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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many thought Alex playing the ocarina instead of the harp in the remake was [[FollowTheLeader trying to cash in on]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. In actuality, Silver Star Story came out in Japan two years before Ocarina of Time, [[ScheduleSlip it just took a very long time to make it to the states]]. And for those who are unaware of the Sega CD games at all, the song "Thoughts Far Away" actually first appeared in the Sega CD version of ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many thought Alex playing the ocarina instead of the harp in the remake was [[FollowTheLeader trying to cash in on]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. In actuality, Silver Star Story came out in Japan two years before Ocarina of Time, [[ScheduleSlip it just took a very long time to make it to the states]]. The Ocarina was more likely inspired by the Ocarina of Hope in ''VideoGame/EarthboundBeginnings'' which was also popular in Japan (and indeed, likely inspired Ocarina of Time too). And for those who are unaware of the Sega CD games at all, the song "Thoughts Far Away" actually first appeared in the Sega CD version of ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''.
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** After Alex becomes a dragonmaster, talk to Alex's parents. They'll tell you all about when Alex first met Luna and Nall when they were babies. They even remark that Alex and Luna were like twins in that they had the exact same smile. [[CuteKitten And just try to imagine a baby Nall]].
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Due to his high pitched voice, many people assume Nall is a girl.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: The scene where Alex gets Luna to come along when sailing to Meribia in the remake, especially if you know that Luna stays behind in the original Sega CD version.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The scene where Alex gets Luna to come along when sailing to Meribia in the remake, especially if you know that Luna stays behind in the original Sega CD version.
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* HeartWarmingMoments: The scene where Alex gets Luna to come along when sailing to Meribia in the remake, especially if you know that Luna stays behind in the original Sega CD version.

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* HeartWarmingMoments: HeartwarmingMoments: The scene where Alex gets Luna to come along when sailing to Meribia in the remake, especially if you know that Luna stays behind in the original Sega CD version.
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* HeartWarmingMoments: The scene where Alex gets Luna to come along when sailing to Meribia in the remake, especially if you know that Luna stays behind in the original Sega CD version.
--> '' Luna! All the exciting adventures in the world mean nothing if you're not with us. This isn't just my adventure, Luna, It's ours!''
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* PortingDisaster: The [[UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance GBA]] version, ''Lunar Legend'', is absurdly bug-ridden. One wonders [[ObviousBeta if there was any playtesting done at all]].
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* BrokenBase: Small one going on between the [[{{Woolseyism}} Woolseyized]] versions of the songs from ''Silver Star Story Complete'' and the more faithful retranslated versions from ''Silver Star Harmony''. The comment section for just about every video of the songs posted on youtube tends to degenerate into a debate between purists and fans of woolseyism at some point.

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* BrokenBase: Small one going on between the [[{{Woolseyism}} Woolseyized]] versions of the songs from ''Silver Star Story Complete'' and the more faithful retranslated versions from ''Silver Star Harmony''. The comment section for just about every video of the songs posted on youtube tends to degenerate into a debate between purists and fans of woolseyism Woolseyism at some point.
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** Whichever version you prefer, it's hard to deny the game's intro song "Wings" is a fantastic song. Setting the mode for the game and story.

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** Whichever version you prefer, it's hard to deny the game's intro song "Wings" is a fantastic song. Setting the mode mood for the game and story.
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** Which ever version you prefer, it's hard to deny the game's intro song "Wings" is a fantastic song. Setting the mode for the game and story.

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** Which ever Whichever version you prefer, it's hard to deny the game's intro song "Wings" is a fantastic song. Setting the mode for the game and story.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret. This hits a whole new level with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.



* TheUntwist: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret. This hits a whole new level with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.

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** Alex in the original ''Lunar: The Silver Star''. By the end of the game, he will have the highest HP, MP, physical damage, magic damage, defense, and is a decent healer.
** White Dragon Protect in the remakes is pretty costly to cast, but defends each party member from one attack. In ''Harmony'', Mia's LimitBreak is even worse as it protects each member from multiple attacks, not just one.

