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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a JerkassWoobie who constantly receives DisproportionateRetribution; while the other side thinks he's a [[CasanovaWannabe self-absorbed]] {{JerkAss}} who's always [[ShillingTheWesley stealing the spotlight]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a JerkassWoobie who constantly receives DisproportionateRetribution; while the other side thinks he's a [[CasanovaWannabe self-absorbed]] {{JerkAss}} who's always [[ShillingTheWesley [[CreatorsPet stealing the spotlight]].
* CreatorsPet: Miles, as has been noted several times already.
** The "Learning Curves" bonus comic was apparently supposed to show that Miles actually had some bad experiences and was once a loving genuine NiceGuy in a relationship who then lost the girl and became bitter. Unfortunately, since the bad experiences weren't actually that bad, and he pretty much neglected the girl and took her for granted as a friend with benefits right from the start, for most it just served to reinforce the perception that all he had was {{Wangst}} and that he was still dodging responsibility for his own screwups.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
** The "Learning Curves" bonus comic was apparently supposed to show that Miles actually had some bad experiences and was once a loving genuine NiceGuy in a relationship who then lost the girl and became bitter. Unfortunately, since the bad experiences weren't actually that bad, and he pretty much neglected the girl and took her for granted as a friend with benefits right from the start, for most it just served to reinforce the perception that all he had was {{Wangst}} and that he was still dodging responsibility for his own screwups.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
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* MartyStu: Minos is often seen as one by fans. Miles too, though he's closer to TheWesley.
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* MartyStu: Minos is often seen as one by fans. Miles too, though he's closer to TheWesley.a CreatorsPet.
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* ShillingTheWesley: Arguably the whole point of the "Learning Curves" bonus comic. It was apparently supposed to show that Miles actually had some bad experiences and was once a loving genuine NiceGuy in a relationship who then lost the girl and became bitter. Unfortunately, since the bad experiences weren't actually that bad, and he pretty much neglected the girl and took her for granted as a friend with benefits right from the start, for most it just served to reinforce the perception that all he had was {{Wangst}} and that he was still dodging responsibility for his own screwups.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
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* TheScrappy: Though opinions vary on Digit, she fits the technical specs down to a T. Sarah wanders towards this territory occasionally, and Miles is probably this whenever he's not being TheWesley or just an out-and-out AuthorAvatar.
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* TheScrappy: Though opinions vary on Digit, she fits the technical specs down to a T. Sarah wanders towards this territory occasionally, and Miles is probably this whenever he's not being TheWesley a CreatorsPet or just an out-and-out AuthorAvatar.
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* TheWesley: Miles, as has been noted several times already.
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish, and try to [[RonTheDeathEater throw the blame at]] Mora (who is, recall, the main character) as if that somehow excuses him; however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish, and try to [[RonTheDeathEater throw the blame at]] Mora (who is, recall, the main character) as if that somehow excuses him; Jerkish; however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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** But aren't the Forums where fans go [[IncrediblyLamePun Miles]] around and in fact, where the DracoInLeatherPants are created? How do you count popularity outside the Forums? [[FridgeLogic In other Forums?]].
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]; however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]; Jerkish, and try to [[RonTheDeathEater throw the blame at]] Mora (who is, recall, the main character) as if that somehow excuses him; however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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**** YourMileageMayVary with that one--some people find that scene downright disturbing. As easy as it may be to forget, Sarah's a grown woman. Asking another grown woman no more than 7 years her senior to be her mommy. Yeah.
***** Well for all (or at least general) intents and purposes (apart from fanservice) Sarah ''is'' a [[ManChild child.]]
***** Well for all (or at least general) intents and purposes (apart from fanservice) Sarah ''is'' a [[ManChild child.]]
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* FetishFuel: Let's begin with the fact that Las Lindas is a furry fanservice comic that occasionally borders on becoming softcore porn and stars a cow with massive breasts, and work our way from there.
* FetishFuelStationAttendant: [[http://www.katbox.net/gallery/index.php/Chalo/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart Have a look at the bust chart and take your pick.]]
* FetishFuelStationAttendant: [[http://www.katbox.net/gallery/index.php/Chalo/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart Have a look at the bust chart and take your pick.]]
