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Not Ymmv. Although Strawman Has A Point probably fits this trope but I’m unsure for now?
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure Yuu into a fight, he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo, he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is as a [[BadassBoast badass boast]].
** He’s also depicted as a [[SoreLoser sore loser]] for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but he only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparring matches.
** He’s also depicted as a [[SoreLoser sore loser]] for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but he only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparring matches.
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'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
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'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!warfare?!
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* CompleteMonster: Yagi kidnaps the hero's {{love interest}} Mai, force-feeds her the drug True to get her into a state of severe addiction, and ties her up in a place where three of his henchmen might possibly rape her. He has the whole thing video-recorded and broadcast over the Internet via his cellular phone as a way to keep Yuu from fighting back while Yagi's thugs beat him to a pulp. Even his boss [[SmugSnake King]] doesn't sink this low.
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'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
** Yoshii.
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshii lets him fight Iwado... Fully knowing what happens when one fights a Judoka.
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitly called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before when taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
** Yoshii.
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshii lets him fight Iwado... Fully knowing what happens when one fights a Judoka.
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitly called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before when taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].
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'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
** Yoshii.
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshii lets him fight Iwado... Fully knowing what happens when one fights a Judoka.
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitly called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before when taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].warfare?!
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
** Yoshii.
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshii lets him fight Iwado... Fully knowing what happens when one fights a Judoka.
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitly called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before when taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].
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*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
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*** His backstory and thoughts make him even scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].fighter]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].
** Ryuu and Tetsu are UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts practitioners who left their gym (or were expelled, it's unclear) because they just loved to ''break'' their opponents, not just defeat them. What this means is shown ''very'' clearly when [[FeelNoPain Katou]] tries to muscle in King's operation and Ryuu [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats him until he starts crying for help-and then strangles him]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Shougo a BloodKnight or a DirtyCoward. The reason his fellow Hakusen students don’t like him is that he keeps turning sparring matches into street brawls. This is the reason he doesn’t do tournament is he finds the rules to restricting. He became TheResenter and joined King when he couldn’t defeat Yuu. All in all Shougo only seems to enjoy fighting when he has the advantage, something King’s CoDragons, eventually called him out on when he kept procrastinating dealing with Yuu.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Shougo a BloodKnight [[BloodKnight blood knight]] or a DirtyCoward. The reason his [[DirtyCoward dirty coward]]? His fellow Hakusen students don’t like him is that because he keeps turning sparring matches into street brawls. This is the reason he doesn’t do tournament is tournament, as he finds the rules to be restricting. He became TheResenter [[TheResenter the resenter]] and joined King when he couldn’t defeat Yuu. All in all Shougo only seems to enjoy fighting when he ''he'' has the advantage, something King’s CoDragons, CoDragons eventually called him out on when he kept procrastinating on dealing with Yuu.
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* InformedWrongness: The series tried to deconstruct the ArrogantKungFuGuy trope by presenting them as [[SoreLoser sore losers]] when they get angry when they’re defeated using street fighting tactics. For example the Boxing Club members got really angry at Yuu when he knocked down Yamazaki in a boxing match by suddenly using grappling moves. Only for Nakamura to use the fact that Yuu is an amateur as an excuse. However when Yamazaki goes along with it he’s presenting as in the wrong with Shin and Nakamura telling him he pushed Yuu too far.
** There is a lot of MoralMyopia present in the series street fighters regularly skew things in their favor such as threatening to call the police, or not following the rules of sanctioned matches, but when the rules are against them they are presented as the victims.
** Basically the martial artist are treated as wrong for being angry when street fighters challenge them to martial arts matches yet don’t follow the rules of those matches.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure Yui into a fight he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is a BadassBoast.
** He’s also depicted as a SoreLoser for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparing matches.
** There is a lot of MoralMyopia present in the series street fighters regularly skew things in their favor such as threatening to call the police, or not following the rules of sanctioned matches, but when the rules are against them they are presented as the victims.
