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** Paul Stanley. While his attitude towards other people, former band members especially, is incredibly divisive, he does acknowledge this is a result of his rough upbringing, being teased for being Jewish, and mercilessly tormented because he was born with Microtia, a misshapen ear that he was in addition unable to hear from.

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* BrokenBase: "I Was Made For Loving You" tends to elicit strong reactions; KISS fans often condemn it as a trendy cash-in on the {{Disco}} movement, but on the other hand, it's frequently their top song on Apple Music.



* LoveItOrHateIt: "I Was Made For Loving You" tends to elicit strong reactions; KISS fans often condemn it as a trendy cash-in on the {{Disco}} movement, but on the other hand, it's frequently their top song on Apple Music.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: "I Was Made For Loving You" tends to elicit strong reactions; KISS fans often condemn it as a trendy cash-in on the {{Disco}} movement, but on the other hand, it's frequently their top song on Apple Music.
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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: The "lightning bolt" rendering of the double-s in the band's logo has been seen by some as similar to the logo of the Nazi SS, leading them to jump to the conclusion that the band are some how neo-Nazis or Nazi-sympathisers. In reality both Gene Vincent and Paul Stanley are Jewish and have relatives who either survived or died in the Holocaust.

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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: The "lightning bolt" rendering of the double-s in the band's logo has been seen by some as similar to the logo of the Nazi SS, leading them to jump to the conclusion that the band are some how neo-Nazis or Nazi-sympathisers. In reality both Gene Vincent Simmons and Paul Stanley are Jewish and have relatives who either survived or died in the Holocaust.
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* OffendingTheCreatorsOwn: The "lightning bolt" rendering of the double-s in the band's logo has been seen by some as similar to the logo of the Nazi SS, leading them to jump to the conclusion that the band are some how neo-Nazis or Nazi-sympathisers. In reality both Gene Vincent and Paul Stanley are Jewish and have relatives who either survived or died in the Holocaust.

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* AwardSnub: Once they finally got into the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame, it was only the four founders. They refused to perform at the induction because of this, with [[https://time.com/55425/kiss-gene-simmons-interview-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/ Simmons noting]] both that the Grateful Dead had all members ''and'' a non-performing lyricist, and Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer have been on the band longer than Ace Frehley and Peter Criss.



** The whole band has seen a reappraisal in later years, seeing as a lot of rock's most credible and legendary performers post-1970's has claimed inspiration or appreciation of them.

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** The whole band has seen a reappraisal in later years, seeing as a lot of rock's most credible and legendary performers post-1970's has have claimed inspiration or appreciation of them.
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*** KISS has never, ever done a disco song.

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*** ** KISS has never, ever done a disco song.
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** KISS has never, ever done a disco song.

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** *** KISS has never, ever done a disco song.



* "I Was Made For Loving You", the {{disco}} song that just about everyone in the USA pretends has never existed, is the most popular KISS song in Germany by far to the point that many don't even know any other KISS songs.

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* ** "I Was Made For Loving You", the {{disco}} song that just about everyone in the USA pretends has never existed, is the most popular KISS song in Germany by far to the point that many don't even know any other KISS songs.

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* "I Was Made For Loving You", the {{disco}} song that just about everyone in the USA pretends has never existed, is the most popular KISS song in Germany by far to the point that many don't even know any other KISS songs.



** In the 90s, Tommy Thayer is in a KISS tribute band called "Cold Gin" and took the role of Ace Frehley. And guess which member he remplaces (makeup included) ?

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** In the 90s, Tommy Thayer is in a KISS tribute band called "Cold Gin" and took the role of Ace Frehley. And guess which member he remplaces replaces (makeup included) ?
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** Specifically, The various editions of the ''Rolling Stone Album Guide'' give good ratings to ''Alive!'' and ''Destroyer''... and that's about it.

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** Specifically, The the various editions of the ''Rolling Stone Album Guide'' give good ratings to ''Alive!'' and ''Destroyer''... and that's about it.
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** Specifically, The various editions of the ''Rolling Stone Album Guide'' give good ratings to ''Alive!'' and ''Destroyer''...and that's about it.

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** Specifically, The various editions of the ''Rolling Stone Album Guide'' give good ratings to ''Alive!'' and ''Destroyer''... and that's about it.
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** According to the ''Decibel Geek Podcast'', this is also the case with ''I had Enough'' from the Animalize album. The reason why its not played in concerts anymore is because, apparently, the band and Bruce Kulick in particular end up completely exhausted by the end of it.

