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** In the The Neighborhood of Make Believe segments during the week of "Mister Rogers Goes To School" episodes, Lady Elaine convinces Anna, Prince and Daniel that they need to know everything before they go to school, drilling them in reading, writing and arithmetic before their first day and dismissing the notion that school children need playtime to aid in their learning. While it's done here for the sake of proving her wrong and that the opposite is true, people like her eventually won this argument and, in the years following Mister Rogers' death, public schools have essentially turned into testing factories which hyper-focus on preparing children as young as ''kindergarten'' for adulthood. Even non-academic activities (ie, sports, the arts) are expected to be extracurricular rather than merely fun.

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** In the The Neighborhood of Make Believe segments during the week of "Mister Rogers Goes To School" episodes, Lady Elaine convinces Anna, Prince and Daniel that they need to know everything before they go to school, drilling them in reading, writing and arithmetic before their first day and dismissing the notion that school children need playtime to aid in their learning. While it's done here for the sake of proving her wrong and that the opposite is true, people like her eventually won this argument and, in the years following Mister Rogers' death, public schools have essentially turned into testing factories which hyper-focus on preparing children as young as ''kindergarten'' for adulthood. Even non-academic activities (ie, sports, the arts) are expected to be extracurricular rather than merely fun.

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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: Mr. Rogers and his neighborhood have actually managed to avoid some of this - the show is just so unlike ''any'' children's programming, even today, that it's not too hard to see what was so special about it and it can still resonate with adults even today. However, there are still a few elements that can be difficult for children of the late [=20th=] century or the [=21st=] to really appreciate:
** First, and most significant, is Fred Rogers' quiet but ''dogged'' insistence on racial justice and equality and representing it on the show (and thus, making sure his message resonated with children of color as much as anyone). As noted a bit below, he was completely forthright about wanting to interact with and include folks of color on the show, including children. Today a lot of these examples can seem like normal diversity inclusions (and can sometimes come across as tokenism), but it has to be remembered that the main show launched in February 1968 - the civil rights movement was still in full swing at the time, and the Civil Rights Act wasn't even half a decade old. Rogers' insistence of including people of color at the time of the show's launch was ''utterly'' radical and he did, to use un-neighborly language, catch shit over it for much of the first years of the show's run. Rogers' trip to Congress to advocate for PBS funding was in part because some elements of Congress wanted to defund PBS ''because'' of this sort of content, and he more or less shamed them into letting him continue.
** Also, certain things like the show's episode on the Robert Kennedy assassination. Today some of these can just come across as {{Very Special Episode}}s. This would be because Fred Rogers basically ''invented'' the VSE. Prior to ''Neighborhood'', childrens' shows and wider childrens' content didn't tend to discuss "serious" or "traumatic" events ''at all'', this being seen as purely the domain of parents. Rogers was having none of it and realized that many working parents might not always have the time to contextualize things for children, especially in the faster-moving modern world, so he went out of his way to dedicate time to helping children contextualize and understand the events going on around them and things they would definitely encounter in their lives, like discussion of the Kennedy assassination. This was ''unbelievably'' radical in the [=60s=], and Rogers ate even more criticism for this than he did for the inclusion of people of color, but once again the simple, dogged effectiveness of it led to people instead learning that a well-executed VSE could be helpful (with a certain [[{{ComicStrip/Peanuts}} Charles Schulz]], in particular, deciding to [[WesternAnimation/WhyCharlieBrownWhy tackle the issue of cancer at the start of the 90s]]) and from there it was history.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Mr. Rogers and his neighborhood have actually managed to avoid some of this - the show is just so unlike ''any'' children's programming, even today, that it's not too hard to see what was so special about it and it can still resonate with adults even today. However, there are still a few elements that can be difficult for children of the late [=20th=] century or the [=21st=] to really appreciate:
** First, and most significant, is Fred Rogers' quiet but ''dogged'' insistence on racial justice and equality and representing it on the show (and thus, making sure his message resonated with children of color as much as anyone). As noted a bit below, he was completely forthright about wanting to interact with and include folks of color on the show, including children. Today a lot of these examples can seem like normal diversity inclusions (and can sometimes come across as tokenism), but it has to be remembered that the main show launched in February 1968 - the civil rights movement was still in full swing at the time, and the Civil Rights Act wasn't even half a decade old. Rogers' insistence of including people of color at the time of the show's launch was ''utterly'' radical and he did, to use un-neighborly language, catch shit over it for much of the first years of the show's run. Rogers' trip to Congress to advocate for PBS funding was in part because some elements of Congress wanted to defund PBS ''because'' of this sort of content, and he more or less shamed them into letting him continue.
** Also, certain things like the show's episode on the Robert Kennedy assassination. Today some of these can just come across as {{Very Special Episode}}s. This would be because Fred Rogers basically ''invented'' the VSE. Prior to ''Neighborhood'', childrens' shows and wider childrens' content didn't tend to discuss "serious" or "traumatic" events ''at all'', this being seen as purely the domain of parents. Rogers was having none of it and realized that many working parents might not always have the time to contextualize things for children, especially in the faster-moving modern world, so he went out of his way to dedicate time to helping children contextualize and understand the events going on around them and things they would definitely encounter in their lives, like discussion of the Kennedy assassination. This was ''unbelievably'' radical in the [=60s=], and Rogers ate even more criticism for this than he did for the inclusion of people of color, but once again the simple, dogged effectiveness of it led to people instead learning that a well-executed VSE could be helpful (with a certain [[{{ComicStrip/Peanuts}} Charles Schulz]], in particular, deciding to [[WesternAnimation/WhyCharlieBrownWhy tackle the issue of cancer at the start of the 90s]]) and from there it was history.
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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, was what inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write the song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: Watching "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, was what inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write the song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.
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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write the song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that was what inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write the song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.
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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write the song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]" three years prior.
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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}} to write "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]", three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}}'s song "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]", released three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}}'s song Music/{{Sting}} to write "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]", released three years prior.
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** Most of the background music was ''improvised live'' during taping by jazz pianist Johnny Costa. Refusing to play "kiddie music," Costa filled his accompaniments with sophisticated runs and flourishes. His arrangements were often compared to the legendary pianist Music/ArtTatum, which is about the biggest compliment a jazz pianist can get. In fact, Costa was given the nickname "the white Tatum"... by ''Art Tatum himself.'' Now that's awesome music.

