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* BrokenBase: The 2007 VS 2018 HGUC Gundam Ground Type kit. Is the remake even necessary since the 2007 release is already excellent, or the 2018 release is better since it features better color separation (notably the knees) and proportions?
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* In late March 2019, [[https://twitter.com/kusokaisetu/status/1111295743996760064 This piece of fanart]] based on one of the opening's shots also became a meme by Twitter artists, which they redraw the scene with other Gundam-type or other Mecha units from other series.

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* ** In late March 2019, [[https://twitter.com/kusokaisetu/status/1111295743996760064 This piece of fanart]] based on one of the opening's shots also became a meme by Twitter artists, which they redraw the scene with other Gundam-type or other Mecha units from other series.
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** In March 2019, the sideways view of the Gundam Ground Type firing the 180mm Cannon seen in the opening the also became a source of being redrawn by Twitter artists, mostly into other Gundam-type or other Mecha units from other series.

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** * In late March 2019, the sideways view [[https://twitter.com/kusokaisetu/status/1111295743996760064 This piece of fanart]] based on one of the Gundam Ground Type firing the 180mm Cannon seen in the opening the opening's shots also became a source of being redrawn meme by Twitter artists, mostly into which they redraw the scene with other Gundam-type or other Mecha units from other series.
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** In March 2019, the sideways view of the Gundam Ground Type firing the 180mm Cannon seen in the opening the also became a source of being redrawn, mostly into other Gundam-type units from other series.

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** In March 2019, the sideways view of the Gundam Ground Type firing the 180mm Cannon seen in the opening the also became a source of being redrawn, redrawn by Twitter artists, mostly into other Gundam-type or other Mecha units from other series.

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* MemeticMutation: [[BloodFromTheMouth Space]] [[SoapOperaDisease Aids.]]

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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[[BloodFromTheMouth Space]] [[SoapOperaDisease Aids.]]]]
** In March 2019, the sideways view of the Gundam Ground Type firing the 180mm Cannon seen in the opening the also became a source of being redrawn, mostly into other Gundam-type units from other series.
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* TheWoobie: Michel.

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* TheWoobie: Michel.
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Villain = intencional hate = not this.


* TheScrappy: both Ginias and Michel get a fair share of hate from most of the fandom. The former for his villainy, the latter for being perceived as a whiny and inexperienced kid.

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* TheScrappy: both Ginias and TheScrappy: Michel get a fair share of hate from most of the fandom. The former for his villainy, the latter fandom for being perceived as a whiny and inexperienced kid.


* HypeBacklash: While the fans are not amused to the fact that the upcoming HGUC Gouf Flight Type (a variant of the Gouf Custom kit) is being released as a P-Bandai exclusive (Though they would still buy it since the site allows international purchase), some of them had eventually lost faith in Bandai for it's unorthodox decision.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Ginias jumps off the deep-end in the last quarter of the series, starting with [[spoiler:blowing up Kellarny and his men]] when they attempted to leave the planet. This was after he denied them aide in evacuation.
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*CompleteMonster: [[YMMV/MobileSuitGundam Prince Gihren Zabi]]. See that page for details.
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** In the case of the Blu-Ray release; while ''some'' of the enhanced sound effects are praised, The majority of the changes (like the original Machine Gun's sound effects) has been mostly lambasted by the fans who grew up with the original SFXs.

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** In the case of the Blu-Ray release; while ''some'' of the enhanced sound effects are praised, The majority of the changes (like the original Machine Gun's sound effects) has been mostly lambasted by the fans who grew up with the original SFXs.sounds.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mostly on the merchandise side: Half of the Japanese modelers are not happy to the fact that the new HGUC GM Ground Type's head features a slight redesign on the "forehead" piece, which results in a slightly squinty look. The webshop exclusive HGUC Gundam Ground Type parachute pack however; features a more accurate design on the GM head.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mostly on TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** In the case of the Blu-Ray release; while ''some'' of the enhanced sound effects are praised, The majority of the changes (like the original Machine Gun's sound effects) has been mostly lambasted by the fans who grew up with the original SFXs.
** On
the merchandise side: Half of the Japanese modelers are not happy to the fact that the new HGUC GM Ground Type's head features a slight redesign on the "forehead" piece, which results in a slightly squinty look. The webshop exclusive HGUC Gundam Ground Type parachute pack however; features a more accurate design on the GM head.
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* BrokenBase: The 2007 VS 2018 HGUC Gundam Ground Type kit. Is the remake even necessary since the 2007 release is already excellent, or the 2018 release is better since it features better color separation (notably the knees) and proportions?
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** Shiro Amada also counts in several occasions, given his compassionate personality & his devoted love to Aina.

