History YMMV / FireEmblem

15th Sep '17 12:11:01 PM Monsund
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** Ike is literally one of the most popular lords in the series, if not the most popular. Besides his fame from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', there aren't many lords who get such universal love. He's so popular, that in a poll for characters players wanted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Ike got in the top five, TWICE. The version from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]] was especially popular, as it was the most voted male character in the series.



* InternetBackdraft: ''Awakening'' caused a big NewbieBoom. Between being a very controversial title and being very popular, it created a lot of resentment. Mentioning that you're a ''Fire Emblem'' fan who came into the series with ''Awakening'' is thus an excellent way to kick up a firestorm of enraged veterans venting their ire at you, other veterans insulting ''them'' for trying to keep the fandom as an "old boys club," the ''really old'' veterans complaining that everything was better before the ''previous'' NewbieBoom caused by ''[[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Super Smash Bros.]]'', etc.
* ItsPopularNowItSucks: The NewbieBoom triggered by ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' and later ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]'' has attracted a major backlash from many veteran fans of the series. Common accusations involve simplifying the core gameplay and the story, as well as focusing too much on the [[RelationshipValues Support and romance mechanics]], to the degredation of overall quality control. But both of those criticisms carry a deep undercurrent of elitism and antipathy towards the "wrong" kinds of players enjoying a ''Fire Emblem'' game.

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* InternetBackdraft: ''Awakening'' caused a big NewbieBoom. Between being a very controversial title with large changes to the formula and storytelling, and being very popular, popular overseas, it created a lot of resentment. tension. Mentioning that you're a ''Fire Emblem'' fan who came into the series with ''Awakening'' and only play it and Fates, is thus an excellent way to kick up a firestorm of enraged veterans venting their ire at you, other veterans insulting ''them'' for trying to keep the fandom as an "old boys club," the ''really old'' veterans complaining that everything was better before the ''previous'' NewbieBoom caused by ''[[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Super Smash Bros.]]'', etc.
* ItsPopularNowItSucks: The NewbieBoom triggered by ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''
between newer and later ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]'' has attracted a major backlash from many veteran fans of the series. Common accusations involve simplifying the core gameplay and the story, as well as focusing too much on the [[RelationshipValues Support and romance mechanics]], to the degredation of overall quality control. But both of those criticisms carry a deep undercurrent of elitism and antipathy towards the "wrong" kinds of players enjoying a ''Fire Emblem'' game.older players.
15th Sep '17 6:28:22 AM Togie
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* DiscreditedMeme: Many people blame the downfall of the "BEGONE THOT" meme on the overuse of it in the ''Fire Emblem'' fandom, especially towards either [[{{Fanservice}} Fanservicey]] characters like Camilla, or {{Yandere}} characters like Faye.
31st Aug '17 6:15:10 PM VisitorAlex
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[MoralEventHorizon/FireEmblem Has its own page]].
26th Aug '17 9:56:52 PM GreatDane112
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** Ike is literally one of the most popular lords in the series, if not the most popular. Besides his fame from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', there aren't many lords who get such universal love. He's so popular, that in a poll for characters players wanted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Ike got in the top five, TWICE. The version from this game was especially popular, as it was the most voted male character in the series.

