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* DeaderThanDisco

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* DeaderThanDiscoDeaderThanDisco: Due to the series' abysmal second half.
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** In the third book, The Director said that they would give equality to all genders. Max thinks that there are only two genders, and that they must've created a new one. She goes on to say the thought was repulsive.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Anyone who knows anything about Game Boys could tell you that they don't have downloadable games, and certainly wouldn't have a bunch of them pre-installed if they did. And that you don't sell the display copy of a game console.


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* HilariousInHindsight: ''School's Out Forever'' has a scene where a kid at Disneyland mistakes Ari for Wolverine and asks for his autograph. Disney bought Marvel several years after the book was released.
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These aren\'t YMMV. Moving.


* {{Flanderization}}: Max and Fang get hit by this, hard. The most recent books have them becoming angstier and angstier over romance (usually over each other), wheras previously it took a back seat to whatever the other current plot thread was.



* {{Jerkass}}: Fang was veering dangerously close to this territory earlier on in the series. He flirted blatantly with several girls other than Max over the course of the series, but when ''she'' dated someone else, of course he became [[GreenEyedEpiphany ridiculously jealous]]. Not to mention the fact that when she finally complained to him about it for real, he acted as though nothing had happened and basically disregarded what she said.
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Shallow Love Interest is being renamed and misuse and bitching purged


** Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. Some of it is simply because gets in the way of Fang and Max being together, but as as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.

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** Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. Some of it is simply because gets in the way of Fang and Max being together, but as as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest [[SatelliteLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.
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* TheWoobie: For some, all the shit Ari's been through can really tugs on one's heartstrings. He's ''seven years old'', for Chrissake's.

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* TheWoobie: For some, all the shit Ari's been through can really tugs on one's heartstrings. He's ''seven years old'', for Chrissake's.old''.
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Removing mentions of \"adult series vs young adult series\". As I mentioned in a long-ago edit on the main page, the so-called \"adult series\" is a completely unrelated series by the same author that happens to have a character with the same name, and he\'s even got author\'s notes in the front saying so.


* CanonSue: Maximum Ride herself. The two different versions of her somehow manage to be Sueish in entirely different ways, though. The adult novel series, she's weird looking, but far more intelligent, capable, and brave. The young adult series swaps out some of the intelligence for fantastic leadership qualities, much better looks, kung-fu abilities, and super speed. No, really. And both versions of her date TroubledButCute winged boys.

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* CanonSue: Maximum Ride herself. The two different versions of her somehow manage to be Sueish in entirely different ways, though. The adult novel series, she's weird looking, but far more intelligent, capable, and brave. The young adult series swaps out some of the intelligence for She's got fantastic leadership qualities, much better good looks, kung-fu abilities, and super speed. No, really. And both versions of her date she dates TroubledButCute winged boys.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Max's Voice in her head (YA series).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Max's Voice in her head (YA series).head.
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** [[spoiler: This may change now that the final book has revealed the Voice to have been [[CreatorsPet Angel]] the entire time...]]
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** Interestingly, both are given TakeThatScrappy moments in the final books. [[spoiler: Maya has her throat torn out by a cloned Ari, and Dylan goes berserk, terrorizes a city and ''tries to strangle Fang''.]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys. Until Kate comes in ANGEL.
** Kate of Fang's new flock in the most recent book is actually pretty nice. And she has Superman-grade strength.

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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys. Until Kate comes in ANGEL.
ANGEL.
** Kate of Fang's new flock in the most recent book is actually pretty nice. And she has Superman-grade strength. [[spoiler: But in the last book, she betrays the gang as well.]]

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* ClicheStorm From the evil twin and the stereotyped characters to the boy drama, I think it's fair to apply this term to the YA series.

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* ClicheStorm ClicheStorm: From the evil twin and the stereotyped characters to the boy drama, I think it's fair to apply this term to the YA series.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Iggy and Gazzy leading the attack with hawks in the first book.
** Let's not forget the oil-slick Humvee crash.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Max's voice in her head (YA series).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Max's voice Voice in her head (YA series).



* FridgeLogic: How could the person in charge of the Itex institute be over 200 years old (because they have [[YouFailBiologyForever Galapagos tortoise DNA]]) if genetic engineering hadn't been invented yet?
** Wait, I thought she was 107, and suggested to have had it spliced in later in life.
*** Three words: ThoseWackyNazis!
**** [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Of course! Don't you know anything about SCIENCE?]]



** The series also is putting arguably too much focus on romance and, well, {{Wangst}} in a series once about Sci-Fi and action. The character [[TheScrappy Dylan]] serves ''only to fit this purpose'', and Fang becomes increasingly emo as the series goes on, even ''leaving the party'' at one point. This gets worse; [[TenMinuteRetirement he comes back in the very next book, making his disappearance even less effective.]] This isn't even touching Max, who was mostly perfectly fine in the earlier books, and complaining only occasionally got excessive. [[FlanderIzation Fast foward to the most recent books and all she does is whine about Fang and Dylan.]]
* {{The Scrappy}}: Max 2, aka Maya.
** And Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. Some of it is simply because gets in the way of Fang and Max being together, but as as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.

