History YMMV / Mar

* [[AmericansHateTingle Americans Hate Snow]]: While Snow is shown in the MAR manga to be listed as the top 10 most popular character in the franchise based on Japan, if you were to go on any forum, the reaction is the exact opposite of people stating their complaints of her being a {{Damsel Scrappy}} or her getting in the way of someone else for Ginta.

* ArcFatigue: Pretty much everything after the sixth round. The show starts adding more and more filler and padding which prolongs both the monotonous TournamentArc as well as Snow's rescue. Compared to the manga where she was only gone a volume and a half, she's missing 26 episodes here. It's mildly annoying watching it now, but imagine watching the show as it was airing. That's half of year of mostly filler. And then there's the Ghost Chess arc, which is loved by YaoiFangirls and people who wanted a better resolution to Phantom's character arc (that was anti-climatic in the manga) but disliked by others. The last 7 episodes are generally considered to end the series on a high note, though.
* {{Base Breaker}}: Snow is a very divisive character to say the least. There are many who see her as a scrappy for getting in the way of Ginta and whoever they ship him with and for getting captured on screen at least twice (four times in the anime), but she does have her fans.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The English anime's OP.

* {{Die for Our Ship}}: Snow is the main victim of this whenever the pairing concerns Ginta with someone else.
* {{Draco in Leather Pants}}: Phantom and for [[{{Bishounen}} very]] [[YaoiGuys good]] [[WoobieDestroyerofWorlds reasons.]]
* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Alviss is by far the most popular character in the series given that almost all artwork and fanart is mainly about him. It's even lampshaded in the series by Edward and Belle.
* FanonDiscontinuity - Most MAR fans, do not acknowledge MAR Omega as part of the canon-or a sequel. Mostly because, it was done by a completely differently mangaka, Ginta isn't even the main character, and the original main team characters are now basically support cast-or background characters.

* {{Fan Preferred Couple}}: Nanashi/Dorothy is largely supported in the fandom due to their {{Belligerent Sexual Tension}} that they have.

** On the {{Ho Yay}}/{{Foe Yay}} side, you have Ginta/Alviss, Phantom/Alviss and Rolan/Alviss with the first two being nearly tied.
* {{Ho Yay}}: [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/MAR Has its own page.]]

* MoralEventHorizon - Halloween killing the bystanders, Peta killing the Luberian Thief Guild, [[spoiler: Chimera turning Gido into a TorturedMonster]], and [[spoiler: Galian betraying the Thief Guild to Peta]].

* NightmareFuel - You've gotta admit, there are some scary things in this series. For example, the character Chimera, whom, upon having [[spoiler:her]] mask broken off, [[spoiler:she]] is shown to have [[spoiler:a mass of multiple eyes on the right side of her face]]. Also, Pinocchion, just Pinocchion.
* NoYay - Kolekkio/Jack scene during episode 33. Also a CrowningMomentOfFunny.
* {{The Scrappy}}: People who watch the series tend to dislike Snow greatly whether it’s for [[DieforOurShip shipping reasons]] or because [[DistressedDamsel she often needs to be rescued.]]
** Also Edward and Belle are annoying, clingy mascots. Edward is only there to be a handicap for Alan before the curse was undone and once that happened, Edward had no character of his own. Belle in comparison reminds too many people of a certain fairy from a [[LegendofZeldaOcarinaofTime certain video game]] due to her annoying voice.
* TheUntwist: Quite a few "plot twists" in this series are fairly obvious if your GenreSavvy, mainly because the foreshadowing is a little too thick. Some of these include, [[spoiler: Ginta's dad being Danna, obvious because his father had gone missing six years ago... exactly when the last War Game happened. Koyuki and Snow being connected in some way, granted the exact nature of the connection differs between the manga and anime but nobody is pretending that the fact they were connected was in any way some kind of surprise. The Queen being Diana, and Diana being Dorothy's sister... I mean just look at her! They looked too similar for the revelation of them being related to be a surprise. The only plot twists that aren't untwists are ones that border on ShockingSwerve, such as Babbo being the spirit of the previous Caldean Elder... because nothing hinted at that earlier.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot - The series started out as a perfectly respectable adventure series, and was setting up for an epic journey across the country. Then the next episode cuts to them already at their destination and the majority of the series is spent on a fighting tournament. This wouldn't be so bad if the battles weren't such a step down from those of FlameOfRecca. Fortunately, the anime fixes some of these things by adding filler arcs that don't have to do with the tournament and the aftermath which included the Ghost Chest arc and the final arc which had a much more satisfying ending than the original manga.
** While the ending being superior is a majority opinion to be sure, there are those who'd argue the filler detracted from the show more than it added. It could just be that it was rather misplaced as well. [[RescueArc RescueArcs]] and [[TournamentArc Tournament Arcs]] are the two things you DON'T want to prolong.
** Also Babbo being Phantom's former weapon, we could have gotten scenes where [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Babbo switches back and forth betweeen his current gentleman self and the psychotic past alter ego.]]

* TooCoolToLive : Played with both Alan and [[spoiler: Danna]], the former is much stronger than the main cast, but a flaw in order to not make him too cool and [[spoiler: the latter was possessed by the BigBad, only to be revived at the end of the series]], Chimera plays this straight though, only losing because Dorothy is [[ManipulativeBitch too witty about disrupting her concentration]]

** Basically, disregarding OCs and self-inserts, the most popular ships seem to be GintaXAlviss, GintaXPhantom, AlvissXPhantom, or some combination thereof, though some might argue the Yaoi fans are an extremely vocal minority. As far as heterosexual pairings go, Ginta is almost exclusively shipped with Snow, and Dorothy is near-universally paired with Nanashi. Jack is either left alone or paired with Pano, or rare cases with Snow. Alviss is... Unsurprisingly almost never paired heterosexually, but in the rare instance he is, it's usually Belle.

