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* CultClassic: While the book is (in)famous for its sheer levels of [[MindScrew incomprehensibility]], a lot of people over the decades have come to see it as Joyce's best work, and one of the best novels of the 20th century. See [[VindicatedByHistory Vindicated By History]].
* DancingBear: Ask a person what he or she knows about ''Finnegans Wake'': the first thing to come to mind is most likely the style of the book, rather than the actual content. Though to be fair, the former makes the latter rather hard to discern.
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* CultClassic: While the book is (in)famous for its sheer levels of [[MindScrew incomprehensibility]], a lot of people over the decades have come to see it as Joyce's best work, and one of the best novels of the 20th century. See [[VindicatedByHistory Vindicated By History]].
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* DancingBear: Ask a person what he or she knows about ''Finnegans Wake'': the first thing to come to mind is most likely the style of the book, rather than the actual content. Though to be fair, the former makes the latter rather hard to discern.
* DancingBear: Ask a person what he or she knows about ''Finnegans Wake'': the first thing to come to mind is most likely the style of the book, rather than the actual content.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication. If the Chinese have been gifted with any special insights into what the book is all about, they certainly haven't shared them with us. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Maybe we're not ready]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation for such insights]]?
** To be serious, this style of writing where the reader has to put active effort to understand what has been written is much more popular in China than it is in the United States or Europe, so a book like this--where part of the reading experience is trying to figure out what it is you're even reading--would obviously be more welcomed by them than it would be for other cultures.
* HilariousInHindsight: If the novel were written today, the internet would probably be calling it "The world's longest shitpost."
** To be serious, this style of writing where the reader has to put active effort to understand what has been written is much more popular in China than it is in the United States or Europe, so a book like this--where part of the reading experience is trying to figure out what it is you're even reading--would obviously be more welcomed by them than it would be for other cultures.
* HilariousInHindsight: If the novel were written today, the internet would probably be calling it "The world's longest shitpost."
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication. If the Chinese have been gifted with any special insights into what the book is all about, they certainly haven't shared them with us. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Maybe we're not ready]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation for such insights]]?\n** To be serious, this style of writing where the reader has to put active effort to understand what has been written is much more popular in China than it is in the United States or Europe, so a book like this--where part of the reading experience is trying to figure out what it is you're even reading--would obviously be more welcomed by them than it would be for other cultures.\n* HilariousInHindsight: If the novel were written today, the internet would probably be calling it "The world's longest shitpost."
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Quite possibly the purest form of true art, made by the distillation of multiple layers of mutual meta-incomprehensibility. Joyce said it would take about three centuries for anyone to figure out what was really going on in the book. Justified in that the characters are all asleep, so even they don't really know what they're doing.
** The difficulty of figuring out what's going on in the book is mostly on the level of narrative. In terms of the emotions (loneliness, familial hostility, sexual hangups) and style (the Western Literary tradition refracted through the lens of the multicultural world of the 20th Century) the book makes a lot of sense.
** Arguably, it's not actually ''necessary'' to comprehend the book well to enjoy it, and in fact, trying too hard to comprehend it may actually ''detract'' from a reader's enjoyment of it. It's not really the sort of book one ''reads'', at least in a traditional manner; if you try to read it ''literally'', trying to comprehend the meaning of every word or phrase in the novel, it'll be incredibly tedious. The pleasure in reading the book is more along the lines of simply absorbing it as a whole. Not every word will make sense to the general reader, but that's arguably the ''point'', since it's a book of dreams and the night.\\
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy (though what that something is will vary from person to person), but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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The ''Wake'' can also be considered something of a literary mirror, as a person's interpretations of it often can be considered to say as much about the person themselves as they say about Joyce's book - or more, perhaps. For instance, due to the wide range of knowledge Joyce put into the book, what a person gets out of it depends largely on that person's own education.
** The difficulty of figuring out what's going on in the book is mostly on the level of narrative. In terms of the emotions (loneliness, familial hostility, sexual hangups) and style (the Western Literary tradition refracted through the lens of the multicultural world of the 20th Century) the book makes a lot of sense.