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** Alex was a MasterOfAll in the original ''Lunar: The Silver Star''. By the end of the game, he will have the highest HP, MP, physical damage, magic damage, defense, and is a decent healer.
** White Dragon Protect in the remakes is pretty costly to cast, but defends each party member from one attack. In ''Harmony'', ''Silver Star Harmony'', Mia's LimitBreak is even worse as it protects each member from multiple attacks, not just one.



** ''Lunar Legend'' doesn't bother to remember what your HP and MP are when you quit the game. So you can just save and reset for free full healing anywhere.



* GameplayDerailment: ''Lunar Legend'' doesn't bother to remember what your HP and MP are when you quit the game. So you can just save and reset for free full healing anywhere.



* TheUntwist[=/=]EverybodyKnewAlready: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret.
** This hits a whole new level with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.

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* TheUntwist[=/=]EverybodyKnewAlready: TheUntwist: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret.
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Darth Vader Clone and Nintendo Hard are not YMMV. Moved.


* DarthVaderClone: [[spoiler:Magic Emperor Ghaleon]] looks an awful lot like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV Golbez]], just more purple and with looser-fitting clothes. Also, their names both begin with a G.
** In the remakes, he ACTS Golbez-like. [[spoiler:Sending one of his minions to impersonate a famous, beloved leader who turns into a complete jerk]]? Check. [[spoiler:Kidnapping the love interest right after revealing himself]]? Check! And [[spoiler:when his pet Black Dragon weakens the party so they can be easily finished off]]? Triple check! All he needs is a giant freaking tower that extends to the heavens! ''Oh wait...''



* GameBreaker: Alex in the original ''Lunar: The Silver Star''. By the end of the game, he will have the highest HP, MP, physical damage, magic damage, defense, and is a decent healer.

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Alex in the original ''Lunar: The Silver Star''. By the end of the game, he will have the highest HP, MP, physical damage, magic damage, defense, and is a decent healer.




* NintendoHard: The [=PS1=] version, in comparison to the PSP. The [=PS1=] hasn't the same item storage style, meaning less space. They also haven't limit breaks, meaning bosses are much harder (since you can't rely on Luna's Limit for most of the game to restore mp, or any of the attack Limits in battle). Also, experience seems to be slightly slower. For a good comparison, in the first forest in Harmony, it is possible to win at least the first battle, and possibly the second (without asking for help). It's not as much to do so without the help of limit breaks, though.
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* MagnificentBastard: BigBad Magic Emperor Ghaleon was once one of the four great heroes who becomes disillusioned with the world after the supposed death of his best friend Dyne. Ghaleon decides the world cannot function without gods, feeling betrayed by the goddess Altena's decision to be reborn as a mortal and seeks to either supplant her or force her to resume her role. Ghaleon manipulates the heroes into assisting him in his goals, capturing four great dragons to harness their energy to pull his plans off. Ghaleon remains one step ahead of everyone, even capturing Altena's human form Luna and [[NearVillainVictory almost succeeds in his ultimate goal]]. In ''Lunar 2: Eternal Blue'', Ghaleon is revived, seemingly as a minion of the God of Destruction Zophar, but having grown repentant for his actions, Ghaleon instead works against Zophar and assists the heroes, becoming a StealthMentor to the young warrior Hiro before peacefully passing into the afterlife once he tests Hiro's strength enough.

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* MagnificentBastard: BigBad [[BigBad Magic Emperor Ghaleon Ghaleon]] was once one of the four great heroes who becomes disillusioned with the world after the supposed death of his best friend Dyne. Ghaleon decides the world cannot function without gods, feeling betrayed by the goddess Altena's decision to be reborn as a mortal and seeks to either supplant her or force her to resume her role. Ghaleon manipulates the heroes into assisting him in his goals, capturing four great dragons to harness their energy to pull his plans off. Ghaleon remains one step ahead of everyone, even capturing Altena's human form Luna and [[NearVillainVictory almost succeeds in his ultimate goal]]. In ''Lunar 2: Eternal Blue'', Ghaleon is revived, seemingly as a minion of the God of Destruction Zophar, but having grown repentant for his actions, Ghaleon instead works against Zophar and assists the heroes, becoming a StealthMentor to the young warrior Hiro before peacefully passing into the afterlife once he tests Hiro's strength enough.
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** The music from Alex’s ocarina. [[spoiler: Becomes valuable in the climax of the PS1 version of the game as you must play it for Luna.]]

