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* RefrainFromAssuming: As was common at the time, effectively ''every'' song is named after its first line, not its refrain. The only exceptions are the ones where the refrain doubles as the first line (such as "I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Major General"). However, Gilbert himself, in his 1890 collection of lyrics, ''Songs of a Savoyard'', gave each song a short descriptive title instead, ''e.g.'', "The Major General's Song" (for "I am the very model of a modern major-general") or "Eheu Fugaces—!" (for "Time was when Love and I were well acquainted").
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders. The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
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ZCE. Needs to explain why they're widely hated and are minor characters given unfair focus/favoritism.
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* CreatorsPet: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of Theatre/TheSorcerer.
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** John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]
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** John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]anyway.]]
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** The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers''
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** The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers''''Theatre/TheGondoliers''.
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* CreatorsPet: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer
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* CreatorsPet: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer Theatre/TheSorcerer.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]]. There's at least one great song in every show, but ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Hail "Hail, Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]]. There's at least one great song in every show, but ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
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That's not a research failure, it's entirely deliberate.
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* CriticalResearchFailure:
** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life and politically it is exactly like the UK. At least some of this is intentional as it is based on the "authentic Japanese village" that had been setup in Knightsbridge around that time. Some productions play this up by making it evident through costuming that the characters are British and dressing up as Japanese people.
** The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders. The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life and politically it is exactly like the UK. At least some of this is intentional as it is based on the "authentic Japanese village" that had been setup in Knightsbridge around that time. Some productions play this up by making it evident through costuming that the characters are British and dressing up as Japanese people.
** The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders. The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
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** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life and politically it is exactly like the UK. At least some of this is intentional as it is based on the "authentic Japanese village" that had been setup in Knightsbridge around that time. Some productions play this up by making it evident through costuming that the characters are British and dressing up as Japanese people.
**CriticalResearchFailure: The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders. The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life and politically it is exactly like the UK. At least some of this is intentional as it is based on the "authentic Japanese village" that had been setup in Knightsbridge around that time. Some productions play this up by making it evident through costuming that the characters are British and dressing up as Japanese people.
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* PainfulRhyme:
** A lot (mostly of the SoBadItsGood variety; [[{{Lampshaded}} lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels").
** Somewhat confusingly, if Gilbert wanted a word like "Navy", "Sympathy", or "Arcady" to rhyme with "bee", he always wrote it out as "Navee", "Sympathee", or "Arcadee". So, "I shall live and die" is meant to rhyme with "A heartfelt sympa-thigh", but "Stick close to your desks and never go to sea / And you all may be rulers of the Queen's Navee". It's Victorian! ''Iolanthe'' goes one step further:
--> Strephon: A shepherd, I -
--> Chorus: A shepherd, he -
--> Strephon: -- from Arca''dy''
--> Chorus: -- from Arcadee
** A lot (mostly of the SoBadItsGood variety; [[{{Lampshaded}} lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels").
** Somewhat confusingly, if Gilbert wanted a word like "Navy", "Sympathy", or "Arcady" to rhyme with "bee", he always wrote it out as "Navee", "Sympathee", or "Arcadee". So, "I shall live and die" is meant to rhyme with "A heartfelt sympa-thigh", but "Stick close to your desks and never go to sea / And you all may be rulers of the Queen's Navee". It's Victorian! ''Iolanthe'' goes one step further:
--> Strephon: A shepherd, I -
--> Chorus: A shepherd, he -
--> Strephon: -- from Arca''dy''
--> Chorus: -- from Arcadee
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]]. There's at least one great song in every show, but ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]]. There's at least one great song in every show, but ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: Gilbert did not enjoy his previous career as an attorney, but he put it to good use when writing ''Theatre/TrialByJury''.
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** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, it was never meant to.
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** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, and politically it was never meant to.is exactly like the UK. At least some of this is intentional as it is based on the "authentic Japanese village" that had been setup in Knightsbridge around that time. Some productions play this up by making it evident through costuming that the characters are British and dressing up as Japanese people.
