History YMMV / FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears

22nd May '18 8:30:19 AM keyblade333
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: For the final chapter, a lot of players stick to the "original five" (Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, Edge), occasionally subbing out one or two members for someone like Golbez, Palom, Porom, Edward, or even Luca. Not to mention, you'll see ''lots'' of Bands.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: For the final chapter, a lot of players stick to the "original five" (Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, Edge), occasionally subbing out one or two members for someone like Golbez, Palom, Porom, Edward, or even Luca. Not to mention, you'll see ''lots'' of Bands. The "original five" is a diverse team of a Paladin, Holy Dragoon, Ninja, White Mage, and a Summoner/Black Mage, which thanks to the buff Kain has, means that the team has plenty of healing, buffing, and damage that very few other teams can potentially use.
2nd Mar '18 8:49:53 AM DrakeClawfang
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* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: The tweaks to ''IV's'' battle system are well liked, allowing the manipulating of Moon Phases to influence battle, offering a wide variety of party members with different skillsets and stats, and Bands to add a new level of strategy to party composition. The story though gets a lukewarm reception, see ItsTheSameNowItSucks.
16th Jan '18 9:18:56 PM DrakeClawfang
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that not only is the storyline largely recycled from the original game, but so is the vast majority of the levels and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/NGage bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that it basically recycles most of the first game's content in a different order. It has the same dungeons, many of the same sprites, many of the same items and equipment, and even gameplay elements like abilities and spells. The story, meanwhile, is not only is the storyline largely recycled a lot of rehashing of plot points from the original first game, but so is the vast majority of the levels other characters even notice this and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/NGage bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.lampshade it.
5th Jan '18 10:15:53 AM rixion
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* ScrappyMechanic: The Moon Phase System. When the moon is at a certain phase, it alters a character's stats. If your main party consists of a certain warrior class, you'll be finding yourself wasting Tents until you get the moon phase you need. If that weren't enough, it changes on its own if enough time passes since the last shift, even without having your characters sleep.

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* ScrappyMechanic: The Moon Phase System. When the moon is at a certain phase, it alters a character's stats. If your main party consists of a certain warrior class, you'll be finding yourself wasting Tents until you get the moon phase you need. If that weren't enough, it changes on its own if enough time passes since the last shift, even without having your characters sleep.[[ScrappyMechanic/FinalFantasy Here.]]
30th Nov '17 7:17:15 PM MeiwakunaBoku
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* TierInducedScrappy: Harley and the Calcabrina dolls; Harley's abilities are fairly sub-optimal, the dolls both have terrible stats that can only be reasonably increased using equipment found [[LateCharacterSyndrome right at the very end of the game]] and all three have a low number of bands, many (if not most) of which require ill-advised character builds and party combinations to put together, which leaves them at the bottom of the party ladder for pretty much all players once The Gathering comes around.

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* TierInducedScrappy: TierInducedScrappy:
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Harley and the Calcabrina dolls; Harley's abilities are fairly sub-optimal, the dolls both have terrible stats that can only be reasonably increased using equipment found [[LateCharacterSyndrome right at the very end of the game]] and all three have a low number of bands, many (if not most) of which require ill-advised character builds and party combinations to put together, which leaves them at the bottom of the party ladder for pretty much all players once The Gathering comes around.
** The Eblan Four get this treatment for their sub-par stats and bands that leaves them just above [[JokeCharacter Harley and the Calcabrina dolls]] in the party ladder. While some of them do have their strengths (Izayoi having an wide array of healing skills and Tsukinowa having the highest speed stat in the game) Edge outshadows them all anyway.
12th Nov '17 9:15:07 AM MeiwakunaBoku
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: For the final chapter, a lot of players stick to the "original five" (Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, Edge), occasionally subbing out one or two members for someone like Golbez, Palam, Porom, Edward, or even Luca. Not to mention, you'll see ''lots'' of Bands.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: For the final chapter, a lot of players stick to the "original five" (Cecil, Rosa, Rydia, Kain, Edge), occasionally subbing out one or two members for someone like Golbez, Palam, Palom, Porom, Edward, or even Luca. Not to mention, you'll see ''lots'' of Bands.
24th Jul '17 10:50:57 AM DrakeClawfang
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* FauxSymbolism: The main antagonist appears to come from the moon, looks like Rydia, and brainwashes the Eidolons to serve her. What is her connection to Rydia and the Summoners?...there pretty much isn't one. ''Interlude'' reveals she looks like Rydia mostly by chance, and she uses the Eidolons simply because they're effective and convenient minions.

