumane.



* UnwantedHarem: Being the only major fighting male pilot in the series [[spoiler: that lasts the whole series]], Shinji is often hooked up with the female cast, even if some are ''way'' too old for him.

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* UnwantedHarem: Being the only major fighting male pilot in the series [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that lasts the whole series]], Shinji is often hooked up with the female cast, even if some are ''way'' too old for him.



* {{Wangst}}: This is a common complaint about the show, ''especially'' about Shinji himself. Of course, opinions on whether the characters' have justified reasons for their angst are subjective, like other things on the show. Shinji is a very special case when it comes to {{Wangst}} designation, in that people agree that the amount of Shinji's angst is completely justified considering [[TraumaCongaLine what happens to him]], but they still find it excessive anyway. Asuka also gets stuck with the same situation, and it seems to be one of the more inevitable consequences of having a DysfunctionJunction series with such a high Dysfunction[=/=]Instability quotient that it's a wonder any of the characters can actually function at ''all''.

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* {{Wangst}}: This is a common complaint about the show, ''especially'' about Shinji himself. Of course, opinions on whether the characters' characters have justified reasons for their angst are subjective, like other things on the show. Shinji is a very special case when it comes to {{Wangst}} designation, in that people agree that the amount of Shinji's angst is completely justified considering [[TraumaCongaLine what happens to him]], but they still find it excessive anyway. Asuka also gets stuck with the same situation, and it seems to be one of the more inevitable consequences of having a DysfunctionJunction series with such a high Dysfunction[=/=]Instability quotient that it's a wonder any of the characters can actually function at ''all''.



** JerkassWoobie: Asuka. She even provides the page image. The original anime's Gendo is sometimes considered one too due to his [[LoveMakesYouEvil backstory and motivation]] contrasted with [[MagnificentBastard what those things turned him into]].



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A high possibility exists of feeling this, because the show goes out of its way to deny the characters any happiness (and if they ''do'' obtain it, expect it [[YankTheDogsChain to be taken away from them with extreme prejudice in short order]]), "everything goes FromBadToWorse" is an ''understatement'', the BigBadEnsemble holds all the cards throughout the show and in the end, by all means and purposes, ''win'' (except for the little detail [[spoiler:that Rei gives control of Third Impact to Shinji instead of Gendo-but Shinji is so shattered by then that the ending is a very small reed of hope in [[GainaxEnding an insanely weird and depressive sea of uncertainty]].]])

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A high possibility exists of feeling this, because the show goes out of its way to deny the characters any happiness (and if they ''do'' obtain it, expect it [[YankTheDogsChain to be taken away from them with extreme prejudice in short order]]), "everything goes FromBadToWorse" is an ''understatement'', the BigBadEnsemble holds all the cards throughout the show and in the end, by all means and purposes, ''win'' (except for the little detail [[spoiler:that Rei gives control of Third Impact to Shinji instead of Gendo-but Gendo--but Shinji is so shattered by then that the ending is a very small reed of hope in [[GainaxEnding an insanely weird and depressive sea of uncertainty]].]])



** ''Evangelion'' and ''Anime/{{RahXephon}}'' fans are rather contentious towards each other given how much ''[=RahXephon=]'' borrows from ''Eva''. This of course is rather ironic given how their respective directors are good friends who worked on many projects together.

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** ''Evangelion'' and ''Anime/{{RahXephon}}'' ''Anime/RahXephon'' fans are rather contentious towards each other given how much ''[=RahXephon=]'' borrows from ''Eva''. This of course is rather ironic given how their respective directors are good friends who worked on many projects together.



** Armisael shifts from a halo-form into a single tentacle that tries to... "stab" Unit-00. And then there's all the sexual imagery and implications, both between the angel psychologically contacting Rei in a similar -- but far less nightmarish -- way to Arael contacting Asuka, and attempting physical contact with Unit-00 in order to revive her sister angels...

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** Armisael shifts from a halo-form into a single tentacle that tries to... "stab" Unit-00. And then there's all the sexual imagery and implications, both between the angel Angel psychologically contacting Rei in a similar -- but far less nightmarish -- way to Arael contacting Asuka, and attempting physical contact with Unit-00 in order to revive her sister angels...