** Basically the martial artist are treated as wrong for being angry when street fighters challenge them to martial arts matches yet don’t follow the rules of those matches.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure Yui into a fight he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is a BadassBoast.
** He’s also depicted as a SoreLoser for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparing matches.
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* InformedWrongness: The series tried to deconstruct the ArrogantKungFuGuy [[ArrogantKungFuGuy arrogant kung fu guy]] trope by presenting them as [[SoreLoser sore losers]] when they get angry when they’re defeated using street fighting tactics. For example example, the Boxing Club members got really angry at Yuu when he knocked down Yamazaki in a boxing match by suddenly using grappling moves. Only for Nakamura to use the fact that Yuu is was an amateur as an excuse. However However, when Yamazaki goes along with it he’s presenting presented as being in the wrong wrong, with Shin and Nakamura telling him he pushed Yuu too far.
** There is a lot ofMoralMyopia [[MoralMyopia moral myopia]] present in the series series, as the street fighters regularly skew things in their favor such as by threatening to call the police, or not following the rules of sanctioned matches, but when the rules are against them they are presented as the victims.
** Basically the martialartist artists are treated as wrong for being angry when street fighters challenge them to martial arts matches yet don’t follow the rules of those matches.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lureYui Yuu into a fight fight, he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo dojo, he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is as a BadassBoast.[[BadassBoast badass boast]].
** He’s also depicted as aSoreLoser [[SoreLoser sore loser]] for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but he only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparing sparring matches.
** There is a lot of
** Basically the martial
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure
** He’s also depicted as a
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*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even more scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even more scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
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*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely explicitly called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before when taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him evenmore scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him him, he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even
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** Yoshii with a knife. For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
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** Yoshii.
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshiiwith lets him fight Iwado... Fully knowing what happens when one fights a knife. Judoka.
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm''snarl.snarl.
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even more scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
*** He's first seen reacting to Yuu beating up one of his guys by calling up Iwado. One of the Setashou delinquents takes issue at it, so Yoshii
*** For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm''
*** His backstory and thoughts make him even more scarier by revealing there's very little difference between him and Yuu. Just like him he was a heavily depressed bullying victim who one day found a way to react and fight for his place... [[FridgeHorror Meaning that Yuu could have come out just like Yoshii in slightly different circumstances, only being a better fighter]].
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* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
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* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.darkside.
** Yoshii with a knife. For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
** Yoshii with a knife. For a while he just seemed a NonActionBigBad, then we find out how he got in power at Setashou: after [[OneManArmy Taka took down a group of third years]] that had been bullying him and a then-harmless Yoshii, Yoshii grabbed a knife and [[KickThemWhileTheyreDown did something horrible to them]], claimed to have done everything by himself, and ''got away with it by having been attacked first''. [[FromNobodyToNightmare Thus Yoshii the loser suddenly became the most feared guy in his school]], with only Taka, who considers himself in debt to him for taking the fall of beating up the upperclassmen, knowing what actually happened.
*** Right before his fight with Izawa we have a description of the three types of knife fighters, with the third, the metodic one that tries to cut you in the arms and let you bleed and tire before moving in for the kill, being explicitely called the most dangerous. The narration follows it up by saying that ''Yoshii is doing just that''. And this time he's not wearing the SlasherSmile he had before taking out the upperclassmen, but a ''calm'' snarl.
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Because of the gruesome fights
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'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!warfare?!
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
* NightmareFuel: Brutal streetfights and when Yuu Kamishiro snaps to his darkside.
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* {{Narm}}: [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/holyland/v07/c063/17.html My God!]]
** A ''remarkably'' JustForFun/{{egregious}} instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla warfare!]]
-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
** A ''remarkably'' JustForFun/{{egregious}} instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla warfare!]]
-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
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* {{Narm}}: [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/holyland/v07/c063/17.html My God!]]
**A ''remarkably'' JustForFun/{{egregious}} egregious instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going touse- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html use-- gorilla warfare!]]
