History YMMV / JohnCena

8th Feb '16 7:00:20 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: It is almost universally agreed that the best match Cena has ever had was with Wrestling/CMPunk at the 2011 edition of ''Wrestling/MoneyInTheBank''. The match was so good that it even eclipsed his two matches with '''Wrestling/ShawnMichaels''', which is a testament to the chemistry that Cena and Punk had together. ** His final match with Punk, on the 25th Feb 2013 edition of Raw with his No.1 Contender spot for Wrestlemania 29 on the line, was likewise met with great acclaim, and is arguably as good or even better.
9th Dec '15 3:26:37 PM Nyame
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* VindicatedByHistory: After Cena took time off in late 2015, the quality of RAW tanked as Wrestling/RomanReigns became the focus of the show. By ''Survivor Series 2015'', several smarks stated that they actively ''missed'' Cena, and many began to look at his rise to the top more objectively. Unlike Reigns, whose entire push has been manufactured since his debut with the rest of Wrestling/TheShield, Cena actually got over organically. Of the famous OVW class that debuted in the company in 2002 (Orton, Batista, Lesnar, and Cena), Cena had the least amount of help from the company -- Orton and Batista were both placed in Wrestling/{{Evolution}} with Wrestling/TripleH, while Lesnar got Heyman and was hotshotted to the main event within his first year with the company. Cena floundered, and stood the chance of getting fired if Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon hadn't heard him rapping and helped him develop the "Doctor of Thuganomics" gimmick. After that, he got so popular that the company had no choice but to push him, especially as two others from his class didn't have their pushes pan out well (Lesnar left for eight years, Orton got the title way too early and had to wait another three years before he got it again -- Batista was briefly more over than Cena for a while but he got moved to SD! to carry that show). It was the booking of his character ''after'' the title that ruined him for the fans (along with the company's outright refusal to turn him heel), but to Cena's credit, he at least tried to make the gimmick bearable and improved his wrestling to the point where he was considered one of the best workers in the company. When he left and the much more green Reigns had the spotlight, many began to realize that Cena was a much better performer than the fans ever gave him credit for.
9th Dec '15 7:21:15 AM bonesawisready
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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: ** People forget: The new "[[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman]] Sucks" circlejerk sounds awfully familiar to Cena years ago. Cena was clamored to be pushed, because he was clearly the future. No even a few months into his first title reign and smarks turned on him. Same thing with Triple H. The consensus was that Triple H was the best wrestler and deserved the title. Within months of his first title reign and people were sick on him and said he was overrated. It's always the same. Now that Cena is halfway out the door people are starting to change their tune.
7th Dec '15 4:40:27 PM SomeoneElse17
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** JOHN CENA SUUUUUUUUCKS! JOHN CENA SUUUUUUUUCKS! [[note]]Sung to the tune of his entrance theme, this chant was heard about two or three times over the years (recorded on Website/YouTube before the 2014 Night After [=WrestleMania=] show, then became a thing done once in awhile over the following year before the 2015 Night After [=WrestleMania=] show. Since then it's become practically mandatory, much like the "YOU SUCK!" chants at Kurt Angle.[[/note]]
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** JOHN CENA SUUUUUUUUCKS! JOHN CENA SUUUUUUUUCKS! [[note]]Sung to the tune of his entrance theme, this chant was heard about two or three times over the years (recorded on Website/YouTube Website/YouTube) before getting heard live and loud on the 2014 Night After [=WrestleMania=] show, then became a thing done once in awhile over the following year before the 2015 Night After [=WrestleMania=] show. Since then it's become practically mandatory, much like the "YOU SUCK!" chants at Kurt Angle.[[/note]]
28th Nov '15 8:08:07 PM Nyame
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* PoisonOakEpilepticTrees: After Cena took some time off towards the end of 2015 so he could host his new TV show, the terrible booking of the main roster became more and more apparent, culminating in ''Wrestling/SurvivorSeries 2015'', the ending of which was publicly lambasted by almost all of the Internet, including one Wrestling/MickFoley, who made a post on Facebook echoing the thoughts of practically every fan even remotely privy to how things work in the company (which might as well just be every fan at this point), after the equally horrible RAW the night after. After ''that'' fiasco, many began to admit that they actually '''''missed''''' Cena, leading to some theorizing (half-jokingly, half-not) that this is all some elaborate plot of VinceMcMahon's to get Cena over with the smark crowd again.
