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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The idea of the magic bearing characters being temporarily BroughtDownToNormal could have made for interesting development (having only been dabbled with a couple of times before with Twilight). However the status of the characters without their powers is referred to only briefly, with the focus more on Tirek's rampage. Granted the fact Discord couldn't care less about losing his magic compared to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone betraying and losing his friends]] was enormous CharacterDevelopment in itself.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
** The idea of the magic bearing characters being temporarily BroughtDownToNormal could have made for interesting development (having only been dabbled with a couple of times before with Twilight). However the status of the characters without their powers is referred to only briefly, with the focus more on Tirek's rampage. Granted the fact Discord couldn't care less about losing his magic compared to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone betraying and losing his friends]] was enormous CharacterDevelopment initself.itself.
** The Mane Six's open hostility toward Discord all season long could have been acknowledged as a possible reason for Discord's betrayal and something for them to own up to, but it's never even mentioned.
** The idea of the magic bearing characters being temporarily BroughtDownToNormal could have made for interesting development (having only been dabbled with a couple of times before with Twilight). However the status of the characters without their powers is referred to only briefly, with the focus more on Tirek's rampage. Granted the fact Discord couldn't care less about losing his magic compared to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone betraying and losing his friends]] was enormous CharacterDevelopment in
** The Mane Six's open hostility toward Discord all season long could have been acknowledged as a possible reason for Discord's betrayal and something for them to own up to, but it's never even mentioned.
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** Did Discord really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.
** Another possibility is that he was following whatever whim struck him. You know, god of chaos and all.
** Another possibility is that he was following whatever whim struck him. You know, god of chaos and all.
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** Did Discord really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.
**reason. Another possibility is that he was following whatever whim struck him. You know, god of chaos and all.all.
** Was Discord [[FaceHeelTurn siding with Tirek]] a deliberate betrayal of his friends, or did (save Fluttershy) [[TheFriendNobodyLikes none of them actually liking him]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Celestia claiming she had him freed because he could be useful]] make Tirek's [[HannibalLecture argument that their "friendship" was just a way to keep him in line]] seem legit? Helping is that seeing Shining Armor and Fluttershy [[EtTuBrute shocked and hurt by his betrayal]] caused Discord to [[HeelRealization regret his actions]].
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** Was Discord [[FaceHeelTurn siding with Tirek]] a deliberate betrayal of his friends, or did (save Fluttershy) [[TheFriendNobodyLikes none of them actually liking him]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Celestia claiming she had him freed because he could be useful]] make Tirek's [[HannibalLecture argument that their "friendship" was just a way to keep him in line]] seem legit? Helping is that seeing Shining Armor and Fluttershy [[EtTuBrute shocked and hurt by his betrayal]] caused Discord to [[HeelRealization regret his actions]].
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* MagnumOpus: Twilight's Kingdom is generally considered among the finest of the ''Friendship Is Magic'' 2-Parters, and a satisfactory finish to the Fourth season. Of course, this has proven to be a ToughActToFollow for the Fifth Season afterwards and it's Two parters in particular.
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* MagnumOpus: Twilight's Kingdom is generally considered among the finest of the ''Friendship Is Magic'' 2-Parters, and a satisfactory finish to the Fourth season. Of course, this has proven to be a ToughActToFollow for the Fifth Season afterwards and it's Two parters in particular.
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** Was Lord Tirek planning to betray Discord from the start or did he feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?
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** Was Lord Tirek planning to betray Discord from the start or did he feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?Twilight? In that same perspective, was his disgust towards his brother betraying him and Twilight protecting the traitorous Discord MoralMyopia, or simply him inferring AtLeastIAdmitIt about the half heartedness of their supposed friendship.
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** Interestingly inverted with Discord. You'd think betraying all of Equestria to Tirek, including Fluttershy, would count as this, but due to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone his recurring remorse]] and reaction to Tirek betraying him not only make him sympathetic, but solidify his HeelFaceTurn.
