History YMMV / FireEmblem

26th Mar '17 2:05:35 PM nombretomado
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Western tend to prefer ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Holy War]]'' (mainly pre-export fans who enjoy the complexity), ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'' (being the first ''Fire Emblem'' game outside of Japan with excellent localization and production values), or even ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'' (among strategy fans [[FirstInstallmentWins "spoiled" by the genre's]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics more]] [[OgreBattle popular]] [[VideoGame/NintendoWars offerings]] who like the open-world map and lowered difficulty).

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Western tend to prefer ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Holy War]]'' (mainly pre-export fans who enjoy the complexity), ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'' (being the first ''Fire Emblem'' game outside of Japan with excellent localization and production values), or even ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'' (among strategy fans [[FirstInstallmentWins "spoiled" by the genre's]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics more]] [[OgreBattle [[VideoGame/OgreBattle popular]] [[VideoGame/NintendoWars offerings]] who like the open-world map and lowered difficulty).
13th Mar '17 6:43:15 PM Monsund
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* CultClassic: While this used to be true, calling the series a cult classic now would be very suspect. The series was brought to the West via ''Super Smash Bros.'', and for around a decade afterward the Western fanbase peaked and troughed until it was very loyal cult. Contrast to Japan where the games have always been fairly popular. Since Awakening, however, Fire Emblem has exploded in popularity in the West, now being a consistent 1,000,000+ seller worldwide. It's to the point that Fire Emblem as a ''series'' got a dedicated Nintendo Direct in 2017. Which showed more on ''Fire Emblem Warriors'' (In the vein of '''Legend of Zelda's''' Hyrule Warriors spinoff), announced ''Fire Emblem Heroes'' (Nintendo's second smartphone game), revealed ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'' (A remake of one of the original FamiCom games), AND announced a full-scale Fire Emblem game for the [[NintendoSwitch Switch]]. Whatever cult status the series had had in the West beforehand, all these announcements show the series has evolved into a series that Nintendo has firm and established confidence in. If not a crown jewel franchise in its own right.

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* CultClassic: While this used to be true, calling the series a cult classic now would be very suspect. The series was brought to the West via ''Super Smash Bros.'', and for around a decade afterward the Western fanbase peaked and troughed until it was very loyal cult. Contrast to Japan where the games people who actually have always been fairly popular. Since Awakening, however, bought the pre Awakening Fire Emblem has exploded games and played it are reduced to a (very loyal) cult. Still to this day, people are still arguing over a tier list in popularity in the West, now being a consistent 1,000,000+ seller worldwide. It's to the point that Fire Emblem as a ''series'' got a dedicated Nintendo Direct in 2017. Which showed more on ''Fire Emblem Warriors'' (In the vein of '''Legend of Zelda's''' Hyrule Warriors spinoff), announced ''Fire Emblem Heroes'' (Nintendo's second smartphone game), revealed ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'' (A remake of one of the original FamiCom games), AND announced a full-scale Fire Emblem game for the [[NintendoSwitch Switch]]. Whatever cult status the series had had in the West beforehand, all these announcements show [=FE9=] and [=FE10=]. In Japan, though, the series has evolved into a series that Nintendo has firm and established confidence in. If not a crown jewel franchise in its own right.been mainstream since the NES days.
3rd Mar '17 10:14:12 AM Emreld3000
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23rd Feb '17 5:33:24 PM Bravetriforcer
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* CultClassic: While the series is well-known thanks to ''Super Smash Bros.'', the people who actually have bought a game and played it are reduced to a (very loyal) cult. Still to this day, people are still arguing over a tier list in [=FE9=] and [=FE10=]. In Japan, though, it's very much mainstream, and the West seems to be getting in on the action if the sales figures for ''Awakening'' are any indication.

