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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]], a recurring character in the ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII III]]'' [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity era]], is among its most depraved. Love [[FauxAffablyEvil presents himself]] as a charismatic, if eccentric, powerful businessman, arranging a gang war between the Yakuza and the Cartel just to lower property values. In this game it's revealed he is a self-indulgent cannibal, and implied sexual deviant. Aligning himself with the Leone crime family, Love runs in the race for mayor, sends [[PlayerCharacter Toni Cipriani]] out to murder his rival's campaigners and collect more bodies to feed on. Losing his fortune and campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, starting by murdering his mentor, real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans, later cannibalizing the body; and killing many people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district.
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]], a recurring character in the ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII III]]'' [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity era]], is among its most depraved. Love [[FauxAffablyEvil presents himself]] as a charismatic, if eccentric, powerful businessman, arranging a [[MobWar gang war war]] between the Yakuza and the Cartel just to lower property values. In this game it's revealed he is a self-indulgent cannibal, and implied sexual deviant. Aligning himself with the Leone crime family, Love runs in the race for mayor, sends [[PlayerCharacter protagonist Toni Cipriani]] Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners and collect more bodies to feed on. Losing his fortune and campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, starting by murdering his mentor, real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans, later cannibalizing the body; and killing many people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district.
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* CatharsisFactor: After [[spoiler:Vincenzo Cilli betrays you]], killing them is very much worth it.
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* GameBreakingBug: Using cheats can possibly render the penultimate mission unwinnable, a concious choice by the developers.
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* GameBreakingBug: Using cheats can possibly render the penultimate mission unwinnable, a concious conscious choice by the developers.
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** The mission "Shoreside Redemption" isn't very popular either. The mission itself is fairly standard, if a bit difficult. You are tasked with escorting a newly acquitted Salvatore to the courthouse in a police car while goons try to ram the prisoner transport van off the road. What makes this mission so notorious is the fact that using cheats can make this mission unwinnable, since Rockstar implemented a unique fail scenario for players trying to take the easy way.
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** The mission "Shoreside "The Shoreside Redemption" isn't very popular either. The mission itself is fairly standard, if a bit difficult. You are tasked with escorting a newly acquitted Salvatore to the courthouse in a police car while goons try to ram the prisoner transport van off the road. What makes this mission so notorious is the fact that using cheats can make this mission unwinnable, since Rockstar implemented a unique fail scenario for players trying to take the easy way.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
** Chronologically, Salvatore Leone's fate has been sealed when his uncle says "Every dog has its day." [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Yeah, about that...]]
** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
** Chronologically, Salvatore Leone's fate has been sealed when his uncle says "Every dog has its day." [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Yeah, about that...]]
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** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
**HarsherInHindsight: Chronologically, Salvatore Leone's fate has been sealed when his uncle says "Every dog has its day." [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Yeah, about that...]]
** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
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** Toni's mother is also not very popular in this installment, mostly because of how ungrateful she is towards his son. At one point of the story, she sends out hitmen in an attempt to kill him.
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** Toni's mother is also not very popular in this installment, mostly because of how ungrateful she is towards his her son. At one point of the story, she sends out hitmen in an attempt to kill him.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Donald Love is far more divisive in this game than he was in ''III''. Some fans like his more flamboyant and outrageous character in this game and thought it gave him more of a personality, while others believe Love was completely ruined and preferred when he was a more suave and mysterious character.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Donald Love didn't have much CharacterDevelopment in ''III'' and ''Vice City'', but he's really weird in this game.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Donald Love didn't have much CharacterDevelopment in ''III'' and ''Vice City'', but he's really weird in this game. It raises a lot of questions on the motives he had in ''III'' and how well he was hiding his weirdness.
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* NightmareFuel: Several thing that makes Toni Cipriani pure Nightmare Fuel. This is evident in the mission "Dead Meat", where he kills a man (Giovanni Casa) with an ax and dismembered him, and takes over his remains to Casa’s own deli for his remains to be sold.
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* NightmareFuel: Several thing that makes Toni Cipriani pure Nightmare Fuel. This is evident in the mission "Dead Meat", where he kills a man (Giovanni Casa) with an ax and dismembered him, and takes over his remains to Casa’s [[NightmareFuel/GrandTheftAutoLibertyCityStories Has its own deli for his remains to be sold. page]].