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** The series also is putting arguably too much focus on romance and, well, {{Wangst}} in a series once about Sci-Fi and action. The character [[TheScrappy Dylan]] serves ''only to fit this purpose'', and Fang becomes increasingly emo as the series goes on, even ''leaving the party'' at one point. This gets worse; [[TenMinuteRetirement he comes back in the very next book, making his disappearance even less effective.]] This isn't even touching Max, who was mostly perfectly fine in the earlier books, and complaining only occasionally got excessive. [[FlanderIzation [[{{Flanderization}} Fast foward to the most recent books and all she does is whine about Fang and Dylan.]]
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Max 2, aka Maya.
** And Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. Some of it is simply because gets in the way of Fang and Max being together, but as as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.
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** According to most fans, the fifth book (apart from the title) is better than the fourth, but not as good as the first three. It could be the fact that [[spoiler: Fang and Max [[RomanticPlotTumor get together]]. God knows how long it'll last.]] In the 6th book, [[spoiler:it gets put on hold]], and in the 7th book, [[spoiler:[[DownerEnding it seems to be]] [[ShipSinking permanent.]]]] Of course, there's always the last book, though.

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** According to most fans, the fifth book (apart from the title) is better than the fourth, but not as good as the first three. It could be the fact that [[spoiler: Fang and Max [[RomanticPlotTumor get together]]. God knows how long it'll last.]] In the 6th book, [[spoiler:it gets put on hold]], and in the 7th book, [[spoiler:[[DownerEnding it seems to be]] [[ShipSinking permanent.]]]] Of course, there's always the last book, though. though.
* {{Flanderization}}: Max and Fang get hit by this, hard. The most recent books have them becoming angstier and angstier over romance (usually over each other), wheras previously it took a back seat to whatever the other current plot thread was.



** The series also is putting arguably too much focus on romance and, well, {{Wangst}} in a series once about Sci-Fi and action. The character [[TheScrappy Dylan]] serves ''only to fit this purpose'', and Fang becomes increasingly emo as the series goes on, even ''leaving the party'' at one point. This gets worse; [[TenMinuteRetirement he comes back in the very next book, making his disappearance even less effective.]] This isn't even touching Max, who was mostly perfectly fine in the earlier books, and complaining only occasionally got excessive. [[FlanderIzation Fast foward to the most recent books and all she does is whine about Fang and Dylan.]]



* {{Wangst}}: Max has genuine reasons to be upset, but she seems to make it absolutely clear to the reader that she hates everything. In all fairnesss [[AgeAppropriateAngst she]] ''[[AgeAppropriateAngst is]]'' [[AgeAppropriateAngst a teenager]], and quite a few do go through a "god everything sucks" stage.

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* {{Wangst}}: Max has genuine reasons to be upset, but she seems to make it absolutely clear to the reader that she hates everything. In all fairnesss [[AgeAppropriateAngst she]] ''[[AgeAppropriateAngst is]]'' [[AgeAppropriateAngst a teenager]], and quite a few do go through a "god everything sucks" stage. [[JumpingTheShark Gets pretty bad in the later books.]]
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**** [[AtopTheFourthWall Of course! Don't you know anything about SCIENCE?]]

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* FridgeLogic: How could the person in charge of the Itex institute be over 200 years old (because they have [[YouFailBiologyForever Galapagos tortoise DNA]]) if genetic engineering hadn't been invented yet?
** Wait, I thought she was 107, and suggested to have had it spliced in later in life.
*** Three words: ThoseWackyNazis!
**** [[AtopTheFourthWall Of course! Don't you know anything about SCIENCE?]]
* HoYay: [[TheWoobie Jeb]] and [[MadScientist Roland]]. (And ''how''!)
** Also [[TroubledButCute Fang]] and [[BrokenBird Iggy]].
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** Adding to the former, the kids starting to develop ''even more'' superpowers and being portrayed without many major flaws is shoving them even further past the border of Mary Sue-land.
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* {{Jerkass}}: Fang was veering dangerously close to this territory earlier on in the series. He flirted blatantly with several girls other than Max over the course of the series, but when ''she'' dated someone else, of course he became [[GreenEyedEpiphany ridiculously jealous]]. Not to mention the fact that when she finally complained to him about it for real, he acted as though nothing had happened and basically disregarded what she said.
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* DontShootTheMessage: The fourth book

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* CreatorsPet: Angel, though widely disliked amongst the fandom, constantly gets a bunch of powers, and is now apparently going to get her own book, ''Angel: A Maximum Ride Novel''.