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** The music from Alex’s ocarina. [[spoiler: Becomes valuable in the climax of the PS1 [=PS1=] version of the game as you must play it for Luna.]]
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* DarthVaderClone: [[spoiler:Magic Emperor Ghaleon]] looks an awful lot like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV Golbez]], just more purple and with looser-fitting clothes. Also, their names begin with a [[spoiler:G]].

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* DarthVaderClone: [[spoiler:Magic Emperor Ghaleon]] looks an awful lot like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV Golbez]], just more purple and with looser-fitting clothes. Also, their names both begin with a [[spoiler:G]].G.



** Anytime Luna sings. Even her simple “lalalala” has a soothing feel to it.

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** Anytime Any time Luna sings. Even her simple “lalalala” has a soothing feel to it.



** This hits a whole new levei with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.

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** This hits a whole new levei level with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.
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** In ''Complete'' and ''Harmony'', Nash's ultimate weapon, the Starlight Bow, can inflict instant death. You can also get an accessory called Ghaleon's/Fiend's Tear that makes the user's normal attacks hit all enemies (at the cost of reducing their Attack# to 1). Slap both of these on Nash (who almost always acts first in battles and won't get more than one Attack# except at extremely high levels anyway) and he can open every round of combat against normal encounters by wiping out up to half the enemy team with absolutely no costs or drawbacks. The only downside is that you can really only do this in the final dungeon, since that's where the Starlight Bow is obtained.
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** This hits a whole new levei with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena loosely implies her HeroicSacrifice, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.

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** This hits a whole new levei with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena loosely implies strongly hints towards a HeroicSacrifice that ultimately causes her HeroicSacrifice, reincarnation, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.
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** This hits a whole new levei with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlights the Four Heroes and Althena [[spoiler: where Althena loosely implies her HeroicSacrifice, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.

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** This hits a whole new levei with the PSP version's entirely new prologue scene that highlights highlighted the Four Heroes and Althena stopping the previous world-threatening entity [[spoiler: where Althena loosely implies her HeroicSacrifice, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these reveals far, far, ''far'' later.
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** Not to mention the PSP has the entire opening scene in the start that highlights the Four Heroes and Althena [[spoiler: where Althena sings ''the exact same song'' Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these twists far, far, ''far'' later.

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** Not to mention This hits a whole new levei with the PSP has the entire opening version's entirely new prologue scene in the start that highlights the Four Heroes and Althena [[spoiler: where Althena loosely implies her HeroicSacrifice, sings ''the exact same song'' that Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot in finishing off Eiphel just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these twists reveals far, far, ''far'' later.
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* TheUntwist[=/=]EverybodyKnewAlready: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret. Doubly so in the PSP version, where [[spoiler:Althena and Luna sing ''exactly the same song'']].
** Not to mention the PSP has the entire opening scene in the start, while the [=PS1=] version skips to Alex.

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* TheUntwist[=/=]EverybodyKnewAlready: The game doesn't even ''try'' to make Luna's real origins a secret. Doubly so in the PSP version, where [[spoiler:Althena and Luna sing ''exactly the same song'']].
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** Not to mention the PSP has the entire opening scene in the start, while start that highlights the [=PS1=] Four Heroes and Althena [[spoiler: where Althena sings ''the exact same song'' Luna does ten minutes later, and Ghaleon is even given a damn TraitorShot just to foreshadow his BigBad role]]; meanwhile every other version of the game just skips to Alex.Alex at Dyne's memorial and leave the player to discover these twists far, far, ''far'' later.
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* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound:
** Anytime Luna sings. Even her simple “lalalala” has a soothing feel to it.
** The music from Alex’s ocarina. [[spoiler: Becomes valuable in the climax of the PS1 version of the game as you must play it for Luna.]]
** The Level-Up sounds each time a character levels up. The Victory Music also counts.
** The music that plays each time Alex acquires pieces of the Dragon Master armor.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The music composed by Noriyuki Iwadare
** Which ever version you prefer, it's hard to deny the game's intro song "Wings" is a fantastic song. Setting the mode for the game and story.
** The original Sega CD intro song "Fighting through the Darkness" is also great.
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** In a truly strange case of 'They Changed It Back Halfway, Now It Sucks'; In the GBA version, Ghaleon is given back his more evil vibe and attitude he had in the original Sega CD version... but keeps and even adds to his WellIntentionedExtremist scenes from PS1... resulting in in some finding his character being a mashed-up mess.