-->'''Assortedwarfare!\\
'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
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-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going to
-->'''Assorted
'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Shougo a BloodKnight or a DirtyCoward. The reason his fellow Hakusen students don’t like him is that he keeps turning sparring matches into street brawls. This is the reason he doesn’t do tournament is he finds the rules to restricting. He became TheResenter and joined King when he couldn’t defeat Yuu. All in all Shougo only seems to enjoy fighting when he has the advantage, something King’s CoDragons, eventually called him out on when he kept procrastinating dealing with Yuu.
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* InformedWrongness: The series tried to deconstruct the ArrogantKungFuGuy trope by presenting them as [[SoreLoser sore losers]] when they get angry when they’re defeated using street fighting tactics. For example the Boxing Club members got really angry at Yuu when he knocked down Yamazaki in a boxing match by suddenly using grappling moves. Only for Nakamura to use the fact that Yuu is an amateur as an excuse. However when Yamazaki goes along with it he’s presenting as in the wrong with Shin and Nakamura telling him he pushed Yuu too far.
** There is a lot of MoralMyopia present in the series street fighters regularly skew things in their favor such as threatening to call the police, or not following the rules of sanctioned matches, but when the rules are against them they are presented as the victims.
** Basically the martial artist are treated as wrong for being angry when street fighters challenge them to martial arts matches yet don’t follow the rules of those matches.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure Yui into a fight he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is a BadassBoast.
** He’s also depicted as a SoreLoser for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparing matches.
** There is a lot of MoralMyopia present in the series street fighters regularly skew things in their favor such as threatening to call the police, or not following the rules of sanctioned matches, but when the rules are against them they are presented as the victims.
** Basically the martial artist are treated as wrong for being angry when street fighters challenge them to martial arts matches yet don’t follow the rules of those matches.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Shougo’s senpai in Hakusenkai. While it was wrong to lure Yui into a fight he is right that Shougo is given far too much leeway. Not only does he not follow the rules of the dojo he doesn’t even bother to come. All he seems to use Hakusenkai for is a BadassBoast.
** He’s also depicted as a SoreLoser for making up rules that give him the advantage when sparing with Shougo, but only started doing that when Shougo began using street fighting tactics in regular sparing matches.
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** A ''remarkably'' {{egregious}} instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
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** A ''remarkably'' {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
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* CompleteMonster: Yagi, through and through. [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon He kidnaps Mai, force-feeds her the drug True to get her into a state of severe addiction, and ties her up in a place where three of his henchmen might possibly rape her]], ''and'' he's got the whole thing being video-recorded and broadcast over the Internet via his cellular phone as a way to keep Yuu from fighting back while Yagi's thugs beat him to a pulp]]. Even his boss [[BigBad King]], while a SmugSnake, doesn't sink ''this'' low.
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* CompleteMonster: Yagi, through and through. [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon He Yagi kidnaps the hero's {{love interest}} Mai, force-feeds her the drug True to get her into a state of severe addiction, and ties her up in a place where three of his henchmen might possibly rape her]], ''and'' he's got her. He has the whole thing being video-recorded and broadcast over the Internet via his cellular phone as a way to keep Yuu from fighting back while Yagi's thugs beat him to a pulp]]. pulp. Even his boss [[BigBad King]], while a SmugSnake, [[SmugSnake King]] doesn't sink ''this'' this low.
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** Ryuu, King's sadistic and psychotic MMA henchman, is also this. It's no coincidence that he's the one who pairs up with Yagi and concocts the Mai kidnap-scheme with him.
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** It may only be a coincidence, but to this troper Yagi is very similar to Jagi, the notorious {{Complete Monster}} villain of {{Fist Of The North Star}}. Their personalities are similar, as is their status as underlings to the {{Big Bad}} of their series (King and Raoh, respectively). Even their names resemble each other. Both of them also ultimately turn out to be abject cowards who end up begging for mercy before their destruction.
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-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
* {{Only Sane Man}}: Tetsu, King's other MMA henchman. While also violent, he's the sane and level-headed one of the two. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/holyland/v16/c155/11.html He even calls Ryuu out on the latter's sadism and unprofessionalism.]]