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** YourMileageMayVary--this troper found it obvious that the status quo of this comic would never be shaken up, since it never has been. Mora's comically off-model anatomy and the obvious "fanservice shot" angle don't help much either.
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]- however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]- with]]; however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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I think we can be a little more neutral than that.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who receives DisproportionateRetribution for his actions; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had received [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her a selfish heartless whore who deserves crippling injuries, life-threatening illnesses, or even death, and people who desperately want her shoehorned into a dysfunctional relationship with Miles and endlessly insist that she's a weak-willed {{Tsundere}} who loves [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] and only pretends to love guys like Minos.
* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that both parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the time]].
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her a selfish heartless whore who deserves crippling injuries, life-threatening illnesses, or even death, and people who desperately want her shoehorned into a dysfunctional relationship with Miles and endlessly insist that she's a weak-willed {{Tsundere}} who loves [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] and only pretends to love guys like Minos.
* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that both parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the time]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who constantly receives DisproportionateRetribution for his actions; DisproportionateRetribution; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] self-absorbed]] {{JerkAss}} that had received who's always [[ShillingTheWesley too much stealing the spotlight]].
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her aselfish selfish, heartless whore who deserves crippling injuries, life-threatening illnesses, illnesses- or even death, death- and people who desperately want her shoehorned into a dysfunctional relationship with Miles and endlessly insist Miles; the latter group insists that she's actually a weak-willed {{Tsundere}} who loves [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] and only pretends to love guys like Minos.
* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that both parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of thetime]]. time]].
* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]- however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her a
* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that both parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the
* CriticalBacklash\HypeBacklash: Miles' fans argue that most of his ostensible JerkAss moments just aren't that Jerkish- particularly given what [[MarySue Mora]] [[KarmaHoudini routinely gets away with]]- however, most of his PetTheDog moments likewise fall flat.
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* TheWesley: Miles. Period. '''[[{{Tron}} END OF LINE.]]'''
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* TheWesley: Miles. Period. '''[[{{Tron}} END OF LINE.]]'''Miles, as has been noted several times already.
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*** And then someone did a Take That, Scrappy to ''[[http://www.katbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=4728.msg124966#msg124966 him]]''.
*** Quickly turning into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when Soulkat owns up to that poster's well-thought out, laser-guided critique and ID remarks that he's "impressed."
*** Quickly turning into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when Soulkat owns up to that poster's well-thought out, laser-guided critique and ID remarks that he's "impressed."
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*** And then someone did a Take That, Scrappy to ''[[http://www.katbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=4728.msg124966#msg124966 him]]''.
*** Quickly''him'' on the boards, quickly turning into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when Soulkat owns owned up to that poster's well-thought out, laser-guided critique and ID remarks remarked that he's he was "impressed."
*** Quickly
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Chalo published [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=270 Comic 270]], this text was included as part of the update: "And in that fateful day, while in the middle of a lusty dream (I guess), the life of the lil rascal came to a end. Will someone remember him, after he's gone, I wonder? Only time will tell." Within the next week, Chalo's brother died.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Chalo published [[http://laslindas.[[http://www.laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=270 net/?p=533 Comic 270]], 265]], this text was included as part of the update: "And in that fateful day, while in the middle of a lusty dream (I guess), the life of the lil rascal came to a end. Will someone remember him, after he's gone, I wonder? Only time will tell." Within the next week, Chalo's brother died.
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Changing a red link. That trope would apply to most of the cast anyway. And correcting more spelling errors.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who recieves DisproportionateRetribution for his actions; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had recieved [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who recieves receives DisproportionateRetribution for his actions; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had recieved received [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
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* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that boht parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the time]].
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* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. It depends heavily in the AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that boht both parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the time]].
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* MemeticSexGod: This apparently applies to most of the females in the comic, but [[BuxomBabe Mora]], [[RichBitch Alejandra]], [[TeamMom Taffy]] and [[BrokenBird Rachael]] stand out the most in this area.
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* MemeticSexGod: This apparently applies to most of the females in the comic, but [[BuxomBabe [[GoodBadGirl Mora]], [[RichBitch Alejandra]], [[TeamMom Taffy]] and [[BrokenBird Rachael]] stand out the most in this area.