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** Most of the background music was ''improvised live'' during taping by jazz pianist Johnny Costa. Refusing to play "kiddie music," music", Costa filled his accompaniments with sophisticated runs and flourishes. His arrangements were often compared to the legendary pianist Music/ArtTatum, which is about the biggest compliment a jazz pianist can get. In fact, Costa was given the nickname "the white Tatum"... by ''Art Tatum himself.'' Now that's awesome music.



* BigLippedAlligatorMoments: During one of the episodes about families, Mister Rogers plays a film depicting various families doing things like washing their car, having dinner and doing homework together. After it's over, he plays it again at double speed for seemingly no reason, then says that watching films this way makes him think "[[CaptainObvious funny fast film]]." He then sings "Please Don't Think It's Funny," making this either an awkward transition or [[RuleOfFunny something weird he did for a laugh]].

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoments: During one of the episodes about families, Mister Rogers plays a film depicting various families doing things like washing their car, having dinner and doing homework together. After it's over, he plays it again at double speed for seemingly no reason, then says that watching films this way makes him think "[[CaptainObvious funny fast film]]." film]]". He then sings "Please Don't Think It's Funny," Funny", making this either an awkward transition or [[RuleOfFunny something weird he did for a laugh]].



** Speaking of other PBS shows, in the "Mister Rogers Goes To School" episodes, both he and the Neighborhood of Make Believe character make a big fuss over the quasi-sentient trolly being dressed up like a school bus. Fifteen years later, PBS would air [[Literature/TheMagicSchoolBus an even more popular show where a quasi-sentient school bus (which can do things that are only possible in make-believe) is a main character]]. Even more appropriate, Mister Rogers keeps referring to the trolly as "trolly school bus," which has the same rhythm as "Magic School Bus."

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** Speaking of other PBS shows, in the "Mister Rogers Goes To School" episodes, both he and the Neighborhood of Make Believe character make a big fuss over the quasi-sentient trolly being dressed up like a school bus. Fifteen years later, PBS would air [[Literature/TheMagicSchoolBus an even more popular show where a quasi-sentient school bus (which can do things that are only possible in make-believe) is a main character]]. Even more appropriate, Mister Rogers keeps referring to the trolly as "trolly school bus," bus", which has the same rhythm as "Magic School Bus."Bus".



