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* {{Applicability}}: Not quite the film, but more specifically a song from it; "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" can be seen as a painfully accurate metaphor for depression.
* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A relatively mild example of this, but is still often viewed upon by many as an overly kid-friendly run-of-the-mill Western with more familiar gags and puns than one cares to count. [[EverythingsBetterWithCows The fact that the main heroes happen to be cows]] [[SubvertedTrope likely didn't intrigue viewers either]].
* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A relatively mild example of this, but is still often viewed upon by many as an overly kid-friendly run-of-the-mill Western with more familiar gags and puns than one cares to count. [[EverythingsBetterWithCows The fact that the main heroes happen to be cows]] [[SubvertedTrope likely didn't intrigue viewers either]].
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* {{Applicability}}: Not quite the whole film, but more specifically a the song from it; "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" can be seen as a painfully accurate metaphor for depression.
* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A relatively mild example of this, butis it's still often viewed upon by many as an overly kid-friendly run-of-the-mill Western with more familiar gags and puns than one cares to count. [[EverythingsBetterWithCows The fact that the main heroes happen to be cows]] [[SubvertedTrope likely didn't intrigue viewers either]].
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* BileFascination: A much more mild case, as it is certainly not the worst animated film out there, but its extremely poor reputation and relative obscurity in the Disney Animated Canon has attracted the attention of fans who want to see why it was accused of killing traditional animation.
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* BileFascination: A much more mild milder case, as it is certainly not the worst ''worst'' animated film out there, but its extremely poor reputation and relative obscurity in the Disney Animated Canon has attracted the attention of fans who want to see why it was accused of killing traditional animation.
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* CriticalBacklash: Despite the hate and flack, there are a sizable number of people who really like it thanks to good animation, good songs, and an enjoyable villain. There are even some people who think that while it is one of Disney's weaker films in their animated lineup, it is far from the worst animated film out there.
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* CriticalBacklash: Despite the hate and flack, flak, there are a sizable number of people who really like it thanks to good animation, good songs, and an enjoyable villain. There are even some people who think that that, while it is one of Disney's weaker films in their animated lineup, it is far from the worst animated film out there.
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* MisBlamed: ''Home on the Range'', flawed as it may be, was not responsible for Disney's decision to stop producing hand-drawn animated films, as much as it was the end result of producing a decade's worth of mediocre 2D films, which were repeatedly clobbered by CGI newcomers both financially and critically. After ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' became the studio's biggest financial bomb ever, in light of ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' all becoming the top-grossing animated films ever, Disney decided to jump on the CGI bandwagon and scrambled to finish this film as quickly as possible to do so.
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* MisBlamed: ''Home on the Range'', flawed as it may be, was not responsible for Disney's decision to stop producing hand-drawn animated films, as much as it was the end result of producing a decade's worth of mediocre 2D returns on their hand-drawn films, which were repeatedly clobbered by CGI newcomers both financially and critically. After ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' became the studio's biggest financial bomb ever, in light of ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' all becoming the top-grossing animated films ever, Disney decided to jump on the CGI bandwagon and scrambled to finish this film as quickly as possible to do so.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of complaints about pre-''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' Disney movies featuring female main characters (see above) would probably be less common if more people had more awareness of this film.
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* FnaPreferredCutContent: A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3e5-4EqN0 Deleted Scene]] showed that Slim was going to use the cows as an army in a hostile takeover plan to become the next president of the United States. This was cut because the people of Disney believed that it was too silly. However, genuine fans of the film have gone on record saying that they would've liked how this idea played out and that it would have actually been fitting, since the movie itself has a rather silly tone to it.
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* FnaPreferredCutContent: FanPreferredCutContent: A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3e5-4EqN0 Deleted Scene]] showed that Slim was going to use the cows as an army in a hostile takeover plan to become the next president of the United States. This was cut because the people of Disney believed that it was too silly. However, genuine fans of the film have gone on record saying that they would've liked how this idea played out and that it would have actually been fitting, since the movie itself has a rather silly tone to it.