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** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=238 Idward's explanation of his fling with Mora]] (NSFW warning) was suprisingly touching, considering that his love of Mora had been pretty much PlayedForLaughs before. At least it helped flesh his chracter out a bit from a nerdy StalkerWithACrush.
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** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=238 Idward's explanation of his fling with Mora]] (NSFW warning) was suprisingly surprisingly touching, considering that his love of Mora had been pretty much PlayedForLaughs before. At least it helped flesh his chracter character out a bit from a nerdy StalkerWithACrush.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: [=SoulKat=] had apparently always intended to pair Miles and Rachael together, and lately has apparently decided it needs to happen as soon as possible, with little other than [=ID=] holding him back from doing it within a few comics, with the strips of Miles showing Rachsel his junked plane being the ''toned down'' version of their courtship. As Rachsel has previously given every indication of absolutely despising guys like Miles, this trope is in full effect as she's steadily [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into a fairly stereotypical {{Tsundere}} to facilitate their pairing.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: [=SoulKat=] had apparently always intended to pair Miles and Rachael together, and lately has apparently decided it needs to happen as soon as possible, with little other than [=ID=] holding him back from doing it within a few comics, with the strips of Miles showing Rachsel Rachael his junked plane being the ''toned down'' version of their courtship. As Rachsel Rachael has previously given every indication of absolutely despising guys like Miles, this trope is in full effect as she's steadily [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into a fairly stereotypical {{Tsundere}} to facilitate their pairing.
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The Broken Base example really had nothing to do with the trope, at all. Most of the rest was just removing Miles fanboying.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who recieve DisproportionateRetribution for actions, that honestly most of the cast is equally guilty one moment or the other in the comic and had several PetTheDog moments and NiceGuy actions; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had recieved [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and fans (both hardcore and casual) take a different interpretation of him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who recieve recieves DisproportionateRetribution for actions, that honestly most of the cast is equally guilty one moment or the other in the comic and had several PetTheDog moments and NiceGuy his actions; while the other side thinks he's a whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had recieved [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
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** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to burn.
** Highlighted in the Dungeons And Dames side-comic, where [[BigBad the explicitly evil "ice queen"]] wears an even more fanservicey version of Alejandra's festival dress.
* StrangledByTheRedString: [=SoulKat=] had apparently always intended to pair Miles and Rachael together, and lately has apparently decided it needs to happen as soon as possible, with little other than [=ID=] holding him back from doing it within a few comics, with the strips of Miles showing Rachsel his junked plane being the ''toned down'' version of their courtship. As Rachsel has previously given every indication of absolutely despising guys like Miles, this trope is in full effect as she's steadily [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into a fairly stereotypical {{Tsundere}} to facilitate their pairing.
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* TheWesley: Miles, depending [[SeriousBusiness whether you like it, you hate it or are Neutral to the character]]
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* TheWesley: Miles, depending [[SeriousBusiness whether you like it, you hate it or are Neutral to the character]]Miles. Period. '''[[{{Tron}} END OF LINE.]]'''
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* CriticalBacklash: Honestly, Miles. The thing is that he is overhated so ''much'' that when you finally watch him, not only he fail to "suck" to its epic loathe, but you can't stop feeling sorry for the guy for both his in canon and outside treatment. Also it doesn't help that many of the characters [[MoralMyopia are also]] {{Jerkass}}, with KickTheDog moments equal or far worse than him.
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** Actually, he did find out about this page a while back. He was [[{{Understatement}} not happy]].
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** Actually, he did find out about this page a while back. He was [[{{Understatement}} not happy]].happy.
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* CriticalBacklash: Honestly, Miles. The thing is tha he is overhated so ''much'' that when you finally watch him, not only he fail to "suck" to its epic loathe, but you can't stop feeling sorry for the guy for both his In canon and outside treatment. Also it doesn't help that many of the characters [[MoralMyopia are also]] {{Jerkass}}, with KickTheDog moments equal or far worse than him.
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* CriticalBacklash: Honestly, Miles. The thing is tha that he is overhated so ''much'' that when you finally watch him, not only he fail to "suck" to its epic loathe, but you can't stop feeling sorry for the guy for both his In in canon and outside treatment. Also it doesn't help that many of the characters [[MoralMyopia are also]] {{Jerkass}}, with KickTheDog moments equal or far worse than him.
