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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} about the Holocaust, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless, since Auschwitz is where most Italian Jews were deported (camps in Western Europe were usually used for political prisoners). Benigni himself defended his own choice, saying that the camp in the movie is "'the' concentration camp": an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, or in general find the matter to be an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive use of the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope, that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps. Some downright accuse Benigni of having conveniently done that to pander to Western audiences and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} about the Holocaust, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another contentious contention about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless, since Auschwitz is where most Italian Jews were deported (camps in Western Europe were usually used for political prisoners). Benigni himself defended his own choice, saying that the camp in the movie is "'the' concentration camp": an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, or in general find the matter to be an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive use of the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope, that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps. Some downright accuse Benigni of having conveniently done that to pander to Western audiences and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.



* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory and was enjoyed by plenty of Holocaust survivors (including Benigni's own father); the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, if not anyone could overcome the shell-shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory and was enjoyed by plenty of Holocaust survivors (including Benigni's own father); father), the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, if not anyone could overcome the shell-shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.
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--> '''Creator/MelBrooks''': "Creator/RobertoBenigni's comedy ''Life Is Beautiful'' really annoyed me. A crazy film that even attempted to find comedy in a concentration camp. It showed the barracks in which Jews were kept like cattle, and it [[DudeNotFunny made jokes about it]]. The philosophy of the film is: people can get over anything. No, they can't. They can't get over a concentration camp."

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--> '''Creator/MelBrooks''': "Creator/RobertoBenigni's Creator/RobertoBenigni's comedy ''Life Is Beautiful'' really annoyed me. A crazy film that even attempted to find comedy in a concentration camp. It showed the barracks in which Jews were kept like cattle, and it [[DudeNotFunny made jokes about it]]. The philosophy of the film is: people can get over anything. No, they can't. They can't get over a concentration camp."


* PoisonOakEpilepticTrees: Some critics, with varying degrees of seriousness, say that Giosuè is likely going to grow up to be a Holocaust denier (though his narration as an adult implies that he did later realize the truth of what was going on).

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory and was enjoyed by plenty of Holocaust survivors (including Benigni's own father), the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler:The movie conveniently ends before the boy inevitably finds out that his father is dead.]] It is probably for this reason that voice-overs of the boy as an adult were later added to the movie.
* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory and was enjoyed by plenty of Holocaust survivors (including Benigni's own father), father); the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, if not anyone could overcome the shell shock shell-shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.



* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler:The movie conveniently ends before the boy inevitably finds out that his father is dead.]] It is probably for this reason that voice-overs of the boy as an adult were later added to the movie.



* SpiritualLicensee: Often considered to be the closest thing we'll ever get to actually seeing ''Film/TheDayTheClownCried'', and in some cases a good indicator as to why that movie has never been shown publicly.

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* SpiritualLicensee: SpiritualSuccessor: Often considered to be the closest thing we'll ever get to actually seeing ''Film/TheDayTheClownCried'', and in some cases a good indicator as to why that movie has never been shown publicly.
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* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler:The pile of emaciated bodies Guido and Giosuè come across after the dinner party. It towers over the two like a mountain, and fortunately Giosuè is asleep and is spared from the sight, but it [[DarkestHour clearly shakes Guido to his core]].]]

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless, since Auschwitz is where most Italian Jews were deported (camps in Western Europe were usually used for political prisoners). Benigni himself defended his own choice, saying that the camp in the movie is "'the' concentration camp": an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, or in general find the matter to be an AcceptableBreakFromReality, given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope, yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, about the Holocaust, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless, since Auschwitz is where most Italian Jews were deported (camps in Western Europe were usually used for political prisoners). Benigni himself defended his own choice, saying that the camp in the movie is "'the' concentration camp": an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, or in general find the matter to be an AcceptableBreakFromReality, AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that, by pulling out use of the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope, that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly conveniently done so that to appease the pander to Western audience audiences and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.



* ValuesDissonance: The above controversies notwithstanding, the wacky rom-com antics of the first half involve a great deal of unsolicited touching, stalking and deception of someone who initially does nothing to encourage the advances. Granted, the antics are no worse in these regards than many rom-coms, (and considerably better than some) but they can certainly raise eyebrows twenty years later.

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* ValuesDissonance: The above controversies notwithstanding, the wacky rom-com antics of the first half involve a great deal of unsolicited touching, stalking and deception of someone who initially does nothing to encourage the advances. Granted, the antics are no worse in these regards than many rom-coms, rom-coms (and considerably better than some) some, especially since Dora is clearly shown to appreciate them), but they can certainly raise eyebrows twenty years later.
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* ValuesDissonance: The above controversies notwithstanding, the wacky rom-com antics of the first half involve a great deal of unsolicited touching, stalking and deception of someone who initially does nothing to encourage the advances. Granted, the antics are no worse in these regards than many rom-coms, (and considerably better than some) but they can certainly raise eyebrows twenty years later.
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* CommonKnowledge: As mentioned above, many people are convinced that the movie takes place in Auschwitz. The movie however never specifies that; furtermore, while Auschwitz is in flat land, the movie's camp has mountains in the background. This widespread assumption however isn't entirely unjustifiable: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews was deported to Auschwitz, while most Italians deported to Western European camps were political prisoners.

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* CommonKnowledge: As mentioned above, many people are convinced that the movie takes place in Auschwitz. The movie however never specifies that; furtermore, furthermore, while Auschwitz is in flat land, the movie's camp has mountains in the background. This widespread assumption however isn't entirely unjustifiable: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews was deported to Auschwitz, while most Italians deported to Western European camps were political prisoners.