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*** [[FridgeBrilliance "How beautifully blue the sky, the glass is rising very high..."]] It's unusually warm and lovely weather!
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Sullivan would much have preferred to be known as the composer of his serious classical music, especially the {{opera}} ''Ivanhoe'', agreeing with music critics who often took him to task for wasting time with comic operetta. (Although he certainly didn't mind that his collaborations with Gilbert [[MoneyDearBoy were very lucrative]].) Today, of course, his "serious" music is remembered only because it's by the composer of those comic operettas.
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* FairForItsDay: The apparent [[StrawFeminist anti-feminism]] in''Princess Ida'' is ''nothing'' compared to the genuine Anti-Feminist jokes of its time. The Tennyson poem it's based on is also arguably worse in many respects than Gilbert's parody, since the FramingStory basically claims it's an incompetent attempt by feminists to rewrite history, which ends up showing that a woman's place is with her man. In Gilbert's version, the worst you get is some ''characters'' poking fun of women's education -- before they get there, and all of whom think that educated women are ''fantastic'' once they meet them, skewering of some of the man-hating aspects of Ida's college, and a scene where book-learning meets reality, and the woman refuses to do surgery which she was taught to do from books alone. Plus, in Gilbert's other work, in ''Utopia, Limited'', the Cambridge-educated Princess Zara never has this poked fun of, and is shown to be vastly more capable than most of the men, so it's not like he makes a habit of anti-Feminism.
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* FairForItsDay: The apparent [[StrawFeminist anti-feminism]] in''Princess in ''Princess Ida'' is ''nothing'' compared to the genuine Anti-Feminist jokes of its time. The Tennyson poem it's based on is also arguably worse in many respects than Gilbert's parody, since the FramingStory basically claims it's an incompetent attempt by feminists to rewrite history, which ends up showing that a woman's place is with her man. In Gilbert's version, the worst you get is some ''characters'' poking fun of women's education -- before they get there, and all of whom think that educated women are ''fantastic'' once they meet them, skewering of some of the man-hating aspects of Ida's college, and a scene where book-learning meets reality, and the woman refuses to do surgery which she was taught to do from books alone. Plus, in Gilbert's other work, in ''Utopia, Limited'', the Cambridge-educated Princess Zara never has this poked fun of, and is shown to be vastly more capable than most of the men, so it's not like he makes a habit of anti-Feminism.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''The Grand Duke'', the loser of a statutory duel, while still physically alive, is officially dead, "in fact, a legal ghoest". [[http://www.thecourier.com/Issues/2013/Oct/08/ar_news_100813_story2.asp?d=100813_story2,2013,Oct,08&c=n Turns out there are such "ghoests" today]].
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama") and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, it was never meant to.
** There is one other bit of actual Japanese culture. When Pooh-Bah offers to toast Nanki-Poo "three times three" (at his wedding before he is executed). It just happens, that's a pretty accurate translation of part of the Shinto Wedding ceremony (3 drinks (of sake of course) by the groom, 3 by the bride, 3 by the groom).
** While all of the above is accurate, it's worth noting that Gilbert went out of his way to find actual Japanese girls to teach his actresses how to walk in a Japanese manner and took pains to make the kimonos as accurate as possible.
*** That's typical of Gilbert's ideas of stagecraft. Everything should look as realistic as possible, in order to make the silliness all the funnier in contrast. He also dressed the sailors in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' with real naval outfits and carefully modelled the set on H.M.S. Victory.
** The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders.
*** The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]].
** Really, there's at least one great song in every show. ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
* EarWorm: [[EarWorm/GilbertAndSullivan Many]], though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
** Said tune is actually a musical ShoutOut to Verdi's "Anvil Chorus" from ''Il Trovatore''. There's an even more explicit one hidden in "Poor Wand'ring One," which copies a bit in the aria "Sempre Libera" from Verdi's ''La Traviata'' note for note.