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** But isn't the Forums where fans [[IncrediblyLamePun Miles]] around and in fact, where the DracoInLeatherPants are created? How do you count popularity outside the Forums? [[FridgedLogic In other Forums?]].
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** But isn't aren't the Forums where fans go [[IncrediblyLamePun Miles]] around and in fact, where the DracoInLeatherPants are created? How do you count popularity outside the Forums? [[FridgedLogic [[FridgeLogic In other Forums?]].
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: [[http://www.katbox.net/gallery/index.php/Chalo/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart/Las-Lindas-Bust-Chart Have a look at the bust chart and take your pick.]]
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* ShillingTheWesley: Arguably the whole point of the "Learning Curves" bonus comic. It was apparently supposed to show that Miles actually had some bad experiences and was once a loving genuine NiceGuy in a relationship who then lost the girl and became bitter. Unfortunately, since the bad experiences weren't actually that bad, and he pretty much neglected the girl and took her for granted as a friend with benefits right from the start, for most it just served to reinforce the perception that all he had was {{Wangst}} and that he was still dodging responsibility for his own screwups.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
** This trope is beginning to happen in the main comic as well. SK keeps trying to find new ways to put Miles in the spotlight and make him seem a lot nicer and more likeable than he actually is, when all he's doing is confirming the idea that Miles is nothing more than a lecherous, arrogant, somewhat delusional JerkAss, and actually causing more readers to dislike or hate Miles.
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Try not to lie, Miles fans.
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* InternetBackdraft: It's generally not a good idea to bring up the Miles/Taffy fight from the Harvest Festival arc, as it will cause some readers to say "[[{{Jerkass}} Miles]] needs to ''die!'' '''Horribly!''', [[BastardBoyfriend the sexist]], stuck up, disgusting misogyinist. [[FlatWhat Seriously, what is wrong with him?]]" and others to reply with "[[ManipulativeBastard She was emotinally playing]] with him [[AllTakeAndNoGive for months]] and he had finally '''enough''' and later he was empathic [[ChivalrousPervert enough to be honest]] and end their, quite disfunctional, relationship." The forum even tries to dodge this by cutting off such discussions before the flames can heat back up.
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* InternetBackdraft: It's generally not a good idea to bring up the Miles/Taffy fight from the Harvest Festival arc, as it will cause some readers to say "[[{{Jerkass}} Miles]] needs to ''die!'' '''Horribly!''', [[BastardBoyfriend the sexist]], stuck up, disgusting misogyinist. [[FlatWhat Seriously, what is wrong with him?]]" '''Horribly!'''" and others to reply with "[[ManipulativeBastard She was emotinally playing]] with him [[AllTakeAndNoGive for months]] and he had finally '''enough''' and later he was empathic [[ChivalrousPervert enough to be honest]] and end their, quite disfunctional, relationship."The stuckup cocktease prude whore deserved it. Bitch." The forum even tries to dodge this by cutting off such discussions before the flames can heat back up.
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\"It\'s X not Y\" is not an example. Soul Kat\'s reaction to the mistakes is an example.
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* GannonBanned: Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. Similarly, it's Rachael, not Racheal or Rachel, and Sarah, not Sara.
** Also it's Ambar, not Amber.
** Also it's Ambar, not Amber.
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* GannonBanned: Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. Similarly, it's Rachael, not Racheal or Rachel, and Sarah, not Sara.\n** Also it's Ambar, not Amber.
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Seriously, there was almost and embarrasing level of Mike hate and absolute Natter. Im nof a fan of him (rather neutral) and it still bother me how much pure loathe are in the page.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and and fans (both hardcore fans and casual) take the a different interpretation of him him; being a poor abused JerkassWoobie who recieve DisproportionateRetribution for actions, that honestly most of the cast is equally guilty one moment or the other in the comic and had several PetTheDog moments and NiceGuy who never catches a break, actions; while everyone else the other side thinks he's a whiny sexist JerkAss.whiny, selfish, underachieved, delusional, [[CasanovaWannabe sexist]] {{JerkAss}} that had recieved [[ShillingTheWesley too much spotlight]].