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** According to the ''Decibel Geek Podcast'', this is also the case with ''I "I had Enough'' Enough" from the Animalize album. ''Animalize''. The reason why its it's not played in concerts anymore is because, apparently, the band and Bruce Kulick in particular end up completely exhausted by the end of it.

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* EpicRiff: You know the house is gonna come down when "Detroit Rock City" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" (and others!) start playing.
** According to the ''Decibel Geek Podcast'', this is also the case with ''I had Enough'' from the Animalize album. The reason why its not played in concerts anymore is because, apparently, the band and Bruce Kulick in particular end up completely exhausted by the end of it.


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* EpicRiff: You know the house is gonna come down when "Detroit Rock City" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" (and others!) start playing.
** According to the ''Decibel Geek Podcast'', this is also the case with ''I had Enough'' from the Animalize album. The reason why its not played in concerts anymore is because, apparently, the band and Bruce Kulick in particular end up completely exhausted by the end of it.
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** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] and most badass and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a greedy [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]] Or is he a little bit of both?

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** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] coolest-looking]] and most badass and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a greedy [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]] Or is he a little bit of both?



* CrossesTheLineTwice: It seems to have always been Gene’s modus operendi; in particular, his interview with NPR’s Terry Gross is a prime example.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: It seems to have always been Gene’s Gene's modus operendi; operandi; in particular, his interview with NPR’s Terry Gross is a prime example.
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** To some fans, the years without make-up were the whole dork-age.
** To others, any time when the line-up doesn't include Criss AND Frehley.

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** To some fans, the years without make-up makeup were the whole dork-age.
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** To others, any time when the line-up lineup doesn't include Criss AND Frehley.
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** For ''many'', the 1979-1981 period, from ''Dynasty'' to ''Music for the Elder''. To be specific...

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** For ''many'', the 1979-1981 period, from ''Dynasty'' to ''Music for the Elder''.from "The Elder"''. To be specific...
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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Alive!'' was the band's mainstream breakthrough, but ''Alive II'' is considered even better. It sold four times as much and contains longtime live staples like "Detroit Rock City", "Shout It Out Loud", "Love Gun", and "God of Thunder", along with the hit single "Beth".
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* AwesomeEgo: While the truth of Gene Simmons' self-centered personality has been a turn-off for some fans, others may see it as a charming extension of the band's bombastic presentation, especially given that despite how unabashed he is about it, Simmons is [[AtLeastIAdmitIt pretty earnest about it]] all the same, which makes it [[LoveToHate hard to be completely mad with him]].

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* AwesomeEgo: While the truth of Gene Simmons' self-centered personality has been a turn-off for some fans, others may see it as a charming extension of the band's bombastic presentation, especially given that despite how unabashed he is about it, Simmons is [[AtLeastIAdmitIt pretty earnest about it]] all the same, which makes it [[LoveToHate hard to be completely mad with him]].
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* AwesomeEgo: While the truth of Gene Simmons' self-centered personality has been a turn-off for some fans, others may see it as a charming extension of the band's bombastic presentation, especially given that despite how unabashed he is about it, Simmons is [[AtLeastIAdmitIt pretty earnest about it]] all the same, which makes it [[LoveToHate hard to be completely mad with him]].
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** Many people forgot that "New York Groove" (the most well known track in Ace's 1978 solo album) was a song by Argent, ''originally'' by Hello.
** The PowerBallad "God Gave Rock n' Roll to You", which was ''also'' originally by Argent. When KISS covered it, they added a "[=II=]" to the title, possibly to differentiate the two songs more clearly, as KISS' version has completely different lyrics except for the chorus.

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** Many people forgot that "New York Groove" (the most well known track in Groove", which was released as a single from Ace's solo album in 1978 solo album) and became a big hit (the only real hit from ''any'' of the Music/KissSoloAlbums) was a song written by Argent, ''originally'' by Russ Ballard of Argent and was originally a major UK hit in 1975 for the GlamRock band Hello.
** The Speaking of Argent, they also did the original version of the PowerBallad "God Gave Rock n' Roll to You", which was ''also'' originally by Argent.You". When KISS covered it, they added a "[=II=]" to the title, possibly to differentiate the two songs more clearly, as KISS' version has completely different lyrics except for the chorus.
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** Heck, any lead guitarist not named Ace to an extent. Vinnie Vincent in particular. Vinnie's contributions are generally liked, but his playing style is ''wildly'' divisive; he's either an incredibly original and unique guitarist who was forced down by the rest of the band, or he's an atonal, utterly tuneless hack who can't play anything that isn't an aimless, chromatic mess with gratuitous whammy bar abuse (which wasn't really that pronounced during his time in KISS when Gene and Paul had final say over his solos, but his work in the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, when he had complete control over his playing style, is a different story).