** There is one other bit of actual Japanese culture. When Pooh-Bah offers to toast Nanki-Poo "three times three" (at his wedding before he is executed). It just happens, that's a pretty accurate translation of part of the Shinto Wedding ceremony (3 drinks (of sake of course) by the groom, 3 by the bride, 3 by the groom).
** While all of the above is accurate, it's worth noting that Gilbert went out of his way to find actual Japanese girls to teach his actresses how to walk in a Japanese manner and took pains to make the kimonos as accurate as possible.
*** That's typical of Gilbert's ideas of stagecraft. Everything should look as realistic as possible, in order to make the silliness all the funnier in contrast. He also dressed the sailors in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' with real naval outfits and carefully modelled the set on H.M.S. Victory.
** The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders.
*** The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAM]].
** Really, there's at least one great song in every show. ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
* EarWorm: [[EarWorm/GilbertAndSullivan Many]], though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
** Said tune is actually a musical ShoutOut to Verdi's "Anvil Chorus" from ''Il Trovatore''. There's an even more explicit one hidden in "Poor Wand'ring One," which copies a bit in the aria "Sempre Libera" from Verdi's ''La Traviata'' note for note.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: CriticalResearchFailure:
** Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miyasama") sama"), the "three times three" wedding toast and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, it was never meant to.
**There is one other bit of actual Japanese culture. When Pooh-Bah offers to toast Nanki-Poo "three times three" (at his wedding before he is executed). It just happens, that's a pretty accurate translation of part of the Shinto Wedding ceremony (3 drinks (of sake of course) by the groom, 3 by the bride, 3 by the groom).
** While all of the above is accurate, it's worth noting that Gilbert went out of his way to find actual Japanese girls to teach his actresses how to walk in a Japanese manner and took pains to make the kimonos as accurate as possible.
*** That's typical of Gilbert's ideas of stagecraft. Everything should look as realistic as possible, in order to make the silliness all the funnier in contrast. He also dressed the sailors in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' with real naval outfits and carefully modelled the set on H.M.S. Victory.
**The Yeomen of the Guard are not the Beefeaters who guard the Tower of London -- those are the Yeomen Warders.
***Warders. The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMomentBLAM]].
** Really, there'sBLAM]]. There's at least one great song in every show. show, but ''Pirates'' is particularly strong in this regard.
* EarWorm: [[EarWorm/GilbertAndSullivan Many]], though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
** Said tune is actually a musical ShoutOut to Verdi's "Anvil Chorus" from ''Il Trovatore''. There's an even more explicit one hidden in "Poor Wand'ring One," which copies a bit in the aria "Sempre Libera" from Verdi's ''La Traviata'' note for note.regard.
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** While all of the above is accurate, it's worth noting that Gilbert went out of his way to find actual Japanese girls to teach his actresses how to walk in a Japanese manner and took pains to make the kimonos as accurate as possible.
*** That's typical of Gilbert's ideas of stagecraft. Everything should look as realistic as possible, in order to make the silliness all the funnier in contrast. He also dressed the sailors in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' with real naval outfits and carefully modelled the set on H.M.S. Victory.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Hail Poetry" from ''Pirates''. Sort of an inverse [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment
** Really, there's
* EarWorm: [[EarWorm/GilbertAndSullivan Many]], though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
** Said tune is actually a musical ShoutOut to Verdi's "Anvil Chorus" from ''Il Trovatore''. There's an even more explicit one hidden in "Poor Wand'ring One," which copies a bit in the aria "Sempre Libera" from Verdi's ''La Traviata'' note for note.
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* MemeticMutation: A notable OlderThanRadio example is the "What, never?", "No, never", "What, never?" "Well, hardly ever." exchange from ''H.M.S Pinafore''. The editor of a certain London newspaper is said to have threatened to sack any man on staff quoting the passage, his rant ending with "I never want to hear that joke again!". Cue everyone...