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* CultClassic: CultClassic: While this used to be true, calling the series is well-known thanks a cult classic now would be very suspect. The series was brought to the West via ''Super Smash Bros.'', and for around a decade afterward the people who actually have bought a game Western fanbase peaked and played troughed until it are reduced to a (very loyal) was very loyal cult. Still Contrast to this day, people are still arguing over a tier list Japan where the games have always been fairly popular. Since Awakening, however, Fire Emblem has exploded in [=FE9=] and [=FE10=]. In Japan, though, it's very much mainstream, and popularity in the West, now being a consistent 1,000,000+ seller worldwide. It's to the point that Fire Emblem as a ''series'' got a dedicated Nintendo Direct in 2017. Which showed more on ''Fire Emblem Warriors'' (In the vein of '''Legend of Zelda's''' Hyrule Warriors spinoff), announced ''Fire Emblem Heroes'' (Nintendo's second smartphone game), revealed ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'' (A remake of one of the original FamiCom games), AND announced a full-scale Fire Emblem game for the [[NintendoSwitch Switch]]. Whatever cult status the series had had in the West seems to be getting in on beforehand, all these announcements show the action if the sales figures for ''Awakening'' are any indication.series has evolved into a series that Nintendo has firm and established confidence in. If not a crown jewel franchise in its own right.
22nd Feb '17 4:03:47 AM Wuz
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** The series as a whole is being hit with this more and more over time. Until ''Awakening'', Fire Emblem had been viewed as a niche series and a secondary IP at best. After ''Awakening'' revived the series and made it more popular than ever, the last few years have seen Fire Emblem absolutely exploding in popularity, culminating in 6 playable characters in the newest Super Smash Bros game (on par with other high profile Nintendo IP such as Mario, Zelda and Pokemon), and as of 2017, Fire Emblem got its own special Nintendo Direct where it announced ''FOUR'' games were in the works to be released by the end of 2018. Fire Emblem has become a mainline IP for Nintendo, and people in the West are either overjoyed its finally come as far as it has, or are bitter about how its success is overshadowing other IP they consider more deserving, such as Metroid, Donkey Kong, F-Zero and Star Fox.

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** The series as a whole is being hit with this more and more over time. Until ''Awakening'', Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' had been viewed as a niche series and a secondary IP at best. After ''Awakening'' revived the series and made it more popular than ever, the last few years have seen Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' absolutely exploding in popularity, culminating in 6 playable characters in the newest Super Smash Bros game (on par with other high profile Nintendo IP such as Mario, Zelda and Pokemon), and as of 2017, Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' got its own special Nintendo Direct where it announced ''FOUR'' games were in the works to be released by the end of 2018. Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' has become a mainline IP for Nintendo, and people in the West are either overjoyed its finally come as far as it has, or are bitter about how its success is overshadowing other IP they consider more deserving, such as Metroid, Donkey Kong, F-Zero ''Metroid'', ''Donkey Kong'', ''F-Zero'' and Star Fox.''Star Fox''.



* MisBlamed: Many blame ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Shadow Dragon]]'' as the cause of series' fall, using the fact that ''New Mystery'', its direct sequel, is not localized. It should be noted that the only Fire Emblem game that manage to have below average sales are, in fact, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius the Tellius duology]] - [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff at least in Japan]], ''Path of Radiance'' is the lowest-selling ''Fire Emblem'' game, with 156,000 units ''in total'' sold there.

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* MisBlamed: Many blame ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Shadow Dragon]]'' as the cause of series' fall, using the fact that ''New Mystery'', its direct sequel, is not localized. It should be noted that the only Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' game that manage to have below average sales are, in fact, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius the Tellius duology]] - [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff at least in Japan]], ''Path of Radiance'' is the lowest-selling ''Fire Emblem'' game, with 156,000 units ''in total'' sold there.



** Est units, while typically popular among fans, tend to be ranked low on tier lists. In theory, with their higher than average growth rates, Est units should become your strongest units when given enough training. In practice, their typically terrible base stats combined with their late joining time make training them to competency a complete chore and a bad investment compared to a regular unit. Contrast this the Jaigen Archetypes, units that start out prepromoted with high base stats but with terrible exp gain and low growths. In almost every Fire Emblem game, the Jaigens can ride off their base stats until they drop off mid game (in which case then the hardest part of the game is already over) or in some cases never drop off at all and break the game over their knees (Seth, Titania, and [=FE7=] Marcus).