** When George took Mister Rogers to the premiere of Dawn of the Dead, Romero was living in dread all movie long about what he was going to say. In pure Mister Rogers fashion, his review was "That was a great deal of fun."

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** When George took Mister Rogers to the premiere of Dawn of the Dead, Romero was living in dread all movie long about what he was going to say. In pure Mister Rogers fashion, his review was "That was a great deal of fun."fun".



* ValuesDissonance: The song "Everybody's Fancy" would stir up controversy today over the lines "Boys are boys from the beginning, girls are girls right from the start" and "Only girls can be the mommies, only boys can be the daddies". It can also be a bit jarring to hear Mister Rogers frequently use politically-correct-for-the-time phrases like "he or she" or "his or her" rather than the now-more-widely-accepted "they/their/them." (Rogers himself seemingly recognized a bit of the issue with the song's gender essentialism in later years, getting rid of the "only" and revising the lyrics to "Girls grow up to be the mommies / Boys grow up to be the daddies.")

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* ValuesDissonance: The song "Everybody's Fancy" would stir up controversy today over the lines "Boys are boys from the beginning, girls are girls right from the start" and "Only girls can be the mommies, only boys can be the daddies". It can also be a bit jarring to hear Mister Rogers frequently use politically-correct-for-the-time phrases like "he or she" or "his or her" rather than the now-more-widely-accepted "they/their/them." "they/their/them" (Rogers himself seemingly recognized a bit of the issue with the song's gender essentialism in later years, getting rid of the "only" and revising the lyrics to "Girls grow up to be the mommies / Boys grow up to be the daddies.")daddies").



** Mister Rogers regularly acknowledged that people get angry and would ask his neighbors if they ever use the skills that they share as healthy ways to get negative feelings out of your system without harming yourself or others (for example, Mister Rogers himself plays piano or swims while Chuck Abor plays solo basketball). There were even two songs, "What Do You Do With The Mad That You Feel?" and "The Truth Will Set Me Free," about how it's okay to have negative feelings, so long as you know that they're ''your'' feelings. In the age of social media and the "outrage culture" which it encourages, learning how to manage anger, especially when it comes to being emotionally invested in important things like social justice and politics, may be the single most important lesson to take from this show.
** While the show was never [[{{Anvilicious}} overtly preachy]], author [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-g-long/the-radical-politics-of-mister-rogers-ten-fascinating-facts_b_7064322.html Michael Long]] has observed that Mr. Rogers often quietly advocated racial equality in the 60s. As one example, the character "Mayor Maggie of Southwood," played by African American actress Maggie Stewart, debuted in 1974, 14 years ''before'' the first African American woman became mayor of a major U.S. city in real life. The show also introduced Francois Clemmons, the first African-American regular on a children's program. An early appearance featured Mr. Rogers cooling his feet in a wading pool and inviting Officer Clemmons to join him. The camera then pans right in to show two pairs of feet side by side, sharing the same space as equals. Clemmons the ''actor'' was incredibly moved by this for years, understanding the significance of it in 1969[[note]]Remember, this was at a time when a good portion of white Americans explicitly refused to share pools with black people, and a sizeable portion of the remainder silently held the same belief, to the point where incidents like [[https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/ this]] could happen[[/note]]. It would so move him that in his final appearance on the show, the scene was recreated one more time and this time Rogers performed the symbolic act of drying Clemmons' feet with a towel.