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* MemeticMutation: FridgeLogic:
** In ''HMS Pinafore,'' just how old is Ralph Rackstraw supposed to be, anyway? Captain Corcoran has a grown, marriageable daughter. Buttercup claims (UnreliableNarrator, perhaps, to help sort out the mess?) to have raised both Rackstraw and Corcoran as babies and switched them. In fact, if one is paying attention, the three pairings at the end of ''Pinafore'' are all disturbing by modern standards. Ralph marries a woman literally young enough to be his daughter, Porter marries his own cousin, and Corcoran marries his own wet-nurse. Ick. At best, if we assume everyone started early, Josephine would be in her late teens, the Captain and Ralph in their mid-thirties and and Buttercup in her late forties. Nothing ''too'' bad...
** If they're celebrating Frederick's birthday which happens to be in February wouldn't that mean all of the lovely seaside action in ''Pirates'' is taking place in the winter?
* HoYay: The only woman Frederic has seen in all his years of piratical service is Ruth. Think about that for a second.
* MemeticMutation:
** A notable OlderThanRadio example is the "What, never?", "No, never", "What, never?" "Well, hardly ever." exchange from ''H.M.S Pinafore''. The editor of a certain London newspaper is said to have threatened to sack any man on staff quoting the passage, his rant ending with "I never want to hear that joke again!". Cue everyone...
** In ''HMS Pinafore,'' just how old is Ralph Rackstraw supposed to be, anyway? Captain Corcoran has a grown, marriageable daughter. Buttercup claims (UnreliableNarrator, perhaps, to help sort out the mess?) to have raised both Rackstraw and Corcoran as babies and switched them. In fact, if one is paying attention, the three pairings at the end of ''Pinafore'' are all disturbing by modern standards. Ralph marries a woman literally young enough to be his daughter, Porter marries his own cousin, and Corcoran marries his own wet-nurse. Ick. At best, if we assume everyone started early, Josephine would be in her late teens, the Captain and Ralph in their mid-thirties and and Buttercup in her late forties. Nothing ''too'' bad...
** If they're celebrating Frederick's birthday which happens to be in February wouldn't that mean all of the lovely seaside action in ''Pirates'' is taking place in the winter?
* HoYay: The only woman Frederic has seen in all his years of piratical service is Ruth. Think about that for a second.
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** A notable OlderThanRadio example is the "What, never?", "No, never", "What, never?" "Well, hardly ever." exchange from ''H.M.S Pinafore''. The editor of a certain London newspaper is said to have threatened to sack any man on staff quoting the passage, his rant ending with "I never want to hear that joke again!". Cue everyone...
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* PainfulRhyme: A lot (mostly of the SoBadItsGood variety; [[{{Lampshaded}} lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels").
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* PainfulRhyme: PainfulRhyme:
** A lot (mostly of the SoBadItsGood variety; [[{{Lampshaded}} lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels").
** A lot (mostly of the SoBadItsGood variety; [[{{Lampshaded}} lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels").
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* TearJerker: The ending of Yeomen of the Guard and the second half of "Stay, Frederic, Stay!" from Pirates are particularly heartbreaking.
** Also TheReveal to the Lord Chancellor in Iolanthe.
** Also TheReveal to the Lord Chancellor in Iolanthe.
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** The ending of Yeomen of the Guard and the second half of "Stay, Frederic, Stay!" from Pirates are particularly heartbreaking.
**Also TheReveal to the Lord Chancellor in Iolanthe.
** The ending of Yeomen of the Guard and the second half of "Stay, Frederic, Stay!" from Pirates are particularly heartbreaking.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Guess which of the operas got the most critical praise for the composer?
** It was also both his and Gilbert's favourite.
** It is notable that in ''The Yeomen of the Guard'' Gilbert was letting Sullivan take the lead and putting Sullivan's music ahead of Gilbert's lyrics. Just listen to the final chorus of Act One: the singers are incomprehensible to the point where one couldn't tell that they were singing in English, yet the music is awe-inspiring. ''Yeomen'' is full of {{Wangst}}, but it's also the best music he wrote with Gilbert.