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* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. There's a large number of people who either don't care about him or are really tired of his [[TheWesley Wesley]] [[MarySue Stu]] status and constant {{Wangst}}, and a significantly smaller but extremely loud portion who thinks he's TheMessiah, adamantly insists that he can become a better character while simultaneously not wanting him to change, and suggests that Mora should be killed off for mistreating him, somehow allowing him to become the main character. And yes, at least one Miles fan has seriously suggested that last one.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Taffy [[spoiler: dumping Mile's ass after he flat out called her a whore, along with throwing a bowl of punch on him.]]
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early on in the first arc, as Mora is [[spoiler: desperately trying to find Minos again]] she comes across the thugs that nearly raped her earlier. [[spoiler: She takes them out without stopping.]]
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to burn.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Taffy [[spoiler: dumping Mile's ass after he flat out called her a whore, along with throwing a bowl of punch on him.]]
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early on in the first arc, as Mora is [[spoiler: desperately trying to find Minos again]] she comes across the thugs that nearly raped her earlier. [[spoiler: She takes them out without stopping.]]
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to burn.
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* BrokenBase: Mostly aligned along specific character lines. The Taffy/Miles incident mentioned below is one, the Rachael/Mora rivalry is another, and Miles is practically one all by himself. There's a large number of people who either don't care about him or are really tired of his [[TheWesley Wesley]] [[MarySue Stu]] status and constant {{Wangst}}, and a significantly smaller but extremely loud portion who thinks he's TheMessiah, adamantly insists that he can become a better character while simultaneously not wanting him to change, and suggests that Mora should be killed off for mistreating him, somehow allowing him to become the main character. And yes, at least one Miles fan has seriously suggested that last one.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Taffy [[spoiler: dumping Mile's ass after he flat out called her a whore, along with throwing a bowl of punch on him.]]
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early onIt depends heavily in the first arc, as Mora is [[spoiler: desperately trying to find Minos again]] she comes across the thugs AlternateCharacterInterpretation and mostly, that nearly raped her earlier. [[spoiler: She takes them out without stopping.]]
boht parts of the {{Hatedom}} and {{Fandom}} tend to be equally parts FanDumb [[SeriousBusiness most of the time]].
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had toburn.burn.
* CriticalBacklash: Honestly, Miles. The thing is tha he is overhated so ''much'' that when you finally watch him, not only he fail to "suck" to its epic loathe, but you can't stop feeling sorry for the guy for both his In canon and outside treatment. Also it doesn't help that many of the characters [[MoralMyopia are also]] {{Jerkass}}, with KickTheDog moments equal or far worse than him.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Taffy [[spoiler: dumping Mile's ass after he flat out called her a whore, along with throwing a bowl of punch on him.]]
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early on
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to
* CriticalBacklash: Honestly, Miles. The thing is tha he is overhated so ''much'' that when you finally watch him, not only he fail to "suck" to its epic loathe, but you can't stop feeling sorry for the guy for both his In canon and outside treatment. Also it doesn't help that many of the characters [[MoralMyopia are also]] {{Jerkass}}, with KickTheDog moments equal or far worse than him.
** But isn't the Forums where fans [[IncrediblyLamePun Miles]] around and in fact, where the DracoInLeatherPants are created? How do you count popularity outside the Forums? [[FridgedLogic In other Forums?]].
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* InternetBackdraft: It's generally not a good idea to bring up the Miles/Taffy fight from the Harvest Festival arc, as it will cause many readers to say "Miles needs to ''die!'' '''Horribly!'''" and Miles fans to reply with "The stuck-up prude cocktease whore should've put out, it's her own damn fault." The forum even tries to dodge this by cutting off such discussions before the flames can heat back up.
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* InternetBackdraft: It's generally not a good idea to bring up the Miles/Taffy fight from the Harvest Festival arc, as it will cause many some readers to say "Miles "[[{{Jerkass}} Miles]] needs to ''die!'' '''Horribly!'''" '''Horribly!''', [[BastardBoyfriend the sexist]], stuck up, disgusting misogyinist. [[FlatWhat Seriously, what is wrong with him?]]" and Miles fans others to reply with "The stuck-up prude cocktease whore should've put out, it's her own damn fault."[[ManipulativeBastard She was emotinally playing]] with him [[AllTakeAndNoGive for months]] and he had finally '''enough''' and later he was empathic [[ChivalrousPervert enough to be honest]] and end their, quite disfunctional, relationship." The forum even tries to dodge this by cutting off such discussions before the flames can heat back up.