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** With the aforementioned complaint above, there are some who says that Vinnie would have been perfect to be the BigBad considering his high rank in the Leones could make him a potential threat through a coup d'état like scenario where tries to take over the Leones family behind Toni and Salvador's back, or even betray them for the other gangs. His vendetta against Toni which was built up in the beginning of the game could also give personal stakes in the conflict, and his already LoveToHate status by the community shows he could also be a very entertaining villain.
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** With the aforementioned complaint above, there are some who says that Vinnie would have been perfect to be the BigBad considering his high rank in the Leones could make him a potential threat through a coup d'état like scenario where tries to take over the Leones family behind Toni and Salvador's Salvatore’s back, or even betray them for the other gangs. His vendetta against Toni which was built up in the beginning of the game could also give personal stakes in the conflict, and his already LoveToHate status by the community shows he could also be a very entertaining villain.
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* NightmareFuel: Several thing that makes Toni Cipriani pure Nightmare Fuel. This is evident in the mission "Dead Meat", where he kills a man with an ax and dismembered him, and takes over his remains to a butcher for his remains to be sold.
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* NightmareFuel: Several thing that makes Toni Cipriani pure Nightmare Fuel. This is evident in the mission "Dead Meat", where he kills a man (Giovanni Casa) with an ax and dismembered him, and takes over his remains to a butcher Casa’s own deli for his remains to be sold.
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* PortingDisaster: Continuing the trend of mobile ports of GTA games being inferior to console & PC counterparts, ''Liberty City Stories'' on iOS & Android is an extremely nasty port, because apart from having the same problems as the previous games, it also has very limited graphics settings & compatibility issues with some phones & tablets (particularly with Mali GPU devices), where the game refuses to work anywhere past the main menu. The fact that the port of Liberty City Stories was made by a different studio, Lucid Games, instead of the usual War Drum Studios, doesn't help. Possibly justified, considering this game was only released on the PSP & the Playstation 2 beforehand.
** The [=PS2=] version suffers from severe framerate issues. Yes, even the digital [=PS3=] version. It's playable, but notable since the PSP version came first and runs much better on a significantly weaker system.
*** There are also some bugs that were introduced to this version in the [=PS2=] port, such as when the radio station sometimes glitches out and doesn't play the music anymore. It can be remedied by either reloading the save or restarting the system. The credits sequence also glitches out.
** The [=PS2=] version suffers from severe framerate issues. Yes, even the digital [=PS3=] version. It's playable, but notable since the PSP version came first and runs much better on a significantly weaker system.
*** There are also some bugs that were introduced to this version in the [=PS2=] port, such as when the radio station sometimes glitches out and doesn't play the music anymore. It can be remedied by either reloading the save or restarting the system. The credits sequence also glitches out.
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* PortingDisaster: PortingDisaster:
** Continuing the trend of mobile ports of GTA games being inferior to console & PC counterparts, ''Liberty City Stories'' on iOS & Android is an extremely nasty port, because apart from having the same problems as the previous games, it also has very limited graphics settings & compatibility issues with some phones & tablets (particularly with Mali GPU devices), where the game refuses to work anywhere past the main menu. The fact that the port of Liberty City Stories was made by a different studio, Lucid Games, instead of the usual War Drum Studios, doesn't help. Possibly justified, considering this game was only released on the PSP & the Playstation 2 beforehand.
**The Despite running on significantly more powerful hardware than the original [=PSP=] version, the [=PS2=] version has several issues. For starters, it suffers from severe framerate issues. Yes, issues that are present even on the digital [=PS3=] version. It's playable, version, meaning they're not caused by hardware limitations, but notable since by some oddity in the PSP game itself. The console version came first and runs much better on a significantly weaker system.
*** There arealso some bugs that were introduced to this version in the [=PS2=] port, introduces new glitches, such as when the radio station sometimes glitches glitching out and doesn't play the music anymore. It can be remedied by either reloading the stopping playback until one reloads a save or restarting restarts the system. The console, and the credits sequence is also glitches out.known for glitching out. That said, these problems can be overlooked with some patience, and the port is otherwise playable.