*** It's only incomprehensible if it's sung badly. (The end of act one of ''Patience'', on the other hand...)
**** Well, those are more sung stage directions. The idea is that each group is supposed to act out what they're singing, the conflicting lyrics emphasizing the chaos happening on stage (more so if you don't cut Jack Point and Elsie's lyrics at the end of ''Yeomen'', Act I), while acting gets the point across (and if you think those are bad, have a look at the end of Act I of Gilbert's collaboration with Alfred Cellier, ''The Mountebanks'').
** It was also both his and Gilbert's favourite.
** It is notable that in ''The Yeomen of the Guard'' Gilbert was letting Sullivan take the lead and putting Sullivan's music ahead of Gilbert's lyrics. Just listen to the final chorus of Act One: the singers are incomprehensible to the point where one couldn't tell that they were singing in English, yet the music is awe-inspiring. ''Yeomen'' is full of {{Wangst}}, but it's also the best music he wrote with Gilbert.
*** It's only incomprehensible if it's sung badly. (The end of act one of ''Patience'', on the other hand...)
**** Well, those are more sung stage directions. The idea is that each group is supposed to act out what they're singing, the conflicting lyrics emphasizing the chaos happening on stage (more so if you don't cut Jack Point and Elsie's lyrics at the end of ''Yeomen'', Act I), while acting gets the point across (and if you think those are bad, have a look at the end of Act I of Gilbert's collaboration with Alfred Cellier, ''The Mountebanks'').
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Guess which of the operas got the most critical praise for the composer?
** Itcomposer (and was also both his and Gilbert's favourite.
** It is notable that in ''The Yeomen of the Guard'' Gilbert was letting Sullivan take the lead and putting Sullivan's music ahead of Gilbert's lyrics. Just listen to the final chorus of Act One: the singers are incomprehensible to the point where one couldn't tell that they were singing in English, yet the music is awe-inspiring. ''Yeomen'' is full of {{Wangst}}, but it's also the best music he wrote with Gilbert.
*** It's only incomprehensible if it's sung badly. (The end of act one of ''Patience'', on the other hand...)
**** Well, those are more sung stage directions. The idea is that each group is supposed to act out what they're singing, the conflicting lyrics emphasizing the chaos happening on stage (more so if you don't cut Jack Point and Elsie's lyrics at the end of ''Yeomen'', Act I), while acting gets the point across (and if you think those are bad, have a look at the end of Act I of Gilbert's collaboration with Alfred Cellier, ''The Mountebanks'').favourite)?
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** It is notable that in ''The Yeomen of the Guard'' Gilbert was letting Sullivan take the lead and putting Sullivan's music ahead of Gilbert's lyrics. Just listen to the final chorus of Act One: the singers are incomprehensible to the point where one couldn't tell that they were singing in English, yet the music is awe-inspiring. ''Yeomen'' is full of {{Wangst}}, but it's also the best music he wrote with Gilbert.
*** It's only incomprehensible if it's sung badly. (The end of act one of ''Patience'', on the other hand...)
**** Well, those are more sung stage directions. The idea is that each group is supposed to act out what they're singing, the conflicting lyrics emphasizing the chaos happening on stage (more so if you don't cut Jack Point and Elsie's lyrics at the end of ''Yeomen'', Act I), while acting gets the point across (and if you think those are bad, have a look at the end of Act I of Gilbert's collaboration with Alfred Cellier, ''The Mountebanks'').
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]
** To a lesser extent, Dick Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
** To a lesser extent, Dick Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
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** John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]
**To a lesser extent, Dick Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
** John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers''
** Not to mention Arac, Scynthius, and Guron in ''Princess Ida'', specifically during their (in)famous striptease song ("This Helmet I Suppose"), but really, any time any of them opens their mouth. ("On the whole we are/Not intelligent--/No! No! No! Not intelligent.")
** Not to mention Arac, Scynthius, and Guron in ''Princess Ida'', specifically during their (in)famous striptease song ("This Helmet I Suppose"), but really, any time any of them opens their mouth. ("On the whole we are/Not intelligent--/No! No! No! Not intelligent.")
