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* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of the material on ''Obscura'' was written as far back as 1993, if not earlier.

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* GrowingTheBeard: ''Obscura'' to some extent. The first two albums are highly regarded old-school DeathMetal albums in their own right, but ''Obscura'' was what established their SignatureStyle and established them as DeathMetal legends. The majority of TechnicalDeathMetal in the past twenty years owes some sort of debt to ''Obscura''. This is somewhat HilariousInHindsight when combined with this trope because the cover actually depicts a bearded man sitting in the lotus position.
* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of the material on ''Obscura'' was written as far back as 1993, if not earlier. The TitleTrack and "Nostalgia" were the last two songs composed.
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** A smaller one is comparing ''Obscura'' to ''Music/TroutMaskReplica''. They do have some similarity, mostly in terms of how gleefully they deconstruct their respective genres' conceptions of melody, though the atonality of both albums is frequently overstated: they both do have melodic hooks in most of their songs; they're just weird melodies that are unlike anything most of their listeners have ever heard.

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** A smaller one is comparing ''Obscura'' to ''Music/TroutMaskReplica''. They do have some similarity, similarities, mostly in terms of how gleefully they deconstruct their respective genres' conceptions of melody, though the atonality of both albums is frequently overstated: they both do have melodic hooks in most of their songs; they're just weird melodies that are unlike anything most of their listeners have ever heard.

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* EarWorm: "Nostalgia" is surprisingly catchy for a noisy TechnicalDeathMetal song.



** A smaller one is comparing ''Obscura'' to ''Music/TroutMaskReplica''. They do have some similarity, mostly in terms of how gleefully they deconstruct their respective genres' conceptions of melody, though the atonality of both albums is frequently overstated: they both do have melodic hooks in most of their songs; they're just weird melodies that are unlike anything most of their listeners have ever heard.



* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness" for their old-school style, "Obscura" for their TechnicalDeathMetal one.

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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness" for their old-school style, "Obscura" or possibly "Nostalgia" for their TechnicalDeathMetal one.one. Ironically, the latter two were the last songs composed for ''Obscura''.
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* AwesomeMusic: Basically, all of it, but ''Obscura'' stands out even among their high-quality discography. It's still one of the most highly regarded TechnicalDeathMetal albums of all time.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Basically, all of it, but ''Obscura'' stands out even among their high-quality discography. It's still one of the most highly regarded TechnicalDeathMetal albums of all time.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Music/{{Ulcerate}}, Music/{{Portal}}, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Music/{{Ulcerate}}, Music/{{Portal}}, Pyrrhon, Music/{{Pyrrhon}}, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''Pleiades' Dust'' with its celebration of scholarship and learning. It's not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, either. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists, which in these days of panic over Syrian refugees and other immigrants is the sort of thing that needs to be repeated as often as possible.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''Pleiades' Dust'' with its celebration of scholarship and learning. It's not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, either. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists, which in these days of panic over Syrian refugees and other immigrants is the sort of thing that needs to be repeated as often as possible.possible - even more so in the wake of the 2016 U.S. election.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Ulcerate, Music/{{Portal}}, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Ulcerate, Music/{{Ulcerate}}, Music/{{Portal}}, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.
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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example. Interestingly, Gorguts named Deathspell Omega as an influence on ''them'' with the material on ''Pleiades' Dust'').
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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in a similar direction as Deathspell Omega, whom many fans feel is no longer around considering their last release was in ''2012'' (and their last full-length even before then, in 2010). As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega". Which is kind of ironic, because ''Obscura'' was an obvious influence on Deathspell Omega, whom Gorguts cited as an influence on their recent material in turn.[[/note]]

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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in a similar direction as Deathspell Omega, whom many fans feel is had thought was no longer around considering their last release was in ''2012'' (and due to a gap between new releases that lasted from 2012 to 2016 (additionally, their last full-length had been even before then, in 2010). As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega". Which is kind of ironic, because ''Obscura'' was an obvious influence on Deathspell Omega, whom Gorguts cited as an influence on their recent material in turn.[[/note]]
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Ulcerate, Portal, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Ulcerate, Portal, Music/{{Portal}}, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.
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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in a similar direction as Deathspell Omega, who many fans feel is no longer around considering the last release of their was in ''2010''. As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega". Which is kind of ironic, because ''Obscura'' was an obvious influence on Deathspell Omega, whom Gorguts cited as an influence on their recent material in turn.[[/note]]