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** Interestingly inverted with Discord. You'd think betraying all of Equestria to Tirek, including Fluttershy, would count as this, but due to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone his recurring remorse]] and reaction to Tirek betraying him not only make him sympathetic, but solidify his HeelFaceTurn. It helps he only sided with Tirek due to seeing him as a genuine friend.
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** The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
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** The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one. Many agree that the advertising versions of Rainbow Power, which feature everything but the large hair, look much less silly.
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*** Another possibility is that he was following whatever whim struck him, you know, god of chaos and all.
** Was the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight left by Celestia in a moment of carelessness and haste? Or did the pony master of the BatmanGambit deliberately set up the Twi vs. Tirek conflict, to help her get the final key? It might be stretching it, but she might also have set up Discord against Tirek in a BatmanGambit as well.
** Was the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight left by Celestia in a moment of carelessness and haste? Or did the pony master of the BatmanGambit deliberately set up the Twi vs. Tirek conflict, to help her get the final key? It might be stretching it, but she might also have set up Discord against Tirek in a BatmanGambit as well.
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** Some of Twilight's magic blasts seem eerily similar to [[VideoGame/MyLittlePonyFightingIsMagic Twilight's "Story Arc Climax" super in Fighting is Magic]]. Doubly hilarious because the fight ''is'' the climax of the story.
** The dynamics of the battle between Twilight and Tirek, and the relative scale of the opponents, are much like those of the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8 Death Battle between Rainbow Dash and Starscream]].
** Twilight's wobbly efforts at lowering the moon and raising the sun are similar to Twilight's lunar "puppet show" in the WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft short "Star Waving Mad".
** The first spell Twilight uses on Tirek looks suspiciously like a [[Fanfic/FalloutEquestria balefire bomb]].
* {{HSQ}}: Everything from the Golden Oaks Library's destruction and the fight scene that follows is definitely not the sort of thing most would think would ever appear in the show.
** The dynamics of the battle between Twilight and Tirek, and the relative scale of the opponents, are much like those of the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8 Death Battle between Rainbow Dash and Starscream]].
** Twilight's wobbly efforts at lowering the moon and raising the sun are similar to Twilight's lunar "puppet show" in the WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft short "Star Waving Mad".
** The first spell Twilight uses on Tirek looks suspiciously like a [[Fanfic/FalloutEquestria balefire bomb]].
* {{HSQ}}: Everything from the Golden Oaks Library's destruction and the fight scene that follows is definitely not the sort of thing most would think would ever appear in the show.
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** Some of Twilight's magic blasts seem eerily similar to [[VideoGame/MyLittlePonyFightingIsMagic Twilight's "Story Arc Climax" super in ''[[VideoGame/MyLittlePonyFightingIsMagic Fighting is Magic]].Is Magic]]''. Doubly hilarious because the fight ''is'' the climax of the story.
** The dynamics of the battle between Twilight and Tirek, and the relative scale of the opponents, are much like those of the ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8Death Battle between Rainbow Dash and Starscream]].
** Twilight's wobbly efforts at lowering the moon and raising the sun are similar to Twilight's lunar "puppet show" in theWebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' short "Star Waving Mad".
** The first spell Twilight uses on Tirek looks suspiciously like a[[Fanfic/FalloutEquestria balefire bomb]].
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** Everything from the Golden Oaks Library's destruction and the fight scene that follows is definitely not the sort of thing most would think would ever appear in the show.
** The dynamics of the battle between Twilight and Tirek, and the relative scale of the opponents, are much like those of the ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8
** Twilight's wobbly efforts at lowering the moon and raising the sun are similar to Twilight's lunar "puppet show" in the
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* MoralEventHorizon: If [[{{Satan}} Lord Tirek]] hadn't crossed this already, he certainly did when he imprisoned Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike, drained their magic, betrayed Discord, ''and'' drained him of his magic. Even earlier than that, he banishes Celestia, Luna, and Cadance to Tartarus, even though they have no magic and are powerless to do anything against him.
