History YMMV / HoratioHornblower

16th Jul '16 3:31:09 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Archie, to an extent, caught between those fans who dislike his addition into the series as he wasn't in the books, and those who think he added a nice element to the narrative and a more accessible side to the title character.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Archie, to an extent, caught between those fans who dislike his addition into the series as he wasn't in the books, and those who think he added a nice element to the narrative and a more accessible side to the title character.
9th Jul '16 9:26:00 PM maxwellsilver
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** Archie Kennedy, first to the writers and cast, ''then'' to the fans. Archie was only intended to be in "Even Chance" but he (and his actor Creator/JamieBamber) were so well liked by the cast and crew that he got written into "The Duchess and the Devil and "Frogs and Lobsters", making him a favorite among fans. The substantial expansion of his role in the series gets him beyond an Ensemble Darkhorse and pushes him to the realm of {{Breakout Character}}s. This led to the events in ExecutiveMeddling.
8th Jul '16 6:51:07 AM Berrenta
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The first series was filmed on ships, and it looked ''awesome''. The second series wasn't; still looked pretty good. But in the third series, they denoted snow at sea just by painting the sets white -- there are paint drips clearly visible when the gunports are opened.
* [[WhenSheSmiles When He Smiles]]:
** Horatio. Attractive at the best of times, but positively endearing when he's happy.
** Archie Kennedy. When he's happy, the sun comes out.
31st Mar '16 5:27:04 AM eowynjedi
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Sawyer's fall and later death in ''Lieutenant Hornblower'' deliberately invites it. Was it Hornblower or Wellard who pushed him? Was it ''really'' a convenient accident? There is also a popular theory (put forward by Parkinson's unofficial biography) that Hornblower killed Sawyer during the prisoner uprising and blamed the Spanish, as it would be strange for a straitjacketed man to be killed in a battle and Hornblower has been known to ShootTheDog. But then there's also the question of whether Hornblower could do such a thing as a young man, as he's shown to not be completely inured to death and killing yet. Then there's the short story "The Hand of Destiny", in which it is made clear that it was the other man who shot a tyrannical captain and Hornblower let him. All in all, a subject for consideration.
26th Dec '15 12:40:14 AM maxwellsilver
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** Captain Pellew is prone to such a treatment. In Series One, he is universally loved, and everybody is impressed and awed by his character and abilities. In Series Two, his reputation suffers a serious blow because of his favouritism and lack of interest in other officers other than Hornblower. In Series Three only proves than the truth and honesty might not be an integral part of his character and his morals are questioned. Some fics try to find deeper meaning in his lack of concern for other sailors, and many {{Fix Fic}}s in AlternateUniverse try to absolve him.

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** Captain Pellew is prone to such a treatment. In Series One, he is universally loved, and everybody is impressed and awed by his character and abilities. In Series Two, his reputation suffers a serious blow because of his favouritism and lack of interest in other officers other than Hornblower. In Series Three only proves than the truth and honesty might not be an integral part of his character and his morals are questioned. Some fics try to find deeper meaning in his lack of concern for other sailors, and many {{Fix Fic}}s in AlternateUniverse try to absolve him.



** Archie Kennedy, first to the writers and cast, ''then'' to the fans. Archie was only intended to be in "Even Chance" but he (and his actor Creator/JamieBamber) were so well liked by the cast and crew that he got written into "The Duchess and the Devil and "Frogs and Lobsters", making him a favorite among fans. The substantial expansion of his role in the series gets him beyond an Ensamble Dakrhorse and pushes him to the realm of {{Breakout Character}}s. This led to the events in ExecutiveMeddling.
** [[GentlemanSnarker Major Edrington]] in "The Wrong War"/"The Frogs and the Lobsters". Only appears in one instalment, but he's very popular among the fans.