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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in a similar direction as Deathspell Omega, who whom many fans feel is no longer around considering the their last release of their was in ''2010''.''2012'' (and their last full-length even before then, in 2010). As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega". Which is kind of ironic, because ''Obscura'' was an obvious influence on Deathspell Omega, whom Gorguts cited as an influence on their recent material in turn.[[/note]]
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* NightmareFuel: Death metal initially sounds frightening to people unfamiliar with the style. Gorguts initially sound frightening to ''metalheads''. Basically everything they've released from ''Obscura'' on is likely to be this for people, at least to start out.
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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in the similar direction of Deathspell Omega, who many fans feel is no longer around considering the last release of their was in ''2011''. As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega".[[/note]]

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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in the a similar direction of as Deathspell Omega, who many fans feel is no longer around considering the last release of their was in ''2011''.''2010''. As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega". Which is kind of ironic, because ''Obscura'' was an obvious influence on Deathspell Omega, whom Gorguts cited as an influence on their recent material in turn.[[/note]]
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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega".

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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega". [[note]]The reason behind this meme is the fact that many people think Gorguts is going in the similar direction of Deathspell Omega, who many fans feel is no longer around considering the last release of their was in ''2011''. As a result, fans are crowning Gorguts as "the new Deathspell Omega".[[/note]]
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* MemeticMutation: "Gorguts is the new Music/DeathspellOmega".
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''Pleiades' Dust'' with its celebration of scholarship and learning. It's not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, either. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists, which in these days of panic over Syrian refugees and other immigrants is the sort of thing that needs to be repeated as often as possible.
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* EpicRiff: A lot. "Obscura" and "Nostalgia" have excellent examples.

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* EpicRiff: A lot. "Obscura" "Obscura", "Nostalgia", "Inverted", and "Nostalgia" "Le Toit du monde" have excellent examples.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible and TrueArtIsAngsty: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible and TrueArtIsAngsty: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets.secrets, as well as the fact that there are other emotions besides simple angst and aggression lurking beneath the surface. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.
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* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with ''Obscura''. While it's still considered their best album, their two most recent albums and subsequent EP are still considered excellent recordings.

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* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with ''Obscura''. While it's still considered their best album, their two most recent albums and subsequent EP are still considered excellent recordings.recordings.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible and TrueArtIsAngsty: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.
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* BrokenBase: A minor case between the old-school style of the band's first two albums and the noisy, dissonant, technical style for which they've been known since. There are plenty of fans who [[TakeAThirdOption like both styles just fine]], though.

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* FaceOfTheBand: Luc Lemay

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* FaceOfTheBand: Luc LemayLemay.



* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of the material on ''Obscura'' was written as far back as 1993, if not earlier.



* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness" for their old-school style, "Obscura" for their TechnicalDeathMetal one
* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with ''Obscura''. While it's still considered their best album, their two most recent albums are still considered excellent albums.

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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness" for their old-school style, "Obscura" for their TechnicalDeathMetal one
one.
* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with ''Obscura''. While it's still considered their best album, their two most recent albums and subsequent EP are still considered excellent albums.recordings.
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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example).

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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example).example. Interestingly, Gorguts named Deathspell Omega as an influence on ''them'' with the material on ''Pleiades' Dust'').
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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness"

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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness"Sickness" for their old-school style, "Obscura" for their TechnicalDeathMetal one
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* AwesomeMusic: Basically, all of it, but ''Obscura'' stands out even among their high-quality discography. It's still one of the most highly regarded TechnicalDeathMetal albums of all time.


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* FollowTheLeader: The sound of ''Obscura'' was utterly unique when it came out. It proved influential on an entire generation of DeathMetal bands that followed, however, as well as on some BlackMetal bands (Music/DeathspellOmega is a good example).
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* MagnumOpus: ''Obscura''
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* EpicRiff: A lot. "Obscura" and "Nostalgia" have excellent examples.
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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness"

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* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness"Sickness"
* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with ''Obscura''. While it's still considered their best album, their two most recent albums are still considered excellent albums.
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* MagnumOpus: ''Obscura''

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* MagnumOpus: ''Obscura''''Obscura''
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Ulcerate, Portal, Pyrrhon, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.
* SignatureSong: "Orphans of Sickness"
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* FaceOfTheBand: Luc Lemay

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* FaceOfTheBand: Luc LemayLemay
* MagnumOpus: ''Obscura''
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