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*** [=SoulKat=] admitted recently that it's Chalo himself who makes the outfit decisions for the Bust Chart, and he gave Chalo no input in relation to the outfits. YourMileageMayVary on whether or not this is believable, as some find it hard to imagine Chalo of all people CompletelyMissingThePoint of a bust chart without someone else's influence.
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* TheWesley: Miles is one, plain and simple.
** Miles is such a Wesley, in fact, that a few people on one board actually talked about suggesting a new trope: The Miles. For Wesleys that combine their authorial favorite status with unbelievable heights of arrogance, wangst and smarm.
* UnfortunateImplications: [=SoulKat=] stated at one point in late 2009 that there are not and will never be homosexual characters in the comic.
** At the same time, however, immature [[BetterDays Nayloresque]] views of lesbianism and bisexuality are apparently perfectly fine as long as it gets the comic more readers.
** Miles is such a Wesley, in fact, that a few people on one board actually talked about suggesting a new trope: The Miles. For Wesleys that combine their authorial favorite status with unbelievable heights of arrogance, wangst and smarm.
* UnfortunateImplications: [=SoulKat=] stated at one point in late 2009 that there are not and will never be homosexual characters in the comic.
** At the same time, however, immature [[BetterDays Nayloresque]] views of lesbianism and bisexuality are apparently perfectly fine as long as it gets the comic more readers.
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* TheWesley: Miles is one, plain and simple.
** Miles is such a Wesley, in fact, that a few people on one board actually talked about suggesting a new trope: The Miles. For Wesleys that combine their authorial favorite status with unbelievable heights of arrogance, wangst and smarm.
* UnfortunateImplications: [=SoulKat=] stated at one point in late 2009 that thereMiles, depending [[SeriousBusiness whether you like it, you hate it or are not and will never be homosexual characters in Neutral to the comic.
** At the same time, however, immature [[BetterDays Nayloresque]] views of lesbianism and bisexuality are apparently perfectly fine as long as it gets the comic more readers.character]]
** Miles is such a Wesley, in fact, that a few people on one board actually talked about suggesting a new trope: The Miles. For Wesleys that combine their authorial favorite status with unbelievable heights of arrogance, wangst and smarm.
* UnfortunateImplications: [=SoulKat=] stated at one point in late 2009 that there
** At the same time, however, immature [[BetterDays Nayloresque]] views of lesbianism and bisexuality are apparently perfectly fine as long as it gets the comic more readers.
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** Everyone is [[StalkerWithACrush Idward]] for [[MostCommonSuperPower Mora]], and everyone is [[QuestForSex Miles]] for [[TheChick Taffy.]]
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** Everyone is [[StalkerWithACrush Idward]] for [[MostCommonSuperPower Mora]], Mora, and everyone is [[QuestForSex Miles]] for [[TheChick Taffy.]]
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** Taffy, by a long shot, considering that she's popular enough to win practically every positive poll on the official website regardless of the category, including the poll about which character would you like to see have their own spin off series from the main cast.
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* CharacterDerailment: This is the only way to describe Sarah's fall from adorably naive and childish to downright stupid and ridiculously gullible.
** Which is particularly sad, because one of the subplots of that particular arc was [[{{CharacterDevelopment}} her trying to become more independent and mature.]] The {{Irony}} isn't lost.
** Which is particularly sad, because one of the subplots of that particular arc was [[{{CharacterDevelopment}} her trying to become more independent and mature.]] The {{Irony}} isn't lost.
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** More recently, the "Island Story" arc received heavy criticism, mostly because the whole thing seemed rushed in several areas.
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** More recently, the "Island Story" arc received heavy criticism, mostly because the whole thing seemed rushed in several areas.
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* EvilIsSexy: Alejandra counts for this to a certain degree. Din and Jin have had traits of this, especially when [[spoiler: they transform to evade Sarah and Digit's capture for almost killing Digit.]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Pretty much everyone, but Miles gets a special mention. His creator and hardcore fans take the interpretation of him being a poor abused NiceGuy who never catches a break, while everyone else thinks he's a whiny sexist JerkAss.
