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** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], potentially [[AmbiguousDisorder a bit nutty]], and have loose moral standards... their main objective isn't to commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz... and anyone who ''looks'' like a clown... where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.

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** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], potentially [[AmbiguousDisorder a [[DiagnosedByTheAudience bit nutty]], and have loose moral standards... their main objective isn't to commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom who are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz... and anyone who ''looks'' like a clown... where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.
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** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], potentially [[AmbiguousDisorder a bit nutty]], and have loose moral standards...their main objective isn't to commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz..and anyone who ''looks'' like a clown...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.

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** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], potentially [[AmbiguousDisorder a bit nutty]], and have loose moral standards... their main objective isn't to commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz..Jokerz... and anyone who ''looks'' like a clown...clown... where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.
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* GoddamnBats: ''[[AccidentalPun No pun intended]]''. The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.

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* GoddamnBats: ''[[AccidentalPun No pun intended]]''. intended.]]'' The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking nutcases who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they zealous vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking nutcases who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they zealous vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's whose hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?
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** In the end, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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** In the end, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.given them every reason to band together and take charge when he won't.
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** This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster.

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** This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, it ''especially'' since he's only out at night, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster.
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* CompleteMonster: Needless to say, the Jokerz only exist for one reason; to cause havoc and murder innocent people to honor the Joker. Nothing good could ever come of them, ''ever''.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified given their violent nature, there is a case that can be made for them. Consider the following:

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified given their violent nature, there is a case that can be made for them. Consider the following:



** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.

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** While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], potentially [[AmbiguousDisorder a bit nutty]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way main objective isn't to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...Jokerz..and anyone who ''looks'' like a clown...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Regarding the story of how the Bats and Jokerz came to be? ''Batman himself''. The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Regarding the story of how the Bats and Jokerz came to be? ''Batman himself''. The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider justified given their violent nature, there is a case that can be made for them. Consider the following: following:
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This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. lackluster.
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The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. decision.
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While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions. At this point,
** In the end,
the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* GoddamnBats: The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.

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* GoddamnBats: ''[[AccidentalPun No pun intended]]''. The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Regarding the story of how the Bats and Jokerz came to be? ''Batman himself''. The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking nutcases who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking nutcases who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they zealous vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?



* CompleteMonster: Needless to say, the Jokerz only exist for one reason; to cause havoc and crime to honor the Joker. Nothing good could ever come of them. ''Ever''.

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* CompleteMonster: Needless to say, the Jokerz only exist for one reason; to cause havoc and crime murder innocent people to honor the Joker. Nothing good could ever come of them. ''Ever''.them, ''ever''.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz.Jokerz...where as the Jokerz release a gas that just straight-up kills millions. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by bats in an attempt to take out the Jokerz]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by bats in an attempt to take out the Jokerz]]), have loose moral standards...they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created.created; the closest they've ever come to that was releasing a gas that would rile up bats against the Jokerz. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. While his grievances about them are justified, consider the following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by crows]]), bats in an attempt to take out the Jokerz]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. But also, you have to consider a few things about the Bats before taking his stance on them: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a constant [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]], [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. But also, you have to While his grievances about them are justified, consider a few things about the Bats before taking his stance on them: following: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a constant 24/7 [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are nothing but still a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]], deception]] at the end of the day, [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get all clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people or commit malevolent deeds like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. But also, you have to consider a few things about the Bats before taking his stance on them: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a constant [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]], [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get ''all'' clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. But also, you have to consider a few things about the Bats before taking his stance on them: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a constant [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman Batman]] choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]], [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get ''all'' all clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* GoddamnBats: The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.

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* GoddamnBats: The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.count.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The vigilantes known as the "Bats" get nothing but disdain from Batman. But also, you have to consider a few things about the Bats before taking his stance on them: This is Gotham City of the [[Creator/DCComics DC Universe]]; it's a constant [[CrapsackWorld shitheap]] with the amount of criminal activity it has, and more often than not superheroes overlook that with the kind of global threats they have to face; not even Batman can stop all of it, and Law enforcement in the DC universe is rather lackluster. The Bats only formed because of [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Batman choosing to go after the Joker instead of saving [[TheChessmaster Winslow Heath]]; a victim of the Joker, ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero who went on to form the Jokerz]]'' because of Batman's callous decision. While the Bats are nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn byproduct of Heath's deception]], [[DestructiveSavior destructive in nature]], and take some morally questionable stances (e.g [[KickTheDog using a gas machine to get ''all'' clowns attacked by crows]]), they aren't going out of their way to hurt people like the Jokerz whom are high on the "Joker Juice" that Heath created. At this point, the Bats are simply cleaning up the mess that Batman left behind in broad daylight, and are just a sign that Batman's obsession with catching the Joker has bit him in the ass big time.
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* CompleteMonster: Needless to say, the Jokerz only exist for one reason; to cause havoc and crime to honor the Joker. Nothing good could ever come of them. ''Ever''.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking vigilantes who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking vigilantes nutcases who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Are the Bat helpers a bunch of attention-seeking vigilantes who are just looking for an excuse to wreak havoc on people? Or are they vigilantes [[WellIntentionedExtremist who's hearts are in the right place]] that legitimately believe the police and Batman are incapable of keeping the peace in the daylight?
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* GameBreaker: 1. Witch Doctor 2. Bear Traps 3. Roller skates 4.???? 5. Profit ([[http://youtu.be/lylcKsO1tp4 Here]])

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* GameBreaker: 1. Witch Doctor 2. Bear Traps 3. Roller skates 4.???? 5. Profit ([[http://youtu.be/lylcKsO1tp4 Here]])Profit
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* GameBreaker: 1. Witch Doctor 2. Bear Traps 3. Roller skates 4.???? 5. [[StepThreeProfit Profit]] ([[http://youtu.be/lylcKsO1tp4 Here]])

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* GameBreaker: 1. Witch Doctor 2. Bear Traps 3. Roller skates 4.???? 5. [[StepThreeProfit Profit]] Profit ([[http://youtu.be/lylcKsO1tp4 Here]])
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* GameBreaker: 1. Witch Doctor 2. Bear Traps 3. Roller skates 4.???? 5. [[StepThreeProfit Profit]] ([[http://youtu.be/lylcKsO1tp4 Here]])
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* DemonicSpiders: Burly/Mighty with a jetpack & Rocket Launcher or with a sniper rifle. Jetpackers fly above you and throw rockets faster than you can walk a circle and sniping ones tends to one shot easily. Even though it's not headshot, it will take much health away.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Somewhat. There are different types of games, but you will always find people on team deathmatch, even if the other types aren't really seeing attention. There tends to be enough variation in playstyle to avoid this trope on that front.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Somewhat. There are different types of games, but you will always find people on team deathmatch, even if the other types aren't really seeing attention. There tends to be enough variation in playstyle to avoid this trope on that front.front.
* GoddamnBats: The light skater and shotgun and/or submachine gun. In terms of lethality they need to be close, so trying to fire from far away won't deal much damage to you, however they are hard to hit, and once they get close they ''can'' kill you quickly if they know what they're doing. All of this is offset by low HP, so if you do hit them with a heavier weapon they may be down for the count.
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ComplacentGamingSyndrome: *ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Somewhat. There are different types of games, but you will always find people on team deathmatch, even if the other types aren't really seeing attention. There tends to be enough variation in playstyle to avoid this trope on that front.
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