* TheWesley: Angel, though widely disliked amongst the fandom, constantly gets a bunch of powers, and is now apparently going to get her own book, ''Angel: A Maximum Ride Novel''.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys. At least until ANGEL.

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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys. At least until Until Kate comes in ANGEL.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys.

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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys. At least until ANGEL.
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* UnfortunateImplications: [[YellowPeril For some reason]] the Chinese characters always seem to be bad guys.
** Kate of Fang's new flock in the most recent book is actually pretty nice. And she has Superman-grade strength.
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* JumpedTheShark: From the fourth book onwards had the series moving from stopping the school and Itex to being centered around global warming. This has costs the books a lot of fans.

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** Angel is pretty Sue-ish, too.
*** Angel is ''way'' in that field. She has the most extra powers of all of the flock (and will just get them [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands for no apparent reason]]), she is described as cute and blond and angelic and sweet. Everyone who sees her loves her (except for the evil scientists). Of course, there are the hints that [[spoiler:she wants to take Max's place as Flock leader]] and that she apparently sees no problem in mind-controlling people.

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** Angel is pretty Sue-ish, too.
*** Angel is ''way'' in that field.
ridiculously Sue-ish. She has the most extra powers of all of the flock (and will just get them [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands for no apparent reason]]), she is described as cute and blond and angelic and sweet. Everyone who sees her loves her (except for the evil scientists). Of course, there are the hints that [[spoiler:she wants to take Max's place as Flock leader]] and that she apparently sees no problem in mind-controlling people.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Iggy and Gazzy leading the attack with hawks in the first book. This troper cheered.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Iggy and Gazzy leading the attack with hawks in the first book. This troper cheered.



* {{Discontinuity}}: Some fans choose to disregard the 4th book altogether. The 5th book could well end up with this status too.
** According to most fans, the fifth book (apart from the title) is better than the fourth, but not as good as the first three. It could be the fact that [[spoiler: Fang and Max [[RomanticPlotTumor get together]]. God knows how long it'll last.]]
** And, of course, [[spoiler: in the sixth book it gets put on hold.]]
*** And in the 7th book, [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding it seems to be]] [[ShipSinking permanent.]]]] Of course, there's always the last book, though.



* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans choose to disregard the 4th book altogether. The 5th book could well end up with this status too.
** According to most fans, the fifth book (apart from the title) is better than the fourth, but not as good as the first three. It could be the fact that [[spoiler: Fang and Max [[RomanticPlotTumor get together]]. God knows how long it'll last.]] In the 6th book, [[spoiler:it gets put on hold]], and in the 7th book, [[spoiler:[[DownerEnding it seems to be]] [[ShipSinking permanent.]]]] Of course, there's always the last book, though.



** And Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. All because he gets in the way of Fang and Max being together.
*** While his status as Fax's biggest hypotenuse certainly adds to the hatred, as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.
* {{Wangst}}: Max has genuine reasons to be upset, but she seems to make it absolutely clear to the reader that she hates everything.
** Well, [[AgeAppropriateAngst she ''is'' a teenager]] - which is not to imply that all (or even most) teenagers are like this, but quite a few do go through a "god everything sucks" stage. (I think that was as politically correct as can be...)

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** And Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. All Some of it is simply because he gets in the way of Fang and Max being together.
*** While his status
together, but as Fax's biggest hypotenuse certainly adds to the hatred, as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.
* {{Wangst}}: Max has genuine reasons to be upset, but she seems to make it absolutely clear to the reader that she hates everything.
** Well,
everything. In all fairnesss [[AgeAppropriateAngst she ''is'' she]] ''[[AgeAppropriateAngst is]]'' [[AgeAppropriateAngst a teenager]] - which is not to imply that all (or even most) teenagers are like this, but teenager]], and quite a few do go through a "god everything sucks" stage. (I think that was as politically correct as can be...)stage.



* TheWoobie: YMMV, but all the shit Ari's been through really tugs on this troper's heartstrings. He's ''seven years old'', for Chrissake's.

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* TheWoobie: YMMV, but For some, all the shit Ari's been through can really tugs on this troper's one's heartstrings. He's ''seven years old'', for Chrissake's.
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* ClicheStorm From the evil twin and the stereotyped characters to the boy drama, I think it's fair to apply this term to the YA series.
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*** While his status as Fax's biggest hypotenuse certainly adds to the hatred, as a character he's [[FlatCharacter terribly bland]], unnervingly [[SingleTargetSexuality Max-sexual]], and a [[ShallowLoveInterest shallow love interest]] complete with a [[{{Narm}} narmy]] serenade scene in ANGEL. No, really.
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** And Dylan. That guy has fanfictions about ways for him to ''die''. All because he gets in the way of Fang and Max being together.
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* {{The Scrappy}}: Max 2, aka Maya.
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*** And in the 7th book, [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding it seems to be]] [[ShipSinking permanent.]]]] Of course, there's always the last book, though.

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