History YMMV / Mockingbird

* WhatAnIdiot: Can't people actually EXPLAIN stuff to Caitlin in ways she can actually understand instead of just expecting her to just ''know'' what to do? Because this is what gets her in trouble and makes her more misunderstood!

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The book constantly stresses these messages.
** It's better to understand people and get to know them better rather than jump to conclusions about them and judge them harshly without hearing how they feel about it.
** Don't demonize people for things they have nothing to do with. All it does is hurt their feelings.
** Just because people are different and have slightly inappropriate ways of expressing themselves does '''NOT''' mean they're bad, heartless, mean, or incapable of empathy.

!!For the Marvel comic book

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Jim [=McCann=] and Brian Michael Bendis essentially reinvented Bobbi when she reappeared following ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion''. She had not been well-served by her previous arcs in the 1980s, but [=McCann=] in particular reinforced her espionage training and ruthlessness.
* BrokenBase:
** Mockingbird #8 reveals that [[spoiler: Bobbi wasn't drugged and raped by the Phantom Rider, instead she cheated on Clint with him and just let Clint believe she had been raped, because it was easier for Clint to believe that than to believe that he had been cheated on.]] Rape aside, fans are divided on whether this is a good or bad thing as some feel this changes Bobbi [[spoiler:from being a strong survivor to a cheating wife. In addition, Bobbi casually waves off the fact that she killed Phantom Rider despite their encounter now being consensual.]] - on the other hand, others think this erases a somewhat cheap piece of RapeAsDrama, even if the execution was botched, though then others argue that Bobbi's rape was [[FairForItsDay actually handled well for the time]], and find the implication that she can't be a strong hero if she's been raped is quite insulting towards rape and sexual assault survivors.
** In general, Bobbi's recent StrawFeminist characterisation has been controversial, following Chelsea Cain's brief run, and her appearances in other books like ''ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan'' and ''ComicBook/UnstoppableWasp''. As such some fans (either due to agreeing with the politics or simply [[EnsembleDarkhorse already adoring her character prior to this political push]]) like this about her, while others (either due to being anti-feminist or even feminists/social justice advocates who dislike the handling of this aspect) ''really'' dislike this. Cain's ongoing and Slott's Spider-Man are particularly sour points due to being the most StrawFeminist examples, while ''Unstoppable Wasp'' plays it more as just YouGoGirl.
* DieForOurShip: Because ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' has been so successful, and as such been seen by many who never read the comics, Bobbi has recently been getting slated by fans of [[PortmanteauCoupleName BlackHawk[=/=]Clintasha]] for the slight of being Clint's wife in the comics. From being villainized to becoming an AlphaBitch in HighSchoolAU fics, its now almost impossible to find a fanfic that includes Bobbi that doesn't involve her being attacked and bashed, sadly. Likely this will be mitigated somewhat by her joining ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''
** Saying that, some Clint/Bobbi fans have not taken kindly to [[ComicBook/SpiderWoman Jessica moving in on him.]] Its generally not so bad, since a lot of them liked her before Bendis began pairing the two, they just want her out of the way. Doesn't help that Jess is replacing her on the Secret Avengers, and its been confirmed that there's no plans with her right now, meaning she's stuck in limbo before someone brings her back.
** In ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', Lance Hunter, who in the MCU is now Bobbi's ex-husband, has been getting some flack from Hawkingbird shippers for taking Clint's role as the ex-husband. Not helped by him being fairly similar to Clint, and the two having some similarities in how their relationship with Bobbi is portrayed.
*** Interestingly though, Hawkeye's wife has not received much hatred, or at least not as vocal of hatred as those against Lance Hunter, at least not from Hawkingbird shippers (less can be said for other Clint shippers on that front). The fact people seemed to expect her and the kids to die in [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Civil War]] probably explains that.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mockingbird has gained a lot of hype after she was revealed to be joining the show's cast for ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' Season 2. [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=poll&id=250 CBR's SDCC announcement poll]] actually has her announcement as the ''highest'' rated announcement of the second day, even beating Creator/SamRaimi's ''Franchise/EvilDead'' TV series announcement, ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' season 5 trailer reveal, and ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' sequel announcements. When she appeared, it became the most highly-regarded episode of the show, and has instantly became a fan-favourite, even among people not familiar with the comics.
** She was also this in ''ComicBook/SecretAvengers''; despite having almost no advertisements and being one of the only three characters in the story who weren't in the films yet despite the vary blatant pandering to film fans (the other two being Taskmaster and Daisy Johnson, both of whom were no slouches in fan acceptance either), she easily attracted the most fan attention due to being a fun character who got a good few moments to shine in the earlier issues. She arguably became the BreakoutCharacter due to the amount of focus she got later, including an arc focusing on her, but this ended when she was PutOnTheBus when a creative team change happened.
** When ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' featured her for an episode, fan response was so positive, the writers decided to bring her back for the second season with a much bigger role in their take on the Secret Invasion story arc, and took the place of Spider-Woman in the story.
* FanPreferredCouple: While Clint is probably her most popular shipping partner thanks to once being an OfficialCouple with him, she's got quite a few people who instead ship her with Franchise/SpiderMan, ComicBook/BlackWidow, and ComicBook/BuckyBarnes.