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews were deported to Auschwitz, while most Italian deportees sent in Western Europe were political prisoners. Benigni himself defended his choice, using the expression "'the' concentration camp", an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, and in general find it an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless: the overwhelming majority of baseless, since Auschwitz is where most Italian Jews were deported to Auschwitz, while most Italian deportees sent (camps in Western Europe were usually used for political prisoners. prisoners). Benigni himself defended his own choice, using saying that the expression camp in the movie is "'the' concentration camp", camp": an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, and or in general find it the matter to be an AcceptableBreakFromReality AcceptableBreakFromReality, given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that that, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope, yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope. camps. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.otherwise.
* CommonKnowledge: As mentioned above, many people are convinced that the movie takes place in Auschwitz. The movie however never specifies that; furtermore, while Auschwitz is in flat land, the movie's camp has mountains in the background. This widespread assumption however isn't entirely unjustifiable: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews was deported to Auschwitz, while most Italians deported to Western European camps were political prisoners.
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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews were deported in Auschwitz, while most Italian deportees sent in Western Europe were political prisoners. Benigni himself defended his choice, using the expression "'the' concentration camp", an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, and in general find it an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.

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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews were deported in to Auschwitz, while most Italian deportees sent in Western Europe were political prisoners. Benigni himself defended his choice, using the expression "'the' concentration camp", an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, and in general find it an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.
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* BrokenBase: Aside from the debate whether the movie is a superb {{Dramedy}} made of a Holocaust story, or is ultimately tasteless and offensive, there's another serious contentious about the good faith of the movie: the liberation of the camp by the ''U.S.'' army. This is caused by the CommonKnowledge that the movie takes place in Auschwitz, which was actually liberated by the ''Soviet'' army. The movie never openly states where the camp is located, though the widespread assumption isn't entirely baseless: the overwhelming majority of Italian Jews were deported in Auschwitz, while most Italian deportees sent in Western Europe were political prisoners. Benigni himself defended his choice, using the expression "'the' concentration camp", an idealised camp representing all those where the Holocaust took place. Some people support Benigni's interpretation, and in general find it an AcceptableBreakFromReality given the theme of the story. Many among critics and audience, however, found it an offensive CriticalResearchFailure that yet again undervalues the Soviet role in liberating the concentration camps, by pulling out the ubiquitous AmericaWonWorldWarII trope. Some downright accuse Benigni of having cowardly done so to appease the Western audience and ensure the movie's reception as an OscarBait that wouldn't have been otherwise.

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.
--> '''Creator/MelBrooks''': Creator/RobertoBenigni's comedy ''Life Is Beautiful'' really annoyed me. A crazy film that even attempted to find comedy in a concentration camp. It showed the barracks in which Jews were kept like cattle, and it [[DudeNotFunny made jokes about it]]. The philosophy of the film is: people can get over anything. No, they can't. They can't get over a concentration camp.
** Of course the fact that Benigni's own father was in a Nazi camp at the end of the war and other Holocaust survivors enjoyed the movie suggest that it's very much a matter of... well, YMMV.

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory and was enjoyed by plenty of Holocaust survivors (including Benigni's own father), the perceived sentimentality of its message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.
--> '''Creator/MelBrooks''': Creator/RobertoBenigni's "Creator/RobertoBenigni's comedy ''Life Is Beautiful'' really annoyed me. A crazy film that even attempted to find comedy in a concentration camp. It showed the barracks in which Jews were kept like cattle, and it [[DudeNotFunny made jokes about it]]. The philosophy of the film is: people can get over anything. No, they can't. They can't get over a concentration camp.
** Of course the fact that Benigni's own father was in a Nazi camp at the end of the war and other Holocaust survivors enjoyed the movie suggest that it's very much a matter of... well, YMMV.
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* PoisonOakEpilepticTrees: Some critics, with varying degrees of seriousness, say that Giosue is likely going to grow up to be a Holocaust denier (though his narration as an adult implies that he did later realize the truth of what was going on).

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* PoisonOakEpilepticTrees: Some critics, with varying degrees of seriousness, say that Giosue Giosuè is likely going to grow up to be a Holocaust denier (though his narration as an adult implies that he did later realize the truth of what was going on).
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** Of course the fact that Benigni's own father was in a Nazi camp at the end of the war and other Holocaust survivors enjoyed the movie suggest that it's very much a matter of... well, YMMV.
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* PoisonOakEpilepticTrees: Some critics, with varying degrees of seriousness, say that Giosue is likely going to grow up to be a Holocaust denier (though his narration as an adult implies that he did later realize the truth of what was going on).
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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, the perceived sentimentality of it's message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, the perceived sentimentality of it's its message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.



* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: The pile of emaciated bodies Guido and Giosuè come across after the dinner party. It towers over the two like a mountain, and fortunately Giosuè is asleep and is spared from the sight, but it [[DarkestHour clearly shakes Guido to his core]].]]

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* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The pile of emaciated bodies Guido and Giosuè come across after the dinner party. It towers over the two like a mountain, and fortunately Giosuè is asleep and is spared from the sight, but it [[DarkestHour clearly shakes Guido to his core]].]]
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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, it's perceived message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.

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* {{Glurge}}: While the film is technically VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, the perceived sentimentality of it's perceived message that someone, anyone could overcome the shell shock of living through the incomparable horrors of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust just because of their hopes and optimism has not been without harsh criticism.

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