** Continuing the trend of mobile ports of GTA games being inferior to console & PC counterparts, ''Liberty City Stories'' on iOS & Android is an extremely nasty port, because apart from having the same problems as the previous games, it also has very limited graphics settings & compatibility issues with some phones & tablets (particularly with Mali GPU devices), where the game refuses to work anywhere past the main menu. The fact that the port of Liberty City Stories was made by a different studio, Lucid Games, instead of the usual War Drum Studios, doesn't help. Possibly justified, considering this game was only released on the PSP & the Playstation 2 beforehand.
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** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it atthat]].that]].
** Chronologically, Salvatore Leone's fate has been sealed when his uncle says "Every dog has its day." [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Yeah, about that...]]
** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at
** Chronologically, Salvatore Leone's fate has been sealed when his uncle says "Every dog has its day." [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Yeah, about that...]]
*** There are also some bugs that were introduced to this version in the [=PS2=] port, such as when the radio station sometimes glitches out and doesn't play the music anymore. It can be remedied by either reloading the save or restarting the system. The credits sequence also glitches out.
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* TheScrappy: As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault her screw-ups]].
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** As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault herscrew-ups]].screw-ups]].
** Toni's mother is also not very popular in this installment, mostly because of how ungrateful she is towards his son. At one point of the story, she sends out hitmen in an attempt to kill him.
** As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault her
** Toni's mother is also not very popular in this installment, mostly because of how ungrateful she is towards his son. At one point of the story, she sends out hitmen in an attempt to kill him.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: A common complaint about the game is that Massimo Torini, the BigBad, doesn't really do that much and barely even appears.
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** A common complaint about the game is that Massimo Torini, the BigBad, doesn't really do that much and barely evenappears.appears.
** With the aforementioned complaint above, there are some who says that Vinnie would have been perfect to be the BigBad considering his high rank in the Leones could make him a potential threat through a coup d'état like scenario where tries to take over the Leones family behind Toni and Salvador's back, or even betray them for the other gangs. His vendetta against Toni which was built up in the beginning of the game could also give personal stakes in the conflict, and his already LoveToHate status by the community shows he could also be a very entertaining villain.
** A common complaint about the game is that Massimo Torini, the BigBad, doesn't really do that much and barely even
** With the aforementioned complaint above, there are some who says that Vinnie would have been perfect to be the BigBad considering his high rank in the Leones could make him a potential threat through a coup d'état like scenario where tries to take over the Leones family behind Toni and Salvador's back, or even betray them for the other gangs. His vendetta against Toni which was built up in the beginning of the game could also give personal stakes in the conflict, and his already LoveToHate status by the community shows he could also be a very entertaining villain.
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] is based on UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We'll just leave it at that]].
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** Toni Cipriani: a righteous man who delights in only committing atrocities because he just follow orders. Or he is a PsychoForHire? Toni is probably the protagonist who committed the greatest atrocities in the GTA canon, including killing a man with an ax and carrying his remains to a butcher shop. Remember, this was done intentionally and not to follow an order, not to mention several atrocities that go by Donald Love and Ned Burner's orders. While he still repents of his sins in a confessional, he never sought redemption when he bombed the area of Fort Staunton.
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** Toni Cipriani: a A righteous man who delights in only committing atrocities because he is just follow orders. following orders? Or is he is a PsychoForHire? Toni is probably the protagonist who committed the greatest atrocities in the GTA canon, including killing a man with an ax and carrying his remains to a butcher shop. Remember, this was done intentionally out of his own will and not to follow an order, not to mention several atrocities that go by under Donald Love and Ned Burner's orders. While he still repents of his sins in a confessional, he is never sought shown seeking redemption when he bombed the area of Fort Staunton.
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]], introduced in ''Grand Theft Auto III'' and having a cameo in ''Vice City'', at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between the Yakuza and the Cartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with the Leone crime family, Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's worst crime, however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]], introduced a recurring character in ''Grand Theft Auto III'' and having a cameo in ''Vice City'', at first seems fairly standard for the series, ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII III]]'' [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity era]], is among its most depraved. Love [[FauxAffablyEvil presents himself]] as a charismatic, if eccentric, powerful businessman, arranging a gang war between the Yakuza and the Cartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in In this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses game it's revealed he is a self-indulgent cannibal, and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. implied sexual deviant. Aligning himself with the Leone crime family, Love runs in the race for mayor, sending sends [[PlayerCharacter Toni Cipriani Cipriani]] out to murder his rival's campaigners. campaigners and collect more bodies to feed on. Losing his fortune in his failed and campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with starting by murdering his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], mentor, real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's worst crime, however, is masterminding plans, later cannibalizing the deaths of thousands of body; and killing many people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].district.