* IronWoobie: Lets see...Before she got married, she was in a coma after an explosion, and decided to fake her death so her mother and brother don't have to deal with the dangers of her life. She was drugged and raped when lost in time, leading her to allow the man responsible to die. Then the spirit of her rapist came to her husband and gave him a half story, making it sound like it was a cold blooded kill, resulting in her and Clint's marriage to break down. Just as she was filing the divorce papers, she was abducted by the Skrulls, who played mind games with her at first (with two skrulls using the identities of her teammates so they could try to trick her into sleeping with one), before leaving her on a Skrull planet. She spent years being hunted by them until they found her and tortured her, ending with her killing a Skrull with her bare hands as it took the form of her husband. She eventually escaped but found herself unable to fully adapt to all the changes to the world and had to relive past issues with her now-ex husband (who believed the two were still married). After reuniting with Clint, however, the spirit of her rapist comes back, while Clint's well intentioned attempt to help her resulting in her mom and brother finding out the truth, leading the former to get shot, and the latter to declare he wishes she really was dead, putting her on a slippery slope that ends with the two breaking up again. ''Then'', she gets shot on a mission, to which she nearly died, and the only way to save her leaves her immortal, meaning that, unless they gain immortality as well, she will outlive all of her friends. For someone just barely out of the C-Lister category, she's got one shitload of issues.
* LesYay: Her and ComicBook/BlackWidow. When they worked together briefly in one story, they both couldn't help but think that the other is pretty, while Natasha once kissed her to free her from being controlled by brainwashing nanites (and admits later that she didn't ''have'' to kiss her, and there were alternatives), and was fairly caring towards her when her mind was breaking down thanks to what happens in Secret Avengers. The two don't spend much time together, but when they do they tend to have chemistry. May be a case of IfItsYouItsOkay.
** Bobbi and Janet Van Dyne, ComicBook/TheWasp, moreso. Admittedly Janet has this [[TheTease with virtually everyone]], but besides the fact Janet was the only Avengers besides Clint who was shown to ''remember'' her after her death, the two are always shown very chummy. The apex is ''Unstoppable Wasp'' Volume 2, where the two are more-or-less co-parenting Nadia and Ying (and the rest of GIRL Labs), and lampshade the fact they're practically a married couple (the only reminder of their heterosexuality being that Janet was dating Tony Stark at the time).
* MyRealDaddy: Mark Gruenwald in the 80s deserves credit for taking a minor SHIELD agent character who had fallen into ComicBookLimbo and reinventing her as a costumed superhero and DistaffCounterpart to Hawkeye, who she then married and became a popular BattleCouple with. Jim [=McCann=] deserves credit too for reviving her in the 2000s and reaffirming her spy routes, and playing her up as a BrokenBird badass. Chelsea Cain's run is also something that has firmly left an imprint on her character, for better or worse.
* {{Narm}}: [[https://i2.wp.com/themarvelreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/mockingbird-8-g.png The feminist zombie pirates]] in her recent series, who complain that they are not allowed to kill her because they think that's sexist.
* OlderThanTheyThink: Mockingbird is occasionally accused of being a ComicBook/BlackCanary rip-off who was created so that she could date Hawkeye, despite Bobbi Morse having first appeared as a scientist and SHIELD agent in Astonishing Tales in 1971, nine years before she became Mockingbird and twelve years before she even met Hawkeye.
** Some assume that Chelsea Cain was the one who framed Bobbi as a 'feminist' character, but back in the West Coast Avengers days Bobbi was never shy about calling Clint out on chauvinistic behaviour or standing up for herself against sexist jerks like US Agent. Cain's run, though, is arguably guilty of being the most ''performative'' about it, given the issues with how it handled Phantom Rider.
* TearJerker:
** Bobbi's mother being shot and her brother refusing to let her see her unless she gives up her life as a spy.
** The Skrulls impersonating Bobbi get some as well, with another Skrull telling Bobbi that they honestly believed that they were the real deal, to the extent that one died saving Clint (shortly after saving Wanda) and the second died believing that the man she loved shot her dead.
** During their fight in Hawkeye & Mockingbird, the Phantom Rider tells Bobbi that she's wanted to die ever since he found out what he did to her. Bobbi doesn't refute the claim.
** Secret Avengers has her being left behind on AIM Island with no one but Hill, Coulson, and Taskmaster knowing she's there while she has no memory, but this gets topped in #13 by the way she acts while Taskmaster tries to get her off the island. Even at her most distraught, Bobbi's always had emotion, be it cocky bluntness or raging anger, but after Forsen's apparently had her undergo serious MindRape, she's just, blank. She doesn't respond to anything anyone says, has a ThousandYardStare at the sand while cuddling her knees like a scared little girl. This confident, cocky fighter being reduced to such a broken figure, its frightening to say the least, and only topped [[spoiler: at the end, when under Forsen's control, she shoots Taskmaster dead.]]
** At one point Bobbi was pregnant and had a miscarriage.
--> '''Bobbi''': Me and my husband, we figured his or her birthday would have been October 12th. We really wanted that kid and October 12th... That... would have been a nice day.
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Borders on out-of-universe OvershadowedByAwesome; due to not being one of the most well-known Avengers, and not appearing in the MCU until the second season of ''Agents of SHIELD'', Bobbi is a very obscure character, and its not helped by the fact that Marvel have rarely given her much of a solo push independent of Hawkeye. As such, as well-received as she has been, there's been a VocalMinority of MCU fans who've quickly dismissed her on the grounds she's not Black Widow, and couldn't possibly be as good as Natasha for the simple fact she wasn't introduced with her.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: Her AllNewAllDifferentMarvel redesign hasn't been well received. It seems to be an attempt to make her look more like a bird, but instead it looks like an awkward attempt at redesigning a [[GenderBender Rule 63]] Nightwing. Strangely, Bobbi's look in ''Agents of SHIELD'' has been reasonably well received (if with a few critics), so you'd think they'd model the design after ''that''. This has faded a bit as the design became more streamlined prior to her ongoing starting, though after that the extent of how well it works depends on the artist.