27th Nov '15 4:35:18 AM JamesAustin
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** Most opponents built up to face John Cena subsequently are relegated back down the card after they serve their purpose. Wade Barrets been a jobber for up and comers and his brief resurgence to the main event was still focused on Cena. CM Punk ended up booked in one of the least significant title reigns in professional wrestling history as a cowardly heel champion relying on outside interference to keep his title, and it wasn't until the return of the Rock that he got his tough-guy credential back ([[FleetingDemographicRule luckily people will likely forget the details in seven years and just remember he had a long reign]]); Daniel Bryan managed to stay popular despite being repeatedly and ultimately defeated by Randy Orton while Big Show stole his feud and catch phrase. R-Truth faded back into near irrelevance, Ryback became a cry baby even lower than R-Truth. The Shield went from unstoppable when altogether going over the Brothers Of Destruction/Hell No to not being able to beat John Cena with a three to one advantage and then losing the random pairing of Wrestling/TheUsos and Christian. Wrestling/DamienSandow has been on a nonstop losing streak that's seen his "intellectual" character degenerate into dressing like Magneto.
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** Most opponents built up to face John Cena subsequently are relegated back down the card after they serve their purpose. Wade Barrets Barrett has been a jobber for up and comers and his brief resurgence to the main event was still focused on Cena. After CM Punk main evented ''Raw 1000'' with Cena, Punk ended up booked in one of the least significant title reigns in professional wrestling history as a cowardly heel champion relying on outside interference to keep his title, and it wasn't until the return of the Rock that he got his tough-guy credential back ([[FleetingDemographicRule luckily people will likely forget the details in seven years and just remember he had a long reign]]); Daniel Bryan managed to stay popular despite being repeatedly and ultimately defeated by Randy Orton while Big Show stole his feud and catch phrase. R-Truth faded back into near irrelevance, Ryback became a cry baby even lower than R-Truth. The Shield went from unstoppable when altogether going over the Brothers Of Destruction/Hell No to not being able to beat John Cena with a three to one advantage and then losing the random pairing of Wrestling/TheUsos and Christian. Wrestling/DamienSandow has been on a nonstop losing streak that's seen his "intellectual" character degenerate into dressing like Magneto.
10th Nov '15 6:05:47 PM Nyame
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** WWE's marketing of their charity efforts tends to leave the impression that all the other superstars sit on their asses and eat Doritos all weekend--or do charity in required group efforts--while Cena is the only one who goes out of his way to do it and more. This runs contrary to despite numerous accounts from both current and former WWE Superstars insisting that the majority of the roster is just as active with charity but [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg don't get the publicity for it]]. The fact that Cena himself references his charity causes in the occasional "I-do-this-for-[X]" promo only adds to the controversy, with certain fans feeling that WWE is outright exploiting what Cena does for charity to try to get his character universally over.
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** WWE's marketing of their charity efforts tends to leave the impression that all the other superstars sit on their asses and eat Doritos all weekend--or do charity in required group efforts--while Cena is the only one who goes out of his way to do it and more. This runs contrary to despite numerous accounts from both current and former WWE Superstars insisting that the majority of the roster is just as active with charity but [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg don't get the publicity for it]]. The fact that Cena himself references his charity causes in the occasional "I-do-this-for-[X]" promo only adds to the controversy, with certain fans feeling that WWE is outright exploiting what Cena does for charity to try to get his character universally over. As noted, most of the blame goes to the WWE on this -- nobody has any issues with Cena himself, as it's obvious that John really does love kids and genuinely enjoys his charity work.
27th Oct '15 2:52:09 PM Warmachine3974
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* [[HeReallyCanAct He Really Can Wrestle]]: He's had people react this way to his better matches. For his tendency towards formulaic matches and FiveMovesOfDoom, come Judgement Day, and he has a tendency to pull out the stops in [=PPVs=]. Check out the awesome page for some examples.
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* [[HeReallyCanAct He Really Can Wrestle]]: He's had people react this way to his better matches. For his tendency towards formulaic matches and FiveMovesOfDoom, come Judgement Day, and he has a tendency to pull pulls out the stops in [=PPVs=]. Check out the awesome page for some a whole list of examples.
26th Oct '15 9:05:40 PM Nyame
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** This sentiment started popping up around 2009-2010, though Cena still got the occasional "You can't wrestle!" chant. Then his famous match with CM Punk happened, a match so good that some people to this day argue it as the best match in WWE history, and the chants died away completely. Nowadays the complaints are only about his character -- his wrestling ability has gone from maligned to well-respected.

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** The US Open Challenge. Considering the lack luster quality of RAW the past year and Cena's improved ring work, it's one of the few things that makes post-''Wrestling/WrestleMania'' season worth watching, partially from the excitement of wondering who's going to answer the challenge next.
23rd Oct '15 10:49:55 PM Warmachine3974
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* [[HeReallyCanAct He Really Can Wrestle]]: He's had people react this way to his better matches. For his tendency towards formulaic matches and FiveMovesOfDoom, come Judgement Day, and he has a tendency to pull out the stops in [=PPVs=]. Check out the awesome page for some examples.
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