** Arguably, it's not actually ''necessary'' to comprehend the book well to enjoy it, and in fact, trying too hard to comprehend it may actually ''detract'' from a reader's enjoyment of it. It's not really the sort of book one ''reads'', at least in a traditional manner; if you try to read it ''literally'', trying to comprehend the meaning of every word or phrase in the novel, it'll be incredibly tedious. The pleasure in reading the book is more along the lines of simply absorbing it as a whole. Not every word will make sense to the general reader, but that's arguably the ''point'', since it's a book of dreams and the night.\\
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy (though what that something is will vary from person to person), but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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The ''Wake'' can also be considered something of a literary mirror, as a person's interpretations of it often can be considered to say as much about the person themselves as they say about Joyce's book - or more, perhaps. For instance, due to the wide range of knowledge Joyce put into the book, what a person gets out of it depends largely on that person's own education.
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* GeniusBonus: Joyce apparently sneaks a few references to existing jokes into this book, most of which are obscured beyond recognition and most likely stacked on other jokes. e.g. "Gee each owe tea eye smells fish." (p. 299)[[labelnote:Explanation]]It is a reference to the word "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti ghoti]]" an existing joke word playing on English's [[NoPronunciationGuide lax pronunciation rules]] with the word being supposed to be pronounced as "fish"[[/labelnote]]
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* GeniusBonus: Joyce apparently sneaks a few references to existing jokes into this book, most of which are obscured beyond recognition and most likely stacked on other jokes. e.g. "Gee each owe tea eye smells fish." (p. 299)[[labelnote:Explanation]]It is a reference to the word "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti ghoti]]" an existing joke word playing on English's [[NoPronunciationGuide lax pronunciation rules]] rules with the word being supposed to be pronounced as "fish"[[/labelnote]]
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* AluminiumChristmasTrees: [[http://peterchrisp.blogspot.in/2015/03/television-in-finnegans-wake.html One section that is surprising to modern readers]] concerns characters watching a discussion on television. The technology of the television had already been unveiled and demonstrated by John Logie Baird in 1925, but had certainly not become a popular mass medium. In other words, this section of the book is technically science-fiction, and accurate in how it anticipates TV watching at pubs in the future.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: One might assume so at first glance, but as it turns out the book has such a high density of subtle, clever wordplay that Joyce couldn't have been anything other than ''absolutely sober'' when writing it.[[note]]Oh and while we're on the subject, reading this book ''while'' on drugs is not recommended; you may just loose the ability to comprehend language altogether.[[/note]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: One might assume so at first glance, but as it turns out the book has such a high density of subtle, clever wordplay that Joyce couldn't have been anything other than ''absolutely sober'' when writing it.[[note]]Oh and while we're on the subject, reading this book ''while'' on drugs is not recommended; you may just loose lose the ability to comprehend language altogether.[[/note]]
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** To be serious, this style of writing where the reader has to put active effort to understand what has been written is much more popular in China than it is in the United States or Europe, so a book like this--where part of the reading experience is trying to figure out what it is you're even reading--would obviously be more welcomed by them than it would be for other cultures.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: One might assume so at first glance, but as it turns out the book has such a high density of subtle, clever wordplay that Joyce couldn't have been anything other than ''absolutely sober'' when writing it.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: One might assume so at first glance, but as it turns out the book has such a high density of subtle, clever wordplay that Joyce couldn't have been anything other than ''absolutely sober'' when writing it.[[note]]Oh and while we're on the subject, reading this book ''while'' on drugs is not recommended; you may just loose the ability to comprehend language altogether.[[/note]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: One might assume so at first glance, but as it turns out the book has such a high density of subtle, clever wordplay that Joyce couldn't have been anything other than ''absolutely sober'' when writing it.
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* GeniusBonus: Joyce apparently sneaks a few references to existing jokes into this book, most of which are obscured beyond recognition and most likely stacked on other jokes. e.g. "Gee each owe tea eye smells fish." (p. 299)[[labelnote:Explanation]]It is a reference to the word "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti ghoti]]" an existing joke word playing on English's [[NoPronunciationGuide lax pronunciation rules]] with the word being supposed to pronounced as "fish"[[/labelnote]]
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* GeniusBonus: Joyce apparently sneaks a few references to existing jokes into this book, most of which are obscured beyond recognition and most likely stacked on other jokes. e.g. "Gee each owe tea eye smells fish." (p. 299)[[labelnote:Explanation]]It is a reference to the word "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti ghoti]]" an existing joke word playing on English's [[NoPronunciationGuide lax pronunciation rules]] with the word being supposed to be pronounced as "fish"[[/labelnote]]
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: How did the ''Wake'' manage to get away with numerous sex jokes, not to mention descriptions of incest and general perversion, without causing a storm of controversy and bans like ''Ulysses'' did? Well, you'd have to know [[MindScrew what you're reading]] in order to say [[FridgeBrilliance it's obscene]]...