** Mockingbird #8 reveals that [[spoiler: Bobbi wasn't drugged and raped by the Phantom Rider, instead she cheated on Clint with him and just let Clint believe she had been raped, because it was easier for Clint to believe that than to believe that he had been cheated on.]] Rape aside, fans are divided on whether this is a good or bad thing as some feel this changes Bobbi [[spoiler:from being a strong survivor to a cheating wife. In addition, Bobbi casually waves off the fact that she killed Phantom Rider despite their encounter now being consensual.]] - on the other hand, others think this erases a somewhat cheap piece of RapeAsDrama, even if the execution was botched.
** In general, Bobbi's recent 'feminist' take has been controversial. Following Chelsea Cain's brief run, the character became ''very'' vocally feminist, sometimes to a StrawFeminist level, in her appearances in other books like ''ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan'' and ''ComicBook/UnstoppableWasp''. As such some fans (either due to agreeing with the politics or simply [[EnsembleDarkhorse already adoring her character prior to this political push]]) like this about her, while others (either due to being anti-feminist or even feminists/social justice advocates who dislike the handling of this aspect) ''really'' dislike this. Cain's ongoing and Slott's Spider-Man are particularly sour points.

* IronWoobie: Lets see...Before she got married, she was in a coma after an explosion, and decided to fake her death so her mother and brother don't have to deal with the dangers of her life. She was drugged and raped when lost in time, leading her to allow the man responsible to die. Then the spirit of her rapist came to her husband and gave him a half story, making it sound like it was a cold blooded kill, resulting in her and Clint's marriage to break down. Just as she was filing the divorce papers, she was abducted by the Skrulls, who played mind games with her at first (with two skrulls using the identities of her teammates so they could try to trick her into sleeping with one), before leaving her on a Skrull planet. She spent years being hunted by them until they found her and tortured her, ending with her killing a Skrull with her bare hands as it took the form of her husband. She eventually escaped but found herself unable to fully adapt to all the changes to the world and had to relive past issues with her now-ex husband (who believed the two were still married). After reuniting with Clint, however, the spirit of her rapist comes back, while Clint's well intentioned attempt to help her resulting in her mom and brother finding out the truth, leading the former to get shot, and the latter to declar he wishes she really was dead, putting her on a slippery slope that ends with the two breaking up again. Then, she gets shot on a mission, to which she nearly died, and the only way to save her leaves her immortal, meaning that, unless they gain immortality as well, she will outlive all of her friends. For someone just barely out of the C-Lister catagory, she's got one shitload of issues.
* LesYay: Her and ComicBook/BlackWidow. When they first met, they both couldn't help but think that the other is pretty, while Natasha once kissed her to free her from being controlled by brainwashing nanites (and admits later that she didn't ''have'' to kiss her, and there were alternatives), and was fairly caring towards her when her mind was breaking down thanks to what happens in Secret Avengers. The two don't spend much time together, but when they do they tend to have chemistry. May be a case of IfItsYouItsOkay.