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** Mister Rogers regularly acknowledged that people get angry and would ask his neighbors if they ever use the skills that they share as healthy ways to get negative feelings out of your system without harming yourself or others (for example, Mister Rogers himself plays piano or swims while Chuck Abor plays solo basketball). There were even two songs, "What Do You Do With The Mad That You Feel?" and "The Truth Will Set Me Free," Free", about how it's okay to have negative feelings, so long as you know that they're ''your'' feelings. In the age of social media and the "outrage culture" which it encourages, learning how to manage anger, especially when it comes to being emotionally invested in important things like social justice and politics, may be the single most important lesson to take from this show.
** While the show was never [[{{Anvilicious}} overtly preachy]], author [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-g-long/the-radical-politics-of-mister-rogers-ten-fascinating-facts_b_7064322.html Michael Long]] has observed that Mr. Rogers often quietly advocated racial equality in the 60s. As one example, the character "Mayor Maggie of Southwood," Southwood", played by African American actress Maggie Stewart, debuted in 1974, 14 years ''before'' the first African American woman became mayor of a major U.S. city in real life. The show also introduced Francois Clemmons, the first African-American regular on a children's program. An early appearance featured Mr. Rogers cooling his feet in a wading pool and inviting Officer Clemmons to join him. The camera then pans right in to show two pairs of feet side by side, sharing the same space as equals. Clemmons the ''actor'' was incredibly moved by this for years, understanding the significance of it in 1969[[note]]Remember, this was at a time when a good portion of white Americans explicitly refused to share pools with black people, and a sizeable portion of the remainder silently held the same belief, to the point where incidents like [[https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/ this]] could happen[[/note]]. It would so move him that in his final appearance on the show, the scene was recreated one more time and this time Rogers performed the symbolic act of drying Clemmons' feet with a towel.



* CreatorWorship: Many fans and people who grew up with the show practically regard Fred Rogers as [[PatronSaint a kind of saint]]. A common sentiment in profiles of Mr. Rogers is, "If [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Protestants]] had saints, Fred Rogers would have already been canonized." You can buy fan-made artwork that depicts Mr. Rogers as a religious icon, and a large fan group on Website/{{Reddit}} calls itself "The Church of Rogers." Meanwhile, a real Episcopal church Fred Rogers sometimes attended in Massachusetts actually does [[https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mister-rogers-icon-at-st-pauls-episcopal-church display a painting]] depicting him as a saint, complete with halo.

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* CreatorWorship: Many fans and people who grew up with the show practically regard Fred Rogers as [[PatronSaint a kind of saint]]. A common sentiment in profiles of Mr. Rogers is, "If [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} Protestants]] had saints, Fred Rogers would have already been canonized." canonized". You can buy fan-made artwork that depicts Mr. Rogers as a religious icon, and a large fan group on Website/{{Reddit}} calls itself "The Church of Rogers." Rogers". Meanwhile, a real Episcopal church Fred Rogers sometimes attended in Massachusetts actually does [[https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mister-rogers-icon-at-st-pauls-episcopal-church display a painting]] depicting him as a saint, complete with halo.
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* ValuesDissonance: The song "Everybody's Fancy" would stir up controversy today over the lines "Boys are boys from the beginning, girls are girls right from the start" and "Only girls can be the mommies, only boys can be the daddies". It can also be a bit jarring to hear Mister Rogers frequently use politically-correct-for-the-time phrases like "he or she" or "his or her" rather than the now-more-widely-accepted "they/their/them."

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* ValuesDissonance: The song "Everybody's Fancy" would stir up controversy today over the lines "Boys are boys from the beginning, girls are girls right from the start" and "Only girls can be the mommies, only boys can be the daddies". It can also be a bit jarring to hear Mister Rogers frequently use politically-correct-for-the-time phrases like "he or she" or "his or her" rather than the now-more-widely-accepted "they/their/them."" (Rogers himself seemingly recognized a bit of the issue with the song's gender essentialism in later years, getting rid of the "only" and revising the lyrics to "Girls grow up to be the mommies / Boys grow up to be the daddies.")
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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}}'s song "Russians", released three years prior.