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* WhatAnIdiot: WhatAnIdiot:
** The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers''
**Not to mention Arac, Scynthius, and Guron in ''Princess Ida'', specifically during their (in)famous striptease song ("This Helmet I Suppose"), but really, any time any of them opens their mouth. ("On the whole we are/Not intelligent--/No! No! No! Not intelligent.")
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** The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers''
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* MemeticMutation: A notable OlderThanRadio example is the "What, never?", "No, never", "What, never?" "Well, hardly ever."-exchange from ''H.M.S Pinafore''. The editor of a certain London newspaper is said to have threatened to sack any man on staff quoting the passage, his rant ending with "I never want to hear that joke again!". Cue everyone...
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* MemeticMutation: A notable OlderThanRadio example is the "What, never?", "No, never", "What, never?" "Well, hardly ever."-exchange " exchange from ''H.M.S Pinafore''. The editor of a certain London newspaper is said to have threatened to sack any man on staff quoting the passage, his rant ending with "I never want to hear that joke again!". Cue everyone...
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** The story behind Sullivan's popular and beautiful song "The Lost Chord". Sir Arthur's brother Frederic, though trained in architecture, shared his brother's love of music and eventually made a career on the stage. He created the role of the Learned Judge in the first G&S operetta, ''Trial by Jury'', and was quite well received by critics. However, Fred died of liver disease and tuberculosis at the age of only 39, leaving behind his pregnant wife and seven children. Sir Arthur composed the song at Fred's bedside, dating the manuscript five days before his death.
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* EarWorm: Many, though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
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* EarWorm: Many, [[EarWorm/GilbertAndSullivan Many]], though perhaps the most notorious is "Come, friends, who plough the sea," the chorus of "With cat-like tread," which has become well known in many variants (''e.g.'', "Hail, hail, the gang's all here").
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** ''The Mikado'' in particular is the source of many now-familiar English phrases, such as "a short, sharp shock," "Let the punishment fit the crime," and "grand Poohbah."
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* {{Moe}}: Patience and Grosvenor in ''Patience''.
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* FairForItsDay: The apparent [[StrawFeminist anti-feminism]] in''Princess Ida'' is ''nothing'' compared to the genuine Anti-Feminist jokes of its time. The Tennyson poem it's based on is also arguably worse in many respects than Gilbert's parody, since the FramingStory basically claims it's an incompetent attempt by feminists to rewrite history, which ends up showing that a woman's place is with her man. In Gilbert's version, the worst you get is some ''characters'' poking fun of women's education -- before they get there, and all of whom think that educated women are ''fantastic'' once they meet them, skewering of some of the man-hating aspects of Ida's college, and a scene where book-learning meets reality, and the woman refuses to do surgery which she was taught to do from books alone. Plus, in Gilbert's other work, in ''Utopia, Limited'', the Cambridge-educated Princess Zara never has this poked fun of, and is shown to be vastly more capable than most of the men, so it's not like he makes a habit of anti-Feminism.
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* CreatorsPet: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer
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* TheWesley: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer
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** To a lesser extent, [[HMSPinafore Dick Deadeye]], who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
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** To a lesser extent, [[HMSPinafore Dick Deadeye]], Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: John Wellington Wells, the title character in ''The Sorcerer'', who actually was supposed to be the villain, but unfortunately his evil is only hinted lightly upon in the text so one feels the retribution is a bit overdone. [[spoiler:In the end there is a choice of whether he or the handsome Tenor Alexis dies; the audience tends to opt for the ''tenor''. It doesn't help that most people can't stand Alexis anyway]]
** To a lesser extent, [[HMSPinafore Dick Deadeye]], who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
** To a lesser extent, [[HMSPinafore Dick Deadeye]], who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains.
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*** The Yeoman Warders did not exist until 1548, and the Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Richard Cholmondeley, mentioned in the lyrics, served from 1513 to 1524.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Parodied in ''Patience'' with "If You're Anxious for to Shine."eWesley: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Parodied in ''Patience'' with "If You're Anxious for to Shine."eWesley: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer "
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