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her a selfish heartless whore who deserves crippling injuries, life-threatening illnesses, or even death, and people who desperately want her shoehorned into a dysfunctional relationship with Miles and endlessly insist that she's a weak-willed {{Tsundere}} who loves [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] and only pretends to love guys like Minos.
** Rachael also gets a disturbing amount of this, usually on the forum, and usually from people who hate her and call her a selfish heartless whore who deserves crippling injuries, life-threatening illnesses, or even death, and people who desperately want her shoehorned into a dysfunctional relationship with Miles and endlessly insist that she's a weak-willed {{Tsundere}} who loves [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]] and only pretends to love guys like Minos.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Taffy [[spoiler: dumping Mile's ass after he flat out called her a whore, along with throwing a bowl of punch on him.]]
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early on in the first arc, as Mora is [[spoiler: desperately trying to find Minos again]] she comes across the thugs that nearly raped her earlier. [[spoiler: She takes them out without stopping.]]
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to burn.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=537 Comic 267]]. Nothing like a bit of lighthearted ComedicSociopathy to lighten the mood left by a rather [[CerebusSyndrome cerebusy]] arc.
** Comic 170 - [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=343 "Wardrobe Malfunction"]] - nets Miles one for his suggestion to Alejandra in the last frame.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=113 Minos meets Sarah.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=557 "You can see the aliens too?!"]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=651 "I'm busy being a lesbian, okay?!"]]
*** For such a serious arc, [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=661 Building an Empire can be quite funny.]]
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Many, depending on who you ask.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=261 Mora fixing the little cow figurine]] [[{{WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic}} she broke]].
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=551 Taffy comforting Sarah]].
*** "Will you be my mommy?"
**** YourMileageMayVary with that one--some people find that scene downright disturbing. As easy as it may be to forget, Sarah's a grown woman. Asking another grown woman no more than 7 years her senior to be her mommy. Yeah.
***** Well for all (or at least general) intents and purposes (apart from fanservice) Sarah ''is'' a [[ManChild child.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=641 Tootsie and Alej's little party.]] [[{{VillainsOutShopping}} Too cute.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=603 This]] strip, after Tiare asks Mora what she learned from this whole ordeal. Even the most cold-hearted person has to find this at least somewhat touching.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=331 Peaceful Gesture.]] The best part is showing how Mora has developed from a [[{{JerkAss}} harsh, uncaring person who would much rather beat the crap out of someone then try to reconcile things]] to an almost TeamMom who genuinely cares for her {{Nakama}} and would be willing to try and become friends with Alej again.
** Not to mention not too long after Miles comes across Minos and sardonically asks him if he'll give him a speech. [[spoiler: He gets a punch to the gut instead.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare telling Miles exactly what he needs to hear.]] [[{{TakeThatScrappy}} Are you seeing a pattern?]]
** Early on in the first arc, as Mora is [[spoiler: desperately trying to find Minos again]] she comes across the thugs that nearly raped her earlier. [[spoiler: She takes them out without stopping.]]
** In the beginning after Mora [[spoiler: used Miles for cheap sex and literally threw him away at the same time she verbally abused him (telling him how mediocre in bed and worthless as a man he was) because Minos was averse to being manipulated by her, he (Minos) calmy tells her how horrible of a person she is and leaves.]] That had to burn.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=537 Comic 267]]. Nothing like a bit of lighthearted ComedicSociopathy to lighten the mood left by a rather [[CerebusSyndrome cerebusy]] arc.
** Comic 170 - [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=343 "Wardrobe Malfunction"]] - nets Miles one for his suggestion to Alejandra in the last frame.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=113 Minos meets Sarah.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=557 "You can see the aliens too?!"]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=651 "I'm busy being a lesbian, okay?!"]]
*** For such a serious arc, [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=661 Building an Empire can be quite funny.]]
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Many, depending on who you ask.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=261 Mora fixing the little cow figurine]] [[{{WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic}} she broke]].
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=551 Taffy comforting Sarah]].
*** "Will you be my mommy?"
**** YourMileageMayVary with that one--some people find that scene downright disturbing. As easy as it may be to forget, Sarah's a grown woman. Asking another grown woman no more than 7 years her senior to be her mommy. Yeah.