** Especially because [[HarsherInHindsight he may actually be right]]. [[spoiler: As it's revealed towards the end of the series that the Eva's all have to have the souls of their pilot's mother inside them, this means that ParentalAbandonment is essentially a requirement to qualify as an Eva pilot.]]
* GrowingTheBeard: The first half of the show is a fairly straightforward -- albeit highly entertaining -- character-driven mecha series. Starting around episodes 14 and 15, the focus shifts decisively from the MonsterOfTheWeek battles onto the relationships, internal struggles, and schemes of the characters as the pacing picks up, the action and drama become more intense, and the series gets [[CerebusSyndrome progressively darker]]. It's in the latter half of the series that it develops an identity truly its own.

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** Especially because [[HarsherInHindsight he may actually be right]]. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As it's revealed towards the end of the series that the Eva's Evas all have to have the souls of their pilot's mother inside them, this means that ParentalAbandonment is essentially a requirement to qualify as an Eva pilot.]]
* GrowingTheBeard: GrowingTheBeard:
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The first half of the show is a fairly straightforward -- albeit highly entertaining -- character-driven mecha series. Starting around episodes 14 and 15, the focus shifts decisively from the MonsterOfTheWeek battles onto the relationships, internal struggles, and schemes of the characters as the pacing picks up, the action and drama become more intense, and the series gets [[CerebusSyndrome progressively darker]]. It's in the latter half of the series that it develops an identity truly its own.



* HarsherInHindsight: Shinji utters this quote in the DVD release in response to the series' GainaxEnding:
-->Shinji: ''"Okay, the movie better sure as Hell make up for this, I'm telling you right now, 'cause I'm stuck in Nowhereland!"''

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Shinji utters this quote in the DVD release in response to the series' GainaxEnding:
-->Shinji: ''"Okay, --->'''Shinji''': Okay, the movie better sure as Hell make up for this, I'm telling you right now, 'cause I'm stuck in Nowhereland!"''Nowhereland!



* HilariousInHindsight: Aoba's Instrumentality scene can be downright hilarious once you realize his (English) voice actor is married to Rei's (English) [[Creator/AmandaWinnLee voice actress]]. Let the Freudian subtext wash over you.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Aoba's Instrumentality scene can be downright hilarious once you realize his (English) voice actor is married to Rei's (English) [[Creator/AmandaWinnLee voice actress]]. Let the Freudian subtext wash over you.



** Shinji fights angels and arguably [[spoiler:falls in love with one]] (or, in the manga, [[spoiler:admits to being attracted to one]]). Megumi Ogata, who voiced Shinji, later voiced [[spoiler:[[Manga/CardcaptorSakura the angelesque Yue]], plus the [[SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan person-shaped can]] he’s sealed in, Yukito Tsukishiro]]. Even more hillarious when you compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQNSLB3Lpk NGE’s intro]] and [[spoiler:''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''’s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjCFvaNwJQ third intro]]]].

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** Shinji fights angels Angels and arguably [[spoiler:falls in love with one]] (or, in the manga, [[spoiler:admits to being attracted to one]]). Megumi Ogata, who voiced Shinji, later voiced [[spoiler:[[Manga/CardcaptorSakura the angelesque Yue]], plus the [[SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan person-shaped can]] he’s sealed in, Yukito Tsukishiro]]. Even more hillarious when you compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQNSLB3Lpk NGE’s intro]] and [[spoiler:''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''’s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjCFvaNwJQ third intro]]]].



** The fandom doesn't show any signs of forgiving Shinji for [[spoiler:[[DudeShesLikeInAComa masturbating over Asuka while she was comatose]]]] anytime soon, even though he explicitly stated himself that was disgusted with what he had just done.

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** The fandom doesn't show any signs of forgiving Shinji for [[spoiler:[[DudeShesLikeInAComa masturbating over Asuka while she was comatose]]]] anytime soon, even though he explicitly stated himself that he was disgusted with what he had just done.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: When it comes to using religious symbolism so haphazardly, such as where every Angel explodes to the point where you'd start thinking it was VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} laying the fatmans. Now, before you hit the edit key, think: how many times did the crucifix relate to the scene it appeared in? (EverybodyIsJesusInPurgatory notwithstanding)

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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When it comes to using religious symbolism so haphazardly, such as where every Angel explodes to the point where you'd start thinking it was VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} laying the fatmans. Now, before you hit the edit key, think: how many times did the crucifix relate to the scene it appeared in? (EverybodyIsJesusInPurgatory notwithstanding)



* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: More likely is that series was made because HideakiAnno ''wasn't'' taking his meds.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: More likely is that series was made because HideakiAnno Creator/HideakiAnno ''wasn't'' taking his meds.