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* FnaPreferredCutContent: A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3e5-4EqN0 Deleted Scene]] showed that Slim was going to use the cows as an army in a hostile takeover plan to become the next president of the United States. This was cut because the people of Disney believed that it was too silly. However, genuine fans of the film have gone on record saying that they would've liked how this idea played out and that it would have actually been fitting, since the movie itself has a rather silly tone to it.
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** Not too many people like Buck due to his selfish and egotistical personality. This is especially due to his overall pointlessness in the film's story and very lacking CharacterDevelopment.
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** When Barry and Bob are chasing after Maggie on the train and hitting on her
-->'''Maggie:''' I've got two words for you, cold shower!
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* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of complaints about pre-''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' Disney movies featuring female main characters (see above) would probably be less common if more people had more awareness of this film (or at least awareness not tied to its bad writing).
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* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of complaints about pre-''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' Disney movies featuring female main characters (see above) would probably be less common if more people had more awareness of this film (or at least awareness not tied to its bad writing).film.
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* SceneryPorn: Say whatever you want about the story or the characters, but this film has some pretty impressive scenery. The use of faceting makes for some interesting lighting choices, and the color palette is just lovely.
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* CultClassic: Despite the negative criticism it received when first appearing, over time people began to show appreciation for this movie.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The entire scene in the saloon bar.
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* CriticalBacklash: Despite the hate and flack, there are a sizable number of people who really like it.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" easily sums up so many people's feelings during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, isolating for months and keeping themselves apart from family and friends, while the disease killed millions of people and new disasters seemed to happen every other day.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches up with how so many people around the world have felt during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, isolating for months while the disease kills millions of people and disasters happen everywhere.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches easily sums up with how so many people around the world have felt people's feelings during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, isolating for months and keeping themselves apart from family and friends, while the disease kills killed millions of people and new disasters seemed to happen everywhere.every other day.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches up with how so many people around the world have felt during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, isolating for months while the disease kills so many and disasters happen everywhere.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches up with how so many people around the world have felt during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, isolating for months while the disease kills so many millions of people and disasters happen everywhere.
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* ValuesResonance: "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches up with how a large percentage of the world population has felt during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic.
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* ValuesResonance: 16 years after the film was made, "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again?" matches up with how a large percentage of so many people around the world population has have felt during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic.pandemic, isolating for months while the disease kills so many and disasters happen everywhere.
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* SceneryPorn: Say whatever you want about the story or the characters, but this film has some pretty impressive scenery. The use of faceting makes for some interesting lighting choices, and the color palette is just lovely.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Alameda Slim at one point calls Mr. Wesley "Mr. Weasely", and [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} Wesley isn't the last crook]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} who got a misnaming along those lines.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Alameda Slim at one point calls Mr. Wesley "Mr. Weasely", and [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Wesley isn't the last crook]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} who got a misnaming along those lines.]]
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* FoeYayShipping: [[InterspeciesRomance Maggie and Slim]] is the film's most popular paring.
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%%* CultClassic: Has gained a small fan following who claim it doesn't deserve half of the hate it gets.
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* FairForItsDay: This is a non-princess and non-"girly" Disney movie featuring female main protagonists, doubly so given the time it was made in (when Disney was mostly trying to appeal to boys) and the fact that gender is essentially treated as a non-issue, with the main characters allowed to get involved in slapstick and non-stereotypically feminine behaviours. Still, it contains a mildly transphobic joke.
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* TheScrappy: Not too many people like Buck due to his selfish and egotistical personality. This is especially due to his overall pointlessness in the film's story and very lacking CharacterDevelopment.
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** Not too many people like Buck due to his selfish and egotistical personality. This is especially due to his overall pointlessness in the film's story and very lacking CharacterDevelopment.