* WTHCostumingDepartment: Her AllNewAllDifferentMarvel redesign hasn't been well received. It seems to be an attempt to make her look more like a bird, but instead it looks like an awkward attempt at redesigning a [[GenderBender Rule 63]] Nightwing. Strangely, Bobbi's look in ''Agents of SHIELD'' has been reasonably well received (if with a few critics), so you'd think they'd model the design after ''that''. This has faded a bit as the design became more streamlined prior to her ongoing starting.

** In general, Bobbi's recent 'feminist' take has been controversial, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment as to be expected]]. Following Chelsea Cain's brief run, the character became ''very'' vocally feminist, sometimes to a StrawFeminist level, in her appearances in other books like ''ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan'' and ''ComicBook/UnstoppableWasp''. As such some fans (either due to agreeing with the politics or simply [[EnsembleDarkhorse already adoring her character prior to this political push]]) like this about her, while others (either due to being anti-feminist or even feminists/social justice advocates who dislike the handling of this aspect) ''really'' dislike this. Cain's ongoing and Slott's Spider-Man are particularly sour points.

** In general, Bobbi's recent 'feminist' take has been controversial, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment as to be expected]]. Following Chelsea Cain's brief run, the character became ''very'' vocally feminist, sometimes to a StrawFeminist level, in her appearances in other books like ''ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan'' and ''UnstoppableWasp''. As such some fans (either due to agreeing with the politics or simply [[EnsembleDarkhorse already adoring her character prior to this political push]]) like this about her, while others (either due to being anti-feminist or even feminists/social justice advocates who dislike the handling of this aspect) ''really'' dislike this. Cain's ongoing and Slott's Spider-Man are particularly sour points.

* LesYay: Her and ComicBook/BlackWidow. When they first met, they both couldn't help but think that the other is pretty, while Natasha once kissed her to free her from being controlled by brainwashing nanites (and admits later that she didn't ''have'' to kiss her, and there were alternatives), and was fairly caring towards her when her mind was breaking down thanks to what happens in Secret Avengers. The two don't spend much time together, but when they do they tend to have chemistry. May be a case of Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

* LesYay: Her and ComicBook/BlackWidow. When they first met, they both couldn't help but think that the other is pretty, while Natasha once kissed her to free her from being controlled by brainwashing nanites (and admits later that she didn't ''have'' to kiss her, and there were alternatives), and was fairly caring towards her when her mind was breaking down thanks to what happens in Secret Avengers. The two don't spend much time together, but when they do they tend to have chemistry.

* FanPreferredCouple: While Clint is probably her most popular shipping partner thanks to once being an OfficialCouple with him, she's got quite a few people who instead ship her with SpiderMan, ComicBook/BlackWidow, and ComicBook/BuckyBarnes.

* InternetBackdraft:
** From her depiction in the MCU and ''Agents of SHIELD'':
*** When they released the first image of Adrianne Palicki as Mockingbird, fan response seemed to be a mix between those complaining about her not being blonde, to those complaining about her being described as 'Head of HYDRA security', to those telling the others to calm down because its pretty obvious she's undercover.
*** Her costume's reveal resulted in something similar. There's a [[BrokenBase big divide]] on if this is a cool look for her or a case of WTHCostumingDepartment.
*** Lance Hunter taking Clint's place as her ex husband in the series also hasn't been particularly well-received, primarily because he acts ''just like Clint'' in their relationship. While many aren't against the idea by itself, writing him as an expy of Clint has put a number of people off. Cain's run on the series hung a major lampshade on their similarities and mostly had it PlayedForLaughs.
** And from the comics:
*** How ''ComicBook/SecretAvengers Vol 2'' ends, with Bobbi's identity being called into question, her being missing and going on adventures with Bucky and Daisy, only for her to not appear in Bucky's new ongoing ''or'' in any other comics, not even Secret Avengers, has lead to a number of people getting pissed at her being PutOnABus. Its not helped by the fact that Ales Kot has confirmed that he's got no plans to use her in either Winter Soldier or Secret Avengers, ''and'' that Marvel's Editor in Chief Axel Alonso has confirmed that they've not made plans for her anywhere else either. For reference, Alonso, when asked if we'd be seeing Wolverine's resurrection any time soon, confirmed that they've made plans for ''two years ahead'' with nothing in mind for Wolverine; if they've got things planned up to 2016, and nothing is planned for Bobbi, it looks like she won't be appearing on-panel, at least not in any major capacity, for quite some time.
*** Connected to the above, there's a similar issue her fanbase has brought up, concerning the lack of any solo outings for her. Despite over forty years of publication, positive reception to all of her appearances, and now her appearing regularly on TV, Bobbi has ''never'' had an ongoing, or even a miniseries, just dedicated to her. This is at least migated in 2015 where, following her appearances in ''Agents of SHIELD'', she's now getting several action figures, a one-shot special, and now an ongoing following the success of said one-shot.
*** Conversely, the character received some significant HypeBacklash after this push thanks to the feminist tone of the series. Even to this day some anti-social justice fans express a lot of bitter ridicule towards the series.