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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
** If [[{{Satan}} Lord Tirek]] hadn't crossed this already, he certainly did when he imprisoned Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike, drained their magic, betrayed Discord, ''and'' drained him of his magic. Even earlier than that, he banishes Celestia, Luna, and Cadance to Tartarus, even though they have no magic and are powerless to do anything against him.
** If [[{{Satan}} Lord Tirek]] hadn't crossed this already, he certainly did when he imprisoned Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike, drained their magic, betrayed Discord, ''and'' drained him of his magic. Even earlier than that, he banishes Celestia, Luna, and Cadance to Tartarus, even though they have no magic and are powerless to do anything against him.
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* {{Narm}}: The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
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** The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
** The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Let's just say it's obvious where a fair chunk of Season 4's budget went. The effects in these two episodes are some of the greatest yet seen.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: A very common comment from bronies reacting to the Twilight vs. Tirek fight was "Is that a little girls show?" Seriously, almost all of them (from Website/YouTube videos) say some variation of this.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: A very common comment from bronies reacting to the Twilight vs. Tirek fight was "Is that a little girls show?" Seriously, almost all of them (from Website/YouTube videos) say some variation of this.
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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}/NarmCharm: The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
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** Was the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight left by Celestia in a moment of carelessness and haste? Or did the pony master of the BatmanGambit deliberately set up the Twi vs. Tirek conflict, to help her get the final key?
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** Was the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight left by Celestia in a moment of carelessness and haste? Or did the pony master of the BatmanGambit deliberately set up the Twi vs. Tirek conflict, to help her get the final key?key? It might be stretching it, but she might also have set up Discord against Tirek in a BatmanGambit as well.
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* {{Narm}}: The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair.
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* {{Narm}}: The SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair. They've been compared to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolutions]], for one.
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** The final battle with Tirek is wildly noted for its ''Dragon Ball Z'' influences, which was cool; making the ponies go Super Saiyan just made it extra silly on top of looking ridiculous.
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** The final battle with Tirek is wildly widely noted for its ''Dragon Ball Z'' influences, which was cool; making the ponies go Super Saiyan just made it extra silly on top of looking ridiculous.
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* MoralEventHorizon: If [[{{Satan}} Lord Tirek]] hadn't crossed this already, he certainly did when he [[spoiler:imprisoned Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike, drained their magic, betrayed Discord ''and'' drained him of his magic]]. Even earlier than that, he [[spoiler:banishes Celestia, Luna, and Cadence to Tartarus, even though they have no magic and are powerless to do anything against him.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: If [[{{Satan}} Lord Tirek]] hadn't crossed this already, he certainly did when he [[spoiler:imprisoned imprisoned Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike, drained their magic, betrayed Discord Discord, ''and'' drained him of his magic]]. magic. Even earlier than that, he [[spoiler:banishes banishes Celestia, Luna, and Cadence Cadance to Tartarus, even though they have no magic and are powerless to do anything against him.]]
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** Was Lord Tirek [[spoiler:planning to betray Discord from the start]] or did he [[spoiler:feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?]]
** Did Discord [[spoiler: really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.]]
** Did Discord [[spoiler: really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.]]
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** Was Lord Tirek [[spoiler:planning planning to betray Discord from the start]] start or did he [[spoiler:feel feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?]]
Twilight?
** Did Discord[[spoiler: really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.]]
** Did Discord
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those opposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those opposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those opposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship.
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** Interestingly inverted with [[spoiler:Discord. You'd think betraying all of Equestria to Tirek, including Fluttershy, would count as this, but due to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone his recurring remorse]] and reaction to Tirek betraying him not only make him sympathetic, but solidify his HeelFaceTurn.]]
* {{Narm}}: The [[spoiler: SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair.]]
** Plus, [[spoiler:despite Twilight's transformation being saved for last, she actually looks the ''least'' different, with just a couple new highlights in her mane and tail.]]
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The destruction of Golden Oaks Library]] qualifies as one. It been the HomeBase for Twilight since [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E2ElementsOfHarmony very beginning]] we've come to known and now it's gone.
* {{Narm}}: The [[spoiler: SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair.]]