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** To fans who prefer the more realistically "unaware" characters like [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Bernie]], Shiro Amada also counts in several occasions, given his compassionate personality & his devoted love to Aina.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mostly on the merchandise side: Hslf of the Japanese modelers are not happy to the fact that the new HGUC GM Ground Type's head features a slight redesign on the "forehead" piece, which results in a slightly squinty look. The webshop exclusive HGUC Gundam Ground Type parachute pack however; features a more accurate design on the GM head.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mostly on the merchandise side: Hslf Half of the Japanese modelers are not happy to the fact that the new HGUC GM Ground Type's head features a slight redesign on the "forehead" piece, which results in a slightly squinty look. The webshop exclusive HGUC Gundam Ground Type parachute pack however; features a more accurate design on the GM head.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mostly on the merchandise side: Hslf of the Japanese modelers are not happy to the fact that the new HGUC GM Ground Type's head features a slight redesign on the "forehead" piece, which results in a slightly squinty look. The webshop exclusive HGUC Gundam Ground Type parachute pack however; features a more accurate design on the GM head.
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** To celebrate [[Franchise/{{Gundam}} Gundam's]] 40th anniversary, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHK NHK]] conducted a global poll in ranking all Gundam works in different catagories. ''Arashi no naka e Kagayaite'' ranked 5th place for Best Theme Song of the entire franchise.

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** To celebrate [[Franchise/{{Gundam}} Gundam's]] 40th anniversary, anniversary in year 2018, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHK NHK]] conducted a global poll in ranking all Gundam works in different catagories. ''Arashi no naka e Kagayaite'' ranked 5th place for Best Theme Song of the entire franchise.
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** To celebrate [[Franchise/{{Gundam}} Gundam's]] 40th anniversary, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHK NHK]] conducted a global poll in ranking all Gundam works in different catagories. ''Arashi no naka e Kagayaite'' ranked 5th place for Best Theme Song of the entire franchise.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: the way that the [=Ez8=] pulls out its Beam Saber in the Blu-Ray short.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: the way that the [=Ez8=] pulls out its the Beam Saber in the Blu-Ray short.



* HypeBacklash: While the fans are not amused to the fact that the upcoming HGUC Gouf Flight Type (a variant of the Gouf Custom kit) is being released as a P-Bandai exclusive, some of them had eventually lost faith in Bandai for it's unorthodox decision.

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* HypeBacklash: While the fans are not amused to the fact that the upcoming HGUC Gouf Flight Type (a variant of the Gouf Custom kit) is being released as a P-Bandai exclusive, exclusive (Though they would still buy it since the site allows international purchase), some of them had eventually lost faith in Bandai for it's unorthodox decision.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: the way that the Ez8 pulls out its Beam Saber in the Blu-Ray short.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: the way that the Ez8 [=Ez8=] pulls out its Beam Saber in the Blu-Ray short.


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* HypeBacklash: While the fans are not amused to the fact that the upcoming HGUC Gouf Flight Type (a variant of the Gouf Custom kit) is being released as a P-Bandai exclusive, some of them had eventually lost faith in Bandai for it's unorthodox decision.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: the way that the Ez8 pulls out its Beam Saber in the Blu-Ray short.
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** Shiro Amada also counts in several occasions, given his compassionate personality.

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** Shiro Amada also counts in several occasions, given his compassionate personality.personality & his devoted love to Aina.
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** Shiro Amada also counts too, given his compassionate personality.

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** Shiro Amada also counts too, in several occasions, given his compassionate personality.

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Updated Base Breaking character section.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkassWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ghinias BaseBreakingCharacter:
**Ghinias
Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkassWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.between.
**Shiro Amada also counts too, given his compassionate personality.
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The Ron The Death Eater entry is responding to a fandom attitude that doesn't seem to exist.