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* GeniusBonus: "Goodnight Little Ones", the Russian children's show that Mr. Rogers visits during his trip to the Soviet Union in 1988, is the show that inspired Music/{{Sting}}'s song "Russians", "[[Music/TheDreamOfTheBlueTurtles Russians]]", released three years prior.
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* UnacceptableTargets: The Internet has some very raunchy places, but [[BerserkButton try to make fun of this man]] and the HiveMind will ''eat you alive.''
** Insulting Mr. Rogers will get you insta-banned on Website/FourChan.
** Fred Rogers [[ApprovalOfGod liked]] Creator/EddieMurphy's parody of his own show, "Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood." To be fair, it was an AffectionateParody, not deliberate and malicious mockery. Apparently, Eddie Murphy caught up with Mr. Rogers and told him, "You understand, we only do it because we love you."
** Johnny Carson also did a parody sketch where Mr. Rogers explained where babies come from, but it was also an AffectionateParody and unlikely any kids were up late enough to watch it.
** On the other hand, in the mid-eighties when Burger King made an ad with a Mister Rogers impersonator explaining why BK burgers were better than [=McDonald's=] burgers, Fred Rogers called up Don Dempsey, Executive Vice President in Charge of Marketing. This was due to the fact because the impersonator looked ''too'' much like the real him (at least enough to confuse a four-year-old) and he did not want kids to get confused or misled about the true nature of his work (it didn't help that the man himself was a staunch vegetarian and this fellow gotten up to look like him was hawking hamburgers). By comparison, obviously no kid is going to confuse Murphy for Rogers, and Murphy's sketch was broadcast safely out of the way of any typical child's viewing time.
** An infamous opening gag in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' featured Stewie terrorizing the Neighborhood of Make Believe and trying to kill Mister Rogers; even series creator Creator/SethMacFarlane thought it wasn't funny. Even so, Stewie's rampage turns out to be a DreamWithinADream, and it's Mister Rogers who gets [[MemeticBadass the last laugh]].
** Don't even think about repeating the UrbanLegend that the name "Mr. [=McFeely=]" is a [[HehHehYouSaidX coded innuendo]]. There's a special level of tastelessness for sick jokes about [[UnacceptableTargets Mr. Rogers' mother's maiden name]].
** Even when ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' parodied Mr. Rogers, they were ''quite'' cautious to avoid anything ''too'' out of character. Some people don't find the skit very funny, while some find it pretty funny.
** ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'' pitted Mr. Rogers against Mr. T, in a battle of the misters. Mr. Rogers is depicted as a playful individual who only gets serious when Mr. T accuses him of pedophilia, and even then [[TranquilFury he remains perfectly calm]] as he threatens to make Mr. T wear his ass for a hat on account of the obviously false accusation. He even shies away from profanity until the very end, when he lands a PrecisionFStrike when warning him about the consequences of [[BewareTheNiceOnes pissing off one of the nicest, most beloved men in modern history]].
** However, everyone is welcome to scratch their heads at [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/FredRogersStatueinPittsburghPA.jpg his statue on the North Shore]] in UsefulNotes/{{Pittsburgh}}, where many have said he looks more like a mud-golem....
** One reason why the Westboro Baptist Church is considered to be such an {{acceptable target|s}} by the Internet is because they are willing to attack Mister Rogers.
** There's also the urban legend about a pair of guys who stole his car, and when they realized who it belonged to immediately returned it and left an apology note.
** It's even lampshaded in ''A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood'' where a woman tells the journalist interviewing Mr. Rogers, "Don't you dare ruin my childhood." Nope, Mr. Rogers is untouchable.
** Likewise, a lot of people who otherwise agree with Creator/FoxNewsChannel were quick to criticize a report on ''Fox and Friends'' condemning Rogers.
** By his own admission, Rogers was pissed over the KKK trying to use a sound-alike to spread their beliefs and sued them.
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* SacredCow: A textbook example. While it wasn't always the case, Creator/FredRogers has been outright sanctified in the years since his death, thanks to how [[ValuesResonance germane]] the show's teachings continue to be, and saying anything negative about him to its now-adult viewers will ''not'' end well for you.[[note]]The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or a little too politically correct in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were.[[/note]]

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* SacredCow: A textbook example. While [[OnceAcceptableTarget it wasn't always the case]], Creator/FredRogers has been outright sanctified in the years since his death, thanks to how [[ValuesResonance germane]] the show's teachings continue to be, and saying anything negative about him to its now-adult viewers will ''not'' end well for you.