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* CultClassic: While the book is (in)famous for its sheer levels of [[Literature/MindScrew incomprehensibility]], a lot of people over the decades have come to see it as Joyce's best work, and one of the best novels of the 20th century. See [[VindicatedByHistory Vindicated By History]].
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* CultClassic: While the book is (in)famous for its sheer levels of [[Literature/MindScrew [[MindScrew incomprehensibility]], a lot of people over the decades have come to see it as Joyce's best work, and one of the best novels of the 20th century. See [[VindicatedByHistory Vindicated By History]].
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** Arguably, it's not actually ''necessary'' to comprehend the book to enjoy it, and in fact, trying too hard to comprehend it may actually ''detract'' from a reader's enjoyment of it. It's not really the sort of book one ''reads'', at least in a traditional manner; if you try to read it ''literally'', trying to comprehend the meaning of every word or phrase in the novel, it'll be incredibly tedious. The pleasure in reading the book is more along the lines of simply absorbing it as a whole. Not every word will make sense to the general reader, but that's arguably the ''point'', since it's a book of dreams and the night.\\
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** Arguably, it's not actually ''necessary'' to comprehend the book well to enjoy it, and in fact, trying too hard to comprehend it may actually ''detract'' from a reader's enjoyment of it. It's not really the sort of book one ''reads'', at least in a traditional manner; if you try to read it ''literally'', trying to comprehend the meaning of every word or phrase in the novel, it'll be incredibly tedious. The pleasure in reading the book is more along the lines of simply absorbing it as a whole. Not every word will make sense to the general reader, but that's arguably the ''point'', since it's a book of dreams and the night.\\
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy, but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy, enjoy (though what that something is will vary from person to person), but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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** Arguably, it's not actually ''necessary'' to comprehend the book to enjoy it, and in fact, trying too hard to comprehend it may actually ''detract'' from a reader's enjoyment of it. It's not really the sort of book one ''reads'', at least in a traditional manner; if you try to read it ''literally'', trying to comprehend the meaning of every word or phrase in the novel, it'll be incredibly tedious. The pleasure in reading the book is more along the lines of simply absorbing it as a whole. Not every word will make sense to the general reader, but that's arguably the ''point'', since it's a book of dreams and the night.\\
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy, but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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The ''Wake'' can also be considered something of a literary mirror, as a person's interpretations of it often can be considered to say as much about the person themselves as they say about Joyce's book - or more, perhaps. For instance, due to the wide range of knowledge Joyce put into the book, what a person gets out of it depends largely on that person's own education.
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The subtitle of Nietzsche's ''Literature/AlsoSprachZarathustra'' - translated to English, ''A Book for All and None'' - may actually apply to ''Finnegans Wake'' as well. It's a book for all because, if read properly, it has something everyone will enjoy, but it's a book for none because it's unlikely anyone but Joyce will ever understand all of it.\\
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The ''Wake'' can also be considered something of a literary mirror, as a person's interpretations of it often can be considered to say as much about the person themselves as they say about Joyce's book - or more, perhaps. For instance, due to the wide range of knowledge Joyce put into the book, what a person gets out of it depends largely on that person's own education.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Ezra Pound and Creator/VladimirNabokov hated the damn thing while Creator/PhilipKDick and Creator/RobertAntonWilson praised it to no end. Divisive indeed.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Quite possibly the purest form of true art, made by the distillation of multiple layers of mutual meta-incomprehensibility. Joyce said it would take about three centuries for anyone to figure out what was really going on in the book. Of course, that is on the level of "plot", in terms of the emotions (loneliness, familial hostility, sexual hangups) and style (the Western Literary tradition refracted through the lens of the multicultural world of 20th Century) the book can be considered comprehensible.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Quite possibly the purest form of true art, made by the distillation of multiple layers of mutual meta-incomprehensibility. Joyce said it would take about three centuries for anyone to figure out what was really going on in the book. Of course, Justified in that the characters are all asleep, so even they don't really know what they're doing.
** The difficulty of figuring out what's going on in the book is mostly on the level of"plot", in narrative. In terms of the emotions (loneliness, familial hostility, sexual hangups) and style (the Western Literary tradition refracted through the lens of the multicultural world of the 20th Century) the book can be considered comprehensible.makes a lot of sense.