* RonTheDeathEater: Ginias is no saint, but some fans seem to think being a backstabbing, AxCrazy murderer also makes him the sole person who should take the blame for what happened to the Keregeren (even though Colonel Lyers is the one who chose to shoot that in retaliation instead of the Apsaras), physically and sexually abusive of Aina, worse than Giren Zabi and Char Aznable combined, and completely incapable and devoid of any genuine concern or love for anyone (which contradicts many of his scenes with Aina early in the series). He's a terrible person, but there's no need to condemn him for things he didn't actually do.
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* BaseBreaker: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkassWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkassWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.
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* MemeticBadass: Norris Packard. Having a first name which is a surname of [[ChuckNorris another Memetic Badass]] probably helps...

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* MemeticBadass: Norris Packard. Having a first name which is a surname of [[ChuckNorris [[Creator/ChuckNorris another Memetic Badass]] probably helps...

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Removed "Purity Sue", since it is now a Flame Bait example that should not be allowed; see "Flame Bait" page for more details.


* BaseBreaker: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkAssWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Chihiro Yonekura's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8mhvSO_fs Arashi no naka e Kagayaite]], the first OP.
** And the HotBlooded cover by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3YQsB8ALEE Masaki Endoh.]]

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* BaseBreaker: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkAssWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Chihiro Yonekura's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8mhvSO_fs Arashi no naka e Kagayaite]], the first OP.
** And the HotBlooded cover by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3YQsB8ALEE Masaki Endoh.]]Endoh]].
* BaseBreaker: Ghinias Sahalin. Either you think of him as pure evil, a TragicMonster / JerkassWoobie, or a DracoInLeatherPants. There's NOTHING in between.



* MemeticMutation: [[BloodFromTheMouth Space]] [[SoapOperaDisease Aids]].
* NightmareFuel: Your Mech has been disabled and its sensors destroyed, leaving you trapped in the coffin-like cockpit, completely blind as to what's going on outside, while you are absolutely aware that the enemy [[TheAce ace]] is standing right there ready to kill you like he has the last three opponents he faced in the last ten minutes. [[NothingIsScarier Nothing happens]]. Cue minor FreakOut.

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* MemeticMutation: [[BloodFromTheMouth Space]] [[SoapOperaDisease Aids]].
Aids.]]
* NightmareFuel: Your Mech has been disabled and its sensors destroyed, leaving you trapped in the coffin-like cockpit, completely blind as to what's going on outside, while you are absolutely aware that the enemy [[TheAce ace]] is standing right there ready to kill you like he has the last three opponents he faced in the last ten minutes. [[NothingIsScarier Nothing happens]]. happens.]] Cue minor FreakOut.



* PuritySue: Some takes on Aina get dangerously close.
* RonTheDeathEater: Ginias is no saint, but some fans seem to think being a backstabbing, AxeCrazy murderer also makes him the sole person who should take the blame for what happened to the Keregeren (even though Colonel Lyers is the one who chose to shoot that in retaliation instead of the Apsaras), physically and sexually abusive of Aina, worse than Giren Zabi and Char Aznable combined, and completely incapable and devoid of any genuine concern or love for anyone (which contradicts many of his scenes with Aina early in the series). He's a terrible person, but there's no need to condemn him for things he didn't actually do.

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* PuritySue: Some takes on Aina get dangerously close.
* RonTheDeathEater: Ginias is no saint, but some fans seem to think being a backstabbing, AxeCrazy AxCrazy murderer also makes him the sole person who should take the blame for what happened to the Keregeren (even though Colonel Lyers is the one who chose to shoot that in retaliation instead of the Apsaras), physically and sexually abusive of Aina, worse than Giren Zabi and Char Aznable combined, and completely incapable and devoid of any genuine concern or love for anyone (which contradicts many of his scenes with Aina early in the series). He's a terrible person, but there's no need to condemn him for things he didn't actually do.



* TheWoobie: Michel

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* TheWoobie: Michel
Michel.
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Not a YMMV trope.


* ILetGwenStacyDie: ''Defied!'' This is probably the only Gundam series where the main Gundam Pilot falls in love with a girl who pilots an enemy superweapon and the girl survives the entire series.
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* ILetGwenStacyDie: ''Defied!'' This is probably the only Gundam series where the main Gundam Pilot falls in love with a girl who pilots an enemy superweapon and the girl survives the entire series.

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** And then there was the wonderful time where you bear witness to the gas attacks as seen in ''VideoGame/GihrensGreed''.

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** And then there was the wonderful time where you bear witness to the gas attacks as seen in ''VideoGame/GihrensGreed''. Made even worse if one actually knows what nerve gas does and realizes that scene is itself something of GoryDiscretionShot.

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