** In general, Bobbi's recent 'feminist' take has been controversial, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement as to be expected]]. Following Chelsea Cain's brief run, the character became ''very'' vocally feminist, sometimes to a StrawFeminist level, in her appearances in other books like ''ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan'' and ''UnstoppableWasp''. As such some fans (either due to agreeing with the politics or simply [[EnsembleDarkhorse already adoring her character prior to this political push]]) like this about her, while others (either due to being anti-feminist or even feminists/social justice advocates who dislike the handling of this aspect) ''really'' dislike this. Cain's ongoing and Slott's Spider-Man are particularly sour points.

** Mockingbird #8 reveals that [[spoiler: Bobbi wasn't drugged and raped by the Phantom Rider, instead she cheated on Clint with him and just let Clint believe she had been raped, because it was easier for Clint to believe that than to believe that he had been cheated on.]] Rape aside, fans are divided on whether this is a good or bad thing as some feel this changes Bobbi [[spoiler:from being a strong survivor to a cheating wife. In addition, Bobbi casually waves off the fact that she killed Phantom Rider despite their encounter now being consensual.]] - on the other hand, others think this erases a somewhat cheap piece of RapeAsDrama.

* BrokenBase: Mockingbird #8 reveals that [[spoiler: Bobbi wasn't drugged and raped by the Phantom Rider, instead she cheated on Clint with him and just let Clint believe she had been raped, because it was easier for Clint to believe that than to believe that he had been cheated on.]] Rape aside, fans are divided on whether this is a good or bad thing as some feel this changes Bobbi [[spoiler:from being a strong survivor to a cheating wife. In addition, Bobbi casually waves off the fact that she killed Phantom Rider depite their encounter being consensual.]] - on the other hand, others think this erases a somewhat cheap piece of RapeAsDrama.

*** Connected to the above, there's a similar issue her fanbase has brought up, concerning the lack of any solo outings for her. Despite over forty years of publication, positive reception to all of her appearances, and now her appearing regularly on TV, Bobbi has ''never'' had an ongoing, or even a miniseries, just dedicated to her. This is at least migated in 2015 where, following her appearances in ''Agents of SHIELD'', she's now getting several action figures, a one-shot special, and now an ongoing following the success of said one-shot, ignoring the dozens of heroins that were
*** Unfortunately for fans the solo comic was canceled after only a few issues. Critics of the comic site poor pacing as its major flaw. There was a BrokenBase over whether the feminist take on the character was good or not.

** Secret Avengers has her being left behind on AIM Island with no one but Hill, Coulson, and Taskmaster knowing she's there while she has no memory, but this gets topped in #13 by the way she acts while Taskmaster tries to get her off the island. Even at her most distraught, Bobbi's always had emotion, be it cocky bluntness or raging anger, but after Forsen's apparently had her undergo serious MindRape, she's just, blank. She doesn't respond to anything anyone says, has a ThousandMileStare at the sand while cuddling her knees like a scared little girl. This confident, cocky fighter being reduced to such a broken figure, its frightening to say the least, and only topped [[spoiler: at the end, when under Forsen's control, she shoots Taskmaster dead.]]

* BrokenBase: Mockingbird #8 reveals that [[spoiler: Bobbi wasn't drugged and raped by the Phantom Rider, instead she cheated on Clint with him and just let Clint believe she had been raped, because it was easier for Clint to believe that than to believe that he had been cheated on.]] Rape aside, fans are divided on whether this is a good or bad thing as some feel this changes Bobbi [[spoiler:from being a strong survivor to a cheating wife. In addition, Bobbi casually waves off the fact that Clint killed Phantom Rider over this]] - on the other hand, others think this erases a somewhat cheap piece of RapeAsDrama.