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a Crapsack World populated with gangsters, serial killers, and psychopaths. Introduced in ''Grand Theft Auto III'', and having a cameo in ''Vice City'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between the {{Yakuza}} and TheCartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's worst crime, however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a Crapsack World populated with gangsters, serial killers, and psychopaths. Introduced Love]], introduced in ''Grand Theft Auto III'', III'' and having a cameo in ''Vice City'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between the {{Yakuza}} Yakuza and TheCartel the Cartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], family, Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's worst crime, however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a CrapsackWorld populated with gangsters, [[SerialKiller serial killers]], and [[AxCrazy psychopaths]]. Introduced in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', and having a cameo in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between the {{Yakuza}} and TheCartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]], however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a CrapsackWorld Crapsack World populated with gangsters, [[SerialKiller serial killers]], killers, and [[AxCrazy psychopaths]]. psychopaths. Introduced in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', ''Grand Theft Auto III'', and having a cameo in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity'', ''Vice City'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between the {{Yakuza}} and TheCartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]], crime, however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* GameBreaker: [[ItMakesSenseInContext Selling scooters]]. There's a bike-selling minigame in the middle island, and once you've sold 10 of each 4 bike variant[[note]]They won't respawn infinitely before it's beaten once[[/note]], you can replay the mission to sell infinite amounts of any bike. The "Faggio" is easily sold by driving around in small circles. Each 5 sold gives you 2500$ ''in addition to the previous reward''. Repeat this long enough and eventually you'll start earning ridiculous amounts of money. It's even easier on the PSP, since you can just put the system in sleep mode if you get tired and continue later.
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** The PS2 version suffers from severe framerate issues. Yes, even the digital PS3 version. It's playable, but notable since the PSP version came first and runs much better on a significantly weaker system.
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* ThatOneSidequest: The game ramps up the difficulty for obtaining some of the hidden packages to an almost insane level. One hidden package is located on top of a gas station roof in Portland is considered particularly difficult to reach, and even GuideDangIt assistance is unhelpful. Another is located on a steal beam supporting the suspension bridge, only reachable by a perfectly-time motorcycle jump.
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* ThatOneSidequest: The game ramps up the difficulty for obtaining some of the hidden packages to an almost insane level. One hidden package is located on top of a gas station roof in Portland is considered particularly difficult to reach, and even GuideDangIt assistance is unhelpful. Another is located on a steal steel beam supporting the suspension bridge, only reachable by a perfectly-time perfectly-timed motorcycle jump.
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* TheScrappy:
** Ma Cipriani, Toni's domestic mother is this to some fans. Mostly in the early of game berating Toni for not being fearless like his father even though he killed countless enemies to accomplish goals. Her scrappiness reaches to [[UpToEleven extreme levels]] when she decides to call hit on her own son wanting Toni to die like "real man". On bright side, when Toni becames made man she calls hit off and she is never seen nor heard ever again.
** Vincenzo, who is heavily implied to be GreenEyedMonster. At first, it's ambiguous whether he really set Toni up to be arrested by police or not, causing Toni to be pissed off at him and crushed his car. Then, because of this, he tried to kill Toni. He failed.
** As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault her screw-ups]].
** Ma Cipriani, Toni's domestic mother is this to some fans. Mostly in the early of game berating Toni for not being fearless like his father even though he killed countless enemies to accomplish goals. Her scrappiness reaches to [[UpToEleven extreme levels]] when she decides to call hit on her own son wanting Toni to die like "real man". On bright side, when Toni becames made man she calls hit off and she is never seen nor heard ever again.
** Vincenzo, who is heavily implied to be GreenEyedMonster. At first, it's ambiguous whether he really set Toni up to be arrested by police or not, causing Toni to be pissed off at him and crushed his car. Then, because of this, he tried to kill Toni. He failed.