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* SacredCow: A textbook example. While [[OnceAcceptableTarget it wasn't always the case]], case, Creator/FredRogers has been outright sanctified in the years since his death, thanks to how [[ValuesResonance germane]] the show's teachings continue to be, and saying anything negative about him to its now-adult viewers will ''not'' end well for you.[[note]]The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or a little too politically correct in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were.[[/note]]



* OnceAcceptableTarget: The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or a little too politically correct in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were.
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* NightmareFuel: Some viewers were scared by some costumed characters like Bob Dog and Purple Panda, to the point where [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8bb9qHhHw one kindergarten class was put in tears]] when Purple Panda paid a surprise visit to their classroom.
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** Some viewers also had a childhood fear of the music that played when the EpisodeCodeNumber was shown at the end of older episodes[[note]]It was mainly used to show updated funding credits for organizations which had not provided funding at the time of production.[[/note]]. It didn't help that the oft-feared 1971 Creator/{{PBS}} VanityPlate used to directly follow this.
** Costume characters like Bob Dog and Purple Panda have also scared viewers, to the point where [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8bb9qHhHw one kindergarten class was put in tears]] when Purple Panda paid a surprise visit to their classroom.
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* CommonKnowledge: It's often believed that the [[BannedEpisode long-pulled from the air]] Conflict episodes were meant to help children deal with the graphic nature of the TV film ''Film/TheDayAfter'' (which depicts life before, during, and after a nuclear war between the United States and Soviet Union from the perspective of the people of Lawrence, Kansas), and the reason it was dropped was because it was no longer relevant. However, as mentioned on Wiki/TheOtherWiki, the original airdates of the two don't coincide with this idea; the first Conflict episode premiered November 7, 1983, where the movie aired November 20; due to the length of time required for making a typical episode, the chances of this being the case are incredibly small. According to the info conveyed during the Twitch stream, it was Fred Rogers himself that requested that the episodes were never ever shown again.

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* CommonKnowledge: It's often believed that the [[BannedEpisode long-pulled from the air]] Conflict episodes were meant to help children deal with the graphic nature of the TV film ''Film/TheDayAfter'' (which depicts life before, during, and after a nuclear war between the United States and Soviet Union from the perspective of the people of Lawrence, Kansas), and the reason it was dropped was because it was no longer relevant. However, as mentioned on Wiki/TheOtherWiki, Website/TheOtherWiki, the original airdates of the two don't coincide with this idea; the first Conflict episode premiered November 7, 1983, where the movie aired November 20; due to the length of time required for making a typical episode, the chances of this being the case are incredibly small. According to the info conveyed during the Twitch stream, it was Fred Rogers himself that requested that the episodes were never ever shown again.
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* OnceAcceptableTarget: The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad a little too politically correct]] in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were.

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* OnceAcceptableTarget: The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad a little too politically correct]] correct in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were.
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** While the values taught in the show are always considered timeless and are arguably just as important now as they were years ago, the show's slow-moving nature only seems to get more important as time goes on. It feels more true than ever now, in the age of the Internet and cell phones where it seems everyone has to have everything and have it right now. The show's roots certainly go back to a simpler time, but the show remained the same through the years for the better, even after the 80s and 90s brought about more fast-paced entertainment.
** Mister Rogers regularly acknowledged that people get angry and would ask his neighbors if they ever use the skills that they share as healthy ways get it negative feelings of your system without harming yourself or others (for example, Mister Rogers himself plays piano or swims while Chuck Abor plays solo basketball). There were even two songs, "What Do You Do With The Mad That You Feel?" and "The Truth Will Set Me Free," about how it's okay to have negative feelings, so long as you know that they're ''your'' feelings. In the age of social media and the "outrage culture" which it encourages, learning how manage anger, especially when it comes to being emotionally invested in important things like social justice and politics, may be the single most important lesson to take from this show.

