History YMMV / FoxTrot

26th Jul '17 11:48:32 AM MisterBeeg
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** A 1988 strip featured Paige fainting after Nicole told her that she thought Peter was cute. Years later, in 2005, Peter threw a fit when Paige told him that he thought Steve was cute.
19th Jun '17 1:03:07 PM lalalei2001
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* BrokenBase: As expected, the April 01, 2012 strip ({{the one with}} Jason watching the ''Series/GameOfThrones[=/=]WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' crossover) split the fanbase up into whether Bill Amend was supposed to be portraying bronies positively or negatively. One brony was so hurt over the comic, he [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation made a theory that Jason's shocked face was of delight, and he was looking for a pitchfork because the episode was]] ''fake''. Then again, it's relatively clear which series Jason favors as a proud nerd who doesn't like works tailored for girls or young children.
* CreatorsPet: Andy, given how much she gets the favorable end of the DoubleStandard when compared with her husband, how rarely she is called out for her vices, and how often she gets to have the final word in debates even when she isn't necessarily right.

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* BrokenBase: As expected, the The April 01, 2012 strip ({{the (the one with}} with Jason watching the ''Series/GameOfThrones[=/=]WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' crossover) split the fanbase up into whether Bill Amend was supposed to be portraying bronies positively or negatively. One brony was so hurt over the comic, he [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation made a theory that Jason's shocked face was of delight, and he was looking for a pitchfork because the episode was]] ''fake''. Then again, it's relatively clear which series Jason favors as a proud nerd who doesn't like works tailored for girls or young children.
* CreatorsPet: Andy, given how much she gets the favorable end of the DoubleStandard when compared with her husband, how rarely she is called out for her vices, and how often she gets to have the final word in debates even when she isn't necessarily right.
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* JerkassWoobie: Peter can be a jerkass sometimes (for instance the LoveLetterLunacy arc)...but he's the ButtMonkey of the ''[=FoxTrot=]'' universe. It's really easy to see why he's prone to {{Jerkass}} moments.

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* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
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Peter can be a jerkass sometimes (for instance the LoveLetterLunacy arc)...but he's the ButtMonkey of the ''[=FoxTrot=]'' universe. It's really easy to see why he's prone to {{Jerkass}} moments.



* TheScrappy: Andy, to some people. Other than what's stated in CreatorsPet, Andy's incredibly hypocritical and at times can be '''really''' unlikable.
* SeasonalRot: How some feel about the strip's transition to Sunday-only format, though others believe it had reached this point long beforehand.

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* TheScrappy: Andy, to some people. Other than what's stated in CreatorsPet, Andy's incredibly hypocritical and at times people, as she can be '''really''' unlikable.
hypocritical, tends to get the last word, and is prone to addicting behavior.
* SeasonalRot: How some feel about the strip's transition to the Sunday-only format, though others believe it had reached this point long beforehand.



* ValuesDissonance: Up until the mid-90s, Paige would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published.

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* ValuesDissonance: Up until the mid-90s, Paige or Peter would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published.published.
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24th May '17 5:38:37 AM C2
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** [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2004/03/25 This strip]] is even better now that Creator/{{Disney}} actually ''has'' [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle started]] [[Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea distributing]] [[Anime/TheSecretWorldOfArrietty anime]].
19th May '17 5:33:10 AM C2
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** One strip had Andy cutting the family's cable and the children are forced to watch ''Series/SesameStreet'' instead. Not so amusing after ''Sesame Street'' moved from PBS to cable channel HBO in January 2016.
15th May '17 6:56:13 PM MichaelKatsuro
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** Something similar happened in 2005 with [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2005/09/29/ this strip]] from an arc when Jason was writing horoscopes. In the strip, Jason announces he will sell them to newspapers for free, and Peter asks how he will make money. It then cuts to one of his horoscopes where every fortune is an advertisement for something. Among them was "Go see ''Film/{{Serenity}}'', in theaters today!", which [[http://www.theninemuses.net/log/2005/09/yesssssss-i-always-suspected-jason-fox.html caused at least one fanboy]] to go "OMG JASON LIKES ''Series/{{FIREFLY}}!''", completely ignoring the fact that the choice of movie had nothing to do with the joke and the real joke was that Jason was selling out by advertising a movie in his horoscopes. (To be fair, unlike ''MLP'', ''Firefly'' is actually something up Jason's alley)
* CreatorsPet: Jason might be becoming this, due to his increased prominence.
** Ironically, before that happened, some strips (such as [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2001/10/25 this one]]) had insults to [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration the original]] [[CreatorsPet Trope Namer]].
** Arguably, Andy, given how much she gets the favorable end of the DoubleStandard when compared with her husband, how rarely she is called out for her vices, and how often she gets to have the final word in debates even when she isn't necessarily right.