* {{Base Breaker}}: Snow is a very divisive character to say the least. There are many who see her as a scrappy for getting in the way of Ginta and whoever they ship him with and for getting captured on screen at least twice (four times in the anime), but she does have her fans. Notably, she always ranked fairly high in the manga's character polls, always in the Top 10, frequently in the Top 5.

** This was the unfortunate side effect of attracting so many Yaoi fangirls. It should be noted that finding a non-yaoi fan that hates Snow is quite difficult.
** Also Edward and Belle are annoying, clingy mascots.

* ArcFatigue: Pretty much everything after the sixth round. The show starts adding more and more filler and padding which prolongs both the monotonous TournamentArc as well as Snow's rescue. Compared to the manga where she was only gone a volume and a half, she's missing 26 episodes here. It's mildly annoying watching it now, but imagine watching the show as it was airing. That's half of year of mostly filler. And then there's the Ghost Chess arc, which is loved by YaoiFangirls for obvious reasons but disliked by many others. The last 7 episodes are generally considered to end the series on a high note, though.

* BrokenBase: Snow is a very divisive character to say the least. There are many who see her as a scrappy but she does have her fans. Notably, she always ranked fairly high in the manga's character polls, always in the Top 10, frequently in the Top 5.

* BrokenBase: Snow is a very divisive character to say the least. There are many who see her as a scrappy but she does have her fans. Notably, she always ranked fairly high in the manga's character polls, always in the Top 10, frequently in the Top 5. Her hatedom may even border on VocalMinority considering how active the Yaoi fans are compared to everyone else.

* {{The Scrappy}}: People who watch the series tend to dislike Snow greatly whether it’s for [[DieforOurShip shipping reasons]] or because [[BlatantLies she often needs to be rescued.]]

* HoYay - You'd guess the anime was made by YaoiFangirls
** Not really, the anime just up the {{Fanservice}} compared to the manga which was known for it's {{Gorn}} instead.

** ESPECIALLY Yaoi pairings. Poor girl :(

* CreatorsPet: Dorothy. In the anime anyway. There's a lot of scenes added in the anime about her that weren't in the manga, she's overpowered even worse than the rest of the team to the point of pretty much never losing, even during filler arcs where everyone else tends to lose. She's exploited to hell and back for Fanservice but the real kicker is that her status as Ginta's secondary LoveInterest is played a bit more seriously (even though [[spoiler: Snow/Koyuki ends up winning in the end]]) whereas in the manga it was little more than a running gag. It's clear SOMEONE in charge of the anime may have liked her too much.

* HateDumb: Most arguments against Snow's character dont really hold much water. Most of it can be summed up "bitter yaoi fangirls".

* NeedsMoreLove - Despite being the kind of series made to attract as much of an audience possible, there's barely any active fans in the English fandom. Not helped that review sites claim it to be just another generic shonen manga.
** Viz discontinuing the dub halfway through certainly didn't help.

* VillainDecay: When they were first introduced, the Chess Pieces were not only viewed as very powerful, but very menacing as well, having all kinds of people join them, [[BloodKnight battle seekers]], [[{{Greed}} greedy Arm collectors]] and [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil even rapists]]. But after volume 3, they succumb to TheWorfEffect to show how powerful Team Mar is, and the members are significantly qurker and/or losers who angst too much about their problems.

** Diana could cross it at any number of points depending on the viewer. Keep in mind she [[spoiler: betrayed her sister and her country, manipulated the entire world into TWO full-scale wars, and helped create the Chess Pieces in the first place, all to satisfy her greed. And that's not even taking into account how she treated poor Snow.]]

* TooCoolToLive : Played with both Alan and [[spoiler: Danna]], the former is much stronger than the main cast, but a flaw in order to not make him too cool and [[spoiler: the latter was possessed by the BigBad, only to be revived at the end of the series]], Chimera plays this straight though, only losing because Dorothy is [[ManipulativeBitch too witty about disrupting her concentration]]

** To be fair though he did lose against Phantom the first time

** While the ending being superior is a majority opinion to be sure, there are those who'd argue the filler detracted from the show more than it added. It could just be that it was rather misplaced as well. RescueArcs and TournamentArcs are the two things you DON'T want to prolong.

* ArcFatigue: Pretty much everything after the sixth round. The show starts adding more and more filler and padding which prolongs both the monotonous TouramentArc as well as Snow's rescue. Compared to the manga where she was only gone a volume and a half, she's missing 26 episodes here. It's mildly annoying watching it now, but imagine watching the show as it was airing. That's half of year of mostly filler. And then there's the Ghost Chess arc, which is loved by YaoiFangirls for obvious reasons but disliked by many others. The last 7 episodes are generally considered to end the series on a high note, though.

** {{Take that Scrappy}}: Some fans were no doubt cheering when [[spoiler: Alviss literally left Snow to die by the King’s hands in the anime and while she dies in Ginta’s arms, fans were probably cheering or mourning for Nanashi instead of crying over her temporary death.]]

*** [[spoiler: Of course he was possessed by the Orb, the main villain of the series.]]

* CompleteMonster: While Phantom is a BaseBreaker, most Chess Pieces including Halloween, Girom, Rapunzel, and [[spoiler: King]] are these.
** Rapunzel and Girom do have a sole positive quality, they obviously care about eachother at the very least, Girom seemed pretty distressed about his sister's death.