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** Heck, any lead guitarist not named Ace to an extent. Vinnie Vincent in particular. Vinnie's contributions are generally liked, but his playing style is ''wildly'' divisive; he's either an incredibly original and unique guitarist who was forced down by the rest of the band, or he's an atonal, utterly tuneless hack who can't play anything that isn't an aimless, chromatic mess with gratuitous whammy bar abuse (which wasn't really that pronounced during his time in KISS Music/{{KISS}} when Gene and Paul had final say over his solos, but his work in the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, when he had complete control over his playing style, is a different story).
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* NightmareFuel: Gene Simmons' bass solo before "God of Thunder" at live concerts. Truly terrifying (the aftermath is on the cover of ''Alive II''.)
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* NarmCharm: Gene's cover of "When You Wish Upon A Star" from his first solo album. On paper it sounds like it shouldn't work at all, but Gene's genuinely passionate performance and the lush orchestral score makes it worth the listen.
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** For some, ''Music from The Elder'' is an interesting experiment and change of pace despite its commercial failure.

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** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] and most badass and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a greedy [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]]

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** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] and most badass and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a greedy [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]]finds?]] Or is he a little bit of both?



** Heck, any lead guitarist not named Ace to an extent. Vinnie Vincent in particular. Vinnie's contributions are generally liked, but his playing style is ''wildly'' divisive; he's either an incredibly original and unique guitarist who was forced down by the rest of the band, or he's an atonal, utterly tuneless hack who can't play anything that isn't an aimless, chromatic mess with gratuitous whammy bar abuse (which wasn't really that pronounced during his time in KISS, but his work in the Vinnie Vincent Invasion is a different story).

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** Heck, any lead guitarist not named Ace to an extent. Vinnie Vincent in particular. Vinnie's contributions are generally liked, but his playing style is ''wildly'' divisive; he's either an incredibly original and unique guitarist who was forced down by the rest of the band, or he's an atonal, utterly tuneless hack who can't play anything that isn't an aimless, chromatic mess with gratuitous whammy bar abuse (which wasn't really that pronounced during his time in KISS, KISS when Gene and Paul had final say over his solos, but his work in the Vinnie Vincent Invasion Invasion, when he had complete control over his playing style, is a different story).



** The song "Shandi" was a huge hit in Australia, and to this day the band always performs it during live performances in that country. In the United States, "Shandi" is a mostly-forgotten song and only reached 47 on the Billboard charts at the time of its release.

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** The song "Shandi" was a huge hit in Australia, and to this day the band always performs it during live performances in that country. [[note]]If you're watching or listening to a KISS show and hear "Shandi," you can almost guarantee it was recorded Down Under.[[/note]] In the United States, "Shandi" is a mostly-forgotten song and only reached 47 on the Billboard charts at the time of its release.



** In the 90s, Tommy Thayer is in a KISS tribute band called "Cold Gin" and took the role of Ace Frehley. And guess which member he remplaces (makeup inclued) ?

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** St. John was a talented guitarist but he wasn't right for the group. Weary from their constant battles with Vinnie Vincent, Gene and Paul wanted a guitarist who would play the songs the way they wanted them played. While St. John's quiet personality was easier to get along with than the egotistical Vincent, his constant playing improvisation grated on Gene and Paul almost immediately; when his medical condition sidelined him for the European leg of the ''Animalize'' tour, they brought in Bruce Kulick as a temporary replacement. Kulick, thrilled to be playing in the group, obeyed every directive Gene and Paul gave him and played the solos exactly the way they wanted every night. When St. John recovered enough to begin playing in the shows again, Gene and Paul quickly decided that while Kulick didn't have St. John's raw talent, he was a much better fit for KISS.
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*** ''Dynasty'': It's unarguable that it was perhaps the biggest commercially successful studio album in the entire history of the band (if one ignores the ''Alive'' compilations), but what most people don't know is that, in the long run, ''Dynasty'' itself ''almost destroyed the band when it was first released''. With [[NewSoundAlbum the shift to the far more mainstream disco genre]], although the album proved to be a commercial success, it pretty much alienated the fans that had followed the band since its early beginnings, resulting in nearly empty arenas and stadiums when the band went on tour, something unheard of when it came to KISS concerts and their particular fame.[[note]]In fact, they ''lost'' money during this tour, as each concert cost no less than ''ONE million dollars each'' ![[/note]]
*** ''Unmasked'': After promising a return to the heavier sound they were known for they proceeded to release ''Unmasked'', which was a critical flop due to the still present "pop sound". To make matters worse, the following album was...