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** While the values taught in the show are always considered timeless and are arguably just as important now as they were years ago, the show's slow-moving nature only seems to get more important as time goes on. It feels more true truer than ever now, in the age of the Internet and cell phones where it seems everyone has to have everything and have it right now. The show's roots certainly go back to a simpler time, but the show remained the same through the years for the better, even after the 80s and 90s brought about more fast-paced entertainment.
** Mister Rogers regularly acknowledged that people get angry and would ask his neighbors if they ever use the skills that they share as healthy ways to get it negative feelings out of your system without harming yourself or others (for example, Mister Rogers himself plays piano or swims while Chuck Abor plays solo basketball). There were even two songs, "What Do You Do With The Mad That You Feel?" and "The Truth Will Set Me Free," about how it's okay to have negative feelings, so long as you know that they're ''your'' feelings. In the age of social media and the "outrage culture" which it encourages, learning how to manage anger, especially when it comes to being emotionally invested in important things like social justice and politics, may be the single most important lesson to take from this show.
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** When George took Mister Rogers to the premiere of Dawn of the Dead, Romero was living in dread all movie long about what he was going to say. In pure Mister Rogers fashion, his review was "That was a great deal of fun."
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** On the other hand, in the mid-eighties when Burger King made an ad with a Mister Rogers impersonator explaining why BK burgers were better than [=McDonald's=] burgers, Fred Rogers called up Don Dempsey, Executive Vice President in Charge of Marketing. This was due to the fact because the impersonator looked ''too'' much like the real him (at least enough to confuse a four-year-old) and he did not want kids to get confused or misled about the true nature of his work (it didn't help that Rogers was an outspoken vegetarian and this fellow gotten up to look like him was hawking hamburgers). By comparison, obviously no kid is going to confuse Murphy for Rogers, and Murphy's sketch was broadcast safely out of the way of any typical child's viewing time.

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** On the other hand, in the mid-eighties when Burger King made an ad with a Mister Rogers impersonator explaining why BK burgers were better than [=McDonald's=] burgers, Fred Rogers called up Don Dempsey, Executive Vice President in Charge of Marketing. This was due to the fact because the impersonator looked ''too'' much like the real him (at least enough to confuse a four-year-old) and he did not want kids to get confused or misled about the true nature of his work (it didn't help that Rogers the man himself was an outspoken a staunch vegetarian and this fellow gotten up to look like him was hawking hamburgers). By comparison, obviously no kid is going to confuse Murphy for Rogers, and Murphy's sketch was broadcast safely out of the way of any typical child's viewing time.
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* LessDisturbingInContext: The infamous picture that appears to show Mr. Rogers FlippingTheBird at the camera. While the picture itself is indeed real, the context makes it quite innocent, as it simply appears in the middle of a familiar children's finger-play that involves raising your fingers one at a time ("Where is tall-man?"). Of course, some viewers speculate from his knowing grin at that moment that he knew perfectly well what the gesture would have meant out of context.

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* LessDisturbingInContext: The infamous picture that appears to show Mr. Rogers FlippingTheBird at the camera. While the picture itself is indeed real, genuine, it is not what the typical adult would think. The context makes it quite innocent, as it simply appears in the middle of a familiar children's finger-play that involves raising your fingers one at a time ("Where is tall-man?"). Of course, some viewers speculate from his knowing grin at that moment that he knew perfectly well what the gesture would have meant out of context.
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** On the other hand, in the mid-eighties when Burger King made an ad with a fake Mister Rogers explaining why BK burgers were better than [=McDonald's=] burgers, Fred Rogers called up Don Dempsey, Executive Vice President in Charge of Marketing. This was due to the fact because he looked ''too'' much like the real him, he did not want kids to get confused or misled about the true nature of his work (it didn't help that Rogers was an outspoken vegetarian). By comparison, obviously no kid is going to confuse Murphy for Rogers, and Murphy's sketch was broadcast safely out of the way of any typical child's viewing time.

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** On the other hand, in the mid-eighties when Burger King made an ad with a fake Mister Rogers impersonator explaining why BK burgers were better than [=McDonald's=] burgers, Fred Rogers called up Don Dempsey, Executive Vice President in Charge of Marketing. This was due to the fact because he the impersonator looked ''too'' much like the real him, him (at least enough to confuse a four-year-old) and he did not want kids to get confused or misled about the true nature of his work (it didn't help that Rogers was an outspoken vegetarian).vegetarian and this fellow gotten up to look like him was hawking hamburgers). By comparison, obviously no kid is going to confuse Murphy for Rogers, and Murphy's sketch was broadcast safely out of the way of any typical child's viewing time.
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** Even when ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' parodied Mr. Rogers, they were ''quite'' cautious to avoid anything ''too'' out of character. Some people don't find the skit very funny, while some find it ActuallyPrettyFunny.