** Plus, [[spoiler:despite Twilight's transformation being saved for last, she actually looks the ''least'' different, with just a couple new highlights in her mane and tail.]]
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The destruction of Golden Oaks Library]] qualifies as one. It been the HomeBase for Twilight since [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E2ElementsOfHarmony very beginning]] we've come to known and now it's gone.
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** Interestingly inverted with [[spoiler:Discord. Discord. You'd think betraying all of Equestria to Tirek, including Fluttershy, would count as this, but due to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone his recurring remorse]] and reaction to Tirek betraying him not only make him sympathetic, but solidify his HeelFaceTurn.]]
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* {{Narm}}: The[[spoiler: SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly, what with the EightiesHair.]]
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** Plus,[[spoiler:despite despite Twilight's transformation being saved for last, she actually looks the ''least'' different, with just a couple new highlights in her mane and tail.]]
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* TearJerker:[[spoiler: The destruction of Golden Oaks Library]] Library qualifies as one. It It's been the HomeBase for Twilight since [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E2ElementsOfHarmony very beginning]] we've come to known and now it's gone.
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** Was the stained glass window with depicting Princess Twilight left by Celestia (and Discord) in a moment of carelessness, or carelessness and haste? Or [[spoiler:Did the pony master of the BatmanGambit deliberately set up the Twi vs. Tirek conflict, to help her get the final key?]]
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** Did Discord [[spoiler: really join Tirek because he wanted to, or was it all part of his plan to help Twilight find her key? He was savvy enough to lead them to discover the other keys through their journal after all. In all it may seem a bit out of character for him to simply fall for Tirek's plan like that. And he may have omitted Twilight at first for this very reason.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Lord Tirek [[spoiler:planning to betray Discord from start]] or did he [[spoiler:feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Lord Tirek [[spoiler:planning to betray Discord from the start]] or did he [[spoiler:feel betrayed when he learned that Discord was omitting info on Twilight?]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: For thoseoppposed opposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those
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** As is Tirak causing the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight to ''melt''.
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** As is Tirak Tirek causing the stained glass window depicting Princess Twilight to ''melt''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends ''including Spike'' will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: Discord seems to get no punishment at all for screwing ''the world'' by helping Tirek for a time.
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it can\'t be a saving throw, these episodes were likely completed long before the season began and the fan complaints began
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.
** For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
**AuthorsSavingThrow: For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]
** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.]]
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** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.
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*KarmaHoudini: Discord seems to get no punishment at all for screwing ''the world'' by helping Tirek for a time.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
** For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.]]]]
** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.
** For those oppposed to Twilight becoming an alicorn princess, a commonly cited argument was that it felt like the show was putting Twilight above her friends, which they felt not only seemed like favoritism from the writers, but went against the show's defining theme of friendship. [[spoiler: The revelation that Twilight's friends will apparently be ruling alongside her in her role as the Princess of Friendship may be an attempt to address this.
** Similarly, a lot of fans complaints earlier in the season revolved around the fact that despite being a Princess, Twilight didn't really ''do'' much of anything in that role. Then this episode rolled around, making a plot point out of the fact that Twilight feels the same way.
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* {{Narm}}: The [[spoiler: SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly.]] Mercifully, they aren't permanent.
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* {{Narm}}: The [[spoiler: SuperMode forms of the Mane Six when they unlock the chest. Sure it's a cool moment, but they just look silly.silly, what with the EightiesHair.]] Mercifully, they aren't permanent.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The destruction of Golden Oaks Library]] qualifies as one. It been the HomeBase for Twilight since [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E2ElementsOfHarmony very beginning]] we've come to known and now it's gone.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: The destruction of Golden Oaks Library]] qualifies as one. It been the HomeBase for Twilight since [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E2ElementsOfHarmony very beginning]] we've come to known and now it's gone.gone.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Let's just say it's obvious where a fair chunk of Season 4's budget went. The effects in these two episodes are some of the greatest yet seen.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Let's just say it's obvious where a fair chunk of Season 4's budget went. The effects in these two episodes are some of the greatest yet seen.