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* FauxSymbolism: The main antagonist appears to come from the moon, looks like Rydia, and brainwashes the Eidolons to serve her. What is her connection to Rydia does this mean for the Summoners, the Lunarians, and the Summoners?...there pretty much isn't one. Eidolons? ... not a darn thing. ''Interlude'' reveals she looks like Rydia mostly by chance, the moon she comes from is a different moon from the Red Moon of the Lunarians, and she uses the Eidolons simply apparently just because they're effective and convenient minions.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: As described above under FauxSymbolism, the Mysterious Girl is presented as a Rydia-lookalike that comes from the moon and has the power to forcibly control the Eidolons. This provides numerous potential story threads for connecting the Summoners to the Lunarians and either or both to the Eidolons, after the original game provided some hints already (Bahamut on the Red Moon, Golbez seemingly fearing the Summoners and also being able to Summon). However, any connection between these ideas turned out to be, well, FauxSymbolism, and no meaningful revelations or story is built on the potential.
3rd Jun '17 8:50:17 PM Angeldeb82
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that not only is the storyline largely recycled from the original game, but so is the vast majority of the levels and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/{{NGage}} bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that not only is the storyline largely recycled from the original game, but so is the vast majority of the levels and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/{{NGage}} UsefulNotes/NGage bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.
3rd Jun '17 8:48:57 PM Angeldeb82
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that not only is the storyline largely recycled from the original game, but so is the vast majority of the levels and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/{{NGage}} bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.
* NightmareFuel: The final boss, [[spoiler:[[BigBad The Creator.]] Whereas most final bosses in the series build up to an epic final battle that indicate just how hectic things will get, this time around you're against an entity that is practically EldritchAbomination with steadily decreasing sanity, a horror-esque ambiance that pulls no punches, and, by the end of it all, a relentless and destructive foe repeatedly attacking and chasing after you which you seemingly ''cannot kill'' until a HeroicSacrifice finally makes him vulnerable.]]

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint about the game is that not only is the storyline largely recycled from the original game, but so is the vast majority of the levels and artwork. While some fans are willing to cut the original mobile release some slack over this, as the game was made before smartphones (and the app market) really exploded in popularity, was designed to be used on phones whose internal storage capacity was usually measured in the low-to-mid ''megabyte'' range, and no-one had really attempted a proper gaming experience on mobile phones since the Nokia UsefulNotes/{{NGage}} bombed a few years previously, said fans aren't so forgiving when it comes to the later releases of the game.
* NightmareFuel: The final boss, [[spoiler:[[BigBad The Creator.]] Creator]]. Whereas most final bosses in the series build up to an epic final battle that indicate just how hectic things will get, this time around you're against an entity that is practically EldritchAbomination with steadily decreasing sanity, a horror-esque ambiance that pulls no punches, and, by the end of it all, a relentless and destructive foe repeatedly attacking and chasing after you which you seemingly ''cannot kill'' until a HeroicSacrifice finally makes him vulnerable.]]



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Take one SpoonyBard, and train him to TakeALevelInBadass in terms of both plot and gameplay. Rescuing complete.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Take one SpoonyBard, [[QuirkyBard Spoony Bard]], and train him to TakeALevelInBadass [[TookALevelInBadass Take a Level in Badass]] in terms of both plot and gameplay. Rescuing complete.
1st Mar '17 2:15:17 AM crazyrabbits
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why does Edward have to travel between Kaipo and Damcyan by foot when in the original game he owned the Hovercraft that let the party ride across the shallows to get to Kaipo by sea. But then, what happened to the Hovercraft? Odds are you left it near Mythril last game, which has undergone a tidal shift with the Red Moon gone and the island is significantly larger. Edward doesn't use the Hovercraft because you left it out in the middle of nowhere and it probably got washed into the sea, YouBastard.
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