* {{Only Sane Man}}: Tetsu, King's other MMA henchman. While also violent, he's the sane and level-headed one of the two. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/holyland/v16/c155/11.html He even calls Ryuu out on the latter's sadism and unprofessionalism.]]
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-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
* {{Only Sane Man}}: Tetsu, King's other MMA henchman. While also violent, he's the sane and level-headed one of the two. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/holyland/v16/c155/11.html He even calls Ryuu out on the latter's sadism and unprofessionalism.]]warfare?!
* {{Only Sane Man}}: Tetsu, King's other MMA henchman. While also violent, he's the sane and level-headed one of the two. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/holyland/v16/c155/11.html He even calls Ryuu out on the latter's sadism and unprofessionalism.]]
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** Ryuu, King's sadistic and psychotic MMA henchman, is also this. It's no coincidence that he's the one who pairs up with Yagi and concocts the Mai kidnap-scheme with him.
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* {{Only Sane Man}}: Tetsu, King's other MMA henchman. While also violent, he's the sane and level-headed one of the two. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/holyland/v16/c155/11.html He even calls Ryuu out on the latter's sadism and unprofessionalism.]]
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** It may only be a coincidence, but to this troper Yagi is very similar to Jagi, the notorious {{Complete Monster}} villain of {{Fist Of The North Star}}. Their personalities are similar, as is their status as underlings to the {{Big Bad}} of their series (King and Raoh, respectively). Even their names resemble each other. Both of them also ultimately turn out to abject cowards who end up begging for mercy before their destruction.
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** It may only be a coincidence, but to this troper Yagi is very similar to Jagi, the notorious {{Complete Monster}} villain of {{Fist Of The North Star}}. Their personalities are similar, as is their status as underlings to the {{Big Bad}} of their series (King and Raoh, respectively). Even their names resemble each other. Both of them also ultimately turn out to be abject cowards who end up begging for mercy before their destruction.
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** It may only be a coincidence, but to this troper Yagi is very similar to Jagi, the notorious {{Complete Monster}} villain of {{Fist Of The North Star}}. Their personalities are similar, as is their status as underlings to the {{Big Bad}} of their series (King and Raoh, respectively). Even their names resemble each other. Both of them also ultimately turn out to abject cowards who end up begging for mercy before their destruction.
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* CompleteMonster: Yagi, through and through. [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon He kidnaps Mai, force-feeds her the drug True to get her into a state of severe addiction, and ties her up in a place where three of his henchmen might possibly rape her]], ''and'' he's got the whole thing being video-recorded and broadcast over the Internet via his cellular phone as a way to keep Yuu from fighting back while Yagi's thugs beat him to a pulp]]. Even his boss [[BigBad King]], while a SmugSnake, doesn't sink ''this'' low.
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** A ''remarkably'' {{egregious}} RougeAnglesOfSatin:
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** A ''remarkably'' {{egregious}} instance of RougeAnglesOfSatin:
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** "That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla warfare!]]"
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-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorillawarfare!]]"warfare!]]
-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
-->'''Masaki:''' That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla
-->'''Assorted Thugs:''' Gorilla warfare?!
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* {{Narm}}: [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/holyland/v07/c063/17.html My God!]]
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* {{Narm}}: [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/holyland/v07/c063/17.html My God!]]God!]]
** "That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla warfare!]]"
** "That's why we're going to use- [[http://www.mangahere.com/manga/holyland/v12/c151/22.html gorilla warfare!]]"
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* HoYay: Yuu and Izawa have a very ... ''intense'' relationship. Also between Yuu and Shin, especially in the live-action drama. Lampshaded by Shin: "Hey, I'm not that kind of guy!"
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Missed Moment Of Awesome (now Offscreen Moment Of Awesome) is not \"they SHOULD have done it, it\'d be cool.\" It\'s \"they DID do it, and you never got to see it.\"
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Little coverage of non-Japanese fighting styles, not even the more famous ones like MMA core disciplines Muay Thai and BJJ.