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** Ike is literally one of the most popular lords in the series, if not the most popular. Besides his fame from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', there aren't many lords who get such universal love. He's so popular, that in a poll for characters players wanted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Ike got in the top five, TWICE. The version from this game [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]] was especially popular, as it was the most voted male character in the series.
26th Aug '17 9:55:33 PM GreatDane112
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** Ike is literally one of the most popular lords in the series, if not the most popular. Besides his fame from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', there aren't many lords who get such universal love. He's so popular, that in a poll for characters players wanted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', Ike got in the top five, TWICE. The version from this game was especially popular, as it was the most voted male character in the series.
19th Aug '17 11:37:37 PM BigKlingy
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** The Camus archetype is also controversial, though only from a story standpoint. Are they they well-done tragic [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]] who show there are sympathetic people on both sides of the war, or do their MyMasterRightOrWrong tendencies veer so much towards LawfulStupid they become UnintentionallyUnsympathetic? Very often, Camus characters have UndyingLoyalty to a lord who's either ObviouslyEvil or obviously [[UnwittingPawn being manipulated]], and some even ''realize'' this yet still fight your army anyway.
13th Aug '17 4:19:30 PM MagBas
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* TaintedByThePreview: Well, more like tainted by the fanbase. The bitter elitists and Awakening/Fate's FanDumb has turned off many would-be fans of the franchise, including esteemed let's-player LetsPlay/{{Chuggaaconroy}}. Not only that, but many prominent names in the fandom, such as Obsidian Wasp, are also abadoning the series for the same reasons.
4th Aug '17 4:39:15 PM MayIncon
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** The entire notion of FinalDeath. Some feel that it adds to the challenge and makes every death really count, forcing you to be very careful with high-risk strategies, on top of encouraging you to care about your units and making it all the more [[TearJerker heartrending]] if any of them fall in battle, even if the downed unit is a story-critical unit who simply ends up with a CareerEndingInjury. Some point out that in practice, it becomes an exercise in [[SaveScumming restarting each chapter until nobody dies]], making the otherwise-poignant deaths of each character meaningless unless one has the self-restraint to [[SelfImposedChallenge never reload saves ever]], while others who do restart each time feel it gives every character the feel of a Lord-class unit, treating any unit loss as losing the chapter entirely.

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** The entire notion of FinalDeath. Some feel that it adds to the challenge and makes every death really count, forcing you to be very careful with high-risk strategies, on top of encouraging you to care about your units and making it all the more [[TearJerker heartrending]] if any of them fall in battle, even if the downed unit is a story-critical unit who simply ends up with a CareerEndingInjury.CareerEndingInjury or is not used that much anyways. Some point out that in practice, it becomes an exercise in [[SaveScumming restarting each chapter until nobody dies]], making the otherwise-poignant deaths of each character meaningless unless one has the self-restraint to [[SelfImposedChallenge never reload saves ever]], while others who do restart each time feel it gives every character the feel of a Lord-class unit, treating any unit loss as losing the chapter entirely.
26th Jul '17 2:23:21 PM Togie
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* FanHater: Because of the borderline-nonexistent tolerance for differing opinions, the fandom has begun to grow a sizable hatedom.



* TaintedByThePreview: Well, more like tainted by the fanbase. The bitter elitists and Awakening/Fate's FanDumb has turned off many would-be fans of the franchise, including esteemed let's-player LetsPlay/{{Chuggaaconroy}}.

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* TaintedByThePreview: Well, more like tainted by the fanbase. The bitter elitists and Awakening/Fate's FanDumb has turned off many would-be fans of the franchise, including esteemed let's-player LetsPlay/{{Chuggaaconroy}}. Not only that, but many prominent names in the fandom, such as Obsidian Wasp, are also abadoning the series for the same reasons.
25th Jun '17 12:48:46 PM MayIncon
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** ''Shadow Dragon'' caused (and still causes) a lot of drama among the fans. It was highly anticipated by Western fans, who were excited to finally get one of Marth's games and avert the NoExportForYou nature of the first installment of the franchise. When the game released, however, it was considered a rather lackluster remake, as aside from the graphical update and a few nice new features, the game lacked a number of systems that are now considered core mechanics: such as the Support system, the Rescue system, or even allowing any unit to visit a village (only Marth can do so). However, others like the game for its simplified approach, a large difficulty selection, PurpleProse localisation and being a largely faithful remake of Marth's story. It also properly introduced the Reclassing feature which is divisive by itself.

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** ''Shadow Dragon'' caused (and still causes) a lot of drama among the fans. It was highly anticipated by Western fans, who were excited to finally get one of Marth's games and avert the NoExportForYou nature of the first installment of the franchise. When the game released, however, it was considered a rather lackluster remake, as aside from the a contested graphical update and a few nice new features, the game lacked a number of systems that are now considered core mechanics: such as the Support system, the Rescue system, or even allowing any unit to visit a village (only Marth can do so). However, others like the game for its simplified approach, a large difficulty selection, PurpleProse localisation and being a largely faithful remake of Marth's story. It also properly introduced the Reclassing feature which is divisive by itself.
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