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** Something similar happened in 2005 with [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2005/09/29/ this strip]] from an arc when Jason was writing horoscopes. In the strip, Jason announces he will sell them to newspapers for free, and Peter asks how he will make money. It then cuts to one of his horoscopes where every fortune is an advertisement for something. Among them was "Go see ''Film/{{Serenity}}'', in theaters today!", which [[http://www.theninemuses.net/log/2005/09/yesssssss-i-always-suspected-jason-fox.html caused at least one fanboy]] to go "OMG JASON LIKES ''Series/{{FIREFLY}}!''", completely ignoring the fact that the choice of movie had nothing to do with the joke and the real joke was that Jason was selling out by advertising a movie in his horoscopes. (To be fair, unlike ''MLP'', ''Firefly'' is actually something up Jason's alley)
* CreatorsPet: Jason might be becoming this, due to his increased prominence.
** Ironically, before that happened, some strips (such as [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2001/10/25 this one]]) had insults to [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration the original]] [[CreatorsPet Trope Namer]].
** Arguably,
Andy, given how much she gets the favorable end of the DoubleStandard when compared with her husband, how rarely she is called out for her vices, and how often she gets to have the final word in debates even when she isn't necessarily right.



** [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/1996/05/20 This comic]] became less funny after the death of [[Film/GrizzlyMan Timothy]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell Treadwell]].
** Or, mileage varying as it will, [[HilariousInHindsight more]] [[BlackComedy funny]].

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** [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/1996/05/20 This comic]] became less funny after the death of [[Film/GrizzlyMan Timothy]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell Treadwell]].
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Treadwell]]. Or, mileage varying as it will, [[HilariousInHindsight more]] [[BlackComedy funny]].
20th Apr '17 7:57:27 PM kklove689
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** When Jason finds out that the way to get past an extremely tough boss in his video game is to ''not'' attack it and walk past it peacefully, he notes how "counter-intuitive" the strategy is. By 2015 we have {{Undertale}}, where making peace with monsters instead of attacking them is not only an option, but openly recommended within the game itself (and the only way to get the GoldenEnding).
8th Jan '17 4:30:48 PM LinTaylor
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** One of the earliest strips had Jason ordering [[XRayVision X-Ray Specs]] from a comic book and embarrassing Paige by claiming that she's wearing leopard-print underwear. About two decades later, there's a comic where Paige dresses in a leopard-print outfit to "maul" her chocolate Easter rabbit...including leopard-print undies, by her own admission.

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** One of the earliest strips had Jason ordering [[XRayVision X-Ray Specs]] from a comic book and embarrassing Paige by claiming that she's wearing leopard-print underwear.underwear, which she denies. About two decades later, there's a comic where Paige dresses in a leopard-print outfit to "maul" her chocolate Easter rabbit...including leopard-print undies, by her own admission.
8th Jan '17 4:30:13 PM LinTaylor
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** One of the earliest strips had Jason ordering [[XRayVision X-Ray Specs]] from a comic book and embarrassing Paige by claiming that she's wearing leopard-print underwear. About two decades later, there's a comic where Paige dresses in a leopard-print outfit to "maul" her chocolate Easter rabbit...including leopard-print undies, by her own admission.
22nd Oct '16 10:41:04 PM shinykittie
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* ValuesDissonance: Up until the mid-90s, Paige would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published. Even though [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale certain tropes]] are still in effect.

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* ValuesDissonance: Up until the mid-90s, Paige would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published. Even though [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale certain tropes]] are still in effect.
22nd Oct '16 10:32:50 PM shinykittie
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** [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2004/03/25 This strip]] is even better now that Creator/{{Disney}} actually ''has'' [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle started]] [[Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea distributing]] [[Anime/TheSecretWorldOfArrietty anime]]. This was even pointed out by a Gocomics user below, [=DerkinsVanPelt218=].

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** [[http://www.gocomics.com/foxtrot/2004/03/25 This strip]] is even better now that Creator/{{Disney}} actually ''has'' [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle started]] [[Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea distributing]] [[Anime/TheSecretWorldOfArrietty anime]]. This was even pointed out by a Gocomics user below, [=DerkinsVanPelt218=].
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