** As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault her screw-ups]].
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** Ma Cipriani, Toni's domestic mother is this to some fans. Mostly in the early of game berating Toni for not being fearless like his father even though he killed countless enemies to accomplish goals. Her scrappiness reaches to [[UpToEleven extreme levels]] when she decides to call hit on her own son wanting Toni to die like "real man". On bright side, when Toni becames made man she calls hit off and she is never seen nor heard ever again.
** Vincenzo, who is heavily implied to be GreenEyedMonster. At first, it's ambiguous whether he really set Toni up to be arrested by police or not, causing Toni to be pissed off at him and crushed his car. Then, because of this, he tried to kill Toni. He failed.
**TheScrappy: As if she wasn't bad enough in GTA III, Maria is worse in this game. Some of Toni's problems are because of [[NeverMyFault her screw-ups]].
** Ma Cipriani, Toni's domestic mother is this to some fans. Mostly in the early of game berating Toni for not being fearless like his father even though he killed countless enemies to accomplish goals. Her scrappiness reaches to [[UpToEleven extreme levels]] when she decides to call hit on her own son wanting Toni to die like "real man". On bright side, when Toni becames made man she calls hit off and she is never seen nor heard ever again.
** Vincenzo, who is heavily implied to be GreenEyedMonster. At first, it's ambiguous whether he really set Toni up to be arrested by police or not, causing Toni to be pissed off at him and crushed his car. Then, because of this, he tried to kill Toni. He failed.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Paulie Sindacco intersects the horizon with the attempted murder of Salvatore, sending his henchmen to take him to the crusher.
** Toni's mother has probably crossed the line with the attempted murder of her own son for not being "man enough".
** If there was a point where Donald Love had crossed the line, it was when he planned and executed the bombing of the Fort Staunton city district, killing potentially ''thousands'' of people, just so he can earn a buck over its redevelopment.
** Toni's mother has probably crossed the line with the attempted murder of her own son for not being "man enough".
** If there was a point where Donald Love had crossed the line, it was when he planned and executed the bombing of the Fort Staunton city district, killing potentially ''thousands'' of people, just so he can earn a buck over its redevelopment.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Paulie Sindacco intersects the horizon with the attempted murder of Salvatore, sending his henchmen to take him to the crusher.
** Toni's mother has probably crossed the line with the attempted murder of her own son for not being "man enough".
** If there was a point where Donald Love had crossed the line, it was when he planned and executed the bombing of the Fort Staunton city district, killing potentially ''thousands'' of people, just so he can earn a buck over its redevelopment.[[MoralEventHorizon/GrandTheftAuto See here.]]
** Toni's mother has probably crossed the line with the attempted murder of her own son for not being "man enough".
** If there was a point where Donald Love had crossed the line, it was when he planned and executed the bombing of the Fort Staunton city district, killing potentially ''thousands'' of people, just so he can earn a buck over its redevelopment.
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a CrapsackWorld populated with gangsters, [[SerialKiller serial killers]], and [[AxCrazy psychopaths]]. Introduced in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', and having a cameo in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between TheYakuza and TheCartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]], however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Love]] somehow manages to reach a special level of evil despite living in a CrapsackWorld populated with gangsters, [[SerialKiller serial killers]], and [[AxCrazy psychopaths]]. Introduced in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', and having a cameo in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity'', Love at first seems fairly standard for the series, arranging a gang war between TheYakuza the {{Yakuza}} and TheCartel just to lower property values. Though, at the time it was hinted he had [[ImAHumanitarian more sinister appetites]]. This is eventually confirmed in this game, where he's shown feasting on corpses and sending Toni Cipriani to collect bodies for him to devour. Aligning himself with [[TheMafia the Leone crime family]], Love runs in the race for mayor, sending Toni Cipriani out to murder his rival's campaigners. Losing his fortune in his failed campaign, Love makes plans to regain his fortune, with his first step being to [[BastardUnderstudy murder his mentor]], real-estate tycoon Avery Carrington, in order to steal his city development plans. He then has Toni recover Carrington's body to cannibalize later. Love's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]], however, is masterminding the deaths of thousands of people through the bombing of the heavily-populated Fort Staunton city district, just so he can make money off of redeveloping the district. A thoroughly depraved man, Love would stoop to any low imaginable to [[{{Greed}} fill his pockets]] or [[ItsAllAboutMe glorify his ego]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Donald Love's ridiculous mayoral campaign became is a lot funnier now that [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump the man he's based on]] has been elected President of the United States.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Donald Love's ridiculous mayoral campaign became is a lot funnier now that [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump the man he's based on]] has been elected President of the United States.