** The difficulty of figuring out what's going on in the book is mostly on the level of
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* EpilepticTrees: ''From literary critics.'' With years of training they are well placed to hold forth on how Joyce counterpoints the surrealism of the underlying metaphor by [[ExpospeakGag utilizing indigenous ligneous vegetation with a tumid episodic spasmodic pathophysiology.]]
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* EpilepticTrees: ''From literary critics.'' With years of training they are well placed to hold forth on how Joyce counterpoints the surrealism of the underlying metaphor by [[ExpospeakGag utilizing indigenous ligneous vegetation with a tumid episodic spasmodic pathophysiology.]] pathophysiology]].
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Quite possibly the purest form of true art, made by the distillation of multiple layers of mutual meta-incomprehensibility. Joyce said it would take about three centuries for anyone to figure out what was really going on in the book. One suspects he'd be disappointed if {{Wikipedia}} really has the explanation of what he was saying.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Quite possibly the purest form of true art, made by the distillation of multiple layers of mutual meta-incomprehensibility. Joyce said it would take about three centuries for anyone to figure out what was really going on in the book. One suspects he'd be disappointed if {{Wikipedia}} really has Of course, that is on the explanation level of what he was saying."plot", in terms of the emotions (loneliness, familial hostility, sexual hangups) and style (the Western Literary tradition refracted through the lens of the multicultural world of 20th Century) the book can be considered comprehensible.
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** Basically, Joyce hid all the sexual content and swearing under layers of puns and multiple languages. Let's just say that when someone [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbates]] in the ''Wake'', it's gonna be cryptic as hell.
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* ItWasHisSled: The first and last sentence. Also, it's necessary to look through multiple outlines to understand even vaguely what the hell the book is about.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: How did the ''Wake'' manage to get away with numerous sex jokes, not to mention descriptions of incest and general perversion, without causing a storm of controversy and bans like ''Ulysses'' did? Well, you'd have to know [[MindScrew what you're reading]] in order to say [[FridgeBrilliance it's obscene]]...
** Basically, Joyce hid all the sexual content and swearing under layers of puns and multiple languages. Let's just say that when someone [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbates]] in the ''Wake'', it's gonna be cryptic as hell.
** Basically, Joyce hid all the sexual content and swearing under layers of puns and multiple languages. Let's just say that when someone [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbates]] in the ''Wake'', it's gonna be cryptic as hell.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Of Joyce's four major works, the ''Wake'' certainly sticks out the most for a few reasons, with some readers going so far as to say it's Joyce's [[MagnumOpus Magnum Opus]].
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication. If the Chinese have been gifted with any special insights into what the book is all about, they certainly haven't shared them with us.
** [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Maybe we're not ready]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation for such insights]]?
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication. If the Chinese have been gifted with any special insights into what the book is all about, they certainly haven't shared them with us.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Ezra Pound and Creator/VladimirNabokov hated the damn thing while Creator/PhilipKDick and Creator/RobertAntonWilson praised it to no end. Divisive indeed.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Ezra Pound and Creator/VladimirNabokov hated the damn thing while Creator/PhilipKDick and Creator/RobertAntonWilson praised it to no end. Divisive indeed.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication. If the Chinese have been gifted with any special insights into what the book is all about, they certainly haven't shared them with us.
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* EpilepticTrees: ''From literary critics.'' With years of training they are well placed to hold forth on how Joyce counterpoints the surrealism of the underlying metaphor by utilizing indigenous ligneous vegetation with a tumid episodic spasmodic pathophysiology.
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* EpilepticTrees: ''From literary critics.'' With years of training they are well placed to hold forth on how Joyce counterpoints the surrealism of the underlying metaphor by [[ExpospeakGag utilizing indigenous ligneous vegetation with a tumid episodic spasmodic pathophysiology. pathophysiology.]]
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* DancingBear: Ask a person what he or she knows about ''Finnegans Wake'': the first thing to come to mind is most likely the style of the book, rather than the actual content.
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* DancingBear: Ask a person what he or she knows about ''Finnegans Wake'': the first thing to come to mind is most likely the style of the book, rather than the actual content. Though to be fair, the former makes the latter rather hard to discern.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book is [[http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.asp?id=122123 surprisingly popular in China]]. The first Chinese A new translation sold out of its first pressing within the first month of publication.
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