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** Est units, while typically popular among fans, tend to be ranked low on tier lists. In theory, with their higher than average growth rates, Est units should become your strongest units when given enough training. In practice, their typically terrible base stats combined with their late joining time make training them to competency a complete chore and a bad investment compared to a regular unit. Contrast this the Jaigen Archetypes, units that start out prepromoted with high base stats but with terrible exp gain and low growths. In almost every Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' game, the Jaigens can ride off their base stats until they drop off mid game (in which case then the hardest part of the game is already over) or in some cases never drop off at all and break the game over their knees (Seth, Titania, and [=FE7=] Marcus).
11th Feb '17 6:13:22 PM Karxrida
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[MemeticMolester Gheb]] especially, but [[BadassBoast Batta The Beast, Glass,]] and [[BrokenRecord Denning]] also qualify.

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[[MemeticMolester Gheb]] especially, but [[BadassBoast Batta The Beast, Glass,]] and [[BrokenRecord Denning]] also qualify.qualify.
** Malice is easily the most popular character introduced in ''BS Fire Emblem'', with both fans and the developers. It probably has something to do with being a RareFemaleExample of the "Ogma Archetype", and a badass AntiHero with a cool design (and being MsFanservice). [[BreakoutCharacter She was given a much greater role]] in ''New Mystery'', and ended up featuring as a [=SpotPass=] character in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', "representing" ''Mystery of the Emblem'' despite ''not actually debuting in that game''!
22nd Jan '17 11:19:41 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** For the newer games (''Awakening'' and beyond), playing on Casual mode instead of Classic will get you a lot of ire from a lot of players. Even if they have a sound argument for why you should play on Classic (namely in that it encourages you to value your units instead of just throwing them away in the name of victory in a game where each unit has a backstory and personality to them and the deaths of each of which are treated in a way to [[TearJerker make you feel like you just lost a loved one]]), it's still a form of telling you "don't play on this easier mode ''ever''".

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** For the newer games (''Awakening'' and beyond), playing on Casual or Phoenix mode instead of Classic will get you a lot of ire from a lot of players. Even if they have a sound argument for why you should play on Classic (namely in that it encourages you to value your units instead of just throwing them away in the name of victory in a game where each unit has a backstory and personality to them and the deaths of each of which are treated in a way to [[TearJerker make you feel like you just lost a loved one]]), it's still a form of telling you "don't play on this easier mode ''ever''".
22nd Jan '17 11:18:08 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** For the newer games (''Awakening'' and beyond), playing on Casual mode instead of Classic will get you a lot of ire from a lot of players. Even if they have a sound argument for why you should play on Classic (namely in that it encourages you to value your units instead of just throwing them away in the name of victory), it's still a form of telling you "don't play on this easier mode ''ever''".

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** For the newer games (''Awakening'' and beyond), playing on Casual mode instead of Classic will get you a lot of ire from a lot of players. Even if they have a sound argument for why you should play on Classic (namely in that it encourages you to value your units instead of just throwing them away in the name of victory), victory in a game where each unit has a backstory and personality to them and the deaths of each of which are treated in a way to [[TearJerker make you feel like you just lost a loved one]]), it's still a form of telling you "don't play on this easier mode ''ever''".
22nd Jan '17 11:17:01 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* StopHavingFunGuys: There's a very vocal portion of [[{{Speedrun}} low turncount players]] that fall into this category.

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There's a very vocal portion of [[{{Speedrun}} low turncount players]] that fall into this category.category.
** For the newer games (''Awakening'' and beyond), playing on Casual mode instead of Classic will get you a lot of ire from a lot of players. Even if they have a sound argument for why you should play on Classic (namely in that it encourages you to value your units instead of just throwing them away in the name of victory), it's still a form of telling you "don't play on this easier mode ''ever''".
19th Jan '17 1:53:26 PM bloodytears92
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** The series as a whole is being hit with this more and more over time. Until ''Awakening'', Fire Emblem had been viewed as a niche series and a secondary IP at best. After ''Awakening'' revived the series and made it more popular than ever, the last few years have seen Fire Emblem absolutely exploding in popularity, culminating in 6 playable characters in the newest Super Smash Bros game (on par with other high profile Nintendo IP such as Mario, Zelda and Pokemon), and as of 2017, Fire Emblem got its own special Nintendo Direct where it announced ''FOUR'' games were in the works to be released by the end of 2018. Fire Emblem has become a mainline IP for Nintendo, and people in the West are either overjoyed its finally come as far as it has, or are bitter about how its success is overshadowing other IP they consider more deserving, such as Metroid, Donkey Kong, F-Zero and Star Fox.
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