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** Even when ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' parodied Mr. Rogers, they were ''quite'' cautious to avoid anything ''too'' out of character. Some people don't find the skit very funny, while some find it ActuallyPrettyFunny.pretty funny.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoments: During one of the episodes about families, Mister Rodgers plays a film depicting various families doing things like washing their car, having dinner and doing homework together. After it's over, he plays it again at double speed for seemingly no reason, then says that watching films this way makes him think "[[CaptainObvious funny fast film]]." He then sings "Please Don't Think It's Funny," making this either an awkward transition or [[RuleOfFunny something weird he did for a laugh]].

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoments: During one of the episodes about families, Mister Rodgers Rogers plays a film depicting various families doing things like washing their car, having dinner and doing homework together. After it's over, he plays it again at double speed for seemingly no reason, then says that watching films this way makes him think "[[CaptainObvious funny fast film]]." He then sings "Please Don't Think It's Funny," making this either an awkward transition or [[RuleOfFunny something weird he did for a laugh]].



** In one episode, while demonstrating how a chalkboard works, Mr. Rodgers asks Mr. [=McFeely=] where he thinks [[WesternAnimation/ChalkZone things go once they're erased from the chalkboard]].

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** In one episode, while demonstrating how a chalkboard works, Mr. Rodgers Rogers asks Mr. [=McFeely=] where he thinks [[WesternAnimation/ChalkZone things go once they're erased from the chalkboard]].



* SacredCow: A textbook example. While [[OnceAcceptableTarget it wasn't always the case]], Creator/FredRogers has been outright sanctified in the years since his death, thanks to how [[ValuesResonance germane]] the show's teachings continue to be, and saying anything negative about him to it's now-adult viewers will ''not'' end well for you.

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* SacredCow: A textbook example. While [[OnceAcceptableTarget it wasn't always the case]], Creator/FredRogers has been outright sanctified in the years since his death, thanks to how [[ValuesResonance germane]] the show's teachings continue to be, and saying anything negative about him to it's its now-adult viewers will ''not'' end well for you.
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* OnceAcceptableTarget: The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad a little too politically correct]] in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, [[SocietyMarchesOn such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were]].

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* OnceAcceptableTarget: The idea that Mister Rogers is one of those public figures that you simply don't make fun of is a relatively new development. Until about the mid-2010s, his gentle manner of speaking was mocked as sounding more lethargic than inviting and his unfalteringly earnest kindness was prime fodder for {{stock parody jokes}} either depicting him as secretly being a [[MemeticPsychopath violent sociopath or child abuser]] or snarking about how [[MemeticLoser hopelessly uncool he was]]. Along with ''Series/SesameStreet'' (and to a lesser extent, ''Series/BarneyAndFriends''), his name was also synonymous with anything that was "for babies" or [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad a little too politically correct]] in the 90s and 2000s, especially among those fond of [[RefugeInAudacity edgelord humor]]. Of course, as this page alone demonstrates, [[SocietyMarchesOn such jokes are no longer the crowd pleasers they once were]].were.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A 1975 episode had a troupe of acrobats perform for King Friday's birthday. One of the acrobats in question? A young Creator/MichaelKeaton, who actually worked as part of the show's floor crew before he left to pursue an acting career.

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** Creator/MingNaWen made her TV debut as a Royal Trumpeter.

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* AccidentalNightmareFuel:
** Some viewers also had a childhood fear of the music that played when the EpisodeCodeNumber was shown at the end of older episodes[[note]]It was mainly used to show updated funding credits for organizations which had not provided funding at the time of production.[[/note]]. It didn't help that the oft-feared 1971 Creator/{{PBS}} VanityPlate used to directly follow this.
** Costume characters like Bob Dog and Purple Panda have also scared viewers, to the point where [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8bb9qHhHw one kindergarten class was put in tears]] when Purple Panda paid a surprise visit to their classroom.



* NightmareFuel:
** Some viewers also had a childhood fear of the music that played when the EpisodeCodeNumber was shown at the end of older episodes[[note]]It was mainly used to show updated funding credits for organizations which had not provided funding at the time of production.[[/note]]. It didn't help that the oft-feared 1971 Creator/{{PBS}} VanityPlate used to directly follow this.
** Costume characters like Bob Dog and Purple Panda have also scared viewers, to the point where [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8bb9qHhHw one kindergarten class was put in tears]] when Purple Panda paid a surprise visit to their classroom.

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