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** In a truly strange case of 'They Changed It Back Halfway, Now It Sucks'; In the GBA version, Ghaleon is given back his more evil vibe and attitude he had in the original Sega CD version... but keeps and even adds to his WellIntentionedExtremist scenes from PS1...[=PS1=]... resulting in in some finding his character being a mashed-up mess.
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* MagnificentBastard: Ghaleon.

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* MagnificentBastard: Ghaleon.BigBad Magic Emperor Ghaleon was once one of the four great heroes who becomes disillusioned with the world after the supposed death of his best friend Dyne. Ghaleon decides the world cannot function without gods, feeling betrayed by the goddess Altena's decision to be reborn as a mortal and seeks to either supplant her or force her to resume her role. Ghaleon manipulates the heroes into assisting him in his goals, capturing four great dragons to harness their energy to pull his plans off. Ghaleon remains one step ahead of everyone, even capturing Altena's human form Luna and [[NearVillainVictory almost succeeds in his ultimate goal]]. In ''Lunar 2: Eternal Blue'', Ghaleon is revived, seemingly as a minion of the God of Destruction Zophar, but having grown repentant for his actions, Ghaleon instead works against Zophar and assists the heroes, becoming a StealthMentor to the young warrior Hiro before peacefully passing into the afterlife once he tests Hiro's strength enough.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many thought Alex playing the ocarina instead of the harp in the remake was [[FollowTheLeader trying to cash in on]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. In actuality, Silver Star Story came out in Japan two years before Ocarina of Time, [[ScheduleSlip it just took a very long time to make it to the states]]. And for those who are unaware of the Sega CD games at all, the song "Thoughts Far Away" actually first appeared in the Sega CD version of ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''.



* OlderThanTheyThink: Many thought Alex playing the ocarina instead of the harp in the remake was [[FollowTheLeader trying to cash in on]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. In actuality, Silver Star Story came out in Japan two years before Ocarina of Time, [[ScheduleSlip it just took a very long time to make it to the states]]. And for those who are unaware of the Sega CD games at all, the song "Thoughts Far Away" actually first appeared in the Sega CD version of ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many thought Alex playing the ocarina instead of the harp in the remake was [[FollowTheLeader trying to cash in on]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. In actuality, Silver Star Story came out in Japan two years before Ocarina of Time, [[ScheduleSlip it just took a very long time to make it to the states]]. And for those who are unaware of the Sega CD games at all, the song "Thoughts Far Away" actually first appeared in the Sega CD version of ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''.
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* CultClassic: While the game never garnered the mainstream success of the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' or ''Franchise/DragonQuest'' series, it still sold a respectable number of copies in the United States[[note]]Around 300,000 for the Playstation remake[[/note]] and is, to this day, a favorite among [=JRPG=] enthusiasts.

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* CultClassic: While the game never garnered the mainstream success of the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' or ''Franchise/DragonQuest'' ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' series, it still sold a respectable number of copies in the United States[[note]]Around 300,000 for the Playstation remake[[/note]] and is, to this day, a favorite among [=JRPG=] enthusiasts.
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** In a truly strange case of 'They Changed It Back Halfway, Now It Sucks'; In the GBA version, Ghaleon is given back his more evil vibe and attitude he had in the original Sega CD version... but keeps and even adds to his WellIntentionedExtremist scenes from PS1... resulting in in some finding his character being a mashed-up mess.
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*** Which is likely the reason for his HeelFaceTurn in the intervening time-span. He realizes Althena may have been right about humanity after all.

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*** Which is likely the reason for his HeelFaceTurn in the intervening time-span. He realizes Althena may have been right about humanity after all. Though [[spoiler: It was Althena's absence in the first place that allowed Zophar to corrupt Althena's chosen and allow a pretender (Fake Althena) to assume her identity]], so he might still have some point.

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