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** Archie Kennedy, first to the writers and cast, ''then'' to the fans. Archie was only intended to be in "Even Chance" but he (and his actor Creator/JamieBamber) were so well liked by the cast and crew that he got written into "The Duchess and the Devil and "Frogs and Lobsters", making him a favorite among fans. The substantial expansion of his role in the series gets him beyond an Ensamble Dakrhorse Ensemble Darkhorse and pushes him to the realm of {{Breakout Character}}s. This led to the events in ExecutiveMeddling.
** [[GentlemanSnarker Major Edrington]] Edrington in "The Wrong War"/"The Frogs and the Lobsters". Only appears in one instalment, but he's very popular among the fans.
26th Dec '15 12:37:36 AM maxwellsilver
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Being written from 1937 to 1967.
7th Nov '15 11:52:00 PM maxwellsilver
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** "The Even Chance": Midshipman Jack Simpson ruthlessly torments his fellow midshipmen, both physically and [[MindRape psychologically]]. He is a {{sadist}}ic [[TheBully bully]] who takes great pleasure in his evil games. He claims that he knows the guys' secrets and what gnaws their souls, and uses it as blackmail. He keeps [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating them]] [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown mercilessly]]. His abuse of Archie Kennedy is the worst as he is the one most terrified of him, and Simpson's mere presence gives him stress-induced ConvulsiveSeizures. Simpson is able to manipulate the situation and is never held responsible, and the others are punished instead. Later he tries to kill his shipmates in the middle of a raid by setting one adrift in a boat and shooting the other. When challenged to the DuelToTheDeath, he cheats and claims it was a misfire. Finally, when his life is spared, he's unable to deal with CruelMercy and tries to stab his opponent InTheBack.
** "The Frogs and the Lobsters": Colonel [[AristocratsAreEvil Marquis]] Moncoutant is one of the leaders of French Royalist troops who set on a mission to restore the monarchy in France during the French Revolution with the help of the British Navy. However, he doesn't care much about the cause and not at all about his soldiers. The fate of other aristocrats doesn't concern him either, but he's very proud that he's BlueBlood and he believes that common people are impossible to improve, comparing them to animals. He killed a mayor and nearly [[WouldHurtAChild shot a child]] for singing ''Marseillaise'' upon his arrival to his village, and later he keeps gleefully [[OffWithHisHead killing off villagers with his personal guillotine]] one after another for no bigger offence than [[DisproportionateRetribution selling old bread]]. He never shows any remorse for his evil deeds.
* CrossoverShip: The fandom has taken to pairing Major Edrington with [[Literature/{{Sharpe}} Richard Sharpe]] [[CrackPairing despite]] or [[SlapSlapKiss perhaps]] ''[[BelligerentSexualTension because]]'' he's exactly the kind of officer Sharpe would despise if he was incompetent. Major Edrington isn't, so he's precisely the officer [[FridgeBrilliance Sharpe wishes he was.]]

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** "The Even Chance": Midshipman Jack Simpson ruthlessly torments his fellow midshipmen, both physically and [[MindRape psychologically]]. psychologically. He is a {{sadist}}ic [[TheBully bully]] sadistic bully who takes great pleasure in his evil games. He claims that he knows the guys' secrets and what gnaws their souls, and uses it as blackmail. He keeps [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating them]] [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown mercilessly]].them mercilessly. His abuse of Archie Kennedy is the worst as he is the one most terrified of him, and Simpson's mere presence gives him stress-induced ConvulsiveSeizures. Simpson is able to manipulate the situation and is never held responsible, and the others are punished instead. Later he tries to kill his shipmates in the middle of a raid by setting one adrift in a boat and shooting the other. When challenged to the DuelToTheDeath, he cheats and claims it was a misfire. Finally, when his life is spared, he's unable to deal with CruelMercy and tries to stab his opponent InTheBack.
** "The Frogs and the Lobsters": Colonel [[AristocratsAreEvil Marquis]] Marquis Moncoutant is one of the leaders of French Royalist troops who set on a mission to restore the monarchy in France during the French Revolution with the help of the British Navy. However, he doesn't care much about the cause and not at all about his soldiers. The fate of other aristocrats doesn't concern him either, but he's very proud that he's BlueBlood and he believes that common people are impossible to improve, comparing them to animals. He killed a mayor and nearly [[WouldHurtAChild shot a child]] child for singing ''Marseillaise'' upon his arrival to his village, and later he keeps gleefully [[OffWithHisHead killing off villagers with his personal guillotine]] guillotine one after another for no bigger offence than [[DisproportionateRetribution selling old bread]].bread. He never shows any remorse for his evil deeds.
* CrossoverShip: The fandom has taken to pairing Major Edrington with [[Literature/{{Sharpe}} Richard Sharpe]] [[CrackPairing despite]] despite or [[SlapSlapKiss perhaps]] ''[[BelligerentSexualTension because]]'' perhaps ''because'' he's exactly the kind of officer Sharpe would despise if he was incompetent. Major Edrington isn't, so he's precisely the officer [[FridgeBrilliance Sharpe wishes he was.]]
7th Nov '15 11:48:08 PM maxwellsilver
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Lieutenant'' is told from Bush's point of view and the end focuses on Hornblower's life ashore after the Peace of Amiens, but barely touches on Bush's life with his sisters in the country.
31st Mar '15 3:38:38 PM XFllo
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* {{Narm}}: Almost anything involving Archie Kennedy. Despite the above comment on the Broken Base, not all the dislike is for his not being in the books.

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* {{Narm}}: Almost anything involving Archie Kennedy. Despite {{Narm}}:
** "I was just thinking of
the above comment on distances we travel... yet how far we still have to sail as men." Possibly the Broken Base, not all the dislike is for his not being most mocked line in the books.series. Plus Horatio is hugging a rope while saying that.
** The slow-motion SayMyName "'''BUUUNTIIING!!!'''" that Horatio yells out while chasing the surly seaman of the week through the woods.
12th Feb '15 10:36:41 AM maxwellsilver
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Hornblower and the stacks of (likely counterfeit) banknotes he finds in a secret compartment of an Irish rebel's sea chest. He ultimately puts them back and has the chest thrown overboard.
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