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12th Apr '16 6:59:16 PM CyberXIII
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** Kaji, to a lesser degree.
** Toji Suzuhara is also popular. Maybe the reason he ultimately ended up more important than his classmates Kensuke and Hikari.

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** Kaji, to a lesser degree.
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degree. Toji Suzuhara is also popular. Maybe the reason he ultimately ended up more important than his classmates Kensuke and Hikari.
** On the villainous side, the Angel Zeruel and Ramiel are incredibly popular to this day.
23rd Mar '16 9:27:07 AM N8han11
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* CrazyAwesome: In direct opposition to the above trope is the more recent trend in fanon to think of/portray Shinji as this. {{Manga/Shinji}} [[Manga/RaisingProject This isn't as unprecedented as one might think]].

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* CrazyAwesome: In direct opposition to the above trope is the more recent trend in fanon to think of/portray Shinji as this. {{Manga/Shinji}} [[Manga/RaisingProject This isn't as unprecedented as one might think]].
26th Feb '16 1:13:07 PM eliaskelham
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** ''Eva'' has the reputation of "that one robot show that nobody understands". In reality, it's actually pretty easy to understand on the surface; it's only when you start looking deeper, and more into the symbolism of things, that it starts getting rather confusing. Supplementary information has also been released to clear up some of the more confusing areas... [[NoExportForYou but only in Japan]].

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** ''Eva'' has the reputation of "that one robot show that nobody understands". In reality, it's actually pretty easy to understand on the surface; surface, at least until the ending; it's only when you start looking deeper, and more into the symbolism of things, that it starts getting rather confusing. Supplementary information has also been released to clear up some of the more confusing areas... [[NoExportForYou but only in Japan]].
26th Feb '16 1:11:24 PM eliaskelham
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** The English dub also takes some time to grow its beard. For the first few episodes it is admittedly rather clumsy and over-the-top (albeit no more so than most dubs of its time), leading many viewers to dismiss it entirely and question why it was ever so well-loved in the first place. Around the time of Asuka's introduction it starts noticeably improving, and the main cast become progressively better as the series goes on, until by the end of the show they are delivering the iconic, emotional performances that fans love them for.



** The English dub also takes some time to grow its beard. For the first few episodes it is admittedly rather clumsy and over-the-top (albeit no more so than most dubs of its time), leading many viewers to dismiss it entirely and question why it was ever so well-loved in the first place. Around the time of Asuka's introduction it starts noticeably improving, and the main cast become progressively better as the series goes on, until by the end of the show they are delivering the iconic, emotional performances that fans love them for.
26th Feb '16 1:00:04 PM eliaskelham
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* MemeticLoser: Shinji was meant to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of a typical anime action hero, a guy who really wasn't cut out for fighting horrifying monsters and who suffered extreme emotional problems because of it. He also lacks a backbone when dealing with the other characters, and almost never stands up for himself. Some viewers expected he would come onto his own like Simon above, but the angst fest the series became means he only got more and more screwed up. It's a topic of heavy debate whether he was an effective examination of his character type, or if he was just too whiny [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic to be sympathetic]]. Pretty much every spin off (including the manga and ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies) writes Shinji to be more confident, which makes it seem like it wasn't just the casual viewers who had a problem with his portrayal. Heck, even his [[Creator/SpikeSpencer English VA]] got annoyed with him for it. [[note]]"I musn't run away, I musn't run away". Let's analyze this, where the fuck would I ''go''?[[/note]]

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* MemeticLoser: Shinji was meant to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of a typical anime action hero, a guy who really wasn't cut out for fighting horrifying monsters and who suffered extreme emotional problems because of it. He also lacks a backbone when dealing with the other characters, and almost never stands up for himself. Some viewers expected he would come onto his own like Simon above, but the angst fest the series became means he only got more and more screwed up. It's a topic of heavy debate whether he was an effective examination of his character type, or if he was just too whiny [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic to be sympathetic]]. Pretty much every spin off (including the manga and ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movies) writes Shinji to be more confident, which makes it seem like it wasn't just the casual viewers who had a problem with his portrayal. Heck, even his [[Creator/SpikeSpencer English VA]] got annoyed with him for it. [[note]]"I musn't run away, I musn't run away". Let's analyze this, where the fuck would I ''go''?[[/note]]
6th Feb '16 2:17:39 PM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: It goes without saying that ''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' is [[Creator/HideakiAnno Hideaki Anno]]'s greatest and most influential work, the [[BrokenBase Broken Base]]'s disagreements notwithstanding.
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