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*** ''Dynasty'': It's unarguable that it was perhaps the biggest commercially successful studio album in the entire history of the band (if one ignores the ''Alive'' compilations), but what most people don't know is that, in the long run, ''Dynasty'' itself ''almost destroyed the band when it was first released''. With [[NewSoundAlbum the shift to the far more mainstream disco genre]], although the album proved to be a commercial success, it pretty much alienated began alienating the fans that had followed the band since its early beginnings, resulting in nearly empty less-than-sold-out arenas and stadiums when the band went on tour, something unheard of when it came to KISS concerts and their particular fame.[[note]]In fact, they ''lost'' money during this tour, as they had greatly expanded their stage set, resulting in each concert cost costing no less than ''ONE million dollars each'' ![[/note]]
![[/note]] In addition, KISS's popularity amongst the younger age set began to backfire; when you're in your teens, it's simply not considered "cool" to like the same things your kid brother does.
*** ''Unmasked'': After promising a return to the heavier sound they were known for they proceeded to release ''Unmasked'', which was a critical flop due to the still present "pop sound". While the band had big hit in Australia with "Shandi" and a successful tour there, their situation back in the USA became even more precarious. To make matters worse, the following album was...



*** ''Creatures of the Night'', while successful critically due to being the heaviest KISS album yet and featuring the band's strongest songs in some time, didn't fare any better on the commercial and on the tour side of things (many people also attribute this to two founding members, lead guitarist Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss leaving the band around the same time).

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*** ''Creatures of the Night'', while successful critically due to being the heaviest KISS album yet and featuring the band's strongest songs in some time, didn't fare any better on the commercial and on the tour side of things (many people also attribute this to two founding members, lead guitarist Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss leaving the band around the same time). While the band did have a successful mini-tour in Brazil playing stadiums, their American tour was a disaster; Paul later remarked that during one meagerly-attended show, he tossed a guitar pick into the crowd, only to have it go over the heads of everyone there and land on the floor.

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** Ace is probably the fan favorite. Having the best 1978 solo album helps.

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** Ace is probably the fan favorite. Having the best 1978 solo album helps. Not to mention he's probably the only member actually ''recognized'' for being especially talented.



* JerkassWoobie: Gene Simmons, of all people. Start with having polio as a child.

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* JerkassWoobie: Gene Simmons, of all people. Start with having polio as a child.child, growing up dirt-poor with his Holocaust-survivor mother, and moving to a whole new country, where everything is different, and nobody speaks your language.
** Vinnie Vincent. The man has been unreliable and an ass to both musical collaborators and fans alike, but has also had a long history of depression, legal issues, one wife of his being ''murdered'' and the other one drinking herself to death, and dealing with the backlash of replacing the universally beloved Ace Frehley.


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** The whole band has seen a reappraisal in later years, seeing as a lot of rock's most credible and legendary performers post-1970's has claimed inspiration or appreciation of them.
** The band's early work has also found new appreciation the last few years, particularly the very first three or four albums, which feature some downright ''nasty'' proto-metal, and a lot more experimentation than the safe party-rock act Kiss would become later on.
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* EarWorm: Several. "Rock and Roll All Nite" and "I Was Made for Lovin' You" are very good examples of this.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Not to anyone involved in the band's music, but their ''technician'', "Ampie"; most people today know him as John Elder Robison, autism rights advocate and author of ''Look Me in the Eye'', an autobiography about his life with undiagnosed UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: The song "Detroit Rock City" is one of many rather inappropriate songs featured on Tooth Tunes, a line of toothbrushes that when used play music. [[SarcasmMode Nothing brings kids to brush their teeth quite like a song about a man going way over the speed limit while going to a KISS concert and dying in a car crash, right?]] Not to mention it's a true story and one of the lyrics is either "I know I'm gonna die, why?" or "I know I'm gonna die, and I don't care!" depending on the version.

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