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* JerkassWoobie: Salvatore Leone.Leone is a paranoid wreck of a Mafia Don in a strained relationship with his wife who later is barely rescued from an assassination attempt involving the crusher in the junkyard. He considers Toni to be the only person he can count on and even then his paranoia drives him to pull a gun on him before putting it down shocked by his own actions.
** Toni Cipriani too when you consider the verbal abuse he gets from his [[AbusiveParents mother]] and his [[AxCrazy extreme]] [[WellDoneSonGuy reactions]]. Not to mention, in the game's backstory Toni was a high-ranking member of the Leone Family until he was forced to go into hiding in another country after performing a hit on a high-profile rival on Salvatore's orders. He returns to Liberty City only to find himself stripped of his rank and forced to work for [[{{Jerkass}} Vincenzo Cilli]] who constantly disrespects him and has him perform increasingly dangerous jobs.
** Toni Cipriani too when you consider the verbal abuse he gets from his [[AbusiveParents mother]] and his [[AxCrazy extreme]] [[WellDoneSonGuy reactions]]. Not to mention, in the game's backstory Toni was a high-ranking member of the Leone Family until he was forced to go into hiding in another country after performing a hit on a high-profile rival on Salvatore's orders. He returns to Liberty City only to find himself stripped of his rank and forced to work for [[{{Jerkass}} Vincenzo Cilli]] who constantly disrespects him and has him perform increasingly dangerous jobs.
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** The mission "Shoreside Redemption" isn't very popular either. The mission itself is fairly standard, if a bit difficult. You are tasked with escorting a newly aqquitted Salvatore to the courthouse in a police car while goons try to ram the prisoner transport van off the road. What makes this mission so notorious is the fact that using cheats can make this mission unwinnable, since Rockstar implemented a unique fail scenario for players trying to take the easy way.
** "False Idols" is another one. You have to locate and kill three different characters, (one of them in a ''helicopter'') before any of them reach their destination. What makes this one especially hard is that all three of them come from different islands, and killing them all requires memorising their routes, not to mention the fact that one enemy is in a bulletproof car, which forces you to waste precious time trying to ram the car off the road.
** "False Idols" is another one. You have to locate and kill three different characters, (one of them in a ''helicopter'') before any of them reach their destination. What makes this one especially hard is that all three of them come from different islands, and killing them all requires memorising their routes, not to mention the fact that one enemy is in a bulletproof car, which forces you to waste precious time trying to ram the car off the road.
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** The mission "Shoreside Redemption" isn't very popular either. The mission itself is fairly standard, if a bit difficult. You are tasked with escorting a newly aqquitted acquitted Salvatore to the courthouse in a police car while goons try to ram the prisoner transport van off the road. What makes this mission so notorious is the fact that using cheats can make this mission unwinnable, since Rockstar implemented a unique fail scenario for players trying to take the easy way.
** "False Idols" is another one. You have to locate and kill three different characters, (one of them in a ''helicopter'') before any of them reach their destination. What makes this one especially hard is that all three of them come from different islands, and killing them all requiresmemorising memorizing their routes, not to mention the fact that one enemy is in a bulletproof car, which forces you to waste precious time trying to ram the car off the road.
** "False Idols" is another one. You have to locate and kill three different characters, (one of them in a ''helicopter'') before any of them reach their destination. What makes this one especially hard is that all three of them come from different islands, and killing them all requires
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** The PS2 version suffers from severe framerate issues. Yes, even the digital PS3 version. It's playable, but notable since the PSP version came first and runs much better on a significantly weaker system.
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* ThatOneSidequest: The game ramps up the difficulty for obtaining some of the hidden packages to an almost insane level. A hidden package located on top of a gas station roof in Portland is considered particularly difficult to reach, and even GuideDangIt assistance is unhelpful.
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* ThatOneSidequest: The game ramps up the difficulty for obtaining some of the hidden packages to an almost insane level. A One hidden package is located on top of a gas station roof in Portland is considered particularly difficult to reach, and even GuideDangIt assistance is unhelpful.unhelpful. Another is located on a steal beam supporting the suspension bridge, only reachable by a perfectly-time motorcycle jump.