***** Well for all (or at least general) intents and purposes (apart from fanservice) Sarah ''is'' a [[ManChild child.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=641 Tootsie and Alej's little party.]] [[{{VillainsOutShopping}} Too cute.]]
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=603 This]] strip, after Tiare asks Mora what she learned from this whole ordeal. Even the most cold-hearted person has to find this at least somewhat touching.
** [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=331 Peaceful Gesture.]] The best part is showing how Mora has developed from a [[{{JerkAss}} harsh, uncaring person who would much rather beat the crap out of someone then try to reconcile things]] to an almost TeamMom who genuinely cares for her {{Nakama}} and would be willing to try and become friends with Alej again.
* FanNickname: Chalosan, [=SoulKat=], and ID_Fox are sometimes referred to as either "the Katbox Krew" or "the Big Three".
* FetishFuel: Let's begin with the fact that Las Lindas is a furry fanservice comic that occasionally borders on becoming softcore porn and stars a cow with massive breasts, and work our way from there.
* FetishFuel: Let's begin with the fact that Las Lindas is a furry fanservice comic that occasionally borders on becoming softcore porn and stars a cow with massive breasts, and work our way from there.
* MagnificentBastard: Ambar will ALWAYS win. And she will ALWAYS do it with a condescending smile on her face.
* MartyStu: Minos is often seen as one by fans. Miles too, though he's closer to TheWesley.
* MemeticMutation: Messiah's "Scandalous!", arguably.
** And Randal's "Fabulous!", inarguably.
* MartyStu: Minos is often seen as one by fans. Miles too, though he's closer to TheWesley.
* MemeticMutation: Messiah's "Scandalous!", arguably.
** And Randal's "Fabulous!", inarguably.
* TakeThatScrappy: [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=549 Tiare says what we're all thinking.]] You think Soulkat reads this page?
** Actually, he did find out about this page a while back. He was [[{{Understatement}} not happy]].
*** And then someone did a Take That, Scrappy to ''[[http://www.katbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=4728.msg124966#msg124966 him]]''.
*** Quickly turning into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when Soulkat owns up to that poster's well-thought out, laser-guided critique and ID remarks that he's "impressed."
** Actually, he did find out about this page a while back. He was [[{{Understatement}} not happy]].
*** And then someone did a Take That, Scrappy to ''[[http://www.katbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=4728.msg124966#msg124966 him]]''.
*** Quickly turning into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when Soulkat owns up to that poster's well-thought out, laser-guided critique and ID remarks that he's "impressed."
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** Neither Rachael nor Minos handled it any better.
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** Neither Rachael nor Minos handled it any better.better.
* TheWoobie: Taffy, in most parts of the comic combined with aspects of her childhood is this in spades.
* TheWoobie: Taffy, in most parts of the comic combined with aspects of her childhood is this in spades.
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** During the comic's early days, a number of gags were centered around the farm's well. The same well was recently the center of a rather [[TearJerker heartrending]] scene.* GannonBanned: Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. Similarly, it's Rachael, not Racheal or Rachel, and Sarah, not Sara.
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** During the comic's early days, a number of gags were centered around the farm's well. The same well was recently the center of a rather [[TearJerker heartrending]] scene.scene.
* GannonBanned: Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. Similarly, it's Rachael, not Racheal or Rachel, and Sarah, not Sara.
* GannonBanned: Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. Similarly, it's Rachael, not Racheal or Rachel, and Sarah, not Sara.
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** Tila Sunrise, too.* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Chalo published [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=270 Comic 270]], this text was included as part of the update: "And in that fateful day, while in the middle of a lusty dream (I guess), the life of the lil rascal came to a end. Will someone remember him, after he's gone, I wonder? Only time will tell." Within the next week, Chalo's brother died.
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** Tila Sunrise, too.too.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Chalo published [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=270 Comic 270]], this text was included as part of the update: "And in that fateful day, while in the middle of a lusty dream (I guess), the life of the lil rascal came to a end. Will someone remember him, after he's gone, I wonder? Only time will tell." Within the next week, Chalo's brother died.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Chalo published [[http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=270 Comic 270]], this text was included as part of the update: "And in that fateful day, while in the middle of a lusty dream (I guess), the life of the lil rascal came to a end. Will someone remember him, after he's gone, I wonder? Only time will tell." Within the next week, Chalo's brother died.
