History YMMV / Kiss

15th Nov '17 1:33:48 PM Ezclee4050
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* CounterpartComparison: They have some odd and interesting parallels to Music/TheRamones. New York-based (with several Jewish members), built around a simple, memorable gimmick (wearing makeup/everyone having the same last name), generally being well-behaved despite their wild image but with one member who indulged heavily in ArtisticStimulation (Ace Frehley/Dee Dee Ramone), initially dismissed as novelties but now considered icons.
31st Jul '17 9:21:48 PM PeaceAndLove
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23rd Jul '17 9:48:34 PM SPBurke
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19th Jun '17 8:37:31 AM BlackSwan81
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* InternetBackdraft: There must be some unwritten internet rule that every Kiss video on YouTube must have more comments attacking the current lineup (namely Singer and Thayer) than talking about the band in the actual video.
6th Jun '17 9:41:18 AM SnowHesher
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** The song "Shandi" was a huge hit in Australia, and to this day the band always performs it during live performances in that country. In the United States, "Shandi" is a mostly-forgotten song and only reached 47 on the Billboard charts at the time of its release.
1st Jun '17 12:06:07 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jzve-Tmd70 Their 1978 interview]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvFNs3_uaUg with Tom Snyder]]. It was one of their biggest publicity fiascoes because, contrary to the band's original intentions, it exposed to the audience their true personalities for the first time. The interview was supposed to showcase the members as serious, respectable musicians with a personal mystique on par with the Beatles or the Who, but as the program went on, one could see the nasty inner tensions simmering between the original members as well as their personal flaws; e.g. Simmons' self-important dickishness and Frehley's irresponsible but incredibly hilarious party-hearty drunkenness. You can even see how Simmons is fuming over how Frehley's behavior accidentally stole the spotlight everytime, earning most of TomSnyder's attention and (undeservedly) endearing Ace to the fans even more.

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* NeverLiveItDown: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jzve-Tmd70 Their 1978 interview]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvFNs3_uaUg with Tom Snyder]]. It was one of their biggest publicity fiascoes because, contrary to the band's original intentions, it exposed to the audience their true personalities for the first time. The interview was supposed to showcase the members as serious, respectable musicians with a personal mystique on par with the Beatles Music/TheBeatles or the Who, Music/TheWho, but as the program went on, one could see the nasty inner tensions simmering between the original members as well as their personal flaws; e.g. Simmons' self-important dickishness and Frehley's irresponsible but incredibly hilarious party-hearty drunkenness. You can even see how Simmons is fuming over how Frehley's behavior accidentally stole the spotlight everytime, earning most of TomSnyder's attention and (undeservedly) endearing Ace to the fans even more.
18th May '17 2:59:46 PM TroperBeDoper
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::: ''Dynasty'': it's unarguable that it was perhaps the biggest commercially successful studio album in the entire history of the band (if one ignores the ''Alive'' compilations), but what most people don't know is that, in the long run, ''Dynasty'' itself ''almost destroyed the band when it was first released''. With [[NewSoundAlbum the shift to the far more mainstream disco genre]], although the album proved to be a commercial success, it pretty much alienated the fans that had followed the band since its early beginnings, resulting in nearly empty arenas and stadiums when the band went on tour, something unheard of when it came to KISS concerts and their particular fame.[[note]]In fact, they ''lost'' money during this tour, as each concert cost no less than ''ONE million dollars each'' ![[/note]]
::: ''Unmasked'': After promising a return to the heavier sound they were known for they proceeded to release ''Unmasked'', which was a critical flop due to the still present "pop sound". To make matters worse, the following album was...
::: The (''in'')famous ''Music from "The Elder"'': The band's ConceptAlbum proved to be a catastrophic commercial ''and'' critical flop which lead to the outright cancellation of the album's tour, once again a first for any KISS release.
::: ''Creatures of the Night'', while successful critically due to being the heaviest KISS album yet and featuring the band's strongest songs in some time, didn't fare any better on the commercial and on the tour side of things (many people also attribute this to two founding members, lead guitarist Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss leaving the band around the same time).
::: ...And ''finally'', they remove their makeup and released ''Lick It Up,'' which didn't chart very high, but was still certified gold within a few months of release. This is largely considered attributable to publicity generated by the band's decision to do away with the makeup and costumes concurrent with the album's release. Then ''Animalize'' was released, went gold quickly, and the band's finances were back at normal (excluding contractual issues with Vinnie Vincent and health issues with Mark St. John), although sell-out concerts would still elude them for one more album, finally going to back to their usual tour success with ''Crazy Nights''.

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::: ''Dynasty'': it's ***''Dynasty'': It's unarguable that it was perhaps the biggest commercially successful studio album in the entire history of the band (if one ignores the ''Alive'' compilations), but what most people don't know is that, in the long run, ''Dynasty'' itself ''almost destroyed the band when it was first released''. With [[NewSoundAlbum the shift to the far more mainstream disco genre]], although the album proved to be a commercial success, it pretty much alienated the fans that had followed the band since its early beginnings, resulting in nearly empty arenas and stadiums when the band went on tour, something unheard of when it came to KISS concerts and their particular fame.[[note]]In fact, they ''lost'' money during this tour, as each concert cost no less than ''ONE million dollars each'' ![[/note]]
::: *** ''Unmasked'': After promising a return to the heavier sound they were known for they proceeded to release ''Unmasked'', which was a critical flop due to the still present "pop sound". To make matters worse, the following album was...
::: *** The (''in'')famous ''Music from "The Elder"'': The band's ConceptAlbum proved to be a catastrophic commercial ''and'' critical flop which lead to the outright cancellation of the album's tour, once again a first for any KISS release.
::: *** ''Creatures of the Night'', while successful critically due to being the heaviest KISS album yet and featuring the band's strongest songs in some time, didn't fare any better on the commercial and on the tour side of things (many people also attribute this to two founding members, lead guitarist Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss leaving the band around the same time).
::: ...*** ...And ''finally'', they remove their makeup and released ''Lick It Up,'' which didn't chart very high, but was still certified gold within a few months of release. This is largely considered attributable to publicity generated by the band's decision to do away with the makeup and costumes concurrent with the album's release. Then ''Animalize'' was released, went gold quickly, and the band's finances were back at normal (excluding contractual issues with Vinnie Vincent and health issues with Mark St. John), although sell-out concerts would still elude them for one more album, finally going to back to their usual tour success with ''Crazy Nights''.
24th Mar '17 11:13:00 PM vexer
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** In the early 1980s (prior to the unmasked years) KISS' popularity had severely declined all over the world... except for Japan and Australia, where they remained as popular as they were in the 1970s.

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** In the early 1980s (prior to the unmasked years) KISS' popularity had severely declined all over the world... except for Japan Japan, New Zealand and Australia, where they remained as popular as they were in the 1970s.
3rd Jan '17 4:42:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BaseBreaker:
** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] and most {{Badass}} and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a [[GreedyJew greedy]] [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]]

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** Gene Simmons: is he the single [[RatedMForManly Manliest]], [[EvilIsCool coolest looking]] and most {{Badass}} badass and LeadBassist ''ever'', or a [[GreedyJew greedy]] [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniac]] [[RatedMForMoney who wastes his money]] [[TheMerch on everything he finds?]]
19th Nov '16 6:48:25 PM Doc_Loki
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* ExecutiveMeddling: One of the contributing factors to ''Music From "The Elder"'''s failure - the track order was meddled with by the studio to put the singles closer to the start. On any other KISS album, that might not have mattered, but on a ConceptAlbum, it made the storyline almost impossible to follow. (The correct track order was restored when the album was reissued on CD.)
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