** Not too many people like Buck due to his selfish and egotistical personality. This is especially due to his overall pointlessness in the film's story and very lacking CharacterDevelopment.
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Maggie is already in Base Breaking Character.
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* TheScrappy: Not too many people like Maggie or Buck due to how selfish and egotistical they are. ''Especially'' the latter, due two his overall pointlessness and complete lack of CharacterDevelopment.
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* TheScrappy: Not too many people like Maggie or Buck due to how his selfish and egotistical they are. ''Especially'' the latter, personality. This is especially due two to his overall pointlessness in the film's story and complete lack of very lacking CharacterDevelopment.
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** Not too many people like Maggie or Buck due to how selfish and egotistical they are. ''Especially'' the latter, due two his overall pointlessness and complete lack of CharacterDevelopment.
** Alameda Slim is often considered one of the weakest Disney Villains to date, due to his incompetence and the fact that his main power is mind-control yodeling.
** Not too many people like Maggie or Buck due to how selfish and egotistical they are. ''Especially'' the latter, due two his overall pointlessness and complete lack of CharacterDevelopment.
** Alameda Slim is often considered one of the weakest Disney Villains to date, due to his incompetence and the fact that his main power is mind-control yodeling.
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** Alameda Slim is often considered one of the weakest Disney Villains to date, due to his incompetence and the fact that his main power is mind-control yodeling.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: As co-director John Sanford will gladly tell you, the film took just as much effort to make as any of Disney's other animated features and was anything but a lazy effort, despite whatever impression the films poor reputation might give you. Alan Menken is clearly giving his all in the films score on top of that.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: As co-director John Sanford will gladly tell you, the film took just as much effort to make as any of Disney's other animated features and was anything but a lazy effort, despite whatever impression the films film's poor reputation might give you. Alan Menken is clearly giving his all in the films score on top of that.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: As co-director John Sanford will gladly to tell you, the film took just as much effort to make as any of Disney's other animated features and was anything but a lazy effort, despite whatever impression the films poor reputation might give you. Alan Menken is clearly giving his all in the films score on top of that.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: As co-director John Sanford will gladly to tell you, the film took just as much effort to make as any of Disney's other animated features and was anything but a lazy effort, despite whatever impression the films poor reputation might give you. Alan Menken is clearly giving his all in the films score on top of that.
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* TheScrappy: [[ThoseTwoGuys Barry and Bob]] are not well-liked, even among fans, due to their pointless and idiotic nature.
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**Alameda Slim is often considered one of the weakest Disney Villains to date, due to his incompetence and the fact that his main power is mind-control yodeling.
**[[ThoseTwoGuys Barry and Bob]] are not well-liked, even among fans, due to their pointless and idiotic nature.
**Not too many people like Maggie or Buck due to how selfish and egotistical they are. ''Especially'' the latter, due two his overall pointlessness and complete lack of CharacterDevelopment.
**Alameda Slim is often considered one of the weakest Disney Villains to date, due to his incompetence and the fact that his main power is mind-control yodeling.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Creator/RandyQuaid's role as the evil outlaw Alameda Slim can also be a bit more uncomfortable due to the many lawsuits and criminal problems Quaid and his wife Evi have recently faced.
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* CriticalDissonance: While it is one of the most reviled films among Disney fans, it's critical reception is rather [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed]]. On Website/RottenTomatoes, it is only #6 of the lowest scoring films in the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, scoring higher than other Disney films that have '''''much''''' larger fanbases, such as ''WesternAnimation/RobinHood'', ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', and ''WesternAnimation/BrotherBear''.
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* CriticalDissonance: While it is one of the most reviled films among Disney fans, it's its critical reception is rather [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed]]. On Website/RottenTomatoes, it is only #6 of the lowest scoring films in the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, scoring higher than other Disney films that have '''''much''''' larger fanbases, such as ''WesternAnimation/RobinHood'', ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', and ''WesternAnimation/BrotherBear''.