History YMMV / ManaKhemia2FallOfAlchemy

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: In Japan, the two ''Mana Khemia'' games received a fairly lukewarm reception from the established fanbase, and ''Mana Khemia 2'' received a lot of flak from reviewers. In the West, on the other hand... well, just take a gander at how long the ''Mana Khemia'' page is, and take a guess at which game in the series was among the first to get a dedicated character page on TVT (and reportedly sold ''better'' in the West than it did in Japan). ''MK 2'' also got a ''much'' warmer reception from the Western press than it did in Japan, scoring slightly ''higher'' on average than ''MK 1'' did. (This may have something to do with those {{Game Breaking Bug}}s getting fixed, though.)
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/VicMignogna (who voiced [[TheNapoleon Edward Elric]] from ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'') voices Pepperoncino, who ''hates'' being called big...

* FoeYay: Raze and Reicher appear this way to Lily, during one of her many perverted fantasies.

* ToughActToFollow: While ''Mana Khemia 2'' is a good game in its own right, some compared it to [[VideoGame/ManaKhemiaAlchemistsOfAlRevis the first one]] and thought that the story was less epic, despite having two protagonists. It was also criticized for the {{Flanderization}} of some returning characters, like Tony and Zeppel.

* CrazyAwesome: Flay's the most unnaturally gifted teacher this side of Superman.

* ToughActToFollow: While ''Mana Khemia 2'' is a good game in its own right, some compared it to [[VideoGame/ManaKhemiaAlchemistsOfAlRevis the first one]] and trough that the story was less epic, despite having two protagonists. It was also criticized for the {{Flanderization}} of some returning characters, like Tony and Zeppel.

** [[spoiler:Fairly safe to say he's either this or a Mana in serious denial, due to the fact that the fairy hat he wears is hiding a miniature tree growing on his head.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is most likely a human/mana hybrid because Reicher wasn't able to banish him with his sword.]]

* ThatOneSidequest: The Alchemy requests of the Extra Chapter are tough for requiring very Specific Ether Level values. For example, creating a Gold with the ''Expensive'' ether effect requires a Ether Level between 84-85, a riduculous short range. Since you don't want to waste ingredients, expect to do lots of SaveScumming.

* ToughActToFollow: While ''Mana Khemia 2'' is a good game in its own right, some compared it to [[VideoGame/ManaKhemiaAlchemistsOfAlRevis the first one]] and trough that the story was less epic, despite having two protagonists. It was also criticized for the {{Flanderization}} of certain characters, like Flay and Zeppel.

* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: While opinions differ on the Gathering Minigames, [=MK2=]'s gameplay-wise improves over his predecessor and is a more balanced game. On the other hand, most of the plot resolves around comedy routines and Flay shenanigans, and not even the Big Bad is taken seriously. Also, unlike the first one, this game lacks an interesting plot-twist to make up for it.

* {{Moe}}: Puniyo, a 5-years old blue-haired girl who rides a giant Puni and [[PokemonSpeak speak like a Pokémon]].
* ThatOneAttack: Tetri has an skill that can disable the Support command.
* ThatOneBoss: The Boss of Chapter 8 in Raze's route, which comes with several {{Mooks}}. [[spoiler:Tetri]] in Ulrika's route and her PaletteSwap in the extra chapter may qualify, since they can prevent your Vanguard from switching with Support.

** Yun and Raze as well, especially during the former's character quests in later chapters.

* FoeYay: Raze and Reicher]] appear this way to Lily, during one of her many perverted fantasies.

** [[spoiler: Fairly safe to say he's either this or a Mana in serious denial, due to the fact that the fairy hat he wears is hiding a miniature tree growing on his head.]]
*** [[spoiler: He is most likely a human/mana hybrid because Reicher wasn't able to banish him with his sword.]]

** [[FoeYay Raze and Reicher]] appear this way to Lily, during one of her many perverted fantasies.

%%* {{Narm}}: Before Raze receives his RingOfPower, his weapon of choice is, well...

* ToughActToFollow: While ''Mana Khemia 2'' is a good game in its own right, some compared it to [[VideoGame/ManaKhemiaAlchemistsOfAlRevis the first one]] and trough that the story was less epic, despite having two protagonists; and it was also criticized for the {{Flanderization}} of certain characters, like Zeppel.

** Pepperoni and Goto are uncomfortably chummy with one another for most of the game, despite Goto's repeated assurances that he "doesn't swing that way." ** Goto intentionally invokes this during one character quest, wrestling with Pepperoni and then chasing Enna around the library. Tons of innuendo are included. [[spoiler:It's a ploy to deter Marta from seriously pursuing Goto. It doesn't work.]]

* EpilepticTrees: apart from being [[spoiler:defeated by Flay]], what set the Light Mana against the concept of humans and Mana living together is [[spoiler:a Mana dying from childbirth in a relationship with a human.]] Here is where the WildMassGuessing comes in: [[spoiler:''Pepperoni'' is the child of the human-Mana union.]]

* HoYay: Pepperoni and Goto are uncomfortably chummy with one another for most of the game, despite Goto's repeated assurances that he "doesn't swing that way." [[FoeYay Raze and Reicher]] appear this way to Lily, during one of her many perverted fantasies.

** Goto intentionally invokes this during one character quest, wrestling with Pepperoni and then chasing Enna around the library. Tons of innuendo are included. [[spoiler:It's a ploy to deter Marta from seriously pursuing Goto. It doesn't work.]]

* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of [=CQs=] per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment and are geared more towards comedy, which reduces the VideoGameCaringPotential. The story is also considered less epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics are a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button, there are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering. You also get less characters in one storyline, which makes auto gathering and synthesis less effective.
* ThatOneBoss: The Boss of Chapter 8 in Raze's route, which comes with several {{Mooks}}. [[spoiler:Tetri]] in Ulrika's route and her PaletteSwap in the extra chapter may qualify, since they can prevent your Vanguard from switching with Support.

* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of [=CQs=] per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment and are geared more towards comedy, which reduces the VideoGameCaringPotential. The story is also considered less epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button, there are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering. You also get less characters in one storyline, which makes auto gathering and synthesis less effective.

* {{Narm}}: Before Raze receives his RingOfPower, his weapon of choice is, well...
* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of CQs per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment and are geared more towards comedy, which reduces the VideoGameCaringPotential. The story is also considered less...epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button, there are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering. You also get less characters in one storyline, which makes auto gathering and synthesis less effective.

* {{Narm}}: before Raze receives his RingOfPower, his weapon of choice is, well...

* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of CQs per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment and are geared more towards comedy, which reduces the VideoGameCaringPotential. The story is also considered less...epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button, there are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering. You also get less characters in one storyline, which makes auto gathering and synthesis less effective.

* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of CQs per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment and are geared more towards comedy. The story is also considered less...epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button, there are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering.

* {{Sequelitis}}: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of CQs per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment. The story is also considered less...epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button. There are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering.

Sequelitis: While a good game in its own right, some [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks compared it to its predecessor and found it lacking]]. Among the most often heard complaints are the lack of depth in the character quests. While the number of CQs per character remain the same, the events generally do little in terms of CharacterDevelopment. The story is also considered less...epic compared to the first game. The game mechanics is a mixed bag. While some praised the increased ease with which the players can synthesize items given everything is made in one location, gathering items becomes more tedious, since you don't just slash or push a button. There are